"when I drove the modern cars and they slide a little bit sideways, you think about the stopwatch. when these slide sideways, you think about hospital food." Thank you Martin
Who would have thought when filming the Rush segment that the car’s owner would end up being the man responsible for getting McLaren back to the front of the field.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Zak Brown is indeed doing a great job, but they're not back at the front. At least, not yet. Although it is still possible that their upward trajectory won't continue, and they'll plummet down the order again.
About a year ago, Lewis was asked about drug testing in F1 & had this to say: “Drug testing is random, I would say it is around three times a year maybe or maybe less... There used to be a point where there was quite a bit of testing away from the track, back home or in hotels, that sort of thing. But honestly, this is not a sport where you need to do anything... It is not like in cycling where you need more blood flowing through the heart or more oxygen. We are not fatiguing. In all honesty, the cars are not hard enough to drive... It should be more physical. I think in 2021, they maybe need to get rid of power steering, for example. We should be massively depleted afterwards. That’s how sport should be...” I recall more than a few comments along the lines of "Trade the Merc for a Williams then"... many comments suggesting Lewis was just mad Verstappen was let in early & was snapping at his heels, as well as loads of other nonsense... but here we are a year later & Karun is saying the same thing & it's sage advice with near universal approval.
I think that would be a massively interesting change though I think the Williams comments are more so there to say, "Well, yeah, it's easy to say things are too easy when you're at the tippy top for half a decade give or take", which I think is something to consider.
OH OH OH OH DONT GET ME STARTED ON DRUGS IN F1. have you watched Icarus on Netflix about the Russian drug scandal about the Olympics? The Russian guy who helped them cheat and helped many other sports. In it he mentions F1 and how he helps them. Literally just a second worth of clip and then nothing more is said about it. There's definitely performance enhancing drugs in F1. They help with reaction times and recovery massively
Karun is great (was he even in the first two segments? Haha!) and I'm glad for these compilations showing me older segments I've never seen before. I'd always love to see more insight into his Williams heritage work; it seems like Karun and Brundle are the two living drivers with the most experience in a wide variety of historic F1 machinery?
Great feature! 24:48 the only problem with this is that once you've built and used such a perfect racecar you can't go backwards, the standard has been set and the monstrous analogue cars of the past are done
Great video! I so agree with your point about modern racing cars being to perfect and to "easy" to drive compared to generations before. The driver has become a less important factor...
@@lukestarkiller7757 that's not how F1 works though.....F1 is always about which teams can made the best engineering innovation, although back in the days drivers also plays a factor.
@@jeremyg2236 I do know how F1 works all I'm saying it would make it more interesting to have a kind of level playing field with driver skill having a lot to do with the out come and not who has the biggest budget.
Back in the day, I remember Hunt just turned up at the track. A team principal famously described his preparations as "champagne and Marlboros and shagging,". Ayrton, Schuey and a few others had fitness trainers but nothing like those of today.
no way. look at cevert or ayrton senna. they were from 2 different eras and where on a whole dofferent level than todays drivers that only need to work out their neck. todays drivers are all skinny because they dont need to muscle the car to control it. of course there were a couple drivers who didnt care that much but james hunt for example wasnt skinny but he did have a muscular physique
Really good to see your reactions to the Merc. I often wonder what it would be like if I was given the opportunity. I am an armchair specialist. The years of training did not go to waste.
Accurate analysis. F1 should be the pinnacle, and the cars need to be wrestled with, even for these professional drivers they should be fighting and taming their car.
and how are engineering supposed to do that with modern technologies right now? all I can think of is remove power steering, remove traction, remove semi-automatic gear shift, make it less downforce. But the car will be slow..... care to elaborate?
Jerry Gilbert since 2009, I’m sure they haven’t used traction control. However I agree with you. Many believe the cars are easy because people like Brundle, Chandock ex racers can jump in and drive the car. They drive the car but I’m sure for 1/10 the time and speed current F1 drivers are doing. Jeremy Clarkson tried a discount Lotus F1 car in 2010 and he was terrified of the machine. That’s coming from someone who’s been driving professionally for 40+ years
@@PatTalisman I mean modern F1 cars is bloody fast compared to old cars. The G force is insane, not even comparable to old cars. They're practically fighter jets on the ground. Whoever said modern F1 cars is easy to drive doesn't know what are they talking about.
