The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 678 | Love Bomb

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
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    In the latest episode, the JBP starts by recapping their Thanksgiving (15:43) before turning to Dolly Parton’s halftime performance at the Cowboys game (38:40). A number of additional lawsuits were released to the public throughout the past week (46:05), a debate takes place over the term ‘love bombing’ (1:13:37), and Lupe Fiasco has started to rap over André 3000 flutes (1:32:17). Also, the room debates Sexyy Red’s new song (1:34:58), Kanye West & Ty Dolla $ign drop ‘Vultures’ (1:40:53), God Shammgod responds to Ish (1:54:07), Jeff Teague says Michael Jackson can’t sing (2:06:36), Hall & Oates are in a legal battle (2:18:08), and much more!
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    0:00 - Intro
    15:43 - Thanksgiving recap
    38:40 - Dolly Parton’s halftime performance
    46:05 - New lawsuits
    1:13:37 - ‘love bombing’
    1:32:17 - Lupe Fiasco & André 3000
    1:34:58 - Sexyy Red’s new song
    1:40:53 - Kanye West & Ty Dolla $ign new song
    1:54:07 - God Shammgod responds to Ish
    2:06:36 - Jeff Teague vs Michael Jackson
    2:18:08 - Hall & Oates are in a legal battle
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  • @Eriica12
    @Eriica12 7 місяців тому +192

    Mel dropped the ball with the love bombing segment! So love bombing came about when people do abusive behaviors towards someone, then AFTER comes a wave of affection to essentially reel u back in. Picture an old school sour patch commercial- essentially that is love bombing. Not courting since there wasn’t any abusive behavior prior to the courting.

    • @aj2468
      @aj2468 7 місяців тому +23

      This makes more sense cus I’m listening to her explain like wtf is going on 😂😂😂

    • @toocreami09
      @toocreami09 7 місяців тому +12

      I literally came to the comments to find this! Sometimes she just doesn’t hit the mark. Identifying a love bombing is based on the actions prior and after love bombing. They are thinking of love bombing as a consistent things occurring during a prolonged time frame ie. dating and/or courting. Yeah she def did not explain this accurately.

    • @BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX
      @BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX 7 місяців тому +20

      Lol She tries but they are mad ignorant. Even based off what she said, it's not that difficult to comprehend what she meant. Ish especially is so intellectually inept that he wasn't even trying to understand, but only interested in bashing her. It's not hard to imagine a dude being super nice in the beginning only to move in with the chick, and starts beating her ass and taking her car while she's at work. That's been a character in every Black community since before everyone in that room was born. How they didn't get is beyond me.

    • @aj2468
      @aj2468 7 місяців тому +10

      @@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX because that was a terrible explanation. Mel explained courting someone you’re interested or even simping. Hell even the way she explained it made it sound like the man was getting taken advantage of.

    • @mmartinez3578
      @mmartinez3578 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX Mel made no sense she even stopped at times cause she was confused herself and try explaining again and it got bad for her. She tried sounding top notch and smart on the love bombing but failed the usual 😂

  • @earlwilliamsjr2415
    @earlwilliamsjr2415 7 місяців тому +201

    The look on ish's face when Mel asked him if his girlfriend was polish, ish was thinking wtf. 😂😂😂

    • @arzuagadavid1
      @arzuagadavid1 7 місяців тому +12

      17:15 I’m dying 😂

    • @1991Meka
      @1991Meka 7 місяців тому

      She must be Hella white

    • @shadthagod8033
      @shadthagod8033 7 місяців тому +29

      Ish ignored her ass

    • @GuyFishER_
      @GuyFishER_ 7 місяців тому +1

      😂😂

    • @stephenbryant6622
      @stephenbryant6622 7 місяців тому +19

      Mel being shady she know his girl ain’t polish 🙄💀💀😂😂😂😂

  • @plummy1975
    @plummy1975 7 місяців тому +147

    Mel forgot to mention that love bombing normally comes after the ass beating. It's not just an introductory. They hurt you then love you back until they beat cho ass again. Mel missed this one.

