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  • In this video I'll show you a student having so much trouble he quit halfway into the class. He said he'd be back. If he comes back I'll know he is determined to become a skilled rider.
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  • @c.j.harvey2863
    @c.j.harvey2863 4 місяці тому +25

    It’s really shows what a great teacher you are by offering a private lesson for free. Thank you for caring so much!

  • @kensherrod9448
    @kensherrod9448 4 місяці тому +102

    From a retired Motor Officer's point of view, sorry but for their own safety and others , some people should not ride

    • @motorman857
      @motorman857  4 місяці тому +52

      You are correct in that some people shouldn't be on a motorcycle. But, if he comes back, I'll know he is determined and I will help him.

    • @SolelyElectric
      @SolelyElectric 4 місяці тому +3

      Learn to ride or don’t ride at all - it sounds rough but learning the basics principles that’ll save your life one day are more important than trying to look cool doing wheelies & tricks

    • @gckshea
      @gckshea 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@jeremyhubbard5706 I have taken multiple MSF and Harley-Davidson sponsored/sanctioned Advance Rider Courses in my 45 years of riding. I have seen good riders, great riders, and truly horrible riders. The horrible riders were almost never novices; they were self-touted "veteran" riders, every one of them on some Harley bagger. It's scary the level of incompetence disguised as expertise by so many riders. The arrogance maims or kills them and others. A number of times these "experts" were asked to leave the class...they endangered everyone and would not or could not improve and were dismissed. Guess what? The instructors were NOT cops.

    • @michaelmutphy9077
      @michaelmutphy9077 4 місяці тому +1

      I agree but he probably is riding.

    • @billcarson1966
      @billcarson1966 4 місяці тому +4

      Totally agree. I teach the MSF courses and some people really are not meant to ride motorcycles. That's not an insult. It's just the truth.

  • @radarlover77
    @radarlover77 4 місяці тому +38

    I hope he comes back. I know it gets overwhelming when you're being watched. But to put that aside and push though? Now there is an accomplishment to be proud of!

  • @Bill-NBfarming
    @Bill-NBfarming 4 місяці тому +46

    What you do is a huge contribution to the motorcycle community. It not only makes better riders but we enjoy it more. My wife bought me your course as a gift about 2 years ago. I practice a lot. I test rode a new FLHTK at my dealer a few months ago. At the end of the of the test ride there was a small area open in front of the dealer. Instead of stopping I went into 3 full lock circles each way before parking the bike. It just felt good! The look on the faces of a bunch of sales guys was priceless (I’m 61 years old)!I realized then that I have the bars on my FLHTK adjusted to far forward.
    I sure hope that rider doesn’t give up. I hope he takes you up on your offers.

    • @jimhannon2154
      @jimhannon2154 4 місяці тому +1

      I have one also. Big heavy bike right. I would like to have it not so top heavy. What do you think??

    • @Bill-NBfarming
      @Bill-NBfarming 4 місяці тому +4

      @@jimhannon2154 They are heavy but that makes no difference if you have the proper skills and use the techniques taught in the Ride Like a Pro training! The Harley touring bikes actually have a very low center of gravity that makes them easy to handle.

    • @motorman857
      @motorman857  4 місяці тому +4

      Your bike isn't top heavy. I'd bet it's technique you're lacking. Watch this link ua-cam.com/video/vNq2scdQnuI/v-deo.html

    • @TRC_WA
      @TRC_WA 4 місяці тому

      @@Bill-NBfarming I learned to to ride 35 years ago on a RM 125 dirtbike... and then bought a 500cc bike as my first street ride. Would never have considered a big touring bike for my first... I guess times have changed. I'm only now just about to purchase my first touring motorcycle for my 50th... (Indian Pursuit) after years of riding 750-1000cc sport bikes...

  • @ericshingles
    @ericshingles 4 місяці тому +34

    Thank you Jerry, you are responsible for keeping many motorcycle riders alive

  • @fdn0067
    @fdn0067 4 місяці тому +29

    I hope he returns, regardless of whether he practices. Your patience, professionalism, and genuine concern that riders control their bikes come through in all your lessons. I am a very happy customer, and I work on growing the skills you highlight in your classes. Thanks to you and the other Ride Like a Pro instructors!

