No it isn't. I had a job in the restaurant industry as a prep cook some years back, then my boss suddenly added dishwasher duties to my job. That wasn't in my job description. My job was solely to prepare the ingredients necessary for the restaurant. The dishwasher duties weren't in my "wage". Between the stress of doing both things, I quit that job. That was "quiet quitting" since they got what they wanted for making me do 2 jobs for the price of a single job. There's not "acting your wage" in that. It's just abuse of power from the whoever the boss is.
@@goneshotboxedinstrumentals5336 lmao raise comes with more work. If I do good at my duties I should get a raise. I shouldn't have to do other people's jobs as well to get a raise. Do they get a pay cut when I do that?
Nothing. When I was fresh out of college, I took on more than my job description and got zero for it. Now my older, wiser self doesn’t give anyone freebies. I do the job that’s required of me. No more, no less. And if they want more, they have pay me more to get it.
I don't see anything wrong with quiet quitting. In fact it's not even 'quitting'. Do just what you're paid for and that's the right thing to do. If employers want more, then show me the money, *itches.
its not quiet quitting if you work 8 hours a day. Quiet quitting is like working 4-6 hours a day. People need to stop romanticizing 10-12 hour work days.
The problem with "quiet quitting" is that it misuses the word "quitting." What people are describing is refusing to work outside of their classification and only fulfilling their job requirements. It has nothing to do with quitting or refusing to do the job they were hired for. The name grabs attention, but is incorrect and misleading.
That’s why job descriptions always say “and other duties as assigned” that way there is no cap to fulfilling. Anything could be “part of your job” as long as that’s what you are agreeing to do when you apply. I actually have that line removed before I sign or agree to anything. Something that vague is setting you up later down the road when you refuse additional workload.
so lets summarize. "Quite Quitting" is employees doing their job as they were hired to do it. "quite quitting" is what most of the other developed countries encourage workers to do since it improves productivity and mental health. Meanwhile "quite firing" is just a boss being an A-hole and a jerk to someone so they quit because they cant legally fire them. One is essential to a productive happy society and the other one is usually breaking labor laws it's just unprovable from a case by case base.
Always remember your employer knows how much they pay you, and even if they violate your rights or labor laws they know you cant afford a lawyer to sue them. And they are not going to give you the time off during the week to go to the Department of Labor.
Ah yes. It's an at will contract until it's the employer who wants to express their will. How about, they can fire you if they want, how they want, especially I'd they think you're a malingerer
This is why I was concerned with the brandin'- "quiet quitting" is bein' met with "quiet firing" or vice versa. Never mention you're quittin' or a quitter 2 employers- jus tell 'em 2 not expect u 2 work overtime 4 free with the advice of a lawyer- respect ur labor rights. Otherwise keep on lookin' 4 a place that values employees.
"Doing less than an honest day of work for an honest day of pay" What?! That's what you're getting paid for. Doing more than the position is asked for is not an obligation it's an option. Unless you give incentives, there shouldn't be an expectation of your employees to do extra. Only reason I do extra is to make everyone's job easier and finish up quicker
All my bosses have always wanted more from me than the job description entailed. And because of the pandemic, people have had time to ponder options. We can barely get by and make rent yet are expected to do the job of two people while the boss goes on holidays to Europe and buys a new rental property.
@@MICLOFFICIALUA-cam Problem is, employers have always squeeze every ounce of blood an employee can offer. If they think 2 employees can do they work, they will fire the 3rd.
@@ellvtv2314 Thats fine normally, but when its harassment like this its unpleasant to go through. I dont get why people cant be up front, especially as higher ups theyre so akwardly non confrontational. And the lady in this video has bad advice to acquiesce and find another hopeless job. People need to start their own things and gain skills to be their own boss.
Quiet firing is what nearly every employer has been doing for the past 30 yrs. They pay you what they absolutely have to and not a penny more. They give you the least amount of a raise as they can possibly get away with or no raise or promotion at all if they don’t have to. They give you the least amount of training, time off, benefits as they can until you finally quit in order to get the pay increase you deserve and the benefits that come from the extra work. I’ve known so many employers that try to pay almost minimum wage for an employee that has a college degree and years of experience then complain that “workers don’t want to work”. Employers don’t want to pay for the work. That’s the actual real problem. I guarantee you if you post a job with a bit above good pay and great benefit, you’ll fill every single position before the end of the week. The issue is the employers want everything but pay nothing for it. Gee I wonder why they can’t fill all those low paying positions that require you to give up your life so they can buy that extra vacation home while expecting you to just live out of your car across the street from your job so you’re always available to them.
I could not have said it any better. I hate when people say, “They’re just being lazy.” When the real lazy people are the CEO’s and owners who take in all the profit. It’d be a different story if wages haven’t been stagnant and pay increased with productivity, but it doesn’t. Managers are given bonuses based on labor percentage so they’re incentivized to keep their workers low paid. I myself have put in more hours than I should for a company and wasn’t paid what I should have been. Worked on average over 70 hours a week for a good time period for the same employer, but since he had his business under separate LLC’s, he avoided paying me overtime. Then there’s non-compete agreements in fields of work that there are not many options should you lose employment. The balance of power is too much in favor of the employer.
@@doisenwadzinski6171 the gap between CEO and average employee used to be 30%. It’s 300% now. They claim increasing minimum wage to (a still unlivable wage) will cause them to let go of employees or lose their business. Lies. It just means the gap will go down to a 280% gap and that’s what they’re really crying about. Greedy AF.
