Nonetheless, amazing for it's time. Though a flying wing. Not a stealth. If Germany would have finished this plane earlier on, the world would be totally different.
Really, I do not believe the outcome of WW II would have been any different , It would not have turned on one aircraft. All to easy to get carried away due to the apparent t novelty of design - what capability advantage would it have brought and why would this not have been countered by the allies.
@@thomasjoad9396 I don't think it would have lived up to the promises as bomber. It wasn't stealth and was not intended to be. I don't think it would have had the range or maneuverability. And it would have have the same engine woes as the Me-262 - short engine life and poor throttle management, coupled with inherent instabilities in the design.
Thomas Joad It would have enabled the Luftwaffe to stop carpet bombing by USAF. The only way the allies could win the war was denying the Germans the capability to wage it by bombing factories. They had also developed the ME262 so not only ONE aircraft. Your in denial
@@silverarrowslk doubt it, allied air supremacy was near absolute combined that a flying wing is near impossible to control without the fly by wire tech of today Does the 1940s have fly by wire?
+ Jos Hill The surviving V3 229 was captured unpainted at the Gotha workshops. That goofy blue-gray paint and swastikas was painted by the Allies and it should be removed by the Smithsonian. The V3 was bare wood and had been painted with a green fireproof paint at the Gotha workshop.
The non existent Ho 229 was meant to be a bomber, the requirement was for a bomber capable of taking a 1,000 kg bob for 1,000 kms and with a maximum speed of 1,000 kmh. It was a paper project only, the Hortens made gliders and the tried to make an unarmed experimental plane, Gothe took over and did get it to fly but it was a failure so Gotha started building another experimental plane with some changes but it was never finished. There was no attempt to make a stealth plane and it was never going to be a fighter.
+Barrie Rodliffe Basically correct. The proposal that the Horten brothers made to Goering was that their wings could meet the medium bomber requirement because they were fuel efficient. There was never any intended stealth about it. Northrop's design started nearly three years earlier was a large heavy bomber, quite different than the Horten's eventual concept models.
The design did reduce the radar imprint. So it waasnt fully stealth but it would've headed in that direction if it was to be polished out. STealth was a by product in a way
@@flamingburitto Hardly any less visible to radar than most aircraft and that was more to do with the use of wood. It was still years away from production.
The Designer of HORTEN HO 229 was one of The Sephardi Jew repatriated to Philippines settled for good in Cebu City with the name ABELLA ...on 1986 his grandson was our colleague Engineer in Designing the stealth B2 Spirit Bomber..infact we copied the stealth landing gear from the legacy of Horten..Horten blue print was perfectly preserved as if waiting to the time his grandson will be born and made stealth a reality. facebook.com/iqueendk/
+anthony9325 No charcoal was found in any lab samples taken by the NASM restoration experts. They used wood and glue due to materials shortages and Gotha was a furniture maker. Nothing stealth by design, very little stealth by coincidence.
FiveCentsPlease I remember seeing quite a long program about the discovery of these aircraft by the Americans and the fact that they were designed to fool British radar. Both by shape and by the materials used in construction. But that program may have been inaccurate. What are your sources?
+anthoney9325 Flying wing theory was studied before WW2 in several nations and one advantage was that wings were thought to be very fuel efficient. In 1943 Goering requested a light bomber to carry a 1000 kg payload for 1000 kilometers at 1000 km/hr. The Horten brothers responded to this request with the proposal that their wing could meet the specification and were given a contract to start research and construction in late 1943. (Fully two years AFTER Northrop began construction on the YB-35 bomber.) So the 229 was designed as a fuel efficient bomber and not as any "stealth" aircraft or fighter at all. It was a bomber, with future armed prototypes under development.
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Nonetheless, amazing for it's time. Though a flying wing. Not a stealth. If Germany would have finished this plane earlier on, the world would be totally different.
Really, I do not believe the outcome of WW II would have been any different , It would not have turned on one aircraft. All to easy to get carried away due to the apparent t novelty of design - what capability advantage would it have brought and why would this not have been countered by the allies.
