That was just a dirty move to sell outdated super-simple geometry models for the game that supports PBR materials and shaders that used in some windows to make an illusion of 3d space. Got a feeling that some dickheads in ORBX were like who cares as those old dumb simmers know nothing about graphics, textures, materials so why not to make more money selling the same old set for another sim. They sell their stupid planes for the price that is higher than any full game itself and they were too lazy to make brand new geometry of those few buildings around. Microsoft should have been canceled working with them for doing that. Such a disrespect to the whole simmers community.
Some are saying that it doesn't matter about the details/textures if your up high flying - but what about when Microsoft implement Helicopters? Your gonna want to go site seeing at low levels... Orbx has messed up here big time
Regardless - it makes no sense paying to degrade something. I wonder if ORBX QC was on vacation. Why replace nice high quality content with low poly / texture models.
Yeah, why did they even replaced the default Models when they are much better quality. The could have just added the missing stuff and it would be ok for the price, but i dont understand why they override existing stuff...
That seems to be the only issue for me. Yeh, in general, Buck Palace is blurry. But if they left the things that were there as they were and it was a purely additive mod, you couldnt complain for the price. But 6 quid to make what I had - worse... no way.
I can't believe they've done this. It's really weird because a few of the London City additions are OK, but Big Ben, the Bridge, etc are simply inexcusable. One must wonder did they pack the wrong assets into the final release? I look forward to hearing their ORBX's side of the story, if this was intentional and considered "good enough" by them for real, then they are dead to me and I'll apportion some blame to Micrsoft as well for allowing this train wreck into their official store.
Sean Alexander yes I also dont have any idea how Microsoft allowed it into their in game store! I don’t really think they check or approve as they probably take a cut. This was definitely a money grab opportunity where they probably rushed it or quickly had something done just so it can make the launch so people would think that they need this to get the full London experience. Let’s hope they address this I want them to redeem theirselves they owe everybody a fix.
OrbX said it was intentional - they said "we didn't expect people to park next to the structures" and "we *could* do everything at a higher resolution, but then it would tank the performance". They are now asking people to vote which structures should be improved
Whilst I agree that the ORBX landmarks do not compare well with the default landmarks, what I bought it for (and am happy with for flyiing over London at a normal altitude), is the many many landmarks that are NOT in MSFS. You showed The Palace of Westminster, but omitted to show that Westminster Abbey next door is an office block in MSFS - as is Buckingham Palace. For the pretty low price, I am happy with the ORBX addition.
It's an insult to the entire MSFS community. I got conned into buying it by their screenshots, but I've uninstalled it now and won't be reinstalling it until they fix it.
I think that this pack is clearly made for Londoners who want more landmarks represented even if they look worse close up. I would rather have the feel of London that this pack offers rather than the 4 landmarks surrounded by sludge in the vanilla game.
Callum McCreath do you think overwriting many default landmarks with a lower res is justifiable just for the sake of more landmarks? It’s the way it was executed that has got people going livid.
@@OzzySafa anyone actually livid needs to take deep breaths and go for a walk.... It's disappointing and will be addressed so let's wait for the update imo...
Thanks! This is the 2nd comparison I have seen. I was a little skeptical on the first one. I was be inclined to buy the product when or if they redo it to a decent quality. :)
So the choice is to get one with more landmarks but worse looking or get one with fewer landmarks but the ones they have are much higher quality. Annoying
@@OzzySafa I think I kind of got overhyoed the trailer showed something that was carefully selected I knew it would be too good to be true. A lot of areas I've been are very low quality like the Seychelles When they say it has every airport in the world but then you have countries with the main international airport missing...
@@OzzySafa I think I kind of got overhyoed the trailer showed something that was carefully selected I knew it would be too good to be true. A lot of areas I've been are very low quality like the Seychelles When they say it has every airport in the world but then you have countries with the main international airport missing...
Reaction review was equally critical. I don't think MS check, maybe too time consuming or orbyx's reputation preceded them and they thought it will be OK?