    • @karenwells9918
      @karenwells9918 7 місяців тому +2

      I was saying this!

    • @hitmanswife1125
      @hitmanswife1125 7 місяців тому +23

      I don't think the guys understood that love bombing is a part of an abuse and control pattern. I believe whatever Ish read was a poor description of love bombing.

    • @BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX
      @BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@@hitmanswife1125but he "did research" 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @elchapo6175
      @elchapo6175 7 місяців тому +13

      She miss every shot she take lol

    • @emptyskies144
      @emptyskies144 7 місяців тому +10

      Ok, you made way more sense in a single sentence than she did during the whole convo

  • @Sixthpaths
    @Sixthpaths 7 місяців тому +61

    When everyone got on the couch when Mel started talking 😂😂😂

  • @hitmanswife1125
    @hitmanswife1125 7 місяців тому +47

    Watching Mel fumble the love bomb conversation is killer.

    • @user-ee1jc2sd1g
      @user-ee1jc2sd1g 7 місяців тому

      Cause it’s not a real concept

    • @hitmanswife1125
      @hitmanswife1125 7 місяців тому

      @@user-ee1jc2sd1g I respectfully disagree

    • @BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX
      @BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX 7 місяців тому

      ​@@user-ee1jc2sd1g. something tells me "concept" is a big word to you. 🤫

    • @yellowflash1971
      @yellowflash1971 7 місяців тому

      @@user-ee1jc2sd1git is she’s just an airhead 😂

  • @VisionItTv
    @VisionItTv 7 місяців тому +64

    Parks is a low key comedian and a sniper lol i love his comedic sense/ timing.

  • @EducatedG5
    @EducatedG5 7 місяців тому +338

    Flip never fails to tell Ish that he trying to look young every pod 😂

    • @earlwilliamsjr2415
      @earlwilliamsjr2415 7 місяців тому +10

      Fax, and it is getting old.

    • @famesame3691
      @famesame3691 7 місяців тому +45

      😂😂😂nah it’s still funny. “You look good” 😹😹😹

    • @Crimson23Tide
      @Crimson23Tide 7 місяців тому +22

      Flip jealous he look like the old drunk uncle with hoop dreams 😂😭😭

    • @coleworldcole9438
      @coleworldcole9438 7 місяців тому +3

      I look forward to it 😂😂

    • @Scambityfactsteam
      @Scambityfactsteam 7 місяців тому +4

      You always gotta point out the old nigga tryna be young it’s just what we do 😂😂😂

  • @thepob
    @thepob 7 місяців тому +58

    The "love bomber" starts pulling away when they notice that the victim has fallen in love. The victim is now left confused as to what happened, and this can cause cognitive dissonance. A narcissist will usually use this to their advantage and make the person believe they did something wrong and have them "work" for it to be like it used to be, ie have control over the relationship... The sudden pulling away is a clear indicator! Telling you a lot about themselves but without details, and asking you a lot of personal questions "getting to know you" in order to use it against you.... It´s intentional manipulation, the opposite of organically falling in love

    • @Live.Laugh.Love05
      @Live.Laugh.Love05 7 місяців тому +4

      BINGO! YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD WITH THIS ONE!!!!

    • @monicarichardson229
      @monicarichardson229 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Live.Laugh.Love05And you took the words right out of my mouth....agree 💯 facts!!!!!! Nailed it on the head!

    • @TheThugnificant
      @TheThugnificant 7 місяців тому +2

      Sounds like the basis of an excellent strategy.

    • @Dotfye
      @Dotfye 7 місяців тому +4

      Yes, this is the best explanation in my opinion in the comment section. The pulling away part and making people confused and making them ‘work’ for receiving 5 % of what they got in the beginning is the important part

    • @temi472
      @temi472 7 місяців тому +1

      What if, just what if....the person stopped liking you, fell out of love etc etc. What the guys' point is, is that in regards to actions, there is no separation btw "love bombing" and being loving. Cause you described it based off what they did after the "love bombing ".

