@@My1xT Exactly, i was wondering if that all those attacks he demonstrated would work if the door was actually locked. I'm not familiar with those type of doors but looking at the bolt it looks like the knob won't even move when the mechanism is actually locked.
@@miguelfontenele221 Because of fire code, the inside handle must always operate the door latch. No exception. What happens is a clutch on the outer handle disengages when the door is locked, meaning the outer handle won't operate the mechanism. The first two attacks exploited the fact that the inner handle MUST be live, to actuate it and open the door. I'd highly suggest watching some of Deviant Ollam's videos (particularly his con talks) where he goes into this stuff in much more detail, explaining the whys and the hows.
The bolt on this lock has two component parts the nearest part should come to stop against the latch plate when the door is closed, once the furthest part reaches past the strike plate into the door frame its "locked" in place by the mechanism.Once locked in place it cannot be manipulated back as per the demonstration so in this case the missing strike plate is causing the lack of security on this door by allowing the near part to extend too far.
@@miguelfontenele221 and not only that I wonder how it would be if wither the door would be thicker and at the part outside wider so it covers the frame, or just if the attack would be tried on the other side of the door where the frame is covering the bolt and stuff. I mean virtually all doors I see here in germany are like that and not just so stupidly wide open
Always use the strike plate that comes with the lock/handle. If you need to modify your door, then do so. Save minutes or save millions, you can only pick one.
I'm baffled. The door simply closes the wrong way. If it would open the other way, the remaining parts of the door (sorry, I'm not natively speaking english and don't know many door-related terms) would be in the way. Sure, it's still pretty easy to get around the tight corner with a coke bottle sheet. But I'm wondering, is this standard in the US? Are most latches accessible that easily?
Hinge pin placement is dictated by the direction of door swing, naturally. In occupied structures (particularly ones where a room can hold 50+ people, and is therefore an "area of assembly") egress must be facilitated during emergencies. That means lever style door handles or panic exit devices and --of course-- outswing doors. That means exposed hinges, etc.
Poorly worded, I know. Yes of cause it is dedicated by direction of swing. And yes, now you say it, emergency exits are always opening to the outside in my experience as well. Must have been a major Brain pause ;) Thanks!
@Stimpy&Ren we get them but they are either not used or they get sold separately and never bought. Also people don't understand a how a door should fit.
@@vincentconti3633 Most of the time that is correct. There are ways to secure a door where hinge pins are on the entry side. Deviant covers that in one of his many videos. Check this video for more info ... ua-cam.com/video/4YYvBLAF4T8/v-deo.html
I demonstrated this to a facilities manager decades ago. He had just commissioned a shiny new electronic card entry system, including on the heavy reinforced steel door to the car park. It opened outwards, with nothing covering the bolt & strike, and either had no deadlocking or it wasn't activated by the strike. There was also no alarm detecting the door opening without authorisation from the electronics. I had been chatting to him about random stuff as we walked to the door, then casually pulled out my security card and unlocked the door for us to enter. I didn't use the card reader, but instead just directly moved the bolt aside with my security card, which was actually quicker and easier than using the card reader. His "WTF?" reaction was priceless, and I then took the time to explain the flaws to him.
Yep. one of my classmates "broke into" the classroom like that with his student ID because the teacher was late and we were all sick of standing in the hallway. When the teacher came and found all of us sitting in a locked classroom he just said not to even tell him how we got in.
I feel like Deviant could have explained dead latches a bit better, like in his presentations. Just to explain it to those who are curious, if you look at your door, you can probably see a cylindrical of half-cylindrical object at the latch. That is called the dead latch. Usually, when the door is closed, the dead latch is supposed to be pushed in. Then, the actual latch cannot be retracted unless the knob or handle is pulled down/up. However, a lot of door locks sell their locks with a strike plate with a hole too big, which doesn't press the dead latch down. This is what Deviant is abusing in this video. Edit: For more information, look at Deviant explaining this at 5:42 at this video: ua-cam.com/video/rnmcRTnTNC8/v-deo.html
I wasn't sure what deviant was talking about in the video, but as soon as I looked at your description I know exactly what you're talkin about now, without even clicking on the video that you linked. Thank you.
I came into office early and the door was locked and I didn't have keys, so I pried the latch open with my knife. I thought it was a design flaw with the lock, thanks to your info, I now know that every lock of that type in the building was installed incorrectly. Ouch lol. I hope it wasn't some guy who calls himself a "professional".
Deviant's book on Practical Lock Picking is amazing. And I'm a little jealous of a guy who gets paid to go around legally breaking into places and causing havoc.
Atlas Dragon no he gets paid to break into places without security knowing and fuck around with their building, this includes hiding in elevators and driving the golf carts of security personal around
It's a traveler hook because on ring spinning machines that make yarn, there is a spinning little clip called a traveler. That is the tool that is used to install them.
Master lock made the choice to mass produce for low cost. High security, isnt their thing despite what they say. This was likely installed by the maintenance guy with no security training. He didn't know any better, so you end up with bad mistakes.
@@lefend sometimes the decision to forgo the strike plate is a cost one handed down by somebody ignorant of security. In a business setting decisions pass through the hands of many people so the security expert's plan may have to survive a game of telephone, and he may never have even noticed what happened. Even in a non bureaucratic failing it could be as simple as the unit ordered didn't come with it and that's when they learned why it was cheaper, security expert throws it in with this vulnerability basically hoping nobody notices until the plate comes in. I wouldn't say that the security expert is wholly to blame.
@@SherrifOfNottingham True. I'm not trying to blame the security expert or the installer. The security expert has the dual role to both figure out what is best and communicate those needs to the decision maker(s), to whatever extent they can. It falls on the decision makers to choose what and how it's done. All you can do is document the recommendations and communication for if there is a problem later. As the "expert", we dont want the lack of secureness to fall back on us.
