Okay so today I moved some stuff on my desk and Put the Push on a Gibraltar Rack and plugged it in USB only. Now it works the way it does in the video except for 0:06. I am on a Mac 10.8.5, Ableton Live Suite 9.1.
it would be awesome if you made a deeper tutorial on how you mapped the pads and the process behind choosing proper notes that make up your sound design. Also is it possible create separate tempos/rhythms for the different rows? It would be cool to see this work across multiple genres.
Thanks man! The way to think about the pads is that they aren't "mapped". Each pad sends a specific note. I used a separate chain to grab each note and the repitch to a note in C minor. The lights were trial and error, just changing the notes in the clips and watching what happens on push. If you open the rack and follow the rabbit hole down I think it all make sense. I'm not sure what you mean by different tempos across rows? Options: Use the some of the metronome buttons and map to scenes, and name the scenes "100 BPM" and "127 BPM". Trigger those would now give you two different tempos. Make a clip and render it down, then drop into a simpler. Whatever tempo that is, Live won't time stretch it.
Awesome and so complex. I tried this out and everything I tried works except the instruments don't seem to line up like in the video. They are all over the place? I tried to figure out whats going on but my brain almost exploded. Also noticed the Push Keyboard Control Max device was missing from the MIDI track next to Complextro.
Luciano can you explain a bit more of what's happening? Make sure In your midi prefs pane you need to enable "Push User Port" for accessing track and remote.
Sorry about that! It is not integral to anything working, it's a Max 4 Live device that allows you to automate the pitch bend on a macro knob. Just delete it's shell from the 2nd track, save, and it shouldn't bother you anymore.
No worries, Jeffrey! Thank You so much for this. I've learned a lot about how Push's user mode from this. I had some trouble setting it up, at first. Because of that, though, I got a lot of good experience tracing ins & outs and Push parameters. Great job!!!!
I got this thing working except the lights. When I push the user button, the sounds are all in the right place but the Push shows nothing lit up. I switched everything to on in the MIDI preferences, what did I do wrong?
Jeffrey Heart No, I didn't. How do I do that? I just checked under my MIDI prefs and I only have an Input and Output of Ableton Push (Port 2) and not one of Ableton Push (User Port) like everybody else seems to have.
I don't know why I can't reply to Paul Mckeon, but I've reuploaded a file that removes all suite instruments and the Push Keyboard control device. Not sure what you mean Paul by the instruments don't lineup?
it plays some notes from each of the six instruments in each color. So going vertical in orange the first note is bass, the second one is poly 1, the third one is lead and etc. In other words all of the orange should be bass and it isn't. They go sort of diagonal so there is a pattern, but not the intended one. There is also overlap. Playing two instruments from one pad. Likewise the new file. I've been checking out the PXT Live Plus Beta and noticed that someone posted this video to the forum. I have two Google accounts so I might be logged into a different one each time.
Paul McKeon I can't reply to your other comment, but it sounds like it's working except for one part? The part that starts it? Also you can't run PXT live and this at the same time. Just an fyi
Jeffrey Heart Yes it is working great. Very useful information. Seeing how you did the colors is outstanding. The only thing I don't get is the way you start the whole thing rolling at 0:06 in the video where you press the upper left pad and the music starts. The problem seemed to be the note mapper was on each instrument? Maybe, but I don't know how to duplicate the problem now that it works. Thanks for making this and keep up the good work.
Okay, now I see what I was doing wrong. I had the Push user port set as a control surface. All I should have done was left the Push Live port as the Control Surface and turned the Push User MIDI Ports on.
dude this is such a killer setup. never had more fun with Push + Komplete. opens up a lot of new possibilities for live performance. Props
Okay so today I moved some stuff on my desk and Put the Push on a Gibraltar Rack and plugged it in USB only. Now it works the way it does in the video except for 0:06. I am on a Mac 10.8.5, Ableton Live Suite 9.1.
f*cking clever done. I'm learning with this project a lot
I appreciate that. thanks!