  • @elias.236
    @elias.236 7 місяців тому +112

    Flip: "My Aunt came from VA..."
    Joe: "I wasn't done with my family." 🦃 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kevincasado8240
    @kevincasado8240 7 місяців тому +33

    Melyssa dropped the ball on that “love bomb” convo lol

  • @frostedflakes21
    @frostedflakes21 7 місяців тому +57

    Mel couldn’t land that love bomb plane for SHAT!! 😭😅 they know exactly what she was saying. She meant the demented, evil, purposefully manipulative people who use emotional tactics specifically for personal gain (mental control, sex, “wifey” mindset) with no intention of true connection or growth as a couple. It’s generally known that women are more emotionally wired than men so it appears more towards one gender but anyone can experience love bombing from someone with NEGATIVE INTENTIONS. Not people who genuinely like the person they are courting and showing their positive intentions of building longevity. There’s a clear difference. Has nothing to do with the person it’s happening to. Just because they don’t do it themselves doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. Stop being willfully ignorant and condoning weird behavior.

    • @user-ee1jc2sd1g
      @user-ee1jc2sd1g 7 місяців тому

      Basically love bombing if you reserve the right and regret what you did in the past with that person women are Fuking dum and make no sense

    • @km-qc3iv
      @km-qc3iv 7 місяців тому +6

      Whew.... thank you for landing the plane. These dudes seem to have Mel so spooked that she tiptoes through subjects.

    • @user-ee1jc2sd1g
      @user-ee1jc2sd1g 7 місяців тому +1

      @@km-qc3iv she doesn’t tiptoe that’s just how she speaks. She doesn’t wanna step on nobodies toes s she’s a people pleaser that’s no one’s fault but hers

    • @AbundantLegend
      @AbundantLegend 7 місяців тому

      🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

    • @Lovelee_rose
      @Lovelee_rose 7 місяців тому +1

      👏🏾👏🏾 she was giving me a headache with her terrible explanation and they made it 10 times worse purposefully trying to invalidate the concept

  • @IslandVibez_Virgo
    @IslandVibez_Virgo 7 місяців тому +80

    I think what Mel was trying to articulate about “love bombing” is that it’s usually accompanied by abuse. That’s the difference between courting vs love bombing. Like when someone hits u but afterwards showers u with gifts & attention. Thts what keeps victims locked in tht cycle of abuse.

    • @ravenemir5208
      @ravenemir5208 7 місяців тому +5

      Exactly the definition

    • @TEM937
      @TEM937 7 місяців тому +8

      Mel did a bad job explaining; however, these dude know what love bombing is and the difference.

    • @EC-vk6sk
      @EC-vk6sk 7 місяців тому +3

      No it actually just doesn't make sense, it's someone looking to be a victim

    • @whatudoin1
      @whatudoin1 7 місяців тому +11

      Mel is always holding back because they group up and attack her. Look at how joe reacted when she started reading the definition .They always dismiss her takes thats why she second guesses alot of things. i bet they will read the comments ,come back next week and say that she got them in trouble lol .

    • @shaylah4168
      @shaylah4168 7 місяців тому +8

      Exactly. I miss the old Mel that first was introduced to the pod. When she didn't hold back. I hate the discomfort you can literally see on her face every episode. They try to play dumb like they don't understand. Diddy was predatory he messed with her with the intention of manipulating that girl. Beat her and then buy her gifts!