@@SherrifOfNottingham I believe when deviant first learned of them, it was from someone who got them from the garment industry, but my memory is fuzzy from his past talks.
Yep, yet another attack 98% of locks in Europe are completely immune to. Lip on door, separate lock bolt with non-angled edges and moved by rotation of the core, not springloaded. the remaining 2% was imported from USA.
@@sharpfang Although, in public places locks are a lot more vulnerable, usually you have to have hinges and the door must open from the inside without a key, in case of a fire. That introduces a bunch of vulnerabilities if someone doesn't think through the lock (which is a problem European lock companies aren't immune of).
@@DeeSnow97 Nearly all doors use shaped frame with multiple bends and flexible seals which makes squeezing anything through about impossible. Also lock bolts are separate from handle latches, not springloaded - you can't move them without turning the core (may be through an internal knob but you'd need to reach it, Olam demonstrated a tool that could do it if you can squeeze it through a gap, but with shaped frame that won't happen).
@@sharpfang Weather stripping is not a security device. The bends do help, but wires can sometimes defeat that. Also, I know lock bolts are separate, but those are the deadbolts you maybe use at the end of the day. In public buildings with a whole bunch of people inside you can't have something like that, if it doesn't open with an internal handle it's a fire hazard. (And there's a reason latches are shaped like that, it's so that the door can close on its own -- again, used every time a door opens without a key from either side.) I know our homes are different. I live in Europe too, and have the exact arrangement you described on my doors. But as far as I know, this is more of a problem with public spaces for our American friends too, they usually get screwed by fire code in most cases, which doesn't require the same practices to homes and other low-occupancy places.
And then i look at the doors here in Germany where every door is double folded and think: Why do they use such crappy door at all. The Hook under the door might have worked for some doors within an apartment. But not on doors for apartments or houses.
Not even for inside doors. All have sills, none have those spaces on sides (neither hinges outside from any side). And even if there was space on the top, you cannot pull it up. If there was space on the bottom (no sill), the door handle doesn't have the dumb [ shape, just normal L, so it would slip off. And those are inside doors, not talking about front door. I am a little bit disappointed with the last episodes.
@@SuperAWaC So you are trying to tell me that in the America the doors are much safer as the doors in the this video? This are the doors i was talking abount.
@@SuperAWaC But thats my point. Even if i want to, i couldn't even buy a door that bad here. Even the cheapest doors (eg. 25 €) you can buy here do not have these design flaws e.g. the exposed deadbolt. The Deadbolts here are always covered from both sides. The top side has double rebate (Türfalz) as well. Therefore the trick with the Movie Film would not work. Also because we have rubber seals on the left, the right and the top.
I was gonna say that but you were first. Some exposed hinges are "Knurped" with a set screw inside to secure the hinge pin, but only locksmiths know that those exist...………………………...elsullo
In most parts of Europe there is a requirement that hinges must be placed on the inside of the door.. Also most doors have also protections against crowbar attacks. Not to mention that most people have burglar alarms. One of the most effective methods to get inside, is to just ring the doorbell and wait till someone opens the door..
@@2Fast4Mellow most of these exploits are targeted towards businesses that have safety mandates and fire codes. The under and over door attack videos only work on large businesses for those reasons because they're required to open from the inside with door handles that can be operated without grasping them. Deviant's expertise comes from penetration testing, which all businesses over a certain size (I think fortune 500???) are required to get done annually. Home security is a very different matter from most of this.
I'm guessing that this is one of RTAs training doors. (haven't watched any of their stuff or others in this series) It's purposefully built that way to create a one stop shop of security vulnerabilities as a teaching aid.
@@olinseats4003 The fact that so many in the comments of this series of videos have this attitude of "...well, we don't have doors here like that - so that's obviously just a dumb US problem" and whatnot is absolutely mind numbing. They're exactly the people in this world that make SIMPLE attacks like these viable in so many places, completely misunderstanding the point of this video series, continuing to live their lives ignorant of their own security problems, just because "...well, my door isn't like THAT one..."
I have a question though What if it is push type of door for entrance, would it make it any harder? The hinges would be on the inside and there's this protrusion on the door frame that would block that creepy pointy tool to operate. In short, like the door on the left.
I'm sure you've answered your question by now, but for posterity's sake, I'd first try something more flexible like a plastic card to loid the latch, then either try to pick the lock or an over/under door attack, depending.
Shim Barax It's a textile making tool used in the textile industry. The ones Deviant uses are from a US textile equipment company. "Traveler hook" is the tool name.
I once opened a locked closet door using my pocket knife. There was enough room that I could get the knife in and use the tip of it to move the latch while pulling on the door so the friction of the latch against the strike plate would stop it from popping back out
I have no idea why I keep watching these videos and how almost 3m people are subscribed. Odd what resonates with people for no logical reason unless all 3m folks and myself are training to be covert operatives!
Deviant has done a ton of talks. DEFCON (Gun Safe Failures) : ua-cam.com/video/3SVMT_zNlgA/v-deo.html HOPE (Mastering Master Keys): ua-cam.com/video/aVPSaKLKHd4/v-deo.html CarolinaCon (Elevator Hacks): ua-cam.com/video/EqttQ3U-w-s/v-deo.html Shakacon (Search For The Perfect Door): ua-cam.com/video/4YYvBLAF4T8/v-deo.html
My buddy used to get into the house from the garage doing this. But he grabbed a screw driver and did it. Crazy how people will work so hard to break in and not go get a job and earn it honestly
One of my apartments had an electronic lock that was so worn out, it was faster and easier to jimmy it. The proper way required you to insert the key all the way and jiggle it while slowly pulling it out until something connected. The fast way was to use any key as a tool to rotate the drum that the bolt latched behind. There was clearly something that was supposed to cover it, and I think it was supposed to have its own solenoid dead bolt to keep the drum from rotating.