Orbx no doubt adapted their already created landmarks from previous platforms, to MSFS. The approach of OrbX 3D is optimized for global scenery modeling, so you see these from the air and they look ok... Also, they used photos for the wall textures of their landmarks. And the textures are optimized for performance. MSFS 3D landmarks most probably use specific material types repeated on the walls (like bricks etc) and higher res material sheets. Hence it looks crisper and cleaner. Thus two different approaches (Photoreal vs material) and again, OrbX are part of a global VFR package thus optimized for that... And for the platform tech where they were meant to be initially. By the way, the same will happen with the adapted addon aircraft 3d/textures compared to the default 3D/textures...
I'd actually be really curious to see these comparisons from higher up at actual flight levels, since orbx has stated they didnt intend for people to be looking at these so up close. I'm not sure but I suspect some of these models might look better than the default ones at a distance based mostly on the coloring of them, as i've noticed a lot of the default msfs models stick out like a sore thumb compared to the scenery around.
On the Marketplace, I noticed last night that all of the reviews were removed. Maybe it was a glitch but all of the other products still had their reviews.
Jonathan Bowen well obviously we all knew that was going to happen eventually did you not see when this video was created. Thanks for being the lucky 4
Jonathan Bowen the problem most of the community has was the unacceptable level of quality that we expect from the company that make great software. We all knew they rushed it just to take advantage of launch we all knew it was a money grab opportunity and you knew it too. Ofcourse software gets updated and improved overtime but there’s is level which is expected to be met for a first try and orbx just knew they didn’t meet it but decided to go ahead anyway when they should just worked on it and delayed it.
The London pack is fine if you're flying at a few thousand feet but most people are going to want to get a closer view. The textures are far too low res. Orbx has replied on their forum orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/198480-microsoft-flight-simulator-post-release/
I dont even understand, i bought it without looking at london. So when i looked at The pictures it showed and so on. I thought holy shit this is gonna look good. But that was The pictures of tje original microsoft data? Wth is that? Can i unload this shit and get my original back and load this after they maybe fix it?
It was a money grab. Simple as. They have put up a post on their boards about being 'sorry' for releasing it with some of the textures being worse than what MSFS came with. Their version of tower Bridge is terrible, the default texture was tons better. Sure MS missed out the London eye, walkie talkie and quite a lot of others but for a paid add on....wow it's not good.
why did you recommend it then ? it was known on day 1 it was released that it was terrible and just a money grab - i think they copied it from their MS FS X flight sim of 10 years ago. But good for highlighting its flaws.
It was probably just a direct port from the TrueEarth Great Britain south landmarks it looks exactly the same quality of modeling and texturing... That was something I was afraid since the begining of MSFS : since it is covering natively a lot of areas that third party devs were covering for P3D or xplane, and that it's pretty much impossible for now to compete with the high definition ortho they are offering natively, third party developpers are going to sell their top products revamped of the last flightsim generation in parts. True Earth GB South is sold at around 30 US dollars at the moment, and it offers high quality mesh, a complete replacement for autogen, vegetation, watermask, hundreds of landmarks, good quality of color corrected ortho, accurate forest and tree placement for the whole Great Britain south region...Well a lot of good things, and it really is a gamechanger! For MSFS, it's just London Landmarks Pack wich is sold 6 US dollars, doesn't seems that much, but if you compare with the price and the quality of the True Earth product and what it really adds to x-plane or P3D, it surely doesn't worth it! I think they are now going to sell us landmarks addons for very localised areas during a while, when we had entire regions in other seems for pretty cheap prices. That is probably not only on third party but also the SDK that doesn't allow much yet... For now I find most of the MSFS addons disappointing compare to what you can get for other sims, like airports coming with landmarks, custom vegetation, custom mesh, custom ortho... In MSFS even the best airports addons like LOWI are kind of a let down, there is landmarks, custom ortho, buildings and modeling is very good quality, but the foliage, the trees in the area at nothing like reality, and the mesh is very poor. I don't feel really the huge improvment of the sim that addons can give you with x-plane or P3D. It's probably normal since it's the begining and the level is already very high, but third party devs really need to up their game, and MSFS team need to open up SDK part like MESH, tree replacement, watermask, exclusion etc... The conclusion is, we probably have to wait if we want really high quality addons like we are used to have in other sims...