  • @elias.236
    @elias.236 7 місяців тому +64

    That fakeout introduction of Mel😂😂😂😂

    • @juspatmil
      @juspatmil 7 місяців тому +3

      Kamala cackle

  • @keanonsean649
    @keanonsean649 7 місяців тому +87

    I need to start a documentary on how I'm trying to survive this era of this Sexy Red trash

    • @jalenwilliams8622
      @jalenwilliams8622 7 місяців тому +9

      It’s really easy I would have never even heard about it if they didn’t mention it on the pod and imma forget about it real fast

    • @310percentage
      @310percentage 7 місяців тому +11

      Women rap dominating and it's the first year rap has been on the biggest decline it's ever been on. Go figure. Common denominator is the female rappers being pushed to forefront makin nonsense. Rap is truly done. I don't anticipate any rapper or rap album. Genres is going extinct

    • @Skywalker721
      @Skywalker721 7 місяців тому +2

      You’ve survived trash rap culture this entire time, so you’ll be aight. 😂

    • @lonerebeI
      @lonerebeI 29 днів тому +1

      I refuse to listen to it. Even our generation's "trash" at least had some type of talents

  • @georgeparker8198
    @georgeparker8198 7 місяців тому +20

    They did Mel dirty AF in that Love Bombing conversation 😂😂😂

    • @simoneselvy8879
      @simoneselvy8879 7 місяців тому

      😂😂

    • @agie_2671
      @agie_2671 7 місяців тому +1

      They don't understand the meaning of it and she didn't do a good job in explaining it to them. A missed opportunity

  • @GuttaMookLit
    @GuttaMookLit 7 місяців тому +23

    When everybody sat on the couch I died 😂

  • @nofapobama
    @nofapobama 7 місяців тому +75

    Joe looking way more relaxed now that survivors act window closed 😅

    • @kynshii
      @kynshii 7 місяців тому +7

      Joe like 😮‍💨😮‍💨

    • @stakkbundlez2018
      @stakkbundlez2018 7 місяців тому +3

      Salute for the post and your email😂😂

    • @dylanshandley1246
      @dylanshandley1246 7 місяців тому +1

      Oh shit fam 😂

    • @IslandVibez_Virgo
      @IslandVibez_Virgo 7 місяців тому

      😂😂😂

    • @YSC_Q
      @YSC_Q 7 місяців тому

      Nah now that just more than diddy is being accused it’s not so much in him lol

  • @elias.236
    @elias.236 7 місяців тому +33

    "Ish has been sick for at least 2 months and doesn't believe it."😂😂😂

    • @papiiworks4256
      @papiiworks4256 7 місяців тому +2

      That's most men tbh. We don't have time nor do we care that we're a lil under the weather unless we are shaking in a sweat or broke something

    • @nofreehooks
      @nofreehooks 7 місяців тому +1

      Facts though. He done had a cough for months now. How you don’t think that’s something bigger?

    • @ez6888
      @ez6888 7 місяців тому

      @@nofreehooksa cough? He’s supposed to jump out of skin and fish for pity bcuz he got a cough?

    • @nofreehooks
      @nofreehooks 7 місяців тому

      @@ez6888 you think it’s normal to have a “cough” for months on end? lol go to the doctor homie.

  • @davidmcinnisjr
    @davidmcinnisjr 7 місяців тому +13

    Joe Budden saying Hall & Oates sampled Duck Tales had me crying. 😂😂

  • @janayjanayjanay5460
    @janayjanayjanay5460 7 місяців тому +34

    Where Would We Be Without The JBP 💪🏾

  • @warrenavenue
    @warrenavenue 7 місяців тому +33

    I appreciate the holiday content my brothers and Mel, love yall

  • @AliFrankTheTank
    @AliFrankTheTank 7 місяців тому +11

    “is she polish???”
    “uggggghhhh”…
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    and parks saying “the fight … oops-WAR” 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @qazar444
    @qazar444 7 місяців тому +17

    I searched all platforms and the JBP is hands down the best 💯💯💯

  • @NYKeyWordz
    @NYKeyWordz 7 місяців тому +21

    Yo! Ice is officially my favorite. Being a defendant at Thanksgiving dinner is crazy! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @DEEVIL
      @DEEVIL 7 місяців тому +1

      And wantin to pop Martha Stewart 😂😂

  • @3Ddex
    @3Ddex 7 місяців тому +40

    When Flip gets serious, he probably asks the best questions on the pod

    • @kritikle
      @kritikle 7 місяців тому +1

      I’ve been saying this. That’s why I love the brother. Silly usually but when he gets serious and talks about deep subjects, he genuinely invokes thought. I like his perspective. I’m a fan of everyone on the pod but my favourites are between Flip and Ish.

