I just drove a John Deere with that same engine today, a 435, it's not to terrible loud, at least for 2 stroke standards, but it still makes your ears ring And if there's no oil under them, then there's no oil in them
Thanks, Periscope! I've herded a lot of Deere equipment but none quite that old. I liked the removable hoes on the loaders best BUT I could run a 4-lever Ford just as good as a wobble stick rig. All the companies puff and blow BUT it's whoever sits in the SEAT that gets the job done. Brand not withstanding! Thanks again!
@ Is the 5550 the big 4x4 rig? They are NICE and a 4-lever is a simple rig, sure. I like something that just does what it's supposed to do. And you can't have baby hands for a 4-lever!
@ 10/4 on the Ford. I got to run a Dynahoe at the local DuPont plant. I really liked it but I didn't do much hoe work but wore the bucket out on the front. The 53 series GM/Detroit was just FINE with me!
@ The same happened to the paper mill. It was bled dry and then scrapped. BUT what goes around comes around. It might take a while but THAT never fails.
Anybody else notice the guy with a shovel in the 8' deep 2'wide trench with vertical walls, no shoring and the spoil pile right on the edge? Different times I guess.
My father ran the only JD industrial dealership in our area, from 1960 -1963. My first 3 years of school I took my lunch in John Deer parts bags. Teenga Tractor, East Ridge Tennessee. They lost their lease. There is a motel on that lot now. I still have two items that were painted JD green from their shop.
My grandfather worked for a dealership in Franklin CT back in the 70. 80s He was there truck driver When the place was closed on Sundays he would take me there and let me drive the different tractors around
For my whole life, I've been seeing these types of machines sitting abandoned in old lots and behind old sheds, down to the rusted metal and so sun-faded that they're pretty much white. Seeing these in color, when they were brand new, being used, is actually a bizarre and somewhat unexplainable feeling.
I remember John Deere industrial equipment dealers from 1953 till 1990. John P Halpin and sons lost the industrial line in late 1970. Continued with farm and consumer products till 90 .Deere and Co industrial equipment was I consider good for the times.
I'm sad that they didn't show the 840 in operation. My dad has one and it is a big scraper for only being a two cylinder tractor. The R to the 840 have a very lovely deep sound sound when they are running.
Yes,James, I was also looking forward to see the 840 in this vid. My favourite Jonny of all times ! I don`t think there is one in Europe. And you really do have one in your family ?? Lucky man !
@@novembaer69 Yes, my dad has one. He saw it setting at a house several years ago. My now deceased grandfather was going to build a pond on a farm so that gave him a reason to buy it. They ended up having someone with a large cat earth mover and dozer build it instead. I think they had a hard time with traction on the 840 plus the learning curve of running a scraper. This was back when I was young so there might have been other reasons too. It has sat at that farm since then. We don't have a trailer large enough to move it so it has to be driven. The 840 is one of the most interesting two cylinder tractors in my opinion. It's just very large and cumbersome. I don't really talk to my dad about it because out of sight, out of mind. I don't want him to sell it but then again I don't know what I would do with it. There use to be a website that had a couple of pictures that I submitted to on there. If it is still active I'll post a link later. johnnypopper.com/weirddeere/840PICPAGE.html If you start at the top left and count it is in pictures # 24 ,25, & 26. (These were actually taken at the pond when it was almost finished.)
Brenda Proffitt That’s ok.’m not really sure on the prices. My dad does construction and I work for him and he has a JD midsize backhoe from this dealer and like I said their attitude and customer service sucked. When the tractor needed work they’d also keep it for a month to a month and a half and not even fix the problem and since it was our only tractor he owned we’d loose major money.I think most of the problem is because we live in a agriculture driven part of California and this dealer only seemed to have ag tractors and pumps and no construction equipment and they didn’t care about us because of that and I remember actually saying that we don’t have 20-30 tractors to spare like a big farm and they just scoffed. I gave them a good ****you and my dad switched to Kubota. He now has 2 skid steers,2 excavators, all kind of attachments, and even a utility vehicle and little tractor for around our property and they are a sthil dealer too so we also have 3 trimmers,2 chain saws and 5 or 6 cutoff saws. They are fantastic, nice, service everything they sell and the big stuff has yet to actually need a visit to the shop. Although I do love the older JD stuff the dealer turned my dad and I away from them for good as you could tell.
That does it! The next time I need to build a road, dig a massive trench or ruin a forest, I’m going to use a 1959 John Deere industrial product to do it!
davetileguy sir, I’m working on a 300b industrial . I’m trying to see how the grills attach with the springs. I’m also looking for pictures of roll over protection. Can you contact me.