Come on man, of course it's going to open like that when there's no strike plate in the frame! That frame should have a 4-7/8" x 1-1/4" (ANSI size) strike plate installed and usually with a prefab frame like this it's aligned properly enough to cause the deadlatch (the smaller part of the latch) to correctly cause the latch to deadlock and not be able to be opened like this. This was a set-up solely intended to cause shock to people and I am surprised at LPL allowing this sort of rubbish on a normally very good & interesting channel.
I have watched a whole bunch of Deviant Ollam's videos from various conventions and seminars over the last year or so. Glad to see this collaboration series. Also, congratulations on 1M+ subs. Well earned, sir.
ideally the door itself also extends a bit OVER the frame so you cant easily get that in. or maybe just actually LOCK the door I mean even an electronic lock should be capable of blocking the bolt.
The door extending over the frame sounds like a good idea but that doesn't change a lot. In that case you push against the upper or lower part of the door. That gives you enough space to use a similar device that has a step in it. Like these: shop.multipick.com/en/opening--locksmith-tools/opening-closed-doors/offset-doors/door-latch-pick-needles/latch-pick-needle-set-3-piece. - I've actually had to create something like this on the fly because I had left my keys in my apartment. Got a thin allen key and some pliers from a hardware store nearby and made my own latch needle in a few minutes. Unfortunately it had taken me over an hour to come up with that idea ;) What you need is a stiff metal piece that doesn't give you any leverage to bend it out of the way to block access
Deviant plus LockPickingLawyer is like a master learning from a legend. These videos are the final steps before you to become a legend. It makes me want to cry.
As a property manager, for tool and hippa file storage, I always put a drywall screw above and below the strike bolt on the jamb and set it so it doesn't rub.
The good ole butter knife trick modernized.... I thought a hardening plate that covered that area was like ten bucks... How much is that code lock again?
madscientist No cover plate needed, just the right model of the strike plate that's usually included with the lock along with a small drawing saying exactly where it goes (usually 1/16" to 1/8" inch from the lock at the same height, buried in the doorframe so it can't be unscrewed). The higher security option is an all steel doorframe with the exact same cutouts.
Absolutely correct, always change your strike plate to the one provided by the manufacturer and ensure the auxiliary latch is engaged so the primary latch is deadlocked.
Hey LPL I finally got my lock pick set and have found that you make it look way easier than it is!! The practice clear lock I only have to set 2 pins 6 and 1 so I got a small brinks lock and it’s kicking my butt! I’m staying at it though!
The correct solution: use the system that once the door is closed, there's a larger latch popping in the door frame and that's not spring-loaded. Quite common on Czech appartment house entry doors. (These are called "self-locking" locks here.)
This door is just ridiculous, who would use something like that, i never even saw a door without two different bolts one for the handle (angled) one for the lock (unangeled and only moves if the lock cylinder is turned)
@@gordbaker896 The same thing I’ve seen for decades. The doors on our house are for the safety of those on the outside. Once you cross the threshold......
The main problem with dead latches is that most installers don't know what their purpose is or how they work. The natural assumption when you see one if you know nothing about them is that both it and the regular latch should fit into the hole on the strike plate, so they install the strike plate wrong, which defeats the dead latch.
I've seen a trick like this with a pocket knife used to push down and over then pull the door to hold its movement then repeat until the latch opens I've even seen it work on a deadbolt... 🍻cheers🥃
I am near Calgary Alberta and there is a steel door company (I won't name) that makes their doors WRONG. The pre-made fitting in the door for the latch is about 2 millimetres off centre, biased towards the inside of the door. This means the the little sliding security bolt always slides INSIDE the striker plate, making it vulnerable to this type of picking. Because whee you lock most doors, the "lock" only locks the HANDLE against turning, but the latch is spring powered and can be pushed in by hand. When the little bolt is retracted, then it also locks the actual latch to prevent it from been manually pushed in. Once I identified the problem, we had a rep from the company meet us on site where we demonstrated the problem. He kept wavering between "the customer is too fussy" and "the installers installed it wrong". Finally we got him to understand and agree that the latch position was indeed set wrong, but... the company did nothing about it.
With all due respect LPL, this stuff has been around for quite some time, why the sudden attention to it. Don't get me wrong, it's great stuff, but the Deviant guys been showing off their skills for a while.
The handiest thing ever invented is the wire coathanger. With strong thread or string it's a well-known UD tool, no need to buy one. Form a slot and bend to "L" shape for storefront thumb turns. Slim-jim cars and for those with shields push the button or pull the lock or latch across the car. Hammer flat and file to shape for a warded pick or lever-lifter. And can re-hang your car muffler for a quiet getaway too! Hotel security and Cops are onto all this, so don't get caught possessing or you'll get dragged in for questioning or worse.
All public building entrances are required by law to swing outward in the US. depending on the location and use interior doors (main halls etc) will swing outward as well to prevent crowd locking during an emergency.
On Outswinging exterior doors, a BETTER hardware choice is an industrial grade Panic Device. This gets the latch away from the exterior exposure altogether, and is far beefier than any lever X lever lock, meets life safety codes for high occupancy buildings, and can withstand rolling carts and other impact. An additional benefit of a good panic device, is the forgiving nature of how they lock. The pullman design latch seeks a snugly perfect fit with each closure, allows for hinge wear etc. As long as door can reliably CLOSE, the panic device will perform brilliantly. Expect a quality device with the EPLEX exterior lever operator as shown in the example video, with prox reader to sun about 3200.00-7000.00 installed, depending on options required, such as latch and door monitoring. You got to step up if you want long-term products. The good stuff are not the 69.00-700.00 panic devices you see on ebay or amazonia! Doorways should have engineered solutions, not hardware slapping. No electric strikes, no maglocks. Panic devices can work off a wall mounted prox reader, if there is a 2 door all the way up to enterprise access control system, the unlocking is done in the exit device itself, not externally.