  • @scarface1961
    @scarface1961 4 місяці тому +15

    I had a buddy that was in his mid 50's that bought a dyna line-up Harley before he was licensed. I drove the bike home for him. He was scheduled to take the riding course with the local Harley Dealership a short time afterward. After his first class, he calls me up and tells me he dumped one of the 250's that they were using in the class. He said he made a mistake buying the Harley. I told him be glad it wasn't your bike you dumped. He ended up riding for about 10-11 years and 25-30k miles, but he never overcame his fear of leaning. He used to practice with his neighbor who was a Harley riding class trainer, but he was always shaky and never really got much better. I am betting the majority that quit your class just give up on their motorcycle riding dreams. To them, reality sets in that riding just isn't for them. I think arrogant riders wouldn't even take the intelligent step of taking one of your classes.

    • @spartanx169x
      @spartanx169x 4 місяці тому +3

      What people don't realize is that leaning requires at least some sense of balance. The older you get the more you lose that sense of balance, to overcome it you have to be able to trust that the bike will do what it is supposed to do. Not everybody can do that.

    • @zugmeister314
      @zugmeister314 4 місяці тому +1

      "...he never overcame his fear of leaning." OMG this would be horrible! I never even thought this might be a thing.

    • @scarface1961
      @scarface1961 4 місяці тому

      @@zugmeister314 We primarily rode many of the rural roads in the northern third of Illinois. On curves with 55 mph limits when he first got out on his Harley, he would try going through them without a lean. He would slow to 30-35 mph. I told him how dangerous it was to do that. Luckily there was little to no traffic on the farm roads we frequented. He improved in that regard, but you could still see his fear. I told him, that is the best part of riding ...taking the curves or riding twisties. He never had an accident, but he thoroughly believed the jab did him in. He passed away last year at 69. RIP Wally. Thanks for the miles we rode together.

    • @carlaustin7398
      @carlaustin7398 4 місяці тому +1

      I don't think he will come back.
      I think everyone can taught to ride. I don't think everyone should be riding.

  • @infoMentalHealth
    @infoMentalHealth 4 місяці тому +16

    I would be thrilled to take a class with you! quitting wouldn't be an option! I am a BIG fan of yours and often watch the videos as I recover from a stroke I had last October 2023. Looking forward to getting back out there and oneday attending your classes!!!!!!!! I HOPE that guy comes back!

  • @soldierboy425
    @soldierboy425 4 місяці тому +4

    I’ve been riding for over 20 years. Since I’ve been watching your videos. My slow speed riding has improved a lot. I’m looking forward to taking your classes.

  • @pilotalan
    @pilotalan 4 місяці тому +3

    Jerry, thanks for all you do. I'm an IPTM traffic homicide investigator, we've seen the results of not controlling your bike. There's many, many riders alive because of your work, your deep desire to help them, and your calm and patient instructing demeanor. Hopefully one day I'll get down there to do a class with you.

  • @chinwakebhai
    @chinwakebhai 4 місяці тому +3

    When he realizes that he's already deeply invested in motorcycling, money-wise, he will be back. I failed my licence test 3 times, got fed up and gave up, swore I would not go back. I watched youtube for hours and come back the following season, I went back for one last try. I was given unlimited access to the school bikes but I nailed it at the first try.

    • @spartanx169x
      @spartanx169x 4 місяці тому

      Fear of dropping your own bike is a big deal. I won't take any classes for that reason. I can do my own exercises and practice at my own pace without pressure of a teacher watching me and criticizing me. I am self aware enough to know what I need to work on and when I fail.

    • @zimvader25
      @zimvader25 2 місяці тому

      @@spartanx169xin Texas the class is required for your motorcycle license. There’s no other way. Regardless, yeah having people watching you can be nerve wrecking for some, but if you can’t settle down those nerves, motorcycle riding isn’t for you.

  • @p917pilot
    @p917pilot 4 місяці тому +7

    I took the BRC twice before I received my motorcycle endorsement. The first time was in December, and what started as a moderate weekend turned cold and wet very quickly. I had successfully taken the entire course and was going through the final exam. So far, no problems. Time for "panic braking". I was already a bit chilled, as my "Hollywood leathers" were insufficient for the weather. I accelerated to 20 mph, and when signaled, I started rapid braking. I was so cold that I inadvertently applied WAY too much front brake and found myself going over the handlebars to the pavement below. Fail!
    It took me 3 months to get into another class, but this time I was better prepared and realized my mistake. Moral of the story: just don't give up! Get on that horse and ride it!

  • @gwrider18m92
    @gwrider18m92 4 місяці тому +2

    To paraphrase the famous line from 'Cool Hand Luke', "there are some people you just can't reach" Jerry you know as well as I that some people are just too afraid and/or embarrassed to take the time to learn new skills. I certainly hope this rider will return or practice on their own because they are going to get hurt out there somewhere with those pitiful skills, jeez, they couldn't even keep the bike up when stopped. I bought your material a few years back and practiced until it was all second nature and I still practice regularly now, you made me a better more confident rider than I ever was before the instruction and knowledge and that was 25 years of riding! Keep up the great work my friend, ride safe!

