RARE "Grandmaster Flash & The 4 MCs " 12/23/1978 (Part 1/3)
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2008
- A very rare recording of rap music pre-1979:
"Grandmaster Flash & The 4 MC's" Part 1/3
Live @ the Audubon Ballroom NYC 12/23/1978
Before they became "Grandmaster Flash & the Furious 5" there were 4 MCs and the group was known as: ""Grandmaster Flash & The 4 MCs."
This was recorded before Rahiem joined the group. Cowboy went by the name of "Keith Keith" and Scorpio was known as "Mr. Ness."
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Grandmaster Flash (turntables)
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The 4 MCs:
Grandmaster Melle Mel
Mr. Ness
Keith Keith
Kidd Creole
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Group, song title (year)
Fatback Band, “Fatbackin’ ” (1973)
Brooklyn Dreams, “Music, Harmony and Rhythm” (1977)
Gaz, “Sing Sing” (1978)
Manzel, “Space Funk” (1977) [spun backwards]
Dynamic Corvettes, “Funky Music Is the Thing” (1975)
Duke Williams and the Extremes, “Chinese Chicken” (1973)
All Dyrections, “On Top Of It” (1973)
Pleasure, “Let’s Dance” (1976)
John Davis and the Monster Orchestra, “I Can’t Stop” (1976)
David Matthews, “Main Theme from Star Wars” (1977)
The Blackbyrds, “Blackbyrds Theme” (1974)
Time
0:01-0:53
0:54-4:56
4:57-9:23
9:24-11:08
11:09-13:30
13:31-15:30
15:31-19:08
19:09-22:09
22:10-26:22
26:23-28:59
29:00-29:34
Man!! CLEM HAWKINS!!! Way To Know The History!! I'm Impressed.
Priceless.Thanks Clem.
Thank well needed to know man
Thank you so much!
I was @ this Party, we played with Kool DJ AJ featuring STAR-SKI.....Kool DJ Dee & his Brother TYRONE the MIXOLIGIST!!!
what was your DJ Name?
What's up Rick
Those of us who were prviledged to have grown up in this late 70's very early 80's era and have witnessed first hand all this being created were very lucky. Thanks for posting.
If i had a Time Machine, that’s the era I’d go first, NY specifically. The art scene, disco, the drugs, Hip Hop, etc. A real sweet spot in American culture!
I love how Flash kept those drum loops going and going and going..
There it is, a drum, a bassline, and an MC, its like the birth of all urban and dance music.
Grandmaster cut faster!
It is the birth of all urban music
i'm 51 yrs this past May 31..was living on 1889 Sedgewick Ave. Bx,NY was there from the beginning with KOOL HERC ,The Hievealo,Savoy Ballroom,Disco Fever and all dat!!!
You definitely saw it from the humble begins playa
Most People Don't respect or even know the people who laid the Groundwork.
Like me
Before this was the real grandmaster, Flowers
I Lived and Breathed this tape in 1978 I was 14 years old freshman in high school played it every day moms used to say turn that shit off and look at hip hop now
Mike Action yea the music now is F U C K E D fr
@@miguelaguirre5052 Got that right.
Amazing how fresh this sounds. I mean, you're obviously gonna know it's not from this year, but it sounds nearly the same as golden age hip hop from ten or fifteen years later (maybe with a few more "and you don't stop"s). Crazy to think this is from the era of bellbottoms and disco.
I think a lot of it is that this kind of stuff didn't make it onto record at the time it was first appearing, at least not that most people were able to hear. When a hip hop record came out, it was usually playing over a live band, then later drum machines and synthesizers with a few record scratches thrown in. Unless you were hip enough to be seeing it live when it happened, or got your hands on some underground recordings, you didn't get to hear this stuff. Hip hop on record didn't sound like this, with all the funk loops and samples, until the mid- to late 80s. But once it did, it's crazy how unchanged it remained, clear down to sampling 70s music.
Man, you took the words out of my mouth (or thoughts out of my head, I guess). When you hear studio hip-hop recordings from back then, they sound so tame and dated, but from this you get a much better idea that stuff happening 15-20 years later hadn't changed that much. So much stuff I thought Run DMC originated (still love them) is on here, it's just amazing how this was completely underground and had no mainstream exposure outside of the odd novelty Blondie or Clash interpretation. If this was how parties were these days, I might actually go to them, and I would be dancing my white ass off in the most embarrassing way you can imagine and loving every minute of it. As with most great things, most of us didn't learn about it until it was already ruined by greed.