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@@Chevy4x4dawg I think you're right about when they came out. I thought I saw a different scraper in the background and thought it looked like a 5010, that's why I said that. Maybe it was another 830.
Have this on JD DVD with many guys who were Deere then.I am sure this will sure show John Deere chairman William Hewitt with the news Detroit Diesel powered 440
Also I take it Auburn and Hancock were independent companies at one point that Johndeer bought out? I’ve heard and seen pictures of those Auburn trenchers on jeeps but not the other one.
Deere used alot off "speciality" equipment from other manufacturers. Some items then even removed the original manufacturer's name. In the case of Hancock scrapers they bought the Lubbock Texas based company in the early 60s. Which then had to sign a no competition clause.
Caterpillar had a marketing agreement with Mitsubishi in the late 1980s to get their computer controlled hyd pump, with the Caterpillar 3116 engine...Computer controlled the pumps so the excavator worked at 100% efficiency when needed, and then pumped less oil for better fuel economy when not needed..
@@Chevy4x4dawg Hancock scrapers were an independent company making allied equipment for several companys like Euclid, Michigan, Wabco, Allis Chalmers and a host of others. JD was just one of the others.
I’m surprised that they didn’t use their own engines in their dozers. I’m wondering if it was really the reason they said or if it was some other reason and I’m also surprised that backhoes back then had vertical stabilizers as I find they aren’t all that good and that American backhoes have the spread type.
the stabelizers are that way to avoid pattent trouble with jcb. backhoes were really new at that time. the out sourcered engines were used because john deere only made 2 cylinder tractor engines. at the time this came out john deere was brand new in anything other than farming
Eddie Girvan I had no idea that the stabilizer format itself was patented. I would assume JD had the engineering know how to make their own but also seeing how compact the Jimmy was I can understand why they chose it. I’m assuming it was a 2-71? I thought they only started with industrial stuff in the mid 60s and not the late 50s!
Then GM Diesel was a stop gap. 1960 Deere introduced a whole new line of Ag and Industrial equipment with 4 and 6 cylinders. In 1958/59 they did not have a "small" diesel engine o why spend money on R &D and production if it is going to be replaced in a year.
Yes they did. And the one shown in the video is one of the early batch made by Hancock. JD shipped them 830i rolling frames and Hancock did the side saddle and fender conversion. The fenders are all different. JD re-designed it and started making the 840 conversion themselves. They also instituted a program to take in the old Hancock built 840's, revamp them and update them to the newer JD 840 specs. Not very many survivors look like the one in the video, most were rebuilt to the newer JD design.
I have a 51 backhoe mounted in a 1961 2010 diesel. It has a 71 loader. It works actually surprisingly well for being so old. Its on my UA-cam channel. Check it out.
Those two dudes looked really excited about the bouncey seat demo.
I just drove a John Deere with that same engine today, a 435, it's not to terrible loud, at least for 2 stroke standards, but it still makes your ears ring
And if there's no oil under them, then there's no oil in them
Yeah but Detroits were pretty much bulletproof and SO simple to fix and maintain... easier than a lawnmower... Later! OL J R :)
The pipe bender and side crane are awesome!!!
Very Interesting, as a JD sales rep back in the mid 80's I sold a number of those listed units as used units.
Thanks, Periscope! I've herded a lot of Deere equipment but none quite that old. I liked the removable hoes on the loaders best BUT I could run a 4-lever Ford just as good as a wobble stick rig. All the companies puff and blow BUT it's whoever sits in the SEAT that gets the job done. Brand not withstanding! Thanks again!
@ Is the 5550 the big 4x4 rig? They are NICE and a 4-lever is a simple rig, sure. I like something that just does what it's supposed to do. And you can't have baby hands for a 4-lever!
@ 10/4 on the Ford. I got to run a Dynahoe at the local DuPont plant. I really liked it but I didn't do much hoe work but wore the bucket out on the front. The 53 series GM/Detroit was just FINE with me!
@ No, in NC. it's gone now. Made x-ray film. Too bad. Lots of jobs lost when it went. And they will root!
@ THis moronic place thinks it can make it on tourism. They don't want jobs. IDIOTS!
@ The same happened to the paper mill. It was bled dry and then scrapped. BUT what goes around comes around. It might take a while but THAT never fails.
Anybody else notice the guy with a shovel in the 8' deep 2'wide trench with vertical walls, no shoring and the spoil pile right on the edge? Different times I guess.
LOts.
Sometimes people complain about rules and regulations, but things like this show how/why they were started.
yea, but it was his last day of work.