  • @swordfish1120
    @swordfish1120 4 місяці тому +7

    I had been riding sport bikes for years and thought I knew how to ride, but when I bought my first Harley eight years ago (2007 Road King Classic) I realized some of the riding techniques are different on a big bike. If these techniques are not learned I found that riding a big bike can be frustrating. I learned all I needed with a couple of your Ride Like a Pro vids along with one from one of your competitors. I think the vids are very informative, but learning from a video obviously requires some discipline, a lot of effort and enthusiasm to be successful. Maybe that rider will be back after practicing on his own for awhile. It took me a full day to get comfortable with the friction zone just riding in a straight line then applying it to riding through the cones, U-turns, figure 8's etc. Looking where I wanted to go was not a problem. I needed to find that sweet spot on my bike where I could feel comfortable controlling my speed with my throttle, rear brake and pulling in my clutch. Once I found it on my bike I could feel the bike stand up on command when I gave it a little throttle while applying rear brake and pulling in the clutch. I think that's the point when most of your students realize they are in control of the bike and not the other way around. I wish you were out in So Cal so I could take a live class.

  • @OMGMOTO
    @OMGMOTO 3 місяці тому +1

    I hope he does come back, these skills are so important.

  • @RogerPilcher
    @RogerPilcher 4 місяці тому +1

    My wife and I rode down to FL and took your class several years ago. It was amazing and we learned a lot!

  • @cliffguthrie7530
    @cliffguthrie7530 4 місяці тому +8

    Probably won’t see him again. But if he does come back, hope he improves and you show his progress.

    • @spartanx169x
      @spartanx169x 4 місяці тому +1

      The problem with these classes is that for most people it puts more pressure on them to perform, they get nervous and can't think. I bet in an empty parking lot alone nobody watching, he could get much better.

  • @bcdeaton777
    @bcdeaton777 Місяць тому +1

    I watch your Channel all the time. I hope he comes back because I really think you could work with him and in time he could be a good rider.
    I can remember going to Rider training for the first time. It is a little intimidating but once I settled down I did great. I sure wish I lived in Florida. I would take your course just to be able to tell everyone that I took the Master's course 😊.

  • @tarynsanmartino8930
    @tarynsanmartino8930 4 місяці тому +2

    Same here. I sure hope he comes back! I know if he does, he will be so glad he did. It will be a life saver and he'll have all the confidence he needs to ride like a pro. Thanks Jerry for putting out this video. It may change the minds of others thinking about coming back. Ride on and safe travels. Say hi to Donna. 🤗

  • @TheGrobe
    @TheGrobe 3 місяці тому +1

    The sportster was a really nice offer and might help them get over some of their fear, being both lighter and not their bike. Hopefully they take you up on it.

  • @seller559
    @seller559 4 місяці тому

    When I was 54 I was considering a motorcycle (Harley). I had no idea what I was doing. I bought a 125 four stroke dirt bike, used. Road it around my property for several months. (I was hoping I would get the whole bike thing out of my system) The experience of crashing, dropping, falling off of that little bike was a huge confidence builder. I gained a real appreciation for the helmet having beat the paint off it….with the ground. I can’t imagine starting out with a big, heavy bike. I would have failed miserably. I think starting small is much easier. Great video. Hopefully the guy continues 👍

  • @myronhorvathsk
    @myronhorvathsk 4 місяці тому +2

    Well Jerry, for his sake I hope he does come back again. It's sad that he didn't stay. I think his ego was probably hurt. I believe it was your Ride Like A Pro video I got from you years ago, and it definitely helped my skills handling a large bike. Larger than I had ever had at that time. Since that I taught my daughter to ride and now I have a niece that wants to learn to ride also. I will be helping her also to ge the basics of handling her bike.

  • @tomfillmore9710
    @tomfillmore9710 4 місяці тому +2

    You have a lot of patience buddy that’s what makes you a great instructor hope the guy comes back to your class. Thanks for sharing take care

    • @motorman857
      @motorman857  4 місяці тому +2

      He called me today and said he will be back Feb.10th for a private lesson. I believe I'll be able to turn him around and get him on the right track.

  • @deborahlewis9128
    @deborahlewis9128 4 місяці тому +7

    That's the last time you'll see him. To his loss.