So could you say buy a ignition barrel for top end Ferrari then learn it show a friend how to then that friend go look for a Ferrari on the streets? Or to simplify start a car with out the key say you lost it
I know the Americans have some very odd names, but surely nobody is actually called Deviant Ollam! If you listen carefully, LPL calls him Devian Olaf - that's more likely. Surely? Isn't it? :-)
Decades ago I always carried a Boy Scout jack knife. The can-opener blade was kind of long, and was excellent for getting behind the lock bolt of any door that opened outward and had an ordinary strike plate. Simply levering on the round headed can-opener slid the bolt easily. No, I was not a criminal...……………………………...elsullo
Door is the wrong way round. Breaking OUT is a THOUSAND times easier than breaking IN. None of the techniques shown will work on a door that has been installed the right way round, even if it was installed poorly!
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So no matter how good a lock is. The security can be compromised by poor installation.
actually if you would actually LOCK the door with a bolt that actually stays in place then it's a lot harder.
@@My1xT Exactly, i was wondering if that all those attacks he demonstrated would work if the door was actually locked. I'm not familiar with those type of doors but looking at the bolt it looks like the knob won't even move when the mechanism is actually locked.
@@miguelfontenele221 Because of fire code, the inside handle must always operate the door latch. No exception. What happens is a clutch on the outer handle disengages when the door is locked, meaning the outer handle won't operate the mechanism.
The first two attacks exploited the fact that the inner handle MUST be live, to actuate it and open the door.
I'd highly suggest watching some of Deviant Ollam's videos (particularly his con talks) where he goes into this stuff in much more detail, explaining the whys and the hows.
The bolt on this lock has two component parts the nearest part should come to stop against the latch plate when the door is closed, once the furthest part reaches past the strike plate into the door frame its "locked" in place by the mechanism.Once locked in place it cannot be manipulated back as per the demonstration so in this case the missing strike plate is causing the lack of security on this door by allowing the near part to extend too far.
@@miguelfontenele221 and not only that I wonder how it would be if wither the door would be thicker and at the part outside wider so it covers the frame, or just if the attack would be tried on the other side of the door where the frame is covering the bolt and stuff. I mean virtually all doors I see here in germany are like that and not just so stupidly wide open
Love the Cascadia hat, Deviant.
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I used a pick similar to this that’s with my gun cleaning stuff to open a closet door that had the knob messed up.
Always use the strike plate that comes with the lock/handle. If you need to modify your door, then do so. Save minutes or save millions, you can only pick one.
People who find these videos interesting may want to check youtube for Deviant Ollam's various 30+ minute presentations. They are quite entertaining.
Deviant"s favorite tool
It's really really up there yeah
Just hit 1 million subscribers!!! Hurray and well done. Please show us a video of you receiving your plague from you tube!!
There is another method used here in the ph by most students. We just use our hard plastic id to open up those doors
lol, no way did LPL call 'Deviant Ollam', 'Deviant Ollaf'.
That's the correct pronunciation
My boss still hasn't given me a key to one of the areas of the building I need to clean and I do this, ironically, with my work key lol
I'm baffled. The door simply closes the wrong way. If it would open the other way, the remaining parts of the door (sorry, I'm not natively speaking english and don't know many door-related terms) would be in the way.
Sure, it's still pretty easy to get around the tight corner with a coke bottle sheet.
But I'm wondering, is this standard in the US? Are most latches accessible that easily?
Hinge pin placement is dictated by the direction of door swing, naturally.
In occupied structures (particularly ones where a room can hold 50+ people, and is therefore an "area of assembly") egress must be facilitated during emergencies. That means lever style door handles or panic exit devices and --of course-- outswing doors. That means exposed hinges, etc.
Poorly worded, I know. Yes of cause it is dedicated by direction of swing.
And yes, now you say it, emergency exits are always opening to the outside in my experience as well.
Must have been a major Brain pause ;)
Thanks!
Thanks guys
OMG that attack was so fast that, LPL just picked two masterlocks in the meantime
@@colinsouthern I heard the locks were in another room when he did it... Specifically the vault at fort Knox.
Colin Southern
And holding the camera.
@Stimpy&Ren a lot of people don't really want to spend the money to have a properly fitted door jamb and strike plate
@Stimpy&Ren we get them but they are either not used or they get sold separately and never bought. Also people don't understand a how a door should fit.
Lpl is the nan.
Looking at the installation of the door, I predict the next segment will be removal of the hinge pins.
Heh, but we do it with panache :-)
@@DeviantOllam I must get down to my local store and get a jar of panache right away.
Hinge pins are not placed on the entry side of a security door...for obvious reasons!
You called it
@@vincentconti3633 Most of the time that is correct. There are ways to secure a door where hinge pins are on the entry side. Deviant covers that in one of his many videos. Check this video for more info ... ua-cam.com/video/4YYvBLAF4T8/v-deo.html
I demonstrated this to a facilities manager decades ago. He had just commissioned a shiny new electronic card entry system, including on the heavy reinforced steel door to the car park. It opened outwards, with nothing covering the bolt & strike, and either had no deadlocking or it wasn't activated by the strike. There was also no alarm detecting the door opening without authorisation from the electronics.
I had been chatting to him about random stuff as we walked to the door, then casually pulled out my security card and unlocked the door for us to enter. I didn't use the card reader, but instead just directly moved the bolt aside with my security card, which was actually quicker and easier than using the card reader. His "WTF?" reaction was priceless, and I then took the time to explain the flaws to him.
Ha ha, that's an amazing story.
Obviously a reasonable boss, that would backfire massively with some.
Yep. one of my classmates "broke into" the classroom like that with his student ID because the teacher was late and we were all sick of standing in the hallway. When the teacher came and found all of us sitting in a locked classroom he just said not to even tell him how we got in.
Lpl: now we pick the lock. Deviant: now we ignore the lock
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His best one is opening a door with only a mouthful of whiskey.
@@cmotdibbler4454 A random door meant to secure a facility, mind you, not some test setup.