Orbx's excuse is that people will only see these landmarks from a distance, and that higher quality models will put strain on people's systems. What bollocks! The game puts heavy focus on doing low flyovers in single prop planes, and if people's systems can't handle better than this N64 level rubbish, they wouldn't be able to run MSFS2020 anyway!
This is total BS. This "review" ignores Canary Wharf (which looks 1000% better in the ORBX pack and really helps the realism if you are flying around London City Airport), the City of London, Buckingham Palace (which now isnt a block of flats...), the London Eye, Battersea Power Station, The Albert Hall, The Thames Barrier and a whole load of other details in the ORBX pack... In the video here you do get to see the London eye and the old GLC building in the review but its casually ignored, also, take a look at the Shard at night: totally different in the ORBX pack as its actually lit properly...
Where do you see written in the title “review”? This was a comparison of the day one launch of the add on and I was highlighting the bad points. Yes I didn’t cover Canary Wharf because it isn’t there in the default hence the title “side by side comparison”.
This new review is also incorrect. Yes the 4 landmarks that asobo made are great (allthough that castle is very very white). But the ORBX upgrade contains much more then just these 4 landmarks. All bridges, a lot of office buildings, millenium wheel, hms Belfast. BT tower etc. Etc. And allthough they are of low quality and indeed the bridges don’t fit in well (cars, the way they are connected to the road sometimes ridiculous) they do blend in well and for the most part at flying distance are accurate enough. I do still feel it is a big upgrade. Just leave the default asobo landmarks alone and upgrade the textures, 3d modelling a bit and then it will be perfect. They need to come out with a statement with their intention.
They have fixed most of this launch issues. Most people moaning about t he pack don't notice the hundereds of buidlings that they have corrected. It's amazing how much they have fixed but i woudlnt have noticed if I wasn't families with the city. Before it was a generic city with a few nice models, now it's actually a proper representation of the city. The pack is an absolute bargain.
At least you can fly through the bridge lol. You cant on default. But yeah I bought this and it is a joke. I really hope they update it, or at least remove the replaced buildings already in the game and put the defaults back.
This is what I think they will do, but I actually hope they go in and fix it and surpass the default which is the whole point of an add on.. we can only hope
@@OzzySafa yeah that's what I expected really. I had only recently heard of orbx and that they were really good and reputable. But if that is the case, then this must have plummeted their rep.
I feel bad for orbx cuz I probably would've fallen for their lies but now im going to second guess even their good content, making people scrutinize it waaaaay closer because we don't want to get ripped again
I hope Orbyx got their knuckles rapped by Microsoft who are equally to blame for allowing this product to pass onto the Windows Store in the first place!
Good, good, please boycot orbx, it has always been crap and they've been able to get away with it for too long since the only alternative to their 1990s graphics were 1980s default sceneries. Now of course the best would be if if fs2020 would just stream some damn actual 3d maps of london, paris, amsterdam, you know, like google maps has had for a decade and it would just look the same as real life without the need for this stupid auto-gen all over again and expansion packs. They dropped the ball here big time.
I have to say while I agree Orbx messed up on some of the key assets which Asobo had originally produced to such a good standard, the majority of assets are great - pretty much all the buildings along the Thames for example are custom models. There is a vast body of work here Orbx have done (400+ buildings) and somebody who doesn't know London that well can easily miss 95% of it. I mean that because the work they have done is insane ok much of this was originally done for TrueEarth GB South but many of the buildings look great in MFS. The worst looking buildings just happen to be the ones Asobo had produced high detailed versions of. I wonder if it was a last minute descion to include there own poorly made models, that was a disaster and that person should be fired from Orbx.