MrBook, before there was a golden era of hip-hop it was a platinum era
This is Hip Hop was just plain and simple fun
can definitely hear the disco influence... amazing how it all started... evolved so much every year... such a fun time in music
MrGriff305....word u can hear the disco (really called R&B) influence, yet u can hear the B-boy influence when Flash threw on that raw stuff with the hard drum and congas in the back..... That was the difference btwn the DJ's from uptown and the ones from my beloved Brooklyn in the early 70's. We leaned more to disco even there some heavy drum flows in that sound also. Just a bit faster..but that SPECIFIC sound that got them b-boys & b-girls out there is the base for hip-hop that comes from uptown(the Bronx)
Who’s here for this beauty in 2021⚡️
I love the fact that GM Flash was cutting up these beats before they were sampled.
1978.... Let that sink in.
Ya! They were cussing too. They were saying motherfucker, shit, nigga, and other stuff
been listening to hip hop since 1979 down in southern jersey. when mel, kool moe dee, love bug starsky, flash, cool herc, grand master theodore and the list goes on had know idea of what there impact was going to be in the music industry the same industry that dismissed it as a fad back then.
BLACKMQQN : GRAND WIZARD THEODORE 🤦🏿♂️ & GRAND MASTER FLASH ⚡️
If you haven't already you should watch The get down on netflix
The REAL founding fathers of hip hop. Cool Herc, Grandmaster Caz, Flash and Bambatta. No Sugarhill Gang bullshit!!
Please put more of these on here the true birth of hip hop more of the east coast gods
notice how this touches your soul instantly
Flash is the reason that I started cutting. ..
Surely he's the reason EVERYONE starting cutting? :D
He made the most important contribution to djing with his theory to keep the music going seamlessly
Me too !
this is so fresh still 30 years later
This was the night of my 14th birthday. I was at a theater earlier that day watching Christopher Reeve in "Superman I."
THE GRAND MASTER BOO NASTY!!!
LMFAO
That shit was funny in the Get Down !!!!.... lol
Proud to be an old school head :-)
I had This On A Maxell Tape and Played It Till It Popped @ 11 yrs old
biggovmattic Gov Mattic I had it on a Radio Shack ( Realistic) tape and of course it popped.Got tired of splicing back together.Missed that tape too.Also had Flash at Bronx Science H.S in '78 or '79
love that transition at 0:53. Flash was ahead of his time, so were the MCs
Get Down! Loving Flash!
I was in the Navy stationed out in San Diego when this came out. I heard it in 1979 when my Brooklyn homeboys gave me a copy. Shout out EZ-D, Sal, Pipe, Tony D, Hands Down, Larue, Ray, Black Ed & all the Vamp Crew that came out to San Diego from NYC.
I was 11 and this is how a jam sounded at the park,community center and we called it jam b4 it became hip hop
Miss them days!
Grand Master Flash's timing on the one and twos is🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!!
This is fucking amazing...1978? It almost makes everything that came after seem like posers in comparison.
funkmike minus the "f**king"... ;)...but I feel ya funk....
Plus nr. 2 Fucking and Yes, everything that came after it's garbage :-D
go to mixcloud.com/abstraktmusic I got more early rap audio from 1977,78
electrolove87x straight up
electrolove87x they all sound like pigmeat markham
Thank you for showing the way. We appreciate you all so much.
Hip Hop lives Forever!!
☆Happy Bday☆
*40 Years old now*
*23.12.18*
Wow! This really brings me back. I can SMELL the era. Hip-hop was so intoxicating. I recall my heartbeat increasing as I walked closer to a park jam or party. Those were the days - British Walkers, Lees, mock necks, Spaulding shades, BVD's, Malt Duck, girls wearing jellybean shoes, etc. I'd do anything to experience one of those summertime saturday nights.
Jealous.
Much respect to those of you who were there as creators and observers too.
@@BoogieBoogsForever Thank you. An amazing era….
Notice how the emcees can make corrections on the fly for any slightly off beat or needle jumps cutz.
Yep. I used to Dj back then and anything made them needles jump.
I was one of the only guys in my crew that could keep rappin when the needles skipped without missing a beat. Rappin off obscure breaks was everything back in the day
FACTS!@@mikegee3991
Thats what made it original and real to me!@@mikegee3991
WOW!!!!!! I am so glad someone kept and can share these classic tapes with the world...GOOD JOB BROTHER!!! THANK YOU!!!!
35th Anniversary of this record, and I discovered it today. Thanks for posting.
thank you for putting this on!
Damn takes me back to jams at Rodney park in the South Side Williamsburg back in the day.