@@cmotdibbler4454 Only if he needs to make an after-hours bank deposit LOL
"that was way too fast, I blinked and missed it!" - My ex-wife
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She is worn out by cheating on ya
LPL gets a taste of his own medicine.
LOL, oh no you didden !!!
At first I thought you were talking about your marriage.
LPL and Deviant?
Christmas came early this year
This is the third collaboration of LPL and Deviant this week.
So did I, all over your face
@@charlieme5150 Ha! GOT EEM
It is like xams and new years all in one, I'd say. At least for me. :)
@@charlieme5150 >w
I feel like Deviant could have explained dead latches a bit better, like in his presentations.
Just to explain it to those who are curious, if you look at your door, you can probably see a cylindrical of half-cylindrical object at the latch. That is called the dead latch. Usually, when the door is closed, the dead latch is supposed to be pushed in. Then, the actual latch cannot be retracted unless the knob or handle is pulled down/up. However, a lot of door locks sell their locks with a strike plate with a hole too big, which doesn't press the dead latch down. This is what Deviant is abusing in this video.
Edit: For more information, look at Deviant explaining this at 5:42 at this video: ua-cam.com/video/rnmcRTnTNC8/v-deo.html
Yes exactly.
Perfect video link explanation, thanks! Today I learned something new.
I wasn't sure what deviant was talking about in the video, but as soon as I looked at your description I know exactly what you're talkin about now, without even clicking on the video that you linked. Thank you.
I came into office early and the door was locked and I didn't have keys, so I pried the latch open with my knife. I thought it was a design flaw with the lock, thanks to your info, I now know that every lock of that type in the building was installed incorrectly. Ouch lol. I hope it wasn't some guy who calls himself a "professional".
Hero of the comments section.
Deviant's book on Practical Lock Picking is amazing. And I'm a little jealous of a guy who gets paid to go around legally breaking into places and causing havoc.
Hahaha too true
So a Locksmith.
Atlas Dragon no he gets paid to break into places without security knowing and fuck around with their building, this includes hiding in elevators and driving the golf carts of security personal around
@@iain3713 Lol, that is an interesting job. Proffesional troll.
They are called GANGSTALKERS, it pays well. Apply at your local fusion center or police station.
It's a traveler hook because on ring spinning machines that make yarn, there is a spinning little clip called a traveler. That is the tool that is used to install them.
I'm pretty disappointed to hear that a thing in this universe can still be beaten by master locks.
Master lock made the choice to mass produce for low cost. High security, isnt their thing despite what they say. This was likely installed by the maintenance guy with no security training. He didn't know any better, so you end up with bad mistakes.
@@lefend sometimes the decision to forgo the strike plate is a cost one handed down by somebody ignorant of security.
In a business setting decisions pass through the hands of many people so the security expert's plan may have to survive a game of telephone, and he may never have even noticed what happened.
Even in a non bureaucratic failing it could be as simple as the unit ordered didn't come with it and that's when they learned why it was cheaper, security expert throws it in with this vulnerability basically hoping nobody notices until the plate comes in.
I wouldn't say that the security expert is wholly to blame.
To be fair that's because of poor instalment and not design error
@@SherrifOfNottingham True. I'm not trying to blame the security expert or the installer. The security expert has the dual role to both figure out what is best and communicate those needs to the decision maker(s), to whatever extent they can. It falls on the decision makers to choose what and how it's done. All you can do is document the recommendations and communication for if there is a problem later. As the "expert", we dont want the lack of secureness to fall back on us.
Have you watched LPL's video on the Battalion 1XRV6? ua-cam.com/video/RI5Fq16W36c/v-deo.html
Ollam: Here’s a “Traveler Hook”
Harbor Freight: Here’s a “Mini Pick and Hook set for $1.99”
So I'm not the only one that thinks it looks like the Harbor Freight model. That's where I got mine.
James Randolph yes, we are apparently the “more astute viewers” Ollam spoke of.
I have a few of those, though we call it a knitting hook, comes with knitting looms
@@SherrifOfNottingham I think mine were just called "hooks". lol
@@SherrifOfNottingham I believe when deviant first learned of them, it was from someone who got them from the garment industry, but my memory is fuzzy from his past talks.
Next video title: "Deviant Ollam, picked and gutted".
Oh dear o.o
"This vulnerability is simply inexcusable. At any rate, that's all I have for you today...'
Watches all the 3 videos: *laughs in Europe*
Yep, yet another attack 98% of locks in Europe are completely immune to. Lip on door, separate lock bolt with non-angled edges and moved by rotation of the core, not springloaded.
the remaining 2% was imported from USA.
@@sharpfang Although, in public places locks are a lot more vulnerable, usually you have to have hinges and the door must open from the inside without a key, in case of a fire. That introduces a bunch of vulnerabilities if someone doesn't think through the lock (which is a problem European lock companies aren't immune of).
@@DeeSnow97 Nearly all doors use shaped frame with multiple bends and flexible seals which makes squeezing anything through about impossible. Also lock bolts are separate from handle latches, not springloaded - you can't move them without turning the core (may be through an internal knob but you'd need to reach it, Olam demonstrated a tool that could do it if you can squeeze it through a gap, but with shaped frame that won't happen).
@@sharpfang Weather stripping is not a security device. The bends do help, but wires can sometimes defeat that.
Also, I know lock bolts are separate, but those are the deadbolts you maybe use at the end of the day. In public buildings with a whole bunch of people inside you can't have something like that, if it doesn't open with an internal handle it's a fire hazard. (And there's a reason latches are shaped like that, it's so that the door can close on its own -- again, used every time a door opens without a key from either side.)
I know our homes are different. I live in Europe too, and have the exact arrangement you described on my doors. But as far as I know, this is more of a problem with public spaces for our American friends too, they usually get screwed by fire code in most cases, which doesn't require the same practices to homes and other low-occupancy places.