Yup. I used truly believe that there were a lot of lazy employees out there, but after 10 years of doing my trade and especially after witnessing the last 3 years of idiocracy on every level of society, I now understand they don't want skilled, or even hard workers, they just want slavery. The days of working your way to the top are gone. If you want the raise you deserve after getting so much experience and doing everything you can to save a company money, then you have to go to another company; sad reality. What bites me is how disconnected third party recruiters or companies are today. they really look at you sideways for having different employers on your resume " you seem to be doing a lot of jumping around??" I have to bite my tongue from saying " Yea, when's the last time you were supposed to get a raise?? Because that's how many times YOU were GOING to have to "jump" as well ". Spent the last 10 years almost never seeing the sun from so many overtime hours and personal training hours to get better pay (just to afford living in this idiocratic state) and all of that to just get shoveled back down by burger flippers making $19-$20/hr; FUBAR.
There's nothing wrong with quiet quitting , if anything it helps weed out the apathetic workers and makes it easier to know who to quiet fire during hard times. this kind of transparency should be encouraged since it ultimately helps the employer to know who to promote and who to let go.
And Quiet quitting is not ? Haha y’all lazy AF I go above and beyond for the construction company I work for . I do get rewarded and raises without even asking .
People wouldn't need to quiet quit if wages actually kept up with the cost of living. Nobody wants to be a slave. Everybody should be doing this to send a message to our corporate slave masters.
I can't wait for the employer who fires an employee for doing the job they were hired for. Them telling edd "well I fired him for quiet quitting" "im sorry he quit or was fired?" "Fired for quiet quitting" "okay whats that?" "They only did the job I hired them for." " so you fired them for doing the job you hired them to do correct?" "Correct" "okay hold on while I get the DOL prosecutors on the other line"
Yep. Highly illegal. You cannot be penalized for not doing more then you are hired to do. I was at a job and was still young when a coworker of mine got pregnant and when she came back was not going to do a bunch of extra stuff that kept her without getting paid bc she wanted more time with her baby. The company fired her and she sued them and got big paid. I mean she hadn't work for years. The reason she won was she did everything they hired her to do and within the 8 hours alloted. So it was a performance issue rather a not doing extra. Cost them big time. I should've done sued but was young and dumb. Smdh
My job has mandated us 7 days per week 12 hours per day. I think I'm gonna embrace this quiet quitting thing and take back control of my life. Work to live, not live to work.
I went above and beyond for the last company I worked for you know what that got me it got me on a job site one day and I told the boss/owner hey this isn't safe we need to do x y and z to make it safe his exact words were do what the f*** you're told or go the f*** home I needed a check I got to eat I got bills to pay I stayed I did what I was told I lost a foot and now workers comp is fighting me to even give me disability for the rest of my life saying I should be able to return to some kind of job you took my f****** foot which in turn has f***** up my my walking gate which is in turn messed up my back messed up my other leg foot and ankle all I could give advice to younger people is if you're working for yourself you're going to have to give your all if someone's paying you to give your all give your all and when I say paying you I mean if normal construction labor is about 15 to $20 an hour right now someone needs to be paying you $60 to $100 an hour to give a f***do not worry about anything other than showing up on time and getting paid until you are back at your vehicle to go home
@@techtutorvideos when I tried to tell insurance and my own personal attorney which I fired the first one and got a second one and got the same answer that this only happened because of the call he made I was told in California we have stopped work authority and I had the responsibility to keep myself safe and if I knew it was unsafe I should have shut down the job so therefore I'm at fault and that ignorance of the law is not against the law so the fact he was ignorant to safety is not against the law because it had no malice and that I would have to prove that his intention was to cause the accident on purpose to purposely hurt me and no one else so if a boss were to cause an accident to hurt person A but ended up hurting person B they cannot get in trouble the only way an employer can get in trouble in the state of California is if it was intentional and that the person that the injury was intended to affect was actually the one that got hurt I've had several legal professionals tell me that this is only been a problem in California since 2005 when Arnold Schwarzenegger allowed the insurance companies to rewrite their own policies on workers comp so that piece of s*** Terminator governator name Arnold Schwarzenegger needs to die for crimes against humanity
How about " quiet ignoring job applicants " ? I've had HR / Hiring departments ignore applications and even say " Can you come in for an interview tomorrow? We really need to fill the position " then vanish , not respond to e mails , take the posting down after 2 weeks and finally respond to repeated e mails a month later saying that the position was filled.
I got “quiet layed off” after 43 years of service cause….Covid. I think it was quite ageism” since they hired people back on contract for much less in benefits and wages👍😳
Honestly I think I was part of quiet quitting, my employer wanted to suspended me besided me doing my job right going and going above and beyond for patients, so I decided to quit. Keep in mind evey temp I trained got paid more than I did, I felt taken advantage of. I was getting suspended for arriving late , yet always had to overtime, and my OT not getting paid accurately.
My retail warehouse job gave me a raise in March, then "accidentally" transfered me to Texas (I live in N.C.) then terminated me in September (the day after I bought a German car nicer than my boss' Mercedes). I missed a paycheck because of this and while it was all being worked out, we found out they never put my raise in the system. They eventually cut me a check for that back pay, but since then I've been written up twice and given double the work load, to the point I can't possibly complete all the tasks. They'll probably fire me tomorrow but at this point I don't care. Just come out and tell me to leave, don't quiet fire me.
I know what you mean man, they don't have the balls they are supposed to have in their personal life, so they aint going to have it in their professional life either. Hope something else worked out for man.
My coworkers and I have been going above and beyond for the last decade specially during the pandemic and what did we get? A thank you but not a merit increase. They also did not replace people who quit and have been short handed for quite a while and they expects us to take care of excess work. Is that even fair?
Quiet quitting and quiet firing sound like two entirely different things. Quiet quitting sounds like just doing your job and not giving your employer stuff they don't deserve. All your employer deserves is what they've paid for. Quiet firing sounds like the complete opposite where your employer is not doing their job and not giving you what they owe you.
If your employer/supervisor/manager or coworkers ever, ever call, text or email you about anything when you are not on the clock and not getting paid for it, it is not about work ... it is a booty call ... and you are the booty. Contact HR ... and your lawyer/attorney/EEOC representative.