@@PatTalisman - you surely didn't compare Jeremy Clarkson being terrified in a Lotus to ex-F1 drivers like Brundle and Chandok driving F1 cars with ease as a reason why F1 appears "easy?" Even if Clarkson has 40+ years driving experience that's like comparing a crop duster pilot whose had 40+ years experience suddenly being given an F22 or a RAF Typhoon and comparing his fright to that of a retired Harrier or Tornado pilot jumping into a modern Typhoon?
People who operate at the highest level of racing and technology are the only ones who can truly appreciate why and how these cars are “so easy” to drive. F1 is about evolving and fine tuning. Easier to mange is just a byproduct of that I guess. Only the drivers those cars are built for can maximize its true potential and explore the scary and dangerous side of it. I know there’s a push to make F1 less complicated and technical and although I know there’s very few who can understand to appreciate that, I find it fascinating that we get to see this high level of competitiveness and engineering. I don’t understand it much myself, but I don’t want it to be dumbed down or limited/regulated in order for me to do so. Also, F1 has always had dominance, I’d say it’s even more accentuated in the past than it is today. It’s just things that would cause variability like “reliability” have been refined to the level of optimal.
I don't get it. I agree that F1 cars nowadays is more easy to drive. But that's because the implementation of electronic devices and tech into the cars, aka technological advancements. So what's better to do? Make it manual gear with no power steering, no traction at all, back to old technologies? Not that I mind, but F1 is about pinnacle of technologies, no?
@@mikailwinters1424 then that's not racing anymore bruh. I'm just saying, modern F1 cars is not as easy to drive as others said. They produce insane amount of G-forces, they're practically fighter jets on the ground with the drivers as their pilots.
Who thinks Brundle deserved to win races in his F1 driving days. In fact he is such a good commentator and bloke a corner at Snetterton was named after him lol
Karun a great job and well talked through clip i do hope you and your family are staying safe. I especially like your thoughts on F1 carss today as opposed to as you sat the BMW 2004 - F1 cars should have a bit of a challenge to driving them. No disrespect to any F1 team just i think the sport has lost its way somewhat. As Martin said in a modern car yiu drift a bit you think of the stopwatch in the 70s F1 cars you thought of ze hospital etc.. cheers Karun and Sky
I disagree with the comment that the formula 1 car should be hard to drive. I know that modern day f1 cars are said to be easy to drive but I do not think that matters much. Just because a car is easy to drive does not mean you can drive it at the limit or get the most out of it consistently. I believe that's what separates the drivers in terms of skill. Take for example the redbull, I am sure it is easy to drive compared to old f1 cars, but driving it at its limit and getting the most out of it is a different story. Gasly can attest to that. And so in the end how easy it is to drive the car really does not matter as it will mean little to nothing it terms of getting the most out of it in terms of qualifying pace and race pace. There is more that goes into it, like the number of factors that drivers have to pay attention to. So in that way I think it is a trade off between the modern era of f1 and the old era. In the old era the cars were much harder to drive but you did not need to deal with a lot of factors when it comes to such things like tyres, temperatures etc. And in the modern era the cars are much easier to drive, but you also have to be clever in terms of managing tyres, temperatures and generally knowing how to drive the car on the limit to get the most out of it pacewise consistently.
Aslong as F1 gets more competitive I'm happy with that, don't want it to go back in terms of technology and development just to make it more interesting for me as all it would do is put drivers at more risk, can still have brilliant racing with cars with a beautiful balance such as the W10, other cars should be pushing to be at the same level, not taking technology off of the mercedes to make it more even
I agree with your views on F1 today. Schoolboys just out of short trousers should be scared shitless by F1 cars. Can you imagine an 18 year old racing that Ferrari?
It means that the power comes on smoothly and progressively, and when you press the gas pedal, you know how much power the engine is going to give you, it's consistent, therefore you have control of the car. Rather than an engine which gives a sudden torque rush when the turbo kicks in, which makes the car difficult to drive and control.
