Thank you so much for another great listening guide! It helps me so much to understand the structure and ideas of the pieces. Never stop this series please!
He is my favorite composer, deservedly so... this entire symphony is a masterpiece of the highest caliber,,but the 3rd and 4th movements are just on a complete other level.
Yep me too. You are watching the same videos as me. In my view, most commentators lack the courage to give Haydn the credit he deserves because it's counter to everything they've been taught in Music school.
This is so timely! I just had a "Haydn week" while working from home, and just began to explore his symphonies, including No. 104. I can't think of a better composer to take your mind off the Corona crisis.
There are at least 40 other symphonies that have been accredited to him, some of which are probably actually by him. You've forgotten the A and B symphonies for a start. I would argue that Haydn's fortunes actually changed when he got employed by Count Morzin. However, there are some good points that get to the root of haydn. He never is predictable unlike certain famous composers I could mention. Thanks to Paul Rissmann for showing so much enthusiasm for Haydn and pointing out things that underline his greatness that are not immediately obvious to the casual listener.
Too much has been made of the relationship between Haydn and Mozart. Mozart made more complimentary comments about Haydn than the other way around. Mozart was more of a friend to Michael Haydn.
@@bobshifimods7302 Before Mozart moved to Vienna in 1781, Mozart was as you say, very friendly with Michael Haydn in spite of some rather nasty sniping from Leopold Mozart; at this time, Mozart only knew Joseph Haydn through his scores, and any music that he may have heard or played. From their first meetings in Vienna, this changed; Joseph Haydn occupied a very special and unique place in Mozart’s affections, and after his death, Constanza told people that her husband always described Joseph Haydn as his ‘…best friend’.
Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky.........none of them lived as long as Haydn did. So I don't think it it fair to associate the word only for their symphonies. 0:44 I got uncomfortable with that statement.
Thank you so much for another great listening guide! It helps me so much to understand the structure and ideas of the pieces. Never stop this series please!
He is my favorite composer, deservedly so... this entire symphony is a masterpiece of the highest caliber,,but the 3rd and 4th movements are just on a complete other level.
Yep me too. You are watching the same videos as me. In my view, most commentators lack the courage to give Haydn the credit he deserves because it's counter to everything they've been taught in Music school.
This is so timely! I just had a "Haydn week" while working from home, and just began to explore his symphonies, including No. 104. I can't think of a better composer to take your mind off the Corona crisis.
Fantastic! We're so glad this fit into your week!
'Haydn' week
'Hiding' week
I love Paul rissman's listening guides. Especially the ones on Billy the kid and Bartok's concerto for orchestra
And his series on the planets by Holst and the firebird by Stravinsky and the rite of spring
And his one on leutenant Kije
There are at least 40 other symphonies that have been accredited to him, some of which are probably actually by him. You've forgotten the A and B symphonies for a start. I would argue that Haydn's fortunes actually changed when he got employed by Count Morzin. However, there are some good points that get to the root of haydn. He never is predictable unlike certain famous composers I could mention. Thanks to Paul Rissmann for showing so much enthusiasm for Haydn and pointing out things that underline his greatness that are not immediately obvious to the casual listener.
Thanks for watching!
The bass drone at the beginning of the fourth movement reminds me of bagpipes. Maybe Haydn heard those in London.
Paul is really great music scientist! Wonderful video
He was a champion of Mozart.
Too much has been made of the relationship between Haydn and Mozart. Mozart made more complimentary comments about Haydn than the other way around. Mozart was more of a friend to Michael Haydn.
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Before Mozart moved to Vienna in 1781, Mozart was as you say, very friendly with Michael Haydn in spite of some rather nasty sniping from Leopold Mozart; at this time, Mozart only knew Joseph Haydn through his scores, and any music that he may have heard or played.
From their first meetings in Vienna, this changed; Joseph Haydn occupied a very special and unique place in Mozart’s affections, and after his death, Constanza told people that her husband always described Joseph Haydn as his ‘…best friend’.
Thanks ... 😍👍🍻
“No. 104 is one his best”. IMO it is his best, the finest symphony of the classical period. Who is the conductor of the excerpts?
101 is the best IMO then 103 then 45, but what the heck it's all great.
@12:40 - "his old friend silence"? Better silence than darkness, I suppose!
9:03 same goes for Tchaikovsky
exactly
Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky.........none of them lived as long as Haydn did.
So I don't think it it fair to associate the word only for their symphonies.
0:44
I got uncomfortable with that statement.
Detective Home Your right - and the Mozart ‘...only 41 symphonies’ was particularly silly given that his lifespan was less than half that of Haydn.