@@thomasjoad9396 I don't think it would have lived up to the promises as bomber. It wasn't stealth and was not intended to be. I don't think it would have had the range or maneuverability. And it would have have the same engine woes as the Me-262 - short engine life and poor throttle management, coupled with inherent instabilities in the design.
Thomas Joad It would have enabled the Luftwaffe to stop carpet bombing by USAF. The only way the allies could win the war was denying the Germans the capability to wage it by bombing factories. They had also developed the ME262 so not only ONE aircraft. Your in denial
@@silverarrowslk Not the case.
@@silverarrowslk doubt it, allied air supremacy was near absolute combined that a flying wing is near impossible to control without the fly by wire tech of today
Does the 1940s have fly by wire?
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Not the first flying wing. That would be the Westland Hill Pterodacyl V of the 1920s
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the originals had swastikas on their tails ..
+ Jos Hill The surviving V3 229 was captured unpainted at the Gotha workshops. That goofy blue-gray paint and swastikas was painted by the Allies and it should be removed by the Smithsonian. The V3 was bare wood and had been painted with a green fireproof paint at the Gotha workshop.
The non existent Ho 229 was meant to be a bomber, the requirement was for a bomber capable of taking a 1,000 kg bob for 1,000 kms and with a maximum speed of 1,000 kmh. It was a paper project only, the Hortens made gliders and the tried to make an unarmed experimental plane, Gothe took over and did get it to fly but it was a failure so Gotha started building another experimental plane with some changes but it was never finished. There was no attempt to make a stealth plane and it was never going to be a fighter.
+Barrie Rodliffe Basically correct. The proposal that the Horten brothers made to Goering was that their wings could meet the medium bomber requirement because they were fuel efficient. There was never any intended stealth about it. Northrop's design started nearly three years earlier was a large heavy bomber, quite different than the Horten's eventual concept models.
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I believe it is called Pentoxifylline.
The design did reduce the radar imprint. So it waasnt fully stealth but it would've headed in that direction if it was to be polished out. STealth was a by product in a way
@@flamingburitto
Hardly any less visible to radar than most aircraft and that was more to do with the use of wood. It was still years away from production.
@@barrierodliffe4155 I know which is why I said if it was brought into production it woulve eventually headed in that direction.
The Designer of HORTEN HO 229 was one of The Sephardi Jew repatriated to Philippines settled for good in Cebu City with the name ABELLA ...on 1986 his grandson was our colleague Engineer in Designing the stealth B2 Spirit Bomber..infact we copied the stealth landing gear from the legacy of Horten..Horten blue print was perfectly preserved as if waiting to the time his grandson will be born and made stealth a reality. facebook.com/iqueendk/
It wasn’t « stealth » at all. Being a flying wing doesn’t mean that you’re stealth. Before posting stuff like that try to do some research at least
It WAS designed as a stealth aircraft because of the materials used in its construction, meant to absorb radar waves (charcoal dust, wood, glue).
+anthony9325 No charcoal was found in any lab samples taken by the NASM restoration experts. They used wood and glue due to materials shortages and Gotha was a furniture maker. Nothing stealth by design, very little stealth by coincidence.
FiveCentsPlease I remember seeing quite a long program about the discovery of these aircraft by the Americans and the fact that they were designed to fool British radar. Both by shape and by the materials used in construction. But that program may have been inaccurate. What are your sources?
+anthoney9325 Flying wing theory was studied before WW2 in several nations and one advantage was that wings were thought to be very fuel efficient. In 1943 Goering requested a light bomber to carry a 1000 kg payload for 1000 kilometers at 1000 km/hr. The Horten brothers responded to this request with the proposal that their wing could meet the specification and were given a contract to start research and construction in late 1943. (Fully two years AFTER Northrop began construction on the YB-35 bomber.) So the 229 was designed as a fuel efficient bomber and not as any "stealth" aircraft or fighter at all. It was a bomber, with future armed prototypes under development.
that's great but you didn't tell me where you get that information from so it's difficult to agree / disagree / verify