I did the above and beyond thing for years with no promotion or even a freaking thank you so I stopped. When I did I was put on a paid 3 day suspension that has now turned into 2 1/2 weeks because I said no I will not do any more than my job description. I'm seriously just waiting for the phone call that I'm fired. I don't actually care anymore. I will not be harassed and bullied to do a task that I'm not trained for or is not in my job description.
I am in my mid-50'sand I see this has become a self fulfilling prophecy for the modern economy. Companies have significantly reduced pension contributions, while at the same time the average family costs (health and child care, further education, running a home including mortgage) has gone up considerably. If you look at the baby boomer generation, they had the financial means to retire at 60. That is less likely for Gen X'ers and definitely unlikely for millenials. This means a person in their late 50's or 60's, will have reach their peak on the career ladder (no incentive to impress their boss to get the next promotion) and will pretty much be there for the paycheck. What is their incentive to work harder than necessary?
Nonsense. Working to rule/quiet quitting = doing your job. Thats it. Employers are scared and the media is, too. You can tell with these latest 'quiet firing' videos.
Quiet quitting is you not providing free work, while quiet firing is an employer getting free work. Something seems very asymmetrical about that terminology.
When I got hired by a local government agency they told us that as long as we gave a maximum of 60% effort we were cool 😎. After 20 years of employment I realized it was really was less because there’s some shiftless folks at my job lol. My job also told us to never expect “above satisfactory “ on our year evaluations, which I now understand why.
Aaaaaaaand that's why I quit working for the State University system. After hearing every one (even the 20 year + veterans) say how they were never getting "above satisfactory, I knew then an there that it was not the job for me; idgara about CALpers or pensions or an of that crap, I can't pay rent with some benefits!
So doing what you're hired for is enough to get you fired. Apparently such businesses can't actually turn a profit without having to resort to making people donate some of their time for free.
Quiet firing is illegal!!!!!!!!! Quiet quitting is just doing your job! You see this is a big big difference, one it is illegal, and another is just fair!!
So what’s the difference between “quiet quitting” and having “life work balance”? Seems they both have the same definition behind it with maybe the only exception is one falls under lower paying positions (the Office assistant) and the other is under higher paying positions (their supervisors).
Has quiet firing been here before the pandemic? In the film Office Space, the character Milton is ignored constantly throughout the movie only to find out that he had been fired a long time ago. If quiet firing has been here a long time, this is not news.
If you feel you are being quiet fired: UNIONISE! With a union employers can't treat you differently if work condition are in the collective convention.
At my work,, part time instructors are not asked to teach any classes.. I've worked a 2nd job at gamestop, they wouldn't give hours to ppl they didn't want working there anymore. Also, at my main job, if you are found to be moonlighting you will be fired. Side hustles are not a concern, ppl literally being employed as a full time teacher at another school are not ok. Covid and work from home is a newly abundant enabler but this practice is not new.
There a volume Nov for this? I thought it was insubordination…….learn something everyday! Corporate America doesn’t deserve your life! Work to achieve your goals!
Refreshing to hear anchors say the truth for humanity and not lifeless corporations. QQ is doing your job; if they want more then pay more and don’t complain about it. End of debate.
Fine... quiet quit... do the bare minimum. But I'm paying by the hour, not by the minute... better not catch you on your phone. Bathroom breaks are at EXACTLY 10am 12am & 3pm. You get only the amount of sick days legally allotted and you only get the vacation days you've earned. Does this sound like the kind of work environment everybody wants?
Quiet Quitting and massive Homelessness are modern-day concepts. Um, I just wonder how these workers will cope when they get ready to retire and discover that their social security payment is....um, non-existent or ridiculously low. (assuming that social security still exists into the future)!
Not really news- plenty of passive-aggressive animosity from employers n even fellow coworkers. Why is it so hard 2 find an overall decent workplace? smh
Having goals in a place where you don't matter is a real challenge and contributes to depression. Especially if you have been there almost 30 years. They let you work for them for that long while getting high performer for years. Suddenly your a Ghost. All this, with almost no interaction from your boss. Huge company's aren't enjoyable to work for. Good Luck to All.
Milton was not a good example. He was actually fired, and they just kept paying him, and since he didn't know he was fired, he kept working. Then they stopped paying him when they realized their mistake. He was working for free since he didn't know he was fired and no longer getting paid. My last job tried to quiet fire me. I stayed longer than I was supposed to, and they were paying out the nose for the benefits Id earned. When they couldn't scare me off, they fired me for real, and I collected tens of thousands in unemployment wages. My former supervisor as well as those responsible in human resources were subsequently fired, and I now have a job that pays 3 times more.
@@momoneyinvesting don't expect to do your private business on my time and dime. You are paid to work, not text your friends, family, etc. Prove to me you want the job and deserve bonuses and raises. There is alot of bosses out there that don't like free loaders.
@@anitakristensen4679 and there are a lot of workers who don't like being exploited. if you think people will go the extra mile for you without any incentive you're sorely mistaken. aside from doing only what is required no one gives two 💩s about making your business more money, people care about paying their bills and their life outside of work. lose the entitlement
@@momoneyinvesting workers like you need to lose the entitlement. Think of it this way. You go to buy a 6 pack of beer, you pay for the 6 pack. But you only get to take 4 cans or bottles of the 6 pack. I bet You would be mad and would want the full 6 pack.
What do you mean I have to work here 30 years to get to the top. Why ain't I making more mommy and daddy told me I was so great. The here is your trophy for participating crowd in the work place.
Relabel “doing your job” to quiet quitting now? Where going to hire you to do a job, then say you’re quiet quitting when you don’t do more with out higher pay.
New terms for a common practice. But a good answer to what the employers should consider. Missed the mark on employees. Quiet quitters should ask themselves - am I acting ethically.