Is Mr Chandhok the most respected F1 driver that never had a chance to compete? He's trusted with championship winning cars from multiple teams that his peers cannot touch. Discuss?
I personally love f1 to death. But a lot of people feel f1 is a shadow of what it once was. From the new (postponed) regulations to cost caps to bringing back V10s to changing the cars completely, people are only seemingly thinking of ways to improve the sport, and often look down upon modern f1. I think that’s a shame because it takes out the enjoyment of watching something you love when you know such an iconic sport is constantly being judged. Just stick to one set of regulations and deal with it😎
I agree with one set of regulations. Look at 2012 that was the fourth year of them regulations and the cars were quite close to each other and it was a fantastic season.
People who say F1 cars are too easy to drive because they’re watching ex racers like Brundle, Chandock get in and drive it well. This is true, they are easy to drive. However, realistically they’re driving at 10% speed of what the current F1 grid can achieve and for a fraction of the time. Hamilton says he loses 5-10kg per race weekend, haha if that doesn’t give you an indication of the stresses their bodies are under then I don’t know what will. These F1 cars since 2017 have become aero/endurance cars especially if you watched all the races, drivers could come on the radio panting for air between sentences.
Karun you rock! Th only Sky presenter I can watch. Also Brundle is not the Gold standard of f1 racer to broadcaster .... Couthard, Hill, Herbert are the Gold standard. Brundle is the brown standard... The guy just repeats himself all the time and these days its like listening to Murray's older years getting stuff wrong and wishing for him to shut tf up
"when I drove the modern cars and they slide a little bit sideways, you think about the stopwatch.
when these slide sideways, you think about hospital food."
Thank you Martin
wonderful humor, cheers you up in these days of doom and gloom...😁
Thats a funny one. Who said this?
@@GWT04 Brundle
They were real boys who drove those!
@G Sav it get you man, cheers! happens to me all the time haha Good day sir
He's a really good guy, he deserved more in his F1 career
He was decent, same can not be said about HRT.
HRT was bad, the best drivers they had were Ricciardo and Chandhok
@@rick.05 That was basically my point.
@@rick.05 What about the cucumber legend that is Narain Karthikheyan! 😂😂
@@sam.s4816 Raghunathan's father
Who would have thought when filming the Rush segment that the car’s owner would end up being the man responsible for getting McLaren back to the front of the field.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Zak Brown is indeed doing a great job, but they're not back at the front. At least, not yet. Although it is still possible that their upward trajectory won't continue, and they'll plummet down the order again.
@@craigsimons9486 True, but getting a Mercedes engine deal again does help!
Really well documented Karun !!! Especially your comment on the status of the sport today. Thank you
Exactly!
About a year ago, Lewis was asked about drug testing in F1 & had this to say:
“Drug testing is random, I would say it is around three times a year maybe or maybe less... There used to be a point where there was quite a bit of testing away from the track, back home or in hotels, that sort of thing. But honestly, this is not a sport where you need to do anything... It is not like in cycling where you need more blood flowing through the heart or more oxygen. We are not fatiguing. In all honesty, the cars are not hard enough to drive... It should be more physical. I think in 2021, they maybe need to get rid of power steering, for example. We should be massively depleted afterwards. That’s how sport should be...”
I recall more than a few comments along the lines of "Trade the Merc for a Williams then"... many comments suggesting Lewis was just mad Verstappen was let in early & was snapping at his heels, as well as loads of other nonsense... but here we are a year later & Karun is saying the same thing & it's sage advice with near universal approval.
I think that would be a massively interesting change though I think the Williams comments are more so there to say, "Well, yeah, it's easy to say things are too easy when you're at the tippy top for half a decade give or take", which I think is something to consider.
Imagine Singapore and Monaco without power steering.