I remember back in the day, we use to stay up late and listen to 105.9 NYC,,,This station only came on in the middle of the night with the Supreme Team show, snd they use to play the live battles and this over the air... If you have a radio at home, you also has your cassette set and ready for recording,,,
Classic Hip Hop history
I recommend reading ''last night a DJ saved my life'' to see what happened before this to make it happen. Some of you may be surprised. It definitly filled some of the jigsaw pieces for me.
OMG what Legends =))) thanks for uploading!
I was three when Grandmaster Flash ROCKED THIS.
great TV show!!!
i heard GMF as a child in the 80's 👍😋
The funkiest stuff was built on the shoulders of jazz records no question!
RIP Rammellzee! these rhymes were so ahead of their time, suckas still aint caught up to this!
Scott Ruen I know that's right!
+Scott Ruen ofc suckas still haven't caught up to this. suckas write for money. those guys did it for themselve in the first place, maybe for art, too
Rammell and Flash 2 pure geniuses in the room .
@@Pintkonan So have many others you're just not looking in the right places true Hip-Hop is built off of innovating for the Art. Open your mind.
One must Understand Flash's Cuts and his mindset. No one was on time like Flash. His style of timing was so Uncanny. His sense to catch a record from the top and crossfade it in only to have it right on time was sick. Not to often was he ever of beat throwing in a break from the top to match what was already spinning. I have seen and heard Jazzy Jay from Zulu and Charlie Chase do it on occassions, but the first to ever make me take a second look at timing was Flash. The Genius of Timing.
Grandmaster Caz was just as good.
Don't forget the Grand Wizard Theodore as well!
thats whats up ! this is truly the foundation . thanks for bringin it
this should be remastered
LONE PRIME sadly the 80s and 90s are being praised
Mixing and rhymin is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks, I have listened to this for years that is a smoking break .
Wicked... Thanks so much....
I saw them in london like 30 years ago...! Still amazing.
0:54 listen to the audience
Bull Schitt that's the reaction you want as the dj drops that heat.
Damn, man, this is some legendary shit. Thank you for sharing, peace ! This will last forever !
Damn, they should of released this on Sugar Hill Records on 12 inch vinyl, Pure Gold!!
lets go back to 82park.t.connection,audubon.those jams was the s;hhh.miss those days.rip herb.we were there.😄😄😄.
Das hört sich an als wenn ich mit meinen Homies in unserem Hobbykeller eine Session hätte.
Wundervolle Jahre, ich hab mit 12 angefangen, heute bin ich 40 und bin immer noch mit Rap und Hip Hop verbunden. Dank Künstler wie diesen hier 💯♥️‼
i was born too late to enjoy grandmaster flash >
THE GET DOWN !
yes yes yolll...
Hip Hop in its RAWWEST form right here .NYC style.this is how it all began!! done fuh show. nice post man Big up!..to the yes yes yall,to the beat yall-u dont stop--ya keep on!! rock on melle mel, peace..
enfin du vrai hip hop com yen na plu!!!! thanks pour cette archive en or
Flash was the first in extend those hot funky breaks (that Kool Herc only fade the one to other different in his "Merry Go-Round") using 2 copies of the same record on both turntables and mixing between they seemless, in similar way of Pete DJ Jones.
I am 41 and grew up when this was ALL NEW. I miss my records tapes and recording studio. I need to pull out some old rare tunes I still have and upload them don't I... :)
Very cool you got a piece of History there..
TAKE NOTE THAT COWBOY ALSO WENT BY THE NAME KEITH COWBOY...AND AT ONE TIME IT WAS JUST THE THREE MCS MINUS MR NESS....EVEN LOVE BUG STARSKY WAS ROCKING WITH THEM FROM TIME TO TIME EVEN BEFORE THAT TIME WHEN THE REPETITION MC CRAZE WAS JUST BEGINNING. .DON'T FORGET THE DISCO BEE YAWLL!!! SHOTGUN IS IN THE HOUSE....
MRCNN LIVE boy ! Famli
U had 2 b there very few know that give props 2 the dale n disco king mario n 123 if u know every body came 2 the b.dale 1 section
MRCNN LIVE
And kurtis Blow
I you know your hop history mr.hip hop this is me sun dance from the 1st section Bronx Dale ya"ll keep forgetting the main man that was apart of the foundation of hop from the 1st section in Bronx Dale that everyone came to fuck with disco king Mario and my nephew the grand imprieal Jaz
@@ronaldbailey9514 Peace fam, this is the other part of the M.R.C. team , my brother P.H.A.S.E. 2 wrote that first reply , rip to the pioneer Big Up
@@ronaldbailey9514 EXACTLY I STILL FUCK WITH BRONXDALE R.I.P MARIO I STILL HANG WITH DEE JAY PHASE
This is hip hop at its finest........