Well, then the guys will have to make a followup...
"Simple, Easy, & Effective: Euro Edition" and then it would be a whole other story I bet :D
Might just be me but why does it sound like LPL keeps calling him Devient Olaf?
Because that's how you say his name. ua-cam.com/video/Tuq5xW9mdIM/v-deo.html
LPL is saying it correctly. He said it incorrectly in his Modern Rogue episodes.
Deviant's name is just like he is. A deviant.
Huh... interesting.
He's Olaf to friends.
Makes as much sense as Bosnian Bill. Guy has some weird ass names his life
Great videos. Really like the co-op with redteam, keep it up :)
My Dad always said, all a lock does is keep an honest man honest. A real thief can almost always find a way.
And then i look at the doors here in Germany where every door is double folded and think: Why do they use such crappy door at all. The Hook under the door might have worked for some doors within an apartment. But not on doors for apartments or houses.
Not even for inside doors. All have sills, none have those spaces on sides (neither hinges outside from any side). And even if there was space on the top, you cannot pull it up. If there was space on the bottom (no sill), the door handle doesn't have the dumb [ shape, just normal L, so it would slip off. And those are inside doors, not talking about front door. I am a little bit disappointed with the last episodes.
>Why do they use such crappy doors at all.
if you thought about it for ten seconds you might come up with the reason.
@@SuperAWaC So you are trying to tell me that in the America the doors are much safer as the doors in the this video? This are the doors i was talking abount.
@@Dominik_S. they can be if you want them to be. They can be worse if you want them to be. The door in the video is hilariously poorly installed.
@@SuperAWaC But thats my point. Even if i want to, i couldn't even buy a door that bad here. Even the cheapest doors (eg. 25 €) you can buy here do not have these design flaws e.g. the exposed deadbolt. The Deadbolts here are always covered from both sides. The top side has double rebate (Türfalz) as well. Therefore the trick with the Movie Film would not work. Also because we have rubber seals on the left, the right and the top.
Can't wait to see the next vid where he just takes the hinge pins out. One of my favorite tricks.
I was gonna say that but you were first. Some exposed hinges are "Knurped" with a set screw inside to secure the hinge pin, but only locksmiths know that those exist...………………………...elsullo
In most parts of Europe there is a requirement that hinges must be placed on the inside of the door..
Also most doors have also protections against crowbar attacks. Not to mention that most people have burglar alarms.
One of the most effective methods to get inside, is to just ring the doorbell and wait till someone opens the door..
@@2Fast4Mellow most of these exploits are targeted towards businesses that have safety mandates and fire codes. The under and over door attack videos only work on large businesses for those reasons because they're required to open from the inside with door handles that can be operated without grasping them. Deviant's expertise comes from penetration testing, which all businesses over a certain size (I think fortune 500???) are required to get done annually. Home security is a very different matter from most of this.
So did the most recent video satisfy you?
@@roguishpaladin it definitely did. I knew the technique, but I had no idea that tool existed. Mind. Blown.
I love how just to the left there is a door that looks immune to all the attacks shown so far
4th way is, obviously, disassembling door hinges. it's also immune to that.
You mean... a normal average door.
@@martinhenzl Yes, a door in frame that isn't installed backwards
I'm guessing that this is one of RTAs training doors. (haven't watched any of their stuff or others in this series) It's purposefully built that way to create a one stop shop of security vulnerabilities as a teaching aid.
@@olinseats4003 The fact that so many in the comments of this series of videos have this attitude of "...well, we don't have doors here like that - so that's obviously just a dumb US problem" and whatnot is absolutely mind numbing. They're exactly the people in this world that make SIMPLE attacks like these viable in so many places, completely misunderstanding the point of this video series, continuing to live their lives ignorant of their own security problems, just because "...well, my door isn't like THAT one..."
Builders or some maintenance guys do stupid stuff like that.
There always the weak link, never installing the proper equipment.
The worst door I ever seen 😁
A simple „profile“/edge in the door blade could protect against this very basic attack.
Or just having the correct strikeplate as you could still probably get around any shielding with a wire or something
Deviant would just jam down a piece of wire around it, like he'd shown in his talks
Completely missing the point of this entirely
Why is it called a Traveler Hook?
Deviant has a nice bit about door hinges and how to improve them, cause I know where hes going next
I bet you're right!
@@DeviantOllam I love the trick with the can of air and the rex sensor.
I have a question though
What if it is push type of door for entrance, would it make it any harder?
The hinges would be on the inside and there's this protrusion on the door frame that would block that creepy pointy tool to operate.
In short, like the door on the left.
I'm sure you've answered your question by now, but for posterity's sake, I'd first try something more flexible like a plastic card to loid the latch, then either try to pick the lock or an over/under door attack, depending.
The shrum tool (traveler hook) comes in 2 different sizes: standard, as shown in this video & a longer version.
Shim Barax It's a textile making tool used in the textile industry. The ones Deviant uses are from a US textile equipment company. "Traveler hook" is the tool name.
@Shim Barax look in video description. there is a link to the tool used
It's a o ring pick available at any hardware store.
@Shim Barax redteamtools.com as seen in the doobly-doo
"We did the bottom of the door"
LPL 2019
😂😂
Door is violated too much
@@niccatipay wait until tomorrow when you see that door REALLY get hammered. ;-)
@@niccatipay ua-cam.com/video/RI5Fq16W36c/v-deo.html
Therapist for a lock?
That's hot!
I once opened a locked closet door using my pocket knife. There was enough room that I could get the knife in and use the tip of it to move the latch while pulling on the door so the friction of the latch against the strike plate would stop it from popping back out
It doesn't help that he's on the insecure side of the door. Hinges go INSIDE.
Thought I was the only one that noticed he's on the wrong side of the door. Get trick if you want to break out of your house.
I have no idea why I keep watching these videos and how almost 3m people are subscribed. Odd what resonates with people for no logical reason unless all 3m folks and myself are training to be covert operatives!