@@OzzySafa that walkie talkie building is where I work on the 14 floor, so you could imagine any update improving London I was going to be stoked about! The recent update as well improves things further.
@@dtrjones Correct, there is a huge amount of work in the pack that 90% of people would never notice. There are even people moaning say that the base city is better overall !! haha
That was just a dirty move to sell outdated super-simple geometry models for the game that supports PBR materials and shaders that used in some windows to make an illusion of 3d space.
Got a feeling that some dickheads in ORBX were like who cares as those old dumb simmers know nothing about graphics, textures, materials so why not to make more money selling the same old set for another sim.
They sell their stupid planes for the price that is higher than any full game itself and they were too lazy to make brand new geometry of those few buildings around.
Microsoft should have been canceled working with them for doing that. Such a disrespect to the whole simmers community.
Some are saying that it doesn't matter about the details/textures if your up high flying - but what about when Microsoft implement Helicopters? Your gonna want to go site seeing at low levels... Orbx has messed up here big time
Regardless - it makes no sense paying to degrade something. I wonder if ORBX QC was on vacation.
Why replace nice high quality content with low poly / texture models.
Orbx what have thou done
I think it is a huge let down! They must sort this out in a update fix or we will have lost our trust in them!
Yeah, why did they even replaced the default Models when they are much better quality. The could have just added the missing stuff and it would be ok for the price, but i dont understand why they override existing stuff...
no logic!
Cash grab
That seems to be the only issue for me. Yeh, in general, Buck Palace is blurry. But if they left the things that were there as they were and it was a purely additive mod, you couldnt complain for the price. But 6 quid to make what I had - worse... no way.
Can’t believe ORBX rushed the scenery, discussing.
I can't believe they've done this. It's really weird because a few of the London City additions are OK, but Big Ben, the Bridge, etc are simply inexcusable. One must wonder did they pack the wrong assets into the final release? I look forward to hearing their ORBX's side of the story, if this was intentional and considered "good enough" by them for real, then they are dead to me and I'll apportion some blame to Micrsoft as well for allowing this train wreck into their official store.
Sean Alexander yes I also dont have any idea how Microsoft allowed it into their in game store! I don’t really think they check or approve as they probably take a cut. This was definitely a money grab opportunity where they probably rushed it or quickly had something done just so it can make the launch so people would think that they need this to get the full London experience. Let’s hope they address this I want them to redeem theirselves they owe everybody a fix.
OrbX said it was intentional - they said "we didn't expect people to park next to the structures" and "we *could* do everything at a higher resolution, but then it would tank the performance". They are now asking people to vote which structures should be improved
Whilst I agree that the ORBX landmarks do not compare well with the default landmarks, what I bought it for (and am happy with for flyiing over London at a normal altitude), is the many many landmarks that are NOT in MSFS. You showed The Palace of Westminster, but omitted to show that Westminster Abbey next door is an office block in MSFS - as is Buckingham Palace. For the pretty low price, I am happy with the ORBX addition.
It has got better wit updates but for launch it was very rushed
Do you think Orbx Landmarks London City pack is a disappointment? Comment below to let me know what you think.
Looks like they are aware and are addressing: orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/198593-landmarks-london-city-pack-for-msfs/
It's an insult to the entire MSFS community. I got conned into buying it by their screenshots, but I've uninstalled it now and won't be reinstalling it until they fix it.
I think that this pack is clearly made for Londoners who want more landmarks represented even if they look worse close up. I would rather have the feel of London that this pack offers rather than the 4 landmarks surrounded by sludge in the vanilla game.
Callum McCreath do you think overwriting many default landmarks with a lower res is justifiable just for the sake of more landmarks? It’s the way it was executed that has got people going livid.
@@OzzySafa anyone actually livid needs to take deep breaths and go for a walk.... It's disappointing and will be addressed so let's wait for the update imo...
Can you do an updated video comparison now that Orbx has improved the London City Pack?
Virtual Air Tour as you wish in the near future
@@OzzySafa excellent. Great work.