That would be so tiring
OH OH OH OH DONT GET ME STARTED ON DRUGS IN F1. have you watched Icarus on Netflix about the Russian drug scandal about the Olympics? The Russian guy who helped them cheat and helped many other sports. In it he mentions F1 and how he helps them. Literally just a second worth of clip and then nothing more is said about it. There's definitely performance enhancing drugs in F1. They help with reaction times and recovery massively
makingt the races longer is another solution
6:33 nice hand gesture
Karun is great (was he even in the first two segments? Haha!) and I'm glad for these compilations showing me older segments I've never seen before. I'd always love to see more insight into his Williams heritage work; it seems like Karun and Brundle are the two living drivers with the most experience in a wide variety of historic F1 machinery?
Great feature!
24:48 the only problem with this is that once you've built and used such a perfect racecar you can't go backwards, the standard has been set and the monstrous analogue cars of the past are done
Well said
This was awesome, Karun is an awesome dude.
The problem with the drs is that when its opened, the massive hand just blocked every bit of air that could have gone through lol
Absolutely agree with karun that f1 is too easy
That's right!
But I think this allows for the cars to be faster that they’ve ever been. Quite a nice trade off to be honest
@@adolfotolentino6063 Not for the spectators.
@@adolfotolentino6063 yeah right.. but idont think its moore excidet for drivers ..
Stephen So spectators don’t care about seeing the fastest cars on the planet?
Thank you very much Karun. That Ferrari looked insane!
Great serie of videos! Creative content with a different perspective of what you guys do during the events around the world 👍🏻
“WE GOT AEYR! WE GOT AEYR!”
Great video! I so agree with your point about modern racing cars being to perfect and to "easy" to drive compared to generations before. The driver has become a less important factor...
very very true.
It would make it more interesting if all the cars were equal in performance and aerodynamics. This would show the true values of all the drivers.
@@lukestarkiller7757 that's not how F1 works though.....F1 is always about which teams can made the best engineering innovation, although back in the days drivers also plays a factor.
@@jeremyg2236 I do know how F1 works all I'm saying it would make it more interesting to have a kind of level playing field with driver skill having a lot to do with the out come and not who has the biggest budget.
@@lukestarkiller7757 if you want to see where everything is equal then watch F2 or IndyCar.
F1 is easier in terms of racing and handling probably, but the standard of fitness of the drivers in F1 has increased a lot. A lot.
Back in the day, I remember Hunt just turned up at the track. A team principal famously described his preparations as "champagne and Marlboros and shagging,". Ayrton, Schuey and a few others had fitness trainers but nothing like those of today.
no way. look at cevert or ayrton senna. they were from 2 different eras and where on a whole dofferent level than todays drivers that only need to work out their neck. todays drivers are all skinny because they dont need to muscle the car to control it. of course there were a couple drivers who didnt care that much but james hunt for example wasnt skinny but he did have a muscular physique
@@fmxpro11 I heard he had lots of exercise
@@amsterdamG2G Yeah! Staying up late and fucking the women after drinks..
Really good to see your reactions to the Merc. I often wonder what it would be like if I was given the opportunity. I am an armchair specialist. The years of training did not go to waste.
The soapbox car looks like it was made from a FSAE / Formula Student frame
20:29 the round DUCT secret to Mecedes winning world titles
Karun, sir, you have turned into one of my very favorite F1 commentators. Thanks for all the hard work and I look forward to your next!
Lol cool segment :] especially the soapbox race 😆
Ted in ridiculous costume : Horner
Christian : Lemon
Hilarious banter guys😂😂😂
Accurate analysis. F1 should be the pinnacle, and the cars need to be wrestled with, even for these professional drivers they should be fighting and taming their car.
and how are engineering supposed to do that with modern technologies right now? all I can think of is remove power steering, remove traction, remove semi-automatic gear shift, make it less downforce. But the car will be slow.....
care to elaborate?
Jerry Gilbert since 2009, I’m sure they haven’t used traction control. However I agree with you. Many believe the cars are easy because people like Brundle, Chandock ex racers can jump in and drive the car. They drive the car but I’m sure for 1/10 the time and speed current F1 drivers are doing. Jeremy Clarkson tried a discount Lotus F1 car in 2010 and he was terrified of the machine. That’s coming from someone who’s been driving professionally for 40+ years
@@PatTalisman I mean modern F1 cars is bloody fast compared to old cars. The G force is insane, not even comparable to old cars. They're practically fighter jets on the ground. Whoever said modern F1 cars is easy to drive doesn't know what are they talking about.