    • @MotoHikes
      @MotoHikes 3 місяці тому

      This comment aged like fine wine

  • @marcosramos5117
    @marcosramos5117 4 місяці тому +2

    I can tell Jerry is very patient and forgiving with his students, dude really should go back to finish not all instructors are this kind. I recall my MSF instructors setting people aside and having stern talks with them privately for constantly failing 24ft turns-then they would remind everyone that if you can’t complete these turns then you’re not passing the class when we do the 16ft figure 8s and if you continue to ride like this you’re going to die or get really hurt!

  • @douglas-hughes
    @douglas-hughes 3 місяці тому

    I took the class and I am so glad I did. It was hard for me and I was far from the best student in our class but the instructor was completely professional and supportive. The concepts were eye-opening for me but made complete sense. My slow-speed riding in tight, busy circumstances is not perfect but now I know what to do which has greatly lowered my apprehension.

  • @virginiatrailcameravideos
    @virginiatrailcameravideos 4 місяці тому +3

    During 2023 I took a local Ride Like A Pro course. I got so frustrated with myself. I never dropped the bike but I did touch my left foot down a few times that saved me. I didn't quit but there were two people in our class really struggling. One took frequent breaks but stayed. The other left about 2 hours early. There were times I wasn't sure if I was supposed to be using the throttle more, clutch more, etc. I definitely did worse than I thought I would.

    • @truthfilterforyoutube8218
      @truthfilterforyoutube8218 2 місяці тому

      Make sure your bike is properly set up. I never hear him talk about this, Even a brand new bike needs to have it's suspension " Tuned", correctly for the rider. How's your clutch and are your tires good an properly inflated. Is your tire alignment correct ? Are you sure there is no " Cupping", in your tires. Is your frame bent?....if you don't know all of these answers, you need to take it to someone to answer for you. The difference any one of these problems will make taking the course is immense and like night ad day to the handling of the bike.

  • @ursaparabellum
    @ursaparabellum 4 місяці тому

    Something I'm grateful for was a "harsh" teacher. I'd rather have a teacher yell at me and tell me what I'm doing wrong while I'm in a parking lot vs going out and thinking I knew everything and possibly dying on the road cause I thought I knew everything.

  • @user-st4gq2ox8m
    @user-st4gq2ox8m 4 місяці тому

    Rode Motorcycles since I was 20 years old. Got into Aviation and earned a Flight Instructor Certificate at age 30. Trained well over 100 to earn their Private. Teaching friends how to ride kicked my ass. Never even got close. Myself was self taught but rode for years afraid of the front brake the most important brake....God looks out for FOOLS and DRUNKERDS....AS a VET thank you for your Service as a Law Officer....Respect.

  • @TheCallie52809
    @TheCallie52809 4 місяці тому

    I respect that he acknowledged his limitations and made a decision that he felt was right for him.

  • @davidcox8961
    @davidcox8961 4 місяці тому +1

    I started riding again at 75 years old. I'm determined to prove my friends, who tell me I'm gonna get killed, wrong. So, I practice everyday I go riding. I got a BMW with Heed crash bars, front and rear, so I won't have to freak out if I drop it doing figure 8's. Looking forward to my next MC training course, so I can get the endorsement.

  • @rodneyhirsch2340
    @rodneyhirsch2340 4 місяці тому +2

    I went through course with my daughter. Was fun. We had 2 that quit, quite a few new riders. My daughter never had a problem and now has an iron 883 she likes. Was at Boise Harley.

  • @JesusMontiel-gu5um
    @JesusMontiel-gu5um 4 місяці тому +1

    He will be back , guys like that have a lot of pride and don’t give up on themselves he’ll practice to where he knows his bike and he’s not afraid of his bike and he will be ready to learn your lessons and enjoy riding.

  • @SuntoryPop927
    @SuntoryPop927 4 місяці тому +2

    I hope he comes back. I think the biggest problem is if you have been riding for a long time and have developed lots of bad habits and fears.

  • @Bronson2024
    @Bronson2024 4 місяці тому +1

    Jerry, I enjoy and learn from your content even after riding for 57 years. I never regretted putting 37K on Honda 90S as young teenager and learning how itchy a plaster cast can be. ( if he comes back put him on a Honda 90 ).

  • @brettcreech3490
    @brettcreech3490 4 місяці тому +2

    I hope he comes back . Good video Jerry.

  • @irishguyjg_2ndchancerecovery
    @irishguyjg_2ndchancerecovery 4 місяці тому

    It's like the old saying: Noone likes a quitter.