Oh yeah that thing i watched the defcon talk from the guy that popularised it. It was really good.
"That was way too fast; I blinked and missed it."
Now you know how we feel, LPL!
Deviant is looking fly in these videos. I'm a little sad this miniseries is almost over.
☺️
@@DeviantOllam I'm serious, you look like you have slimmed down and bulked up. Am I imagining things?
I love these collaboration videos. They are short and clear.
how does Deviant Ollam pronounce his name ? ( hint, not as it is spelled in English )
ua-cam.com/video/Tuq5xW9mdIM/v-deo.html
Has this guy in the video been a talker at a DefCon? I KNOW I've seen this guy before.
Yes. Multiple times.
Deviant has done a ton of talks.
DEFCON (Gun Safe Failures) : ua-cam.com/video/3SVMT_zNlgA/v-deo.html
HOPE (Mastering Master Keys): ua-cam.com/video/aVPSaKLKHd4/v-deo.html
CarolinaCon (Elevator Hacks): ua-cam.com/video/EqttQ3U-w-s/v-deo.html
Shakacon (Search For The Perfect Door): ua-cam.com/video/4YYvBLAF4T8/v-deo.html
@@Kinkajou1015 *graceful bow* ;-)
My buddy used to get into the house from the garage doing this. But he grabbed a screw driver and did it. Crazy how people will work so hard to break in and not go get a job and earn it honestly
Coming up next: Just pull the hinge pins.
One of my apartments had an electronic lock that was so worn out, it was faster and easier to jimmy it. The proper way required you to insert the key all the way and jiggle it while slowly pulling it out until something connected. The fast way was to use any key as a tool to rotate the drum that the bolt latched behind. There was clearly something that was supposed to cover it, and I think it was supposed to have its own solenoid dead bolt to keep the drum from rotating.
Come on man, of course it's going to open like that when there's no strike plate in the frame! That frame should have a 4-7/8" x 1-1/4" (ANSI size) strike plate installed and usually with a prefab frame like this it's aligned properly enough to cause the deadlatch (the smaller part of the latch) to correctly cause the latch to deadlock and not be able to be opened like this.
This was a set-up solely intended to cause shock to people and I am surprised at LPL allowing this sort of rubbish on a normally very good & interesting channel.
I have to say that the door usualy opens into the room not out. So it get difficult if the door opens to the right way.
LPL or Dev alone: You're in serious trouble
LPL and Dev together: Resign now and beg for mercy for all hope is lost
I have watched a whole bunch of Deviant Ollam's videos from various conventions and seminars over the last year or so. Glad to see this collaboration series.
Also, congratulations on 1M+ subs. Well earned, sir.
ideally the door itself also extends a bit OVER the frame so you cant easily get that in. or maybe just actually LOCK the door I mean even an electronic lock should be capable of blocking the bolt.
The door extending over the frame sounds like a good idea but that doesn't change a lot. In that case you push against the upper or lower part of the door. That gives you enough space to use a similar device that has a step in it. Like these: shop.multipick.com/en/opening--locksmith-tools/opening-closed-doors/offset-doors/door-latch-pick-needles/latch-pick-needle-set-3-piece. - I've actually had to create something like this on the fly because I had left my keys in my apartment. Got a thin allen key and some pliers from a hardware store nearby and made my own latch needle in a few minutes. Unfortunately it had taken me over an hour to come up with that idea ;)
What you need is a stiff metal piece that doesn't give you any leverage to bend it out of the way to block access
Deviant plus LockPickingLawyer is like a master learning from a legend. These videos are the final steps before you to become a legend. It makes me want to cry.
Quicker than a key!
Why do I always feel like I'm going to end up on some sort of watchlist while watching your videos lol
Because it is true! We're all doomed!
@@youtubehollywoodhank lol well if I'm already on it I may as well keep watching ay its not like they can put me on it again lol
You and me both. I hope work does not check me for hooks and spring hammers!
@@youtubehollywoodhank lol and god forbid if they find a wave rake lol
Yeah, and best part of it all, LPL is probably a defense attorney! 🤣
Don't forget the hinges. Pull the pins and enter the room.
Why did you call him “deviant Olaf”
That's how you pronounce his name.
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I count TWICE ^^^^^^^^^^
I made that hook out of a large paper clip. I work in a corporate office building.
There's lots of Alarm Lock latches on 90 percent of all doors
Well this is kind of an obvious one, it looks like you could almost get your finger in that gap
Put the correct hinge plate on and it wouldn't matter because the dead latch would engage.
PUT A CAMERA UP AND SEE WHOS PICKING LOCKS
LOL
As a kid, I used to use a pocket knife to open doors with exposed latches.
As a property manager, for tool and hippa file storage, I always put a drywall screw above and below the strike bolt on the jamb and set it so it doesn't rub.
The good ole butter knife trick modernized.... I thought a hardening plate that covered that area was like ten bucks... How much is that code lock again?
madscientist No cover plate needed, just the right model of the strike plate that's usually included with the lock along with a small drawing saying exactly where it goes (usually 1/16" to 1/8" inch from the lock at the same height, buried in the doorframe so it can't be unscrewed). The higher security option is an all steel doorframe with the exact same cutouts.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 but a cover/anti-tamper plate never hurt anything, but I'm pretty sure that doorway was set up for demos
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 I like the video posted in another comment though ua-cam.com/video/rnmcRTnTNC8/v-deo.html
I've always used butterknives or even scissors
Absolutely correct, always change your strike plate to the one provided by the manufacturer and ensure the auxiliary latch is engaged so the primary latch is deadlocked.
You two are the perfect pairing for this kind of stuff. You really should consider doing more series together on occasion.
Another door installed wrong side out ...
Hey LPL I finally got my lock pick set and have found that you make it look way easier than it is!! The practice clear lock I only have to set 2 pins 6 and 1 so I got a small brinks lock and it’s kicking my butt! I’m staying at it though!