Bruh, if im told to do something outside of my job description, and i get injured? That's outside of my job. I was doing something that im not assigned to do. I'll stack my pallets and boxes, i get injured from a box or pallet hitting or landing on me? Company will cover my injury expenses, cause I was doing what was my actual job yet i get hurt. If im told for some reason to get up on the ladder and clean dust off the piping on the warehouse rafters? And I get injured from falling off the ladder? Well im not supposed to do that soo... yea the company wont support cause I was doing something outside of my scope.
For the first time in my LIFE of seven decades I'm spending half an hour for every hour I'm PAID in doing reports, researching costs, and on the phone as my Board is out of province. It's really weird.But I have the time, FOR NOW. My "issue" is one co-worker thinks he's my boss and "volunteers" me for all kinds of non-work tasks, AND interruptions costing TIME. Work today has gone really strange: in other news, first timers with zero experience think they're 'worth" fifty buck an hour. As Raquel Welch said five decades ago: You should be paid what you EARN, not what you think you're "worth".
@That Tunisian Crochet Life salary professional position is not a union hourly position with rigid work specification. the quiet quitting is a signal that the person will do only the bare minimum, even if that is not the intent for every person. if you want to telework and make the most of your time at home outside of work, that’s fine, and that’s the signal you are sending, you want clear boundaries, and don’t want those boundaries violated. I’d be careful, because teleworking allows employers to draw from a much larger pool of talent, and if you don’t want me to ask anything extra of you, don’t worry, i won’t. employers also have more options now. and don’t expect raise or bonus- those are only for closers.
@@CJinsoo I think you're confused. Quiet quitting refers to those who do their work, but don't do anything else unless they're compensated in some way.
people asking about this are clueless. these are just ongoing problems. it is very costly and contentious to formally fire someone without an express due cause. much easier to quiet fire. if you don’t want to work, get a job with the government.
In Russia they have the term "Italian strike" which is essentially the English "work-to-role" concept. You do only the things stated in your job description. Which is usually nebulous and not strictly defined.
The thing about this I just realized is that I wasn't the only one going though this and I always felt like a lover at work meanwhile the folks pushing quiet quitting were all RELATED sons, daughters, husbands so essentially they obviously did not do these things to them , it was the City of San Diego library department
I dealt with 'quite firing' by ordering office supplies and taking them home. I was a one man department and buying supplies was one thing I did. My position was such that everybody in the office could give me tasks but there was nobody to help me, nobody to ask for help. I wanted to show one guy how to send a fax and he said 'nope, if I know how other people will tell me to do it' I'm still using pens and stickies and such I ordered for myself. ''Another day at work another free pack of pens'' Homer Simpson.
It has far too long been in the favor of the companies wherein we are asked to do the jobs of two people and even more. All while our bonuses (if at all?) are shrinking, healthcare benefits shrinking, and we no longer have pensions while Chief Officers enjoy all of the money that should be shared with employees for a stronger community and sense of ownership. Pizza on Fridays is horseshit!
It's not quiet quitting, it's acting your wage!
Don’t ask for a raise then
@@goneshotboxedinstrumentals5336 it’s not like anyone wants to anyways, stop expecting more without paying more
No it isn't. I had a job in the restaurant industry as a prep cook some years back, then my boss suddenly added dishwasher duties to my job. That wasn't in my job description. My job was solely to prepare the ingredients necessary for the restaurant. The dishwasher duties weren't in my "wage". Between the stress of doing both things, I quit that job. That was "quiet quitting" since they got what they wanted for making me do 2 jobs for the price of a single job. There's not "acting your wage" in that. It's just abuse of power from the whoever the boss is.
@@goneshotboxedinstrumentals5336 lmao raise comes with more work. If I do good at my duties I should get a raise. I shouldn't have to do other people's jobs as well to get a raise. Do they get a pay cut when I do that?
@@cnssegura you were quiet fired, you didn't quiet quit. It's the other way around
What’s wrong with just doing the job, no more and certainly not less?
Relablel these "old systems" and put the blame on the employees, anyone who has worked, obviously know the truth in working in these places
Isn’t this the definition of quiet quitting?
Nothing. When I was fresh out of college, I took on more than my job description and got zero for it. Now my older, wiser self doesn’t give anyone freebies. I do the job that’s required of me. No more, no less. And if they want more, they have pay me more to get it.
I don't see anything wrong with quiet quitting. In fact it's not even 'quitting'. Do just what you're paid for and that's the right thing to do. If employers want more, then show me the money, *itches.
its not quiet quitting if you work 8 hours a day. Quiet quitting is like working 4-6 hours a day. People need to stop romanticizing 10-12 hour work days.
The problem with "quiet quitting" is that it misuses the word "quitting." What people are describing is refusing to work outside of their classification and only fulfilling their job requirements. It has nothing to do with quitting or refusing to do the job they were hired for. The name grabs attention, but is incorrect and misleading.
Subversive media at its finest
Its corporate propaganda
Exactly! Thank you!! Someone gets it!
That’s why job descriptions always say “and other duties as assigned” that way there is no cap to fulfilling. Anything could be “part of your job” as long as that’s what you are agreeing to do when you apply. I actually have that line removed before I sign or agree to anything. Something that vague is setting you up later down the road when you refuse additional workload.
so lets summarize. "Quite Quitting" is employees doing their job as they were hired to do it. "quite quitting" is what most of the other developed countries encourage workers to do since it improves productivity and mental health. Meanwhile "quite firing" is just a boss being an A-hole and a jerk to someone so they quit because they cant legally fire them. One is essential to a productive happy society and the other one is usually breaking labor laws it's just unprovable from a case by case base.
Always remember your employer knows how much they pay you, and even if they violate your rights or labor laws they know you cant afford a lawyer to sue them. And they are not going to give you the time off during the week to go to the Department of Labor.
Sounds like laziness and weak minded social justice. These are the usual weak bunch we often see. They want to do less work but demanding more pay.