  • @jimmyccee1083
    @jimmyccee1083 4 місяці тому +1

    Your a good man Jerry

  • @billcarson1966
    @billcarson1966 4 місяці тому +1

    I've dealt with this coaching the MSF BRC course. Some people simply refuse to follow instructions. They pay good money to be there, they want their endorsement but they will not listen to instruction. Soon, the other students are surpassing them and once they cannot meet the objectives, we have to remove them. Unfortunately, most usually are pissed at and blame us but some are honest and know it was their fault. A majority do not come back. They go to motor vehicles, easily get their endorsement BUT they still don't know how to ride. Which means they're putting their lives at risk.

  • @Giuseppe_De_Bellis
    @Giuseppe_De_Bellis 4 місяці тому +2

    I have been riding bikes since I was a kid, always humble and respecful of the "machine". Motorbike riding is a sophisticate skill (if you want to do that properly) and needs your attention, concentration, physical strenght and training. Soo many times I spent hours in the malls parkings ( especially when i bought a new bike) to do "8s" and brake tests and the like..
    I do feel that made me a better rider today, but still I learn every day, every turn, every mile.
    Not sure everybody has to ride a bike, though! or that specific bike. This guys obviously cannot master that Harley (yet!).
    Hope he comes back with some stronger will to learn. Otherwise he is a danger for himself anf others on the road.
    Keep up the great work, Jerry! Cheers from italy! 😉

  • @alleyoop1234
    @alleyoop1234 4 місяці тому +3

    You saw his tail light for the last time is my guess! I have worked in places where that type usually do not last a week, most don't last one day!
    That first test is required to pass to get a M/C license where I live.

  • @westcoast3595
    @westcoast3595 4 місяці тому +1

    Jerry seems to give good advice. Fear in anything is a stopper if ya don’t face it. It may be hard sometimes. It does go away. Never a master. Always a student.

  • @brentharrington9235
    @brentharrington9235 4 місяці тому +1

    I had a buddy who wanted to get into riding, so I told him to go take a MSC before spending any money on a bike or gear.
    Long story short...he left halfway through the course, gave me his once used helmet and never considered riding again.
    It takes coordination, confidence and crazy to ride a bike...some people don't have it.

  • @user-fk2mp5xh4s
    @user-fk2mp5xh4s 4 місяці тому

    First time that I rode a motorcycle was at the MSF course. I drove a manual transmission car, and rode a mountain bike is what helped me with basics

  • @kensherrod9448
    @kensherrod9448 4 місяці тому +2

    Copy that. I too believe that if and when this rider returns you.. Will be able to assist him. Thanks Buddy

  • @mhoeij
    @mhoeij 4 місяці тому +2

    He really bought too much bike. The idea that he could be riding like that in traffic is worrisome.

  • @mhurley13
    @mhurley13 4 місяці тому

    you are a great teacher Jerry, please stop by the shop soon, we would love to see you, Mike at euro cycles

  • @senove666
    @senove666 4 місяці тому +1

    You are one of my favorite instructors! Ty

  • @ontheothersideoftheroad
    @ontheothersideoftheroad 4 місяці тому +2

    Hope he comes back

  • @user-vf1to8fn8p
    @user-vf1to8fn8p 4 місяці тому +1

    This class is described as an advanced program. This individual needs to take a MSF basic rider class and practice.

  • @jeniwatkins3297
    @jeniwatkins3297 4 місяці тому +1

    Sad! Hope he returns. I took a rider course at 16 and had a bike in HS years before I had a car. I was the only girl riding in the area back then. Lol
    I had a bad spill during the course. Popped the clutch and like a.fool, tried to ride it out. Nearly succeeded but, the front end bounced too hard and that was it. Roadrash sucks!!! 😂 Instructor cleaned me up, picked gravel outta my knees and I was back out there finishing the class. I never even considered leaving or quiting. Later they realized I'd missed 2 lessons, but I watched and caught on enough they couldn't even tell. That's why it didn't dawn on them til later. 😂 I started on the back in my brothers' sporty when I was 5 ❤
    Rode several.things in the last (nearly) 40 yrs and settled on a beautiful Wide Glide Shovelhead. Until.they day I have to go to a trike

  • @annaval119
    @annaval119 4 місяці тому +1

    The biggest problem is that bikes considered to be status symbols, bigger, better, when in reality there's no bike, only skill, and skill has to be developed step by step. Everybody should start on 150cc

  • @quantumleap1560
    @quantumleap1560 4 місяці тому +1

    Man, that's too bad. I can tell he seems to feel defeated. I think he has potential, but he has to believe in himself and have a will for not giving up....at least not this early in training! I think it's great that you offer alternate learning options for when folks are at this point. Hopefully, he'll realize he's the master of his mind, not the other way around.

  • @tshelby10
    @tshelby10 4 місяці тому +1

    for the ones that quit and never came back, I'm sure the reason is they went home and sold the bike.