*Moves front loader next to ditch*
"So John, I've heard you were talking to some of the guys about a union. That couldn't be true?"
Still happens today.
My father ran the only JD industrial dealership in our area, from 1960 -1963.
My first 3 years of school I took my lunch in John Deer parts bags.
Teenga Tractor, East Ridge Tennessee.
They lost their lease.
There is a motel on that lot now.
I still have two items that were painted JD green from their shop.
@Joshua Ervin You cared enough to reply, neighbor.
Belies your snarky point.
My grandfather worked for a dealership in Franklin CT back in the 70. 80s He was there truck driver When the place was closed on Sundays he would take me there and let me drive the different tractors around
Ignore the jackhole earlier. Very cool story and history there brother. Cheers
@@chrismanning1746 I envy the experiences you had with the tractors . . . better than going on amusement park rides.
great channel.
For my whole life, I've been seeing these types of machines sitting abandoned in old lots and behind old sheds, down to the rusted metal and so sun-faded that they're pretty much white. Seeing these in color, when they were brand new, being used, is actually a bizarre and somewhat unexplainable feeling.
Neat stuff
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I had a 1960 440 Industrial Crawler with the 2 cylinder gas engine with an outside the track frame blade.
Great JD Industrial Tractor Promo Film. Keep Em Coming 🚜🇺🇸👍
John Deere was a party to one of the most important patent law suits of all time in 1965.
Small crawler loaders- 1950s tracked bobcat!!!
I remember John Deere industrial equipment dealers from 1953 till 1990. John P Halpin and sons lost the industrial line in late 1970. Continued with farm and consumer products till 90 .Deere and Co industrial equipment was I consider good for the times.
I'm sad that they didn't show the 840 in operation. My dad has one and it is a big scraper for only being a two cylinder tractor. The R to the 840 have a very lovely deep sound sound when they are running.
Yes,James, I was also looking forward to see the 840 in this vid. My favourite Jonny of all times ! I don`t think there is one in Europe. And you really do have one in your family ?? Lucky man !
@@novembaer69 Yes, my dad has one. He saw it setting at a house several years ago. My now deceased grandfather was going to build a pond on a farm so that gave him a reason to buy it. They ended up having someone with a large cat earth mover and dozer build it instead. I think they had a hard time with traction on the 840 plus the learning curve of running a scraper. This was back when I was young so there might have been other reasons too. It has sat at that farm since then. We don't have a trailer large enough to move it so it has to be driven. The 840 is one of the most interesting two cylinder tractors in my opinion. It's just very large and cumbersome. I don't really talk to my dad about it because out of sight, out of mind. I don't want him to sell it but then again I don't know what I would do with it. There use to be a website that had a couple of pictures that I submitted to on there. If it is still active I'll post a link later.
johnnypopper.com/weirddeere/840PICPAGE.html
If you start at the top left and count it is in pictures # 24 ,25, & 26. (These were actually taken at the pond when it was almost finished.)
20:30...cable snap...bye, bye head, arm, etc...LOL
Wow this company been around for yrs.they do make some great thing's for farming and other thing's too.great job thank you so much
I wonder how they are now. Our dealer treated us so bad we went to Kubota and never looked back!
@@SquishyZoran wow that's totally. Messed up but prices must be.a big difference to. So sorry that they did that to you
Brenda Proffitt That’s ok.’m not really sure on the prices. My dad does construction and I work for him and he has a JD midsize backhoe from this dealer and like I said their attitude and customer service sucked. When the tractor needed work they’d also keep it for a month to a month and a half and not even fix the problem and since it was our only tractor he owned we’d loose major money.I think most of the problem is because we live in a agriculture driven part of California and this dealer only seemed to have ag tractors and pumps and no construction equipment and they didn’t care about us because of that and I remember actually saying that we don’t have 20-30 tractors to spare like a big farm and they just scoffed. I gave them a good ****you and my dad switched to Kubota. He now has 2 skid steers,2 excavators, all kind of attachments, and even a utility vehicle and little tractor for around our property and they are a sthil dealer too so we also have 3 trimmers,2 chain saws and 5 or 6 cutoff saws. They are fantastic, nice, service everything they sell and the big stuff has yet to actually need a visit to the shop. Although I do love the older JD stuff the dealer turned my dad and I away from them for good as you could tell.
@@SquishyZoran that's so awesome I'm happy for you
Brenda Proffitt Thank you! My dad is very happy as well.
That does it! The next time I need to build a road, dig a massive trench or ruin a forest, I’m going to use a 1959 John Deere industrial product to do it!
we have the 300 industrial backhoe , still going !!
davetileguy sir, I’m working on a 300b industrial . I’m trying to see how the grills attach with the springs. I’m also looking for pictures of roll over protection. Can you contact me.
super !