@@socaldreamer3394 the above and beyond is only small percentage. Theyre talking about the ones who do less but want more recognition.
Ah yes. It's an at will contract until it's the employer who wants to express their will. How about, they can fire you if they want, how they want, especially I'd they think you're a malingerer
This is why I was concerned with the brandin'- "quiet quitting" is bein' met with "quiet firing" or vice versa. Never mention you're quittin' or a quitter 2 employers- jus tell 'em 2 not expect u 2 work overtime 4 free with the advice of a lawyer- respect ur labor rights. Otherwise keep on lookin' 4 a place that values employees.
"Doing less than an honest day of work for an honest day of pay" What?! That's what you're getting paid for. Doing more than the position is asked for is not an obligation it's an option. Unless you give incentives, there shouldn't be an expectation of your employees to do extra. Only reason I do extra is to make everyone's job easier and finish up quicker
All my bosses have always wanted more from me than the job description entailed. And because of the pandemic, people have had time to ponder options. We can barely get by and make rent yet are expected to do the job of two people while the boss goes on holidays to Europe and buys a new rental property.
🤔 IMAGINE!
Work till you drop so your boss can get rich.
Don't work more than you get paid 😂😂
Problem is minimum wage goes up and now theres 2 people expected to do what 3 people were doing.
@@MICLOFFICIALUA-cam Problem is, employers have always squeeze every ounce of blood an employee can offer. If they think 2 employees can do they work, they will fire the 3rd.
@@ellvtv2314 Thats fine normally, but when its harassment like this its unpleasant to go through. I dont get why people cant be up front, especially as higher ups theyre so akwardly non confrontational. And the lady in this video has bad advice to acquiesce and find another hopeless job. People need to start their own things and gain skills to be their own boss.
Quiet firing is what nearly every employer has been doing for the past 30 yrs. They pay you what they absolutely have to and not a penny more. They give you the least amount of a raise as they can possibly get away with or no raise or promotion at all if they don’t have to. They give you the least amount of training, time off, benefits as they can until you finally quit in order to get the pay increase you deserve and the benefits that come from the extra work. I’ve known so many employers that try to pay almost minimum wage for an employee that has a college degree and years of experience then complain that “workers don’t want to work”. Employers don’t want to pay for the work. That’s the actual real problem. I guarantee you if you post a job with a bit above good pay and great benefit, you’ll fill every single position before the end of the week. The issue is the employers want everything but pay nothing for it. Gee I wonder why they can’t fill all those low paying positions that require you to give up your life so they can buy that extra vacation home while expecting you to just live out of your car across the street from your job so you’re always available to them.
I could not have said it any better.
I hate when people say, “They’re just being lazy.” When the real lazy people are the CEO’s and owners who take in all the profit. It’d be a different story if wages haven’t been stagnant and pay increased with productivity, but it doesn’t. Managers are given bonuses based on labor percentage so they’re incentivized to keep their workers low paid.
I myself have put in more hours than I should for a company and wasn’t paid what I should have been. Worked on average over 70 hours a week for a good time period for the same employer, but since he had his business under separate LLC’s, he avoided paying me overtime.
Then there’s non-compete agreements in fields of work that there are not many options should you lose employment.
The balance of power is too much in favor of the employer.
@@doisenwadzinski6171 the gap between CEO and average employee used to be 30%. It’s 300% now. They claim increasing minimum wage to (a still unlivable wage) will cause them to let go of employees or lose their business. Lies. It just means the gap will go down to a 280% gap and that’s what they’re really crying about. Greedy AF.
Yup. I used truly believe that there were a lot of lazy employees out there, but after 10 years of doing my trade and especially after witnessing the last 3 years of idiocracy on every level of society, I now understand they don't want skilled, or even hard workers, they just want slavery.
The days of working your way to the top are gone. If you want the raise you deserve after getting so much experience and doing everything you can to save a company money, then you have to go to another company; sad reality.
What bites me is how disconnected third party recruiters or companies are today. they really look at you sideways for having different employers on your resume " you seem to be doing a lot of jumping around??" I have to bite my tongue from saying " Yea, when's the last time you were supposed to get a raise?? Because that's how many times YOU were GOING to have to "jump" as well ".
Spent the last 10 years almost never seeing the sun from so many overtime hours and personal training hours to get better pay (just to afford living in this idiocratic state) and all of that to just get shoveled back down by burger flippers making $19-$20/hr; FUBAR.
They never like when the slaves up rise.
Quite firing is the reason people doing quite quitting. We learn from the best
Can you really not spell quiet?🤣
@@24james I guess spellcheck is quiet quitting.
The other way around is true. Its a chicken and egg thing.
There's nothing wrong with quiet quitting , if anything it helps weed out the apathetic workers and makes it easier to know who to quiet fire during hard times. this kind of transparency should be encouraged since it ultimately helps the employer to know who to promote and who to let go.
you can eliminate the vast majority of mismanagement and in most cases improve your workers' performance and quality.
What about quiet farting?
this is why the U.S. needs a revolution. Other countries get so much time off
Quite firing sounds lame and just flat out narcissistic in nature.
*Quiet
And Quiet quitting is not ? Haha y’all lazy AF I go above and beyond for the construction company I work for . I do get rewarded and raises without even asking .
@@January. thanks
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Work for what you get paid for as it should be.
People wouldn't need to quiet quit if wages actually kept up with the cost of living. Nobody wants to be a slave. Everybody should be doing this to send a message to our corporate slave masters.