  • @noahmercy-mann4323
    @noahmercy-mann4323 4 місяці тому +6

    Not making excuses for him, and I doubt tires had anything to do with his issues, but I can honestly say, when I had Commander IIs on my cruiser, I'd have been VERY nervous on that wet asphalt. For some reason they were horrible on my bike from day one and felt "wooden" in the rain...front end would lose grip with any sudden change in direction. I switched to Avon Cobra Chromes after putting fewer than 1,000 miles on the Michelins, and now I'd feel confident on that course wet or dry.

    • @JP-dw1fp
      @JP-dw1fp 4 місяці тому

      One of the other riders in this same class rented my E/Glide that has Michelin tires. There was no traction problems on that bike. In fact, I've ridden that E/Glide in pouring rain and noticed no problem with the Michelins.

    • @noahmercy-mann4323
      @noahmercy-mann4323 4 місяці тому

      @@JP-dw1fp My bike has more rake and a longer wheelbase than an H-D, and it was absolutely treacherous in the wet on the Commander IIs, and others with the same bike as mine (V Star 1300) have reported the same problem. Maybe just a bad lot, but I ate almost $500 by getting rid of them after a month because I truly felt I was going to crash if I had to ride in the rain on them. The Avons stick like glue, wet or dry, and the original Dunlops and then Metzlers were fine in wet. C'est la vie...

    • @spartanx169x
      @spartanx169x 4 місяці тому

      @@JP-dw1fp The problem is not the traction it is the perception of traction and fear of losing it. No way in hell would I take that class on wet pavement. I KNOW the bike will stick, but knowing and doing are not the same.

  • @oldmanwood5011
    @oldmanwood5011 4 місяці тому +9

    I think he's just telling you what he thinks you want to hear. He won't be back and he'll decide he's happy just riding in a straight line, making 60ft turns, and duck walking his bike at the rallies. I hope for his sake he doesn't try to ride Tail of the Dragon. Not only is he a risk to himself, but to other riders as well. How did he ever pass his test to get his endorsement? And assuming that he probably didn't have drop guards on that Heritage, how badly did he damage it?

    • @grounded7362
      @grounded7362 4 місяці тому +4

      @oldmanwood5011
      That is a question I ask about the majority of riders I come across.
      How did they ever pass the riding test to get their endorsement. But then I remember so many of them went through a Harley Davidson class that allows them to get their endorsement upon completion of the course.
      Those classes are putting a lot of people on bikes with an endorsement that should never get on a bicycle.
      When I got my endorsement I had to go through a road course that was as tight as the motor officer courses and passed with 100% score.
      Never put a foot down, never touched a cone.
      Shortly after getting my endorsement I had a cop pull me over and then asked me how well I did on the road course.
      When I told him he said I must be a better rider than him then.
      I told him that's right.😂
      I credit my skills at that time to my years of riding dirt bikes through the forest with no protective gear and also riding dirt bikes in the winter on the snow and ice.
      I think every new rider should learn to ride dirt before they ever get in the streets.

    • @oldmanwood5011
      @oldmanwood5011 4 місяці тому

      @@grounded7362 Same here; learned to ride on Yamaha Enduros in the red clay hills of southeastern TN and north GA.

    • @MCAdventurerHD131
      @MCAdventurerHD131 4 місяці тому +1

      @@grounded7362Before 2000, a class or instruction was not required to get an endorsement. Today’s new riders are better trained than the 60 year old who has been “riding for 45 years.”

    • @oldmanwood5011
      @oldmanwood5011 4 місяці тому +1

      That's a pretty general statement that is only partly true.

  • @paulpugh2480
    @paulpugh2480 3 місяці тому

    Keep up the good work motor man .

  • @joetrosclair8434
    @joetrosclair8434 4 місяці тому

    I took the rider safety course even though I had 20 years of experience just because I had been off for a few years and was getting a big bagger for the first time.
    We were riding the little Buels in the course.
    There was a Lady at the course that messed up and fell on her face and broke her nose.
    Poor thing. She handled it like a pro though.
    Much respect.

  • @user-ip3kb1sj8u
    @user-ip3kb1sj8u 4 місяці тому

    So many factors here that can affect a rider’s mindset. Size of bike, wet track, confidence, mechanical knowledge. He would be better off with a beginner class on smaller bikes with classroom instruction. Then, practice, practice, practice. And yes, we do come back (as one who did quit and went back to several classes).

  • @I_am_archie
    @I_am_archie 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Jerry

  • @KipBurbank1
    @KipBurbank1 4 місяці тому

    Wet morning. I found the follow-the-leader was a great method of showing the rider behind how it’s done.