I think Orbx just simply copy+paste the textures from the pervious Orbx England pack and expected everything to be better, looks like they were wrong.
Didn't this mod come out before the photogrammetry and world updates though?
Thanks! This is the 2nd comparison I have seen. I was a little skeptical on the first one. I was be inclined to buy the product when or if they redo it to a decent quality. :)
Tom Wunder for sure I will wait for a fix first
So the choice is to get one with more landmarks but worse looking or get one with fewer landmarks but the ones they have are much higher quality.
Annoying
So far that is how it is, really hoping they sort it out!
@@OzzySafa I think I kind of got overhyoed the trailer showed something that was carefully selected I knew it would be too good to be true. A lot of areas I've been are very low quality like the Seychelles
When they say it has every airport in the world but then you have countries with the main international airport missing...
@@OzzySafa I think I kind of got overhyoed the trailer showed something that was carefully selected I knew it would be too good to be true. A lot of areas I've been are very low quality like the Seychelles
When they say it has every airport in the world but then you have countries with the main international airport missing...
Reaction review was equally critical. I don't think MS check, maybe too time consuming or orbyx's reputation preceded them and they thought it will be OK?
Harry Trueman I really think that was the case
Looks very much like they gave it to the work experience team to practice on during lockdown, then released it without anyone reviewing it!
Orbx no doubt adapted their already created landmarks from previous platforms, to MSFS. The approach of OrbX 3D is optimized for global scenery modeling, so you see these from the air and they look ok... Also, they used photos for the wall textures of their landmarks. And the textures are optimized for performance. MSFS 3D landmarks most probably use specific material types repeated on the walls (like bricks etc) and higher res material sheets. Hence it looks crisper and cleaner. Thus two different approaches (Photoreal vs material) and again, OrbX are part of a global VFR package thus optimized for that... And for the platform tech where they were meant to be initially. By the way, the same will happen with the adapted addon aircraft 3d/textures compared to the default 3D/textures...
I'd actually be really curious to see these comparisons from higher up at actual flight levels, since orbx has stated they didnt intend for people to be looking at these so up close. I'm not sure but I suspect some of these models might look better than the default ones at a distance based mostly on the coloring of them, as i've noticed a lot of the default msfs models stick out like a sore thumb compared to the scenery around.
Orbx really messed up with the first London pack, but now they seem to have updated it. It should be better now.
Frans Hartman can’t wait to test it out
On the Marketplace, I noticed last night that all of the reviews were removed. Maybe it was a glitch but all of the other products still had their reviews.
Benjamin H think they are panicking they’ve realised they should’ve perfected it instead of rushing for launch
Because most of the reviews are irrelevant as the pack as been updated. Almost all of the points made in this video are null and void now.
Jonathan Bowen well obviously we all knew that was going to happen eventually did you not see when this video was created. Thanks for being the lucky 4
@@OzzySafa Software gets updated
Jonathan Bowen the problem most of the community has was the unacceptable level of quality that we expect from the company that make great software. We all knew they rushed it just to take advantage of launch we all knew it was a money grab opportunity and you knew it too. Ofcourse software gets updated and improved overtime but there’s is level which is expected to be met for a first try and orbx just knew they didn’t meet it but decided to go ahead anyway when they should just worked on it and delayed it.
I would love to see you do a side by side comparison of orbx Seattle
I think I can make that happen I’ll look into it
Will Microsoft be happy with all the negative feedback this has created at launch?
The London pack is fine if you're flying at a few thousand feet but most people are going to want to get a closer view. The textures are far too low res. Orbx has replied on their forum orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/198480-microsoft-flight-simulator-post-release/
They better hope that helicopters don't get added to the game. lol
ORBX clearly used images of the actual landmarks and slapped them on basic objects shapes.
well yeah orbx textures are from the 60s, the vanilla is from 2020.
