After 2 Years living with the Harvey Gyro..
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- This video is about dust collection, noise, static pressure, and airflow. After two years using the Harvey G800, I'm ready to review it and tell you how I think it compares to traditional cyclones.
I've seen many videos with "soft" reviews of the Gyro but I couldn't get enough information when I decided to go from a short gone to the G800 instead of the Oneida. Well after 2 years of use, the verdict is in. If you have wondered how these might perform in the real world, I try to answer all the questions.
Let me also say that I fixed as many errors as I could find but I'm sure I got some things wrong, so I apologize in advance, I'm only human. Please note any corrections in comments and I'll flag them for others.
I would avoid Dust Right models from Rockler. based on my personal experience in value for cost.
Harvey:
Specifically the G700 has the nicest mix of value, suction and shape.
Gyro Series www.harveywoodworking.com/col...
3HP Short Cones:
Both of these products are short cones but mobile. There are many more in the same basic setup with various features including PowerMatic (with a HEPA filter and Agitator). I would be surprised if they all didn't come from the same couple of factories in China.
Jet: jettools.com/jcdc-3-cyclone-d...
Shop Fox: www.grizzly.com/products/shop...
Long Cones:
Both of these brands are high quality American made and of similar design.
Oneida: www.oneida-air.com/
ClearVue: www.clearvuecyclones.com/
Also worth looking at for smaller shops that need portability:
Oneida Super Cell (very high pressure)
www.oneida-air.com/dust-colle...
Oneida Mini Gorilla (very portable)
www.oneida-air.com/dust-colle...
Feel free to post comments with collectors you have found excellent.
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good points on the 3 phase and VFD. Most people don't understand the benefits of a 3 phase motor and VFD. besides being a longer lasting motor, the ability to "soft start" the motor, (the VFD is programed invariably to start the motor a bit softer and can usually be adjusted to be more or less delay) is very important for small shops that are close to their limit in power. The soft start makes the surge (inrush) power MUCH smaller and much less likely to trip breakers.
Very informative video ... Thank you
Super helpful! Thank you. I think this is the best video I've found comparing the G800 with relevant Oneida options. For some reason, there's almost nothing on YT about the G800. Yeah, the Harvey marketing scheme is pretty annoying.
So glad someone found it helpful! Are you in the market for a new dust collector? Curious to know what you end up buying and why.
@@pixelwoodworks Yes! I have been stuck b/w Harvey's Gyro Options (G700 & G800) vs Oneida's Supercell Turbo or Dust Gorilla Pro. I've been finishing up my building, so I'll have to decide this summer. The issues that have prevented me from pulling the trigger on the Supercell Turbo so far are the noise and the limitations on future expansion.
@@leevee85 Sounds like you have all the information. I'd be curious what you end up doing in the end and how it works out.
Very thankful for this information “
Great to hear some feedback on this. Were you/are you/did you consider one?
@@pixelwoodworks for sure in the future
I will be looking up,
Thanks again “
Do you have any thoughts on the ramp-up time for the Harveys? I've heard that it can be irritating
Solid review. How did you get the ivac to work with the Harvey? When I turn off the ivac it shuts the power to the Harvey and then when it comes back on it doesn’t turn on the motor just the control panel. Is there some way to work around the power/control panel issue?
Great video with some real information. I would like to see how the Felder RL160 would stack up. Pricing is similar and the specs are close.
Hi, thanks for the feedback. There are a lot of options out there, I thought most people would be looking at the short and long cone cyclones. Before I purchased the G800 and when I had a 3HP short cone, I looked wide and deep, including the RL160. Its been two years now so I can't remember exactly the issues, but it probably had something to do with size, pressure, and cleaning (or what I read people saying about filters clogging since its a manual bag system). So I had narrowed it down to a Cyclone of some sort because filter cleaning is no bueno. I was also enamored at the time with the AL-KO. I saw them at IWF as well, gorgeous units, but at the time I couldn't even get someone to respond. They are repped by Martin USA who has since gotten a new sales manager.
Cleaning the filter stack on the Felder is definitely a pain. If you fill up the catchment bin more than 80% you're basically guaranteed a filter clog.
@@SteveKuznetsovi can only imagine the pain.
Im getting Napoleon Dynamite flashbacks
@4:16 like this comment if you have high static pressure
The only thing that's high is my blood pressure :o
Feels so discriminating how he talks about stuff being chinese. Shame on you
Your finding bias where there is none.. American made woodworking equipment has historically been of the highest quality and as American manufacturers have moved oversees, the quality has gone downhill. I'm sure this has nothing to do with ability but competing on cost. This is the reality of todays environment, and, my point is, Harvey is a Chinese company making woodworking equipment that is of the highest quality.
@@pixelwoodworks I have a shop full of old American made and some newer European made machinery, there is a huge difference, people think the stuff made in asia these days is good, its not, it's lightweight and the castings are not the same they don't season them anymore over there
@@pixelwoodworks Perhaps that is what you do feel, and good for you, but you do say that "it is not what you'd expect from a Chinese company". I understand that you don't feel biased, but, just trying to convince others that their bias should be changed... but you see the point. Words matter.
I've worked for 30 years, (retired now) in Chinese companies. Started in 1980. They were used to making very poor quality. But the market DEMANDED that they make poor quality! Why? because most American (and other) companies went to them and asked for "CHEAPER". I wanted quality from them, and after a couple of years of work, got it. They certainly CAN produce high quality products. (your IPhones are likely built there, as well as many other tech components. The best battery makers, PV panels, etc are made there.) I remember when "made in Japan" was an indication of "cheap junk". Just saying that it is NOT the Chinese that are the reason that products from China are poor quality. It is Consumers and customers, (companies) in the rest of the world that are demanding it be cheap!