I can't wait for the employer who fires an employee for doing the job they were hired for. Them telling edd "well I fired him for quiet quitting" "im sorry he quit or was fired?" "Fired for quiet quitting" "okay whats that?" "They only did the job I hired them for." " so you fired them for doing the job you hired them to do correct?" "Correct" "okay hold on while I get the DOL prosecutors on the other line"
Yep. Highly illegal. You cannot be penalized for not doing more then you are hired to do. I was at a job and was still young when a coworker of mine got pregnant and when she came back was not going to do a bunch of extra stuff that kept her without getting paid bc she wanted more time with her baby. The company fired her and she sued them and got big paid. I mean she hadn't work for years. The reason she won was she did everything they hired her to do and within the 8 hours alloted. So it was a performance issue rather a not doing extra. Cost them big time. I should've done sued but was young and dumb. Smdh
Me: you pay me enough to do the job, not enough for me to pretend to enjoy it! 😁
Bring back hb1 visas. Foreigners will gladly take your ungrateful american jobs.
Perfect answer! If americans will not accept third world working conditions just hire some one from the third world!
My job has mandated us 7 days per week 12 hours per day. I think I'm gonna embrace this quiet quitting thing and take back control of my life. Work to live, not live to work.
I went above and beyond for the last company I worked for you know what that got me it got me on a job site one day and I told the boss/owner hey this isn't safe we need to do x y and z to make it safe his exact words were do what the f*** you're told or go the f*** home I needed a check I got to eat I got bills to pay I stayed I did what I was told I lost a foot and now workers comp is fighting me to even give me disability for the rest of my life saying I should be able to return to some kind of job you took my f****** foot which in turn has f***** up my my walking gate which is in turn messed up my back messed up my other leg foot and ankle all I could give advice to younger people is if you're working for yourself you're going to have to give your all if someone's paying you to give your all give your all and when I say paying you I mean if normal construction labor is about 15 to $20 an hour right now someone needs to be paying you $60 to $100 an hour to give a f***do not worry about anything other than showing up on time and getting paid until you are back at your vehicle to go home
@@techtutorvideos when I tried to tell insurance and my own personal attorney which I fired the first one and got a second one and got the same answer that this only happened because of the call he made I was told in California we have stopped work authority and I had the responsibility to keep myself safe and if I knew it was unsafe I should have shut down the job so therefore I'm at fault and that ignorance of the law is not against the law so the fact he was ignorant to safety is not against the law because it had no malice and that I would have to prove that his intention was to cause the accident on purpose to purposely hurt me and no one else so if a boss were to cause an accident to hurt person A but ended up hurting person B they cannot get in trouble the only way an employer can get in trouble in the state of California is if it was intentional and that the person that the injury was intended to affect was actually the one that got hurt I've had several legal professionals tell me that this is only been a problem in California since 2005 when Arnold Schwarzenegger allowed the insurance companies to rewrite their own policies on workers comp so that piece of s*** Terminator governator name Arnold Schwarzenegger needs to die for crimes against humanity
Thats terrible, sorry to hear. Glad people are starting to wake up to this nonsense and pushing back against these a holes
If the money don’t match the job, what do people expect lol.
How about " quiet ignoring job applicants " ?
I've had HR / Hiring departments ignore applications and even say " Can you come in for an interview tomorrow? We really need to fill the position " then vanish , not respond to e mails , take the posting down after 2 weeks and finally respond to repeated e mails a month later saying that the position was filled.
I got “quiet layed off” after 43 years of service cause….Covid. I think it was quite ageism” since they hired people back on contract for much less in benefits and wages👍😳
Quiet quitting to them is "I will not be exploited" to us.
Honestly I think I was part of quiet quitting, my employer wanted to suspended me besided me doing my job right going and going above and beyond for patients, so I decided to quit. Keep in mind evey temp I trained got paid more than I did, I felt taken advantage of. I was getting suspended for arriving late , yet always had to overtime, and my OT not getting paid accurately.
I went through that too. I was training ppl and all these new hires were getting paid more that me.
@@AA123TD no , dental front desk
@@JOHNPT10 it sucks , bcs I can't even get unemployment bcs I quit , but I felt force to you know
My retail warehouse job gave me a raise in March, then "accidentally" transfered me to Texas (I live in N.C.) then terminated me in September (the day after I bought a German car nicer than my boss' Mercedes). I missed a paycheck because of this and while it was all being worked out, we found out they never put my raise in the system. They eventually cut me a check for that back pay, but since then I've been written up twice and given double the work load, to the point I can't possibly complete all the tasks. They'll probably fire me tomorrow but at this point I don't care. Just come out and tell me to leave, don't quiet fire me.
I know what you mean man, they don't have the balls they are supposed to have in their personal life, so they aint going to have it in their professional life either. Hope something else worked out for man.
My coworkers and I have been going above and beyond for the last decade specially during the pandemic and what did we get? A thank you but not a merit increase. They also did not replace people who quit and have been short handed for quite a while and they expects us to take care of excess work. Is that even fair?
When you get zero merit based raises or perks it’s not worth it. New hires getting paid more etc.
Seniority staff is not taken care of
@@PhatAssObese so true. It’s a struggle.
Quiet quitting and quiet firing sound like two entirely different things. Quiet quitting sounds like just doing your job and not giving your employer stuff they don't deserve. All your employer deserves is what they've paid for. Quiet firing sounds like the complete opposite where your employer is not doing their job and not giving you what they owe you.
If your employer/supervisor/manager or coworkers ever, ever call, text or email you about anything when you are not on the clock and not getting paid for it, it is not about work ... it is a booty call ... and you are the booty. Contact HR ... and your lawyer/attorney/EEOC representative.
lol, you ain't that hot. Get a grip.
I did the above and beyond thing for years with no promotion or even a freaking thank you so I stopped. When I did I was put on a paid 3 day suspension that has now turned into 2 1/2 weeks because I said no I will not do any more than my job description. I'm seriously just waiting for the phone call that I'm fired. I don't actually care anymore. I will not be harassed and bullied to do a task that I'm not trained for or is not in my job description.