  • @patricklawrence2755
    @patricklawrence2755 4 місяці тому +1

    Fear and embarrassment is a huge deterrent for new riders. Kids don’t mind but adults don’t like to look silly while they try to be kool. If it were easy everybody would ride
    30+ yrs riding i tell newbies 2 things. 1. We ALL started not knowing and 2. 70% or so drop a bike or crash inside of 10 months. Get it over with and come back smarter. Riding schools are a must!!!

  • @pmdinaz
    @pmdinaz 4 місяці тому +1

    For his own self preservation Ihooe he comes back.
    It would be inspiring for others as well.
    I've been through a few classes and practice weekly.
    My brother is an example of someone who should not ride. He tried, got scared. I encouraged him to take classes, then I found out he simply doesn't have the attention span to be safe.He also admitted this and he is safe in his car. We aren't though...and I pray he drives as little as possible

  • @Kista79
    @Kista79 4 місяці тому +1

    I didn't pass the first time, I aced everything else but with one final riding tests I was nervous and worked up with the time limits they give you. That particular one was where you have to get up to a certain speed and then stop within a specified timeframe and I grabbed too much front brake and the bike went down which automatically fails you. I was able to get back in 2 weeks later and passed with flying colors. They were correct in the beginning that for the riders that come from off-road they typically have problems adjusting, when off-road everything is way more forgiving except for out on the street.

  • @RobertBucks-xh9tt
    @RobertBucks-xh9tt 4 місяці тому +1

    I really hope he comes back. A softail is an easy bike for the course. He really needs to build some self confidence.

  • @opichocal
    @opichocal 4 місяці тому +1

    Some people just don’t have the will to learn. I’ve met several people that had no business riding a motorcycle and seen some of them get hurt or killed

  • @jimmyccee1083
    @jimmyccee1083 4 місяці тому +1

    Retired Motor Captain here…some people should not ride motorcycles. The mind can be tricky, regardless of the amount of practice.

  • @RandyCRR
    @RandyCRR 4 місяці тому +3

    I don’t think he will be back. Some people just don’t have it and probably shouldn’t ride a motorcycle.

  • @MrScullydog
    @MrScullydog 4 місяці тому

    love your content and its always great to hear you on breitbart , I'm not sure if you were jogging or not lol but it was great to hear from you.

  • @Shaken_AND_Stirred
    @Shaken_AND_Stirred 4 місяці тому +2

    It’s tough seeing those high dollar Harley’s being dropped. Fortunately this is in a controlled environment where the riders are not injured.

  • @timothykelley9008
    @timothykelley9008 4 місяці тому

    Well I don't know if he might not come back but I injoy watching your videos

  • @marceloperdomo4043
    @marceloperdomo4043 4 місяці тому

    Sir, you have lots of patience, God bless you !
    We live on a world full of wimps !

  • @kevinberard9185
    @kevinberard9185 4 місяці тому +1

    I hope he takes you up on your offer.
    I took your course, started out intimidated. You told me to relax and I'd do fine. By the end of the course, I had it down. I'm a better rider for it

  • @josephgalligher1058
    @josephgalligher1058 4 місяці тому

    Quitting is a permanent solution, to a temporary problem. With that being said, you have to understand your own limitations.

  • @jaycee1373
    @jaycee1373 4 місяці тому +1

    Coincidentally, upon getting home that evening Jerry was dismayed to find he had one less UA-cam subscriber.

  • @gregferris9378
    @gregferris9378 4 місяці тому +1

    I've been riding for 50 years and practice every chance I get. I think it's very important to hone your skills. Maybe some people that want to ride should be on a trike.

  • @jamaicanjjason
    @jamaicanjjason 4 місяці тому +1

    He’ll be back

  • @pamelaroberts3517
    @pamelaroberts3517 4 місяці тому +1

    Fingers crossed he returns 😮x

  • @heatherneville4371
    @heatherneville4371 4 місяці тому +1

    I would love to take your course

  • @user-ux7ir4tc4d
    @user-ux7ir4tc4d 4 місяці тому

    You are the Man

  • @jerrybrown66
    @jerrybrown66 4 місяці тому +1

    I first saw motoman and his wife in Marysville, OH in the 2006-2008 timeframe. After riding for years, I had the sudden feeling of being completely ignorant about real riding. So I purchased some videos and cones and practiced. I'd love to do the course in FL at some point.

  • @vics8873
    @vics8873 4 місяці тому +1

    Did he take your video Ride Like a Pro with him? It did wonders for me!