Really cool idea! Thanks for the video!
thanks much!
can you put out a video for the initial setup process.. this thing is making my push just go crazy...
This is awesome!!! You should do another video on this!!!
it would be awesome if you made a deeper tutorial on how you mapped the pads and the process behind choosing proper notes that make up your sound design. Also is it possible create separate tempos/rhythms for the different rows? It would be cool to see this work across multiple genres.
Thanks man! The way to think about the pads is that they aren't "mapped". Each pad sends a specific note. I used a separate chain to grab each note and the repitch to a note in C minor. The lights were trial and error, just changing the notes in the clips and watching what happens on push. If you open the rack and follow the rabbit hole down I think it all make sense.
I'm not sure what you mean by different tempos across rows?
Options:
Use the some of the metronome buttons and map to scenes, and name the scenes "100 BPM" and "127 BPM". Trigger those would now give you two different tempos.
Make a clip and render it down, then drop into a simpler. Whatever tempo that is, Live won't time stretch it.
when i am hitting the pads its not really chaining the sounds.. I'm going to try it again and see
Awesome and so complex. I tried this out and everything I tried works except the instruments don't seem to line up like in the video. They are all over the place? I tried to figure out whats going on but my brain almost exploded. Also noticed the Push Keyboard Control Max device was missing from the MIDI track next to Complextro.
Luciano can you explain a bit more of what's happening? Make sure In your midi prefs pane you need to enable "Push User Port" for accessing track and remote.
What is Push Keyboard Control2.amxd?
I'm getting a "Media files are missing" error.
Sorry about that! It is not integral to anything working, it's a Max 4 Live device that allows you to automate the pitch bend on a macro knob. Just delete it's shell from the 2nd track, save, and it shouldn't bother you anymore.
No worries, Jeffrey!
Thank You so much for this. I've learned a lot about how Push's user mode from this.
I had some trouble setting it up, at first. Because of that, though, I got a lot of good experience tracing ins & outs and Push parameters.
Great job!!!!
Updated the file for ya
oh lol never mind got it!
I got this thing working except the lights. When I push the user button, the sounds are all in the right place but the Push shows nothing lit up. I switched everything to on in the MIDI preferences, what did I do wrong?
I'm not sure man... Did you send the channel for the lights to the push?
Jeffrey Heart
No, I didn't. How do I do that? I just checked under my MIDI prefs and I only have an Input and Output of Ableton Push (Port 2) and not one of Ableton Push (User Port) like everybody else seems to have.
I don't know why I can't reply to Paul Mckeon, but I've reuploaded a file that removes all suite instruments and the Push Keyboard control device.
Not sure what you mean Paul by the instruments don't lineup?
it plays some notes from each of the six instruments in each color. So going vertical in orange the first note is bass, the second one is poly 1, the third one is lead and etc. In other words all of the orange should be bass and it isn't. They go sort of diagonal so there is a pattern, but not the intended one. There is also overlap. Playing two instruments from one pad. Likewise the new file.
I've been checking out the PXT Live Plus Beta and noticed that someone posted this video to the forum. I have two Google accounts so I might be logged into a different one each time.
Paul McKeon
I can't reply to your other comment, but it sounds like it's working except for one part? The part that starts it?
Also you can't run PXT live and this at the same time. Just an fyi
Jeffrey Heart Yes it is working great. Very useful information. Seeing how you did the colors is outstanding. The only thing I don't get is the way you start the whole thing rolling at 0:06 in the video where you press the upper left pad and the music starts.
The problem seemed to be the note mapper was on each instrument? Maybe, but I don't know how to duplicate the problem now that it works. Thanks for making this and keep up the good work.
Okay, now I see what I was doing wrong. I had the Push user port set as a control surface. All I should have done was left the Push Live port as the Control Surface and turned the Push User MIDI Ports on.
I don't have a Push (yet) but very interesting video!
Hey man anyway to get this still, the link is broken.
Very cool and very confusing.