I am in my mid-50'sand I see this has become a self fulfilling prophecy for the modern economy. Companies have significantly reduced pension contributions, while at the same time the average family costs (health and child care, further education, running a home including mortgage) has gone up considerably. If you look at the baby boomer generation, they had the financial means to retire at 60. That is less likely for Gen X'ers and definitely unlikely for millenials. This means a person in their late 50's or 60's, will have reach their peak on the career ladder (no incentive to impress their boss to get the next promotion) and will pretty much be there for the paycheck. What is their incentive to work harder than necessary?
Nonsense. Working to rule/quiet quitting = doing your job. Thats it. Employers are scared and the media is, too. You can tell with these latest 'quiet firing' videos.
Quiet quitting is you not providing free work, while quiet firing is an employer getting free work. Something seems very asymmetrical about that terminology.
When I got hired by a local government agency they told us that as long as we gave a maximum of 60% effort we were cool 😎. After 20 years of employment I realized it was really was less because there’s some shiftless folks at my job lol. My job also told us to never expect “above satisfactory “ on our year evaluations, which I now understand why.
Aaaaaaaand that's why I quit working for the State University system. After hearing every one (even the 20 year + veterans) say how they were never getting "above satisfactory, I knew then an there that it was not the job for me; idgara about CALpers or pensions or an of that crap, I can't pay rent with some benefits!
FedEx Corporation... You guys should investigate the way they treat their employees racist and favoritism.
I think it’s more like favoritism
The corporate heads are just mad that denny Hamlin' cant deliver a championship and take it out on the people that really deliver 🤣🤣
So doing what you're hired for is enough to get you fired. Apparently such businesses can't actually turn a profit without having to resort to making people donate some of their time for free.
Quiet firing is illegal!!!!!!!!!
Quiet quitting is just doing your job!
You see this is a big big difference, one it is illegal, and another is just fair!!
why stay with a company if you can't move up or get promoted? the bosses are horrible-no qualifications, no degrees
Nothing wrong with not being treated like a slave.
Employees do not mind take away benefits they"d provided decades before.
Must be a slow news day.
So what’s the difference between “quiet quitting” and having “life work balance”?
Seems they both have the same definition behind it with maybe the only exception is one falls under lower paying positions (the Office assistant) and the other is under higher paying positions (their supervisors).
Quiet quitting exist because of quiet firing. Quiet firing just didn't have a name before.
Employee above and beyond should be met with recognition in compensation and workplace.
Especially tradesmen, not appreciated enough.
Good luck finding work in the next few months, we headed into a recession.
Has quiet firing been here before the pandemic? In the film Office Space, the character Milton is ignored constantly throughout the movie only to find out that he had been fired a long time ago. If quiet firing has been here a long time, this is not news.
It was just a glitch. And the Bob’s “fixed the glitch”
@@AHeinermann yup, or they jus cut your hours so you end up quitting.
When I went above and beyond in the past all I was given was a pat in the back and more work. Ever since I just do what is asked and nothing more.
So quiet firing is basically just normal job? 😂
If you feel you are being quiet fired: UNIONISE! With a union employers can't treat you differently if work condition are in the collective convention.
Quiet quitting = Union workers
Not a new concept.
Queit firing? You mean normal employment?
Queit quitting? You mean working according to pay.
See for me it's like this I'll bust 110% on the hours that I do work anything after that or before that it's my private time.
This concept comes from getting or not having to paying out unemployment.
At my work,, part time instructors are not asked to teach any classes.. I've worked a 2nd job at gamestop, they wouldn't give hours to ppl they didn't want working there anymore.
Also, at my main job, if you are found to be moonlighting you will be fired. Side hustles are not a concern, ppl literally being employed as a full time teacher at another school are not ok. Covid and work from home is a newly abundant enabler but this practice is not new.
When will we get a report on the quiet clot shot?
Wrong..doing honest job for honest day is quiet quitting..above and beyond is being a slave for your corporate butts
There a volume Nov for this? I thought it was insubordination…….learn something everyday!
Corporate America doesn’t deserve your life! Work to achieve your goals!
Refreshing to hear anchors say the truth for humanity and not lifeless corporations. QQ is doing your job; if they want more then pay more and don’t complain about it. End of debate.
A business is meant to make as much profits as possible and pass out as little as possible
the main poin is how to make sure the people work more hard with salary more minimum. So company can still have profit
Fine... quiet quit... do the bare minimum.
But I'm paying by the hour, not by the minute... better not catch you on your phone. Bathroom breaks are at EXACTLY 10am 12am & 3pm.
You get only the amount of sick days legally allotted and you only get the vacation days you've earned. Does this sound like the kind of work environment everybody wants?
Quiet Quitting and massive Homelessness are modern-day concepts. Um, I just wonder how these workers will cope when they get ready to retire and discover that their social security payment is....um, non-existent or ridiculously low. (assuming that social security still exists into the future)!
That is why you need a balance. I know many people who died before the collect social security. What is the point of working yourself to death?
@@khanhcao3123 If only we knew when we are scheduled to die. It would make life planning so much easier!!
Its just being lazy
If you want to get ahead, go to work for the company and not the paycheck.
Quiet firing isn’t a new thing…thats been going on since, forever
Just a note to the people in the comments section:
Quiet is spelled Q-U-I-E-T.
Not really news- plenty of passive-aggressive animosity from employers n even fellow coworkers. Why is it so hard 2 find an overall decent workplace? smh
Words innit. Capitalistic words. I prefer quiet nutt'n
If you work overtime you'll probably see not even half that money that you get from working all those extra hours
Having goals in a place where you don't matter is a real challenge and contributes to depression. Especially if you have been there almost 30 years. They let you work for them for that long while getting high performer for years. Suddenly your a Ghost. All this, with almost no interaction from your boss. Huge company's aren't enjoyable to work for. Good Luck to All.