@@PatTalisman - you surely didn't compare Jeremy Clarkson being terrified in a Lotus to ex-F1 drivers like Brundle and Chandok driving F1 cars with ease as a reason why F1 appears "easy?"
Even if Clarkson has 40+ years driving experience that's like comparing a crop duster pilot whose had 40+ years experience suddenly being given an F22 or a RAF Typhoon and comparing his fright to that of a retired Harrier or Tornado pilot jumping into a modern Typhoon?
People who operate at the highest level of racing and technology are the only ones who can truly appreciate why and how these cars are “so easy” to drive. F1 is about evolving and fine tuning. Easier to mange is just a byproduct of that I guess. Only the drivers those cars are built for can maximize its true potential and explore the scary and dangerous side of it. I know there’s a push to make F1 less complicated and technical and although I know there’s very few who can understand to appreciate that, I find it fascinating that we get to see this high level of competitiveness and engineering. I don’t understand it much myself, but I don’t want it to be dumbed down or limited/regulated in order for me to do so. Also, F1 has always had dominance, I’d say it’s even more accentuated in the past than it is today. It’s just things that would cause variability like “reliability” have been refined to the level of optimal.
Enjoyed that, thank you
Omg they went to snetterton it’s my local track
Yeah me too!
I live 5 mins away from there
I live 4 miles away
I love to drive there in Project Cars 2. Awesome track
@@insertname8506 ah that's nice to hear
great content Karun.. very interesting, looking forward to the next one. 👏
Brilliant. Enjoyed seeing that 👍🏻
Karun you are MEGA, my favourite broadcaster keep it up dude!
04:53 Go Johnny! Go! Go! :)))
Great Job Karun, keep up the Great Work. Stay Safe
I don't get it. I agree that F1 cars nowadays is more easy to drive. But that's because the implementation of electronic devices and tech into the cars, aka technological advancements.
So what's better to do? Make it manual gear with no power steering, no traction at all, back to old technologies?
Not that I mind, but F1 is about pinnacle of technologies, no?
but where does this technology end? within time we might as well make f1 cars use autopilot like teslas if its about tech that much.
@@mikailwinters1424 then that's not racing anymore bruh. I'm just saying, modern F1 cars is not as easy to drive as others said. They produce insane amount of G-forces, they're practically fighter jets on the ground with the drivers as their pilots.
This video was awesome.. but I miss f1 .. it's like I don't what 2 do on Sundays..
Karun is a great driver!
Who thinks Brundle deserved to win races in his F1 driving days.
In fact he is such a good commentator and bloke a corner at Snetterton was named after him lol
Great stuff karun
Hi Karen, I enjoyed your video. Glad to see you are well.
skysports f1 + primal scream ? i like
Keep them coming
Karun a great job and well talked through clip i do hope you and your family are staying safe. I especially like your thoughts on F1 carss today as opposed to as you sat the BMW 2004 - F1 cars should have a bit of a challenge to driving them. No disrespect to any F1 team just i think the sport has lost its way somewhat. As Martin said in a modern car yiu drift a bit you think of the stopwatch in the 70s F1 cars you thought of ze hospital etc.. cheers Karun and Sky
Alexandra Palace is the holy grale of Darts
I disagree with the comment that the formula 1 car should be hard to drive. I know that modern day f1 cars are said to be easy to drive but I do not think that matters much. Just because a car is easy to drive does not mean you can drive it at the limit or get the most out of it consistently. I believe that's what separates the drivers in terms of skill. Take for example the redbull, I am sure it is easy to drive compared to old f1 cars, but driving it at its limit and getting the most out of it is a different story. Gasly can attest to that. And so in the end how easy it is to drive the car really does not matter as it will mean little to nothing it terms of getting the most out of it in terms of qualifying pace and race pace. There is more that goes into it, like the number of factors that drivers have to pay attention to. So in that way I think it is a trade off between the modern era of f1 and the old era. In the old era the cars were much harder to drive but you did not need to deal with a lot of factors when it comes to such things like tyres, temperatures etc. And in the modern era the cars are much easier to drive, but you also have to be clever in terms of managing tyres, temperatures and generally knowing how to drive the car on the limit to get the most out of it pacewise consistently.
