One of the very best talks on this fascinating question - I highly recommend Winkler's book Shakespeare Was A Woman and Other Heresies (the audiobook reading of it by Eunice Wong is excellent too).
The first question should be, "where did all of those new words come from which were never used previously in English literature before the publication of the First Folio?". There was a sudden dump of new words into the English language from a more advanced doner language in the form of a bi-lingual dictionary published in 1611. Who better to use these new words in the final revision of the plays published in 1623 than the author of the new dictionary? Where better to look for new words than in a newly published dictionary? The plays were a hodge podge collaboration by everyone's favorite dandy until a very talented and multicultural author and translator of foreign books cleaned up the mess and created the voice of Shakespeare. Only one man qualifies as the revisor coauthor of the as published 1623 version of the First Folio, John Florio.. I would expect that all of these brilliant scholars should be able to grasp the concept that a word must first exist in a language before it can then be used in the literature of that language. Queen Anne's New World of Words is the demarcation line, first came the words and then came the literature. The as published version of the plays could have only been written after 1611, you know, when the words were actually available for use. This means that Oxford who died in 1604 could have only been a collaborator on earlier versions. Simple, right?
Eventually, AI will be able to examine the writings of all the "suspects" ,,,this will be a watershed moment for literature, and AI sentient intelligence.... PS - old school hypothesis suggested the Strafford man William Shakspere was THE 'front man' - a person who may have befriended the nobles like Bacon, Oxford, and even Marlowe (posthumously) , set up a theater, and helped the nobles stage their plays to the Public anonymously...
what are the other heresies. one i'd definitely include is questioning whether jesus was a historical person. a question which the increasing numbers heretical sceptics of the mainstream orthodoxy also appear to be entirely correct about.
excellent talk. Elizabeth Winkler is witty and informative!
Elizabeth, you go girl! Bravo!
mesmerised , well done Elizabeth
This was such a lovely talk, thank you for sharing
One of the very best talks on this fascinating question - I highly recommend Winkler's book Shakespeare Was A Woman and Other Heresies (the audiobook reading of it by Eunice Wong is excellent too).
The first question should be, "where did all of those new words come from which were never used previously in English literature before the publication of the First Folio?". There was a sudden dump of new words into the English language from a more advanced doner language in the form of a bi-lingual dictionary published in 1611. Who better to use these new words in the final revision of the plays published in 1623 than the author of the new dictionary? Where better to look for new words than in a newly published dictionary? The plays were a hodge podge collaboration by everyone's favorite dandy until a very talented and multicultural author and translator of foreign books cleaned up the mess and created the voice of Shakespeare. Only one man qualifies as the revisor coauthor of the as published 1623 version of the First Folio, John Florio.. I would expect that all of these brilliant scholars should be able to grasp the concept that a word must first exist in a language before it can then be used in the literature of that language. Queen Anne's New World of Words is the demarcation line, first came the words and then came the literature. The as published version of the plays could have only been written after 1611, you know, when the words were actually available for use. This means that Oxford who died in 1604 could have only been a collaborator on earlier versions. Simple, right?
Eventually, AI will be able to examine the writings of all the "suspects" ,,,this will be a watershed moment for literature, and AI sentient intelligence....
PS - old school hypothesis suggested the Strafford man William Shakspere was THE 'front man' - a person who may have befriended the nobles like Bacon, Oxford, and even Marlowe (posthumously) , set up a theater, and helped the nobles stage their plays to the Public anonymously...
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Winkker is fantastic. I believe fully Skakespeare did NOT write the 37 plays attributed to him. Earl of Oxford wrote all or most of them!
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what are the other heresies. one i'd definitely include is questioning whether jesus was a historical person. a question which the increasing numbers heretical sceptics of the mainstream orthodoxy also appear to be entirely correct about.
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