Sounds pretty cool man. Love from Scotland. Peace x
This is one of my favorite old school tapes
This is awesome, I am just thrown by one thing, just got done reading "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash", according to Flash, Eddie Morris, aka Mr. Ness, the one to the left in the picture was the fifth man in the group, and was definitely in by the time they played the Audubon the first time Sept. 5th, 1976. Actually the member this vid says was the 5th man, Guy Williams aka Raheim was there on that date as well, in his book Flash remembers being introduced by him, Creole, and Scorpio. FYI
Thanks for cleaning that up...lol. These are the original Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame Pioneering DJ and MC's. The Sure Shot for 1978 and beyond!
love this era
2nd song. . . Brooklyn dreams. I can't remember name of the song tho! So classic. So hottest. "Flash is the kiiinng . . . . of the quick mix.
truely amazing! flash was so on point back then!
ten stars!!! i LOVE this.these were the superstars b4 commercialism. shout out to the treacherous 3.original flavor.
Do I hear an ECHO CHAMBER
REGINALD FORDHAM yes that’s shit sound sweet I love echo
That's what i'm talking about :-) old school loving it
Damn Im old..I was @ this party...was with Kool DJ DEE and DJ Tyrone...Love bug was with AJ...next night we played with Afrika Bamabaata....damn Im OLD....LOL
preversion of rappers delight❤
Mele Mel the first Emcee I seen ever rock a party !!!!! Who’s here 2018 ????? Furious Five ain’t no Jive !!!!!! Shout Out to George Westinghouse H.S Lunch Room !!!
What's good, Good Brother ?
I went to George Westinghouse High School from 1979 to 1983.
I remember these tapes being played in the lunchroom.
REALLY THE 1ST WAS COKE LA ROCK THEN CHIEF ROCKER BUSY BEE
These were our teachers and pioneers!!!!!! They showed us how to do it as if it was meant to be. All the music technology of today, samplers, software, drum machines etc. was inspired by GRAND MASTER FLASH!!!!!
This is official.I remember this like yesterday going to the flea market in the bronx purchasing mixtapes from the tape master.Taping flyers to the wall in my bedroom etc.
Them Humble Beginings🦾🦾🦾
I was down with rap back then...now not so much.
@TERMINATOR-X Look beneath the surface & Dig in the Crates. You are guaranteed to find true art & Hidden gems for real.
Yeah, you just gotta find different rappers. The most popular does not mean its the best.
makes me proud to be a nyc kid even though im far from the 5 boros
thanks for sharin, old school is what i bleed
I was there at that night made stick up and shot outs Casanova crew N the nine crew
Casanova, All Ova’
I was three years old when this track debuted ... RAD!
GRANDMASTER FOR A REASON !! flash is in every dj... the originator !!
Used to love standing watchin and listening to the homeboys get down....
Awesome!
Im 40 years old from the BX. I grew up in River Park towers across from Cedar Park from 75-80. I still never heard this. wow. very rare.
1978? F. Brilliant! Flash paved the way!
Some cracking grooves! If you like Hip Hop you really must listen to this.....................1978!!!! PI...ON...EER!!!
The lyrics sound a bit cheesey now but this was the START!
A1!!!!!.
Memories don't leave like people do..."KEEP ON FLASH!!!"
very very very old schooooool!!!!! great to hear it!!!
I'm 48 this year. I remember when there was no hip hop. Thankfully I got hip hop and funk as part of my life.
where can i hear more ol skool tapes like this ?
🔥🔥🔥 classic they where way ahead of there time
I'm rocking to this. This is the hip hop I know back then. Are there are copies of this tape available to the public?
Hell yeah. Wish I had been born in uptown im the 70s.
PURE!!!!!!!
I WANT TO THANK GM FLASH AND THE 3 MC'S LATER THE FURIOUS 4 MC'S FOR ALL THOSE GREAT MEMORIES. I.E. SKELLYS, BREAK DANCING AND MOST OF ALL HIP HOP. I MUST SAY HIP HOP UNDER THESE GUYS TRULY SAVED MY LIFE. IT GAVE US AN OUTLET, SOMETHING TO DO, LOOK FORWARD TO, LOCAL HEROS TO LOOK UP TO AND MIMIC. 1973-1979 WAS A GOLDEN ERA AND IM TRULY BLESS TO HAVE WITNESS IT. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT EARLY ROCK-N-ROLL MEANT TO MY PARENTS!
incredible hip hop history.