Old credit-cards also work great on a door like this.
The correct solution: use the system that once the door is closed, there's a larger latch popping in the door frame and that's not spring-loaded. Quite common on Czech appartment house entry doors. (These are called "self-locking" locks here.)
I like how there are peeps here who already know who deviant is and have watched his looking videos. What a gathering we have. What a colab!
This door is just ridiculous, who would use something like that, i never even saw a door without two different bolts one for the handle (angled) one for the lock (unangeled and only moves if the lock cylinder is turned)
That would have been more impressive on an inside opening door.
Great that you show perps how to illegally enter.
That’s what you see.
Most see valuable information to prevent it from happening.
@@jeffforker4130 What do You see? I am sure the perps are wiser now.
@@gordbaker896
The same thing I’ve seen for decades.
The doors on our house are for the safety of those on the outside.
Once you cross the threshold......
The main problem with dead latches is that most installers don't know what their purpose is or how they work. The natural assumption when you see one if you know nothing about them is that both it and the regular latch should fit into the hole on the strike plate, so they install the strike plate wrong, which defeats the dead latch.
Hey, the Carolina Roller makes its appearance.
I've seen a trick like this with a pocket knife used to push down and over then pull the door to hold its movement then repeat until the latch opens I've even seen it work on a deadbolt...
🍻cheers🥃
I am near Calgary Alberta and there is a steel door company (I won't name) that makes their doors WRONG. The pre-made fitting in the door for the latch is about 2 millimetres off centre, biased towards the inside of the door. This means the the little sliding security bolt always slides INSIDE the striker plate, making it vulnerable to this type of picking. Because whee you lock most doors, the "lock" only locks the HANDLE against turning, but the latch is spring powered and can be pushed in by hand. When the little bolt is retracted, then it also locks the actual latch to prevent it from been manually pushed in. Once I identified the problem, we had a rep from the company meet us on site where we demonstrated the problem. He kept wavering between "the customer is too fussy" and "the installers installed it wrong". Finally we got him to understand and agree that the latch position was indeed set wrong, but... the company did nothing about it.
i bet next video will be on how to remove the hinge pins and open the door that way :D
Why is lock keypad on the inside instead of the -proper-outside?!? Kinda stupid. Someone can just push out hinge pins too... oops!
With all due respect LPL, this stuff has been around for quite some time, why the sudden attention to it. Don't get me wrong, it's great stuff, but the Deviant guys been showing off their skills for a while.
I could get that lock open with just my good looks, because its so easy😁
What i use for that is a good ol' fashioned coat hanger works
The handiest thing ever invented is the wire coathanger. With strong thread or string it's a well-known UD tool, no need to buy one. Form a slot and bend to "L" shape for storefront thumb turns. Slim-jim cars and for those with shields push the button or pull the lock or latch across the car. Hammer flat and file to shape for a warded pick or lever-lifter. And can re-hang your car muffler for a quiet getaway too! Hotel security and Cops are onto all this, so don't get caught possessing or you'll get dragged in for questioning or worse.
Not sure I’ve ever seen an important door swinging outwards of the room.
Glen R I was scrolling through to find this..
You won’t see it because of this attack or next.. a hing attack
All public building entrances are required by law to swing outward in the US.
depending on the location and use interior doors (main halls etc) will swing outward as well to prevent crowd locking during an emergency.
I know that tool! 🤣👍🏻
(not talking about Deviant 🤣)
Hahaha
You also need to have competent maintenance personnel.
I've been watching all week & waiting for this issue to be addressed. That gap is so big, the inner OCD dude in me can now rest.
this is awesome you two together! the door is sad though
Next video he will pop the hinges off. Exposed hinges on security side of door.
On Outswinging exterior doors, a BETTER hardware choice is an industrial grade Panic Device. This gets the latch away from the exterior exposure altogether, and is far beefier than any lever X lever lock, meets life safety codes for high occupancy buildings, and can withstand rolling carts and other impact. An additional benefit of a good panic device, is the forgiving nature of how they lock. The pullman design latch seeks a snugly perfect fit with each closure, allows for hinge wear etc. As long as door can reliably CLOSE, the panic device will perform brilliantly. Expect a quality device with the EPLEX exterior lever operator as shown in the example video, with prox reader to sun about 3200.00-7000.00 installed, depending on options required, such as latch and door monitoring. You got to step up if you want long-term products. The good stuff are not the 69.00-700.00 panic devices you see on ebay or amazonia! Doorways should have engineered solutions, not hardware slapping. No electric strikes, no maglocks. Panic devices can work off a wall mounted prox reader, if there is a 2 door all the way up to enterprise access control system, the unlocking is done in the exit device itself, not externally.
didnt know masterlock made door shaped locks now
For lock picking or eyeball removal.....? 😬👁🩸 You can’t be too CAREFUL with a tool like this! 👍👍👍 It’s just a tweaked ice pick!
So could you say buy a ignition barrel for top end Ferrari then learn it show a friend how to then that friend go look for a Ferrari on the streets? Or to simplify start a car with out the key say you lost it
Unbelievably obvious security compromise. This isn't just lack of proper procedure, it's a lack of common sense. SMH.
I know the Americans have some very odd names, but surely nobody is actually called Deviant Ollam! If you listen carefully, LPL calls him Devian Olaf - that's more likely. Surely? Isn't it? :-)
Decades ago I always carried a Boy Scout jack knife. The can-opener blade was kind of long, and was excellent for getting behind the lock bolt of any door that opened outward and had an ordinary strike plate. Simply levering on the round headed can-opener slid the bolt easily. No, I was not a criminal...……………………………...elsullo
Door is the wrong way round. Breaking OUT is a THOUSAND times easier than breaking IN. None of the techniques shown will work on a door that has been installed the right way round, even if it was installed poorly!