He got to try the 2020 Force India car before anyone from Force India
😂😂😂😂
embrace the lemons...LOL...classic JH and Ted
Aslong as F1 gets more competitive I'm happy with that, don't want it to go back in terms of technology and development just to make it more interesting for me as all it would do is put drivers at more risk, can still have brilliant racing with cars with a beautiful balance such as the W10, other cars should be pushing to be at the same level, not taking technology off of the mercedes to make it more even
Christian Horner has gotten better looking with age. good on u chap
Wait a second. Zak Brown owns a Ferrari F1 car? Nikis car? Isn't that a fireable offense while working for McLaren?
Hope Chandhok to end his long sabbatical and return to F1 for next season.
Loved that Karun, very jealous ...
Cool cool cool!
lol Lazenby and his people skills..
That is not our national anthem, It is from the legend John de Bever.
The pride of The Netherlands
Love how Jh plays this jovial character on tv because let me tell you out of the limelight he is nothing like it.
why so?
Cool! So skip the first two parts! Thanks!
I agree with your views on F1 today. Schoolboys just out of short trousers should be scared shitless by F1 cars. Can you imagine an 18 year old racing that Ferrari?
Can someone explain what a "driveable engine" means?.
It means that the power comes on smoothly and progressively, and when you press the gas pedal, you know how much power the engine is going to give you, it's consistent, therefore you have control of the car. Rather than an engine which gives a sudden torque rush when the turbo kicks in, which makes the car difficult to drive and control.
Lmao he deserves to drive them after suffering from the 2010 HRT
yes, the Sweet KArma!
Is Mr Chandhok the most respected F1 driver that never had a chance to compete? He's trusted with championship winning cars from multiple teams that his peers cannot touch. Discuss?
12:32 Lauda didn't win in 74, it was 75, at least read wikipedia🙄
Martin says it's a race-winning car from '74, he never says Lauda won the title that year.
@@knightad33 well, now i feel stupid haha, but you are right man nice🤙🏻
I personally love f1 to death. But a lot of people feel f1 is a shadow of what it once was. From the new (postponed) regulations to cost caps to bringing back V10s to changing the cars completely, people are only seemingly thinking of ways to improve the sport, and often look down upon modern f1. I think that’s a shame because it takes out the enjoyment of watching something you love when you know such an iconic sport is constantly being judged. Just stick to one set of regulations and deal with it😎
I agree with one set of regulations.
Look at 2012 that was the fourth year of them regulations and the cars were quite close to each other and it was a fantastic season.
Karum Karum look there man hahahahaha
Give Karun his own segment during the actual season already.
Stop it Brundle and Chandhok... u r both making me jealous
People who say F1 cars are too easy to drive because they’re watching ex racers like Brundle, Chandock get in and drive it well. This is true, they are easy to drive. However, realistically they’re driving at 10% speed of what the current F1 grid can achieve and for a fraction of the time. Hamilton says he loses 5-10kg per race weekend, haha if that doesn’t give you an indication of the stresses their bodies are under then I don’t know what will. These F1 cars since 2017 have become aero/endurance cars especially if you watched all the races, drivers could come on the radio panting for air between sentences.
Thats not our national anthem 😂😂
Boring me shitless! To put it mildly!!!!!
Karun you rock! Th only Sky presenter I can watch. Also Brundle is not the Gold standard of f1 racer to broadcaster .... Couthard, Hill, Herbert are the Gold standard. Brundle is the brown standard... The guy just repeats himself all the time and these days its like listening to Murray's older years getting stuff wrong and wishing for him to shut tf up
I'd prefer to see less of Johnnys junk to be honest.
He in Sky F-1 team, like dog's fifth leg. 😂 Wtf he is doing there??? He is out of picture, comparing with others like Crofty and etc.