I dont even understand, i bought it without looking at london. So when i looked at The pictures it showed and so on. I thought holy shit this is gonna look good. But that was The pictures of tje original microsoft data? Wth is that? Can i unload this shit and get my original back and load this after they maybe fix it?
i fell for the trap too yes u can just uncheck the orbx add on in the content manager in game
It was a money grab. Simple as.
They have put up a post on their boards about being 'sorry' for releasing it with some of the textures being worse than what MSFS came with. Their version of tower Bridge is terrible, the default texture was tons better. Sure MS missed out the London eye, walkie talkie and quite a lot of others but for a paid add on....wow it's not good.
Where did they say sorry? orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/198480-microsoft-flight-simulator-post-release/ they do not seem sorry to me.
Not a sorry but at least acceptance.
orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/198593-landmarks-london-city-pack-for-msfs/.
@@raptorman0 +1
why did you recommend it then ? it was known on day 1 it was released that it was terrible and just a money grab - i think they copied it from their MS FS X flight sim of 10 years ago. But good for highlighting its flaws.
they have released a patch to address these problems
I have to wait as I got it through the in game market place. They said it will take some time to be approved
@@OzzySafa so it looks like buying direct i s going to be better than buying from the market place in that case
No London Eye or HMS BELFAST or bridges in the defauld is crazy for a town like London .
It was probably just a direct port from the TrueEarth Great Britain south landmarks it looks exactly the same quality of modeling and texturing...
That was something I was afraid since the begining of MSFS : since it is covering natively a lot of areas that third party devs were covering for P3D or xplane, and that it's pretty much impossible for now to compete with the high definition ortho they are offering natively, third party developpers are going to sell their top products revamped of the last flightsim generation in parts.
True Earth GB South is sold at around 30 US dollars at the moment, and it offers high quality mesh, a complete replacement for autogen, vegetation, watermask, hundreds of landmarks, good quality of color corrected ortho, accurate forest and tree placement for the whole Great Britain south region...Well a lot of good things, and it really is a gamechanger!
For MSFS, it's just London Landmarks Pack wich is sold 6 US dollars, doesn't seems that much, but if you compare with the price and the quality of the True Earth product and what it really adds to x-plane or P3D, it surely doesn't worth it!
I think they are now going to sell us landmarks addons for very localised areas during a while, when we had entire regions in other seems for pretty cheap prices.
That is probably not only on third party but also the SDK that doesn't allow much yet...
For now I find most of the MSFS addons disappointing compare to what you can get for other sims, like airports coming with landmarks, custom vegetation, custom mesh, custom ortho...
In MSFS even the best airports addons like LOWI are kind of a let down, there is landmarks, custom ortho, buildings and modeling is very good quality, but the foliage, the trees in the area at nothing like reality, and the mesh is very poor.
I don't feel really the huge improvment of the sim that addons can give you with x-plane or P3D. It's probably normal since it's the begining and the level is already very high, but third party devs really need to up their game, and MSFS team need to open up SDK part like MESH, tree replacement, watermask, exclusion etc...
The conclusion is, we probably have to wait if we want really high quality addons like we are used to have in other sims...
Thats extremely poor work. Should be removed from the game, and refunded. Insulting.
Orbx's excuse is that people will only see these landmarks from a distance, and that higher quality models will put strain on people's systems. What bollocks! The game puts heavy focus on doing low flyovers in single prop planes, and if people's systems can't handle better than this N64 level rubbish, they wouldn't be able to run MSFS2020 anyway!
Exactly, the Icon can even land on the water so getting really close to the ground is part of the game. Scammers.
Total disgrace from ORBX and Microsoft for allowing this on the Marketplace. Been trying to get my money back and I can't.
This is total BS. This "review" ignores Canary Wharf (which looks 1000% better in the ORBX pack and really helps the realism if you are flying around London City Airport), the City of London, Buckingham Palace (which now isnt a block of flats...), the London Eye, Battersea Power Station, The Albert Hall, The Thames Barrier and a whole load of other details in the ORBX pack... In the video here you do get to see the London eye and the old GLC building in the review but its casually ignored, also, take a look at the Shard at night: totally different in the ORBX pack as its actually lit properly...