Low pay million dollar companies want you to work for $8 a hour …ok f that not worth your time
Milton was not a good example. He was actually fired, and they just kept paying him, and since he didn't know he was fired, he kept working. Then they stopped paying him when they realized their mistake. He was working for free since he didn't know he was fired and no longer getting paid. My last job tried to quiet fire me. I stayed longer than I was supposed to, and they were paying out the nose for the benefits Id earned. When they couldn't scare me off, they fired me for real, and I collected tens of thousands in unemployment wages. My former supervisor as well as those responsible in human resources were subsequently fired, and I now have a job that pays 3 times more.
Love it! Get loud and proud ,yall👍😎👍
From what I observed , some people are not worth what they are getting paid now .
Either you're blind or you are a manager who takes for granted that workers would dedicate their entire lives to a job. Won't happen honey
@@momoneyinvesting don't expect to do your private business on my time and dime. You are paid to work, not text your friends, family, etc. Prove to me you want the job and deserve bonuses and raises. There is alot of bosses out there that don't like free loaders.
@@anitakristensen4679 and there are a lot of workers who don't like being exploited. if you think people will go the extra mile for you without any incentive you're sorely mistaken. aside from doing only what is required no one gives two 💩s about making your business more money, people care about paying their bills and their life outside of work. lose the entitlement
@@momoneyinvesting workers like you need to lose the entitlement. Think of it this way. You go to buy a 6 pack of beer, you pay for the 6 pack. But you only get to take 4 cans or bottles of the 6 pack. I bet You would be mad and would want the full 6 pack.
now more employers want more outta their employees because a shortage of employees. not fair, same pay
What do you mean I have to work here 30 years to get to the top. Why ain't I making more mommy and daddy told me I was so great.
The here is your trophy for participating crowd in the work place.
Common sense don’t work more than u do for a job
U get paid what u do and thats it
Relabel “doing your job” to quiet quitting now? Where going to hire you to do a job, then say you’re quiet quitting when you don’t do more with out higher pay.
You’re all fired.
Isn't that being on call ? Working off the clock lol you are supposed to be paid for being on call. Lol
Minimum wage, minimum work... sorry, not sorry
New terms for a common practice. But a good answer to what the employers should consider. Missed the mark on employees. Quiet quitters should ask themselves - am I acting ethically.
Bruh, if im told to do something outside of my job description, and i get injured? That's outside of my job. I was doing something that im not assigned to do.
I'll stack my pallets and boxes, i get injured from a box or pallet hitting or landing on me? Company will cover my injury expenses, cause I was doing what was my actual job yet i get hurt.
If im told for some reason to get up on the ladder and clean dust off the piping on the warehouse rafters? And I get injured from falling off the ladder? Well im not supposed to do that soo... yea the company wont support cause I was doing something outside of my scope.
For the first time in my LIFE of seven decades I'm spending half an hour for every hour I'm PAID in doing reports, researching costs, and on the phone as my Board is out of province. It's really weird.But I have the time, FOR NOW. My "issue" is one co-worker thinks he's my boss and "volunteers" me for all kinds of non-work tasks, AND interruptions costing TIME. Work today has gone really strange: in other news, first timers with zero experience think they're 'worth" fifty buck an hour. As Raquel Welch said five decades ago: You should be paid what you EARN, not what you think you're "worth".
quiet quitting=Bare Minimum=poor work ethic=get gone
Huh? You're saying people should work for free?
@@penny4thought168 salary work v. hourly work. no one is working for free.
@That Tunisian Crochet Life salary professional position is not a union hourly position with rigid work specification. the quiet quitting is a signal that the person will do only the bare minimum, even if that is not the intent for every person. if you want to telework and make the most of your time at home outside of work, that’s fine, and that’s the signal you are sending, you want clear boundaries, and don’t want those boundaries violated. I’d be careful, because teleworking allows employers to draw from a much larger pool of talent, and if you don’t want me to ask anything extra of you, don’t worry, i won’t. employers also have more options now. and don’t expect raise or bonus- those are only for closers.
@@CJinsoo I think you're confused. Quiet quitting refers to those who do their work, but don't do anything else unless they're compensated in some way.
@@penny4thought168 compensation for what? what is “anything else?”. for salary professionals: bonus, raise, cash. awards, comp. time, etc…
A good part of ones wage is for character. H&R is skilled at finding people with good character. Good help is hard to find.
This is passive aggressive asf
quiet firing reminds me of Office Space
people asking about this are clueless. these are just ongoing problems. it is very costly and contentious to formally fire someone without an express due cause. much easier to quiet fire. if you don’t want to work, get a job with the government.
To be combated with the copy of company information and using at new job.
Milton wasn't quiet fired. He was actually fired five years before the start of the movie, but he was never told.
The employees that are quiet quitting are the same ones who are quiet fired for the most part
In Russia they have the term "Italian strike" which is essentially the English "work-to-role" concept. You do only the things stated in your job description. Which is usually nebulous and not strictly defined.
The thing about this I just realized is that I wasn't the only one going though this and I always felt like a lover at work meanwhile the folks pushing quiet quitting were all RELATED sons, daughters, husbands so essentially they obviously did not do these things to them , it was the City of San Diego library department
I dealt with 'quite firing' by ordering office supplies and taking them home. I was a one man department and buying supplies was one thing I did. My position was such that everybody in the office could give me tasks but there was nobody to help me, nobody to ask for help. I wanted to show one guy how to send a fax and he said 'nope, if I know how other people will tell me to do it'
I'm still using pens and stickies and such I ordered for myself.
''Another day at work another free pack of pens'' Homer Simpson.
With the Boomers retirement there probably isn't a line of people wanting the job now. Looks like it's a new day.
It has far too long been in the favor of the companies wherein we are asked to do the jobs of two people and even more. All while our bonuses (if at all?) are shrinking, healthcare benefits shrinking, and we no longer have pensions while Chief Officers enjoy all of the money that should be shared with employees for a stronger community and sense of ownership. Pizza on Fridays is horseshit!
"I'm going to live the rest of my life", wow! For quiet quitters work is not life but some sort of curse