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Muy bueno
Nooo! They were just getting to the 830 scrapers and then it cut to the end.
Unfortunately -- sometimes the films we receive are not complete. ;
Yeah, they left out the 5010!
5010 was not introduced until 1961 or 62. It was latter than the 3010 / 4010 intro too. In 1959 Deere was still using the two cylinder engines.
@@Chevy4x4dawg I think you're right about when they came out. I thought I saw a different scraper in the background and thought it looked like a 5010, that's why I said that. Maybe it was another 830.
@@wailnshred that was an 840. It pioneered the offset platform for the 5010 and later 760
Have this on JD DVD with many guys who were Deere then.I am sure this will sure show John Deere chairman William Hewitt with the news Detroit Diesel powered 440
At 20:30, if that cable ever let go at either end, that guys chicklets will be gone and his new favorite meal will be broth soup
WHY DID BACKHOES STOP SELLING?
Also I take it Auburn and Hancock were independent companies at one point that Johndeer bought out? I’ve heard and seen pictures of those Auburn trenchers on jeeps but not the other one.
Deere used alot off "speciality" equipment from other manufacturers. Some items then even removed the original manufacturer's name. In the case of Hancock scrapers they bought the Lubbock Texas based company in the early 60s. Which then had to sign a no competition clause.
Chevy4x4dawg that’s interesting.
Caterpillar had a marketing agreement with Mitsubishi in the late 1980s to get their computer controlled hyd pump, with the Caterpillar 3116 engine...Computer controlled the pumps so the excavator worked at 100% efficiency when needed, and then pumped less oil for better fuel economy when not needed..
@@Chevy4x4dawg Hancock scrapers were an independent company making allied equipment for several companys like Euclid, Michigan, Wabco, Allis Chalmers and a host of others. JD was just one of the others.
Until Deere bought the company.
John Deere tractor is big competition for Tonka tractor both are good 🚜🚜
I would like to order the 440 crawler please
I wonder what these cost when new back then
Muy buena calida de maquinas yo tengo una
16:57 u can see big foot behind the form center line 🌲 he's wave at the camera
Right above the letter PF#
PF#:31704 can u see him
I’m surprised that they didn’t use their own engines in their dozers. I’m wondering if it was really the reason they said or if it was some other reason and I’m also surprised that backhoes back then had vertical stabilizers as I find they aren’t all that good and that American backhoes have the spread type.
the stabelizers are that way to avoid pattent trouble with jcb. backhoes were really new at that time.
the out sourcered engines were used because john deere only made 2 cylinder tractor engines.
at the time this came out john deere was brand new in anything other than farming
Eddie Girvan I had no idea that the stabilizer format itself was patented.
I would assume JD had the engineering know how to make their own but also seeing how compact the Jimmy was I can understand why they chose it. I’m assuming it was a 2-71?
I thought they only started with industrial stuff in the mid 60s and not the late 50s!
@@SquishyZoran The Jimmy was a 2-53
Then GM Diesel was a stop gap. 1960 Deere introduced a whole new line of Ag and Industrial equipment with 4 and 6 cylinders. In 1958/59 they did not have a "small" diesel engine o why spend money on R &D and production if it is going to be replaced in a year.
@@Chevy4x4dawg Makes sense!
Wow ... None of the machines have cabs or any sort of roll over protection at all
Wasn't a thing in 1959 .
Sounds like a motorcycle rally
Yeah there Green now cats yellow so not recognised now lol
Skipped the revolutionary 840.
Yes they did. And the one shown in the video is one of the early batch made by Hancock. JD shipped them 830i rolling frames and Hancock did the side saddle and fender conversion. The fenders are all different. JD re-designed it and started making the 840 conversion themselves. They also instituted a program to take in the old Hancock built 840's, revamp them and update them to the newer JD 840 specs. Not very many survivors look like the one in the video, most were rebuilt to the newer JD design.
I have a 51 backhoe mounted in a 1961 2010 diesel. It has a 71 loader. It works actually surprisingly well for being so old. Its on my UA-cam channel. Check it out.
so yellow
With ww1 track running gear in 59! Nah whare my.JCB
**sip**
7
I almost vomited watching this. All those John Deere tractors and not a single one green. BLECH
All commercial tractors and backhoes are yellow now and probably back then also.
Different color scheme and dealer network for Industrial vs Agricultural .
You’re weird.
too bad the company went to shit
Dig those brimmed hard hats. They rule.