Where do you see written in the title “review”? This was a comparison of the day one launch of the add on and I was highlighting the bad points. Yes I didn’t cover Canary Wharf because it isn’t there in the default hence the title “side by side comparison”.
2:15 looks like the whole building is made out of screen space reflections
This new review is also incorrect. Yes the 4 landmarks that asobo made are great (allthough that castle is very very white). But the ORBX upgrade contains much more then just these 4 landmarks. All bridges, a lot of office buildings, millenium wheel, hms Belfast. BT tower etc. Etc. And allthough they are of low quality and indeed the bridges don’t fit in well (cars, the way they are connected to the road sometimes ridiculous) they do blend in well and for the most part at flying distance are accurate enough. I do still feel it is a big upgrade. Just leave the default asobo landmarks alone and upgrade the textures, 3d modelling a bit and then it will be perfect. They need to come out with a statement with their intention.
They have fixed most of this launch issues. Most people moaning about t he pack don't notice the hundereds of buidlings that they have corrected. It's amazing how much they have fixed but i woudlnt have noticed if I wasn't families with the city. Before it was a generic city with a few nice models, now it's actually a proper representation of the city. The pack is an absolute bargain.
At least you can fly through the bridge lol. You cant on default. But yeah I bought this and it is a joke. I really hope they update it, or at least remove the replaced buildings already in the game and put the defaults back.
This is what I think they will do, but I actually hope they go in and fix it and surpass the default which is the whole point of an add on.. we can only hope
@@OzzySafa yeah that's what I expected really. I had only recently heard of orbx and that they were really good and reputable. But if that is the case, then this must have plummeted their rep.
I would call it just laziness
I feel bad for orbx cuz I probably would've fallen for their lies but now im going to second guess even their good content, making people scrutinize it waaaaay closer because we don't want to get ripped again
My god I’ve been ripped off!!!
I hope Orbyx got their knuckles rapped by Microsoft who are equally to blame for allowing this product to pass onto the Windows Store in the first place!
Hoping people vote with their wallets and stay well away. Hope someone else does a London pack
Good, good, please boycot orbx, it has always been crap and they've been able to get away with it for too long since the only alternative to their 1990s graphics were 1980s default sceneries. Now of course the best would be if if fs2020 would just stream some damn actual 3d maps of london, paris, amsterdam, you know, like google maps has had for a decade and it would just look the same as real life without the need for this stupid auto-gen all over again and expansion packs. They dropped the ball here big time.
money grab
I have to say while I agree Orbx messed up on some of the key assets which Asobo had originally produced to such a good standard, the majority of assets are great - pretty much all the buildings along the Thames for example are custom models. There is a vast body of work here Orbx have done (400+ buildings) and somebody who doesn't know London that well can easily miss 95% of it. I mean that because the work they have done is insane ok much of this was originally done for TrueEarth GB South but many of the buildings look great in MFS. The worst looking buildings just happen to be the ones Asobo had produced high detailed versions of. I wonder if it was a last minute descion to include there own poorly made models, that was a disaster and that person should be fired from Orbx.
David Jones I agree they did a great job with Canary Wharf and the surrounding buildings and even the girkin and walk is talky building.
@@OzzySafa that walkie talkie building is where I work on the 14 floor, so you could imagine any update improving London I was going to be stoked about! The recent update as well improves things further.
David Jones I go to sky garden a few times I like it there !
@@OzzySafa yeah it is cool. the stairs on the sides are really steep, we have a private lift which takes us to the top, no need to queue!
@@dtrjones Correct, there is a huge amount of work in the pack that 90% of people would never notice. There are even people moaning say that the base city is better overall !! haha
world up and orbx, now are better.
Long story short : pay to make your game look shittier.
Orbyx cash grab ...
they need taking to court over this ..
They are using textures from a 10 years old orbyx release ..
Disgusting
This lazy shit from Orbx is not good enough. Not buying any more of their crap.
This is not cool , Orbx should be shot for this !!!!