  • @grantbradley5084
    @grantbradley5084 4 місяці тому

    I’m still amazed to see “veteran riders” do the two foot shuffle when taking off, and those that drive down the block to turn around because they can’t do a U turn.

  • @keltecdan
    @keltecdan 4 місяці тому +1

    It boggles my mind that a rider would not come back to get better at riding especially when it’s your life on the line riding out there.

  • @satchelh
    @satchelh 4 місяці тому

    The scary part is he got his license and is out there among us on the streets.

  • @tmurrayis
    @tmurrayis 4 місяці тому +1

    If he is watching this and reading the reviews he needs to know that without these basic skills he is likely to have a very painful experience on his bike. As sad as that may be it may be much better to admit defeat and sell the bike rather than continue to fake it until you make it. One inattentive moment by you or worse, by someone else and it could end very badly.

  • @Redmenace96
    @Redmenace96 4 місяці тому +1

    In one of my classes (I've taken like 6 different courses over 20 years) two super hot chicks showed up. They struggled with putting on basic safety equipment. Then, the first drill was simply pushing the cycle, setting it down and picking it up. Took them forever. Second drill was feeling the clutch. They quit and walked off. Not sure what they were looking for.

  • @johnr5545
    @johnr5545 3 місяці тому

    Nice job god bless

  • @tomskehan8656
    @tomskehan8656 4 місяці тому

    Leave the ego at home, if he doesn’t come back he’ll always regret it, it’s all about getting over the fear factor, just have fun with it!

  • @randallfosnocht1171
    @randallfosnocht1171 4 місяці тому +1

    He's history

  • @Thelurpy1
    @Thelurpy1 4 місяці тому +3

    Hey Jerry, I live out in Utah and would love to take one of your courses. Do you offer anything out West?

  • @smudgemo
    @smudgemo 4 місяці тому +1

    It's really a shame so many new riders refuse to start small and work up to where they want to be.

  • @alvintarrer6914
    @alvintarrer6914 4 місяці тому

    Good stuff,hanging in like a pro 👍☕️☕️✌️

  • @sandtrap9
    @sandtrap9 4 місяці тому +1

    I hope he returns.

    • @motorman857
      @motorman857  4 місяці тому

      He called me today and said he will be back Feb.10th for a private lesson. I believe I'll be able to turn him around and get him on the right track.

  • @davidspin5353
    @davidspin5353 4 місяці тому +1

    RLAP is bar far the best training, ive done MSF twice and the advanced course. Jerry and his wife are excellent.

  • @mojomanmurph1925
    @mojomanmurph1925 4 місяці тому +1

    We all start out from the beginning. I have encountered people like this on the road. If they are not willing to set the ego aside and practice then their best bet is to stay off the motorcycle for their own safety more than anything else.

  • @georgeferguson9779
    @georgeferguson9779 4 місяці тому +1

    A u-turn is just two, right or left turns. Wish I lived over there. I’d take your class it looks like lots of fun. All I have for a street bike is my 2014 Scrambler. And two dual sport bikes.

  • @IveAlreadyWon
    @IveAlreadyWon 4 місяці тому

    Definitely riding scared. It makes me nervous for him on the streets based on how he's riding. I'm hopeful that he goes back as I think you'd definitely be able to help him.

    • @motorman857
      @motorman857  4 місяці тому

      He called me today and said he will be back Feb.10th for a private lesson. I believe I'll be able to turn him around and get him on the right track.

  • @heystarfish100
    @heystarfish100 4 місяці тому

    I feel bad for this rider and wish him all the best. It might be very beneficial to your private lesson student to have a in helmet communication device so you could literally talk to them calmly about what they can do and how to react to the course challenges.

  • @jeffboyd3391
    @jeffboyd3391 4 місяці тому

    I will admit to leaving a training class in the middle of it. It was in Louisville, KY a couple of years ago, put on by a franchise of your course. This is not a complaint about the instructor.
    I had a new Road King, and I would say my skill level was about middle of the class or a little better. There were two police officers that had raced motocross when they were younger. They were good riders and aggressive. I had not dropped my bike yet, but it became apparent to me that there was no way I was going to get through the class without dropping my bike. I didn’t have protection on my crash bars and didn’t want to trash them up. The two police officers dropped their bikes multiple times as did a gold wing rider and there was one gentleman that trailered a new Indian to the class. It was ugly, the bike will never be the same.
    I’ve ridden for over 50 years and while no expert, I am experienced.
    Should I have stayed, I don’t know, I wasn’t enjoying myself. I should have installed some good, sturdy protection on my crash bars, that is on me.
    My bike has the hydraulic clutch is not great at the friction zone stuff