  • @cashewright713
    @cashewright713 7 місяців тому +54

    This pod makes me smile every morning I wake up. I always have a blessed and productive day. Thanks to the jbp

  • @KARS215
    @KARS215 7 місяців тому +19

    2:20:20 love when the pod breaks out into song 😂😂😂. Always so funny singing the classics

  • @cynthialowe7640
    @cynthialowe7640 7 місяців тому +10

    Thank you Joe for the extra podcasts great weekend full of laughter .😂😂😂Were would we be without the JBP 😂😂😂

  • @DishonorFPS
    @DishonorFPS 7 місяців тому +66

    The best way to start your day is watching The Joe Budden Podcast. 💯

  • @JustinDanteLaughs
    @JustinDanteLaughs 7 місяців тому +16

    This podcast is the funniest best most refreshing form of entertainment thank you guys JBP

  • @DiamondEyez456
    @DiamondEyez456 7 місяців тому +12

    BIG UP Ish on saying ALL victims deserve to be compensated beyond statue of limitation!!

    • @effective_cmpote
      @effective_cmpote 7 місяців тому +4

      Mel was wrong the way she looked at him saying she's surprised he feels that way. I'd be so insulted.

    • @nw6860
      @nw6860 6 місяців тому

      She thought he would say no because he doesn't stand with the "Me Too" movement@@effective_cmpote

  • @rudymccloud1037
    @rudymccloud1037 7 місяців тому +1

    A new listener to the podcast and love it! You guys are having fun, being respectful and insightful. The ideal podcast. Good job everyone 👏🏾👏🏾

  • @Iamfuture21
    @Iamfuture21 7 місяців тому +18

    That Drake take was full of salt! It came and went but got you ready to rap all of sudden 😂😂😂 and for 15 minutes??? And the stooges agreeing. That was whack 😂😂

    • @ro_goodwn
      @ro_goodwn 7 місяців тому +1

      Hell yeah lol.. and idk what tf ish was talking about saying it was quiet…hate is just louder than something being praised.. if were all agreeing its fire nobody is really debating or going back n forth about it..

    • @midwestkeithsweat7043
      @midwestkeithsweat7043 7 місяців тому

      Yet they talk like Sexxy Red really got heat that was absolutely pure salt

  • @gnote1121
    @gnote1121 7 місяців тому +8

    This pod is very well put together...it's crazy that I'm just realizing it

  • @tshombemiles100
    @tshombemiles100 7 місяців тому +10

    FYI :Daryl Hall is the blonde guy and John Oates is the guy with the black hair . Also Hall did most of the lead singing.

    • @lmoore9676
      @lmoore9676 7 місяців тому +1

      Exactly....I was like "what". Defer to Mel for actors and movies...never music.

    • @Tannie6047
      @Tannie6047 7 місяців тому

      Right!! Don’t know what she was talking about.

  • @maxxamillz2255
    @maxxamillz2255 7 місяців тому +14

    The problem with that term love bombing is a term that speaks on the action from a person in the moment but love bombing can only be recognized in hindsight

    • @user-bg6uf4fo5u
      @user-bg6uf4fo5u 7 місяців тому

      Wrong. Love bombing is done by someone with intent to manipulate.. to capture a victim... like. Cult leaders - pimps - true narcissistic people... they give the victim what they "need" with the same intention as a piece of cheese in a mouse trap... it's veery simple

    • @coreyherron8249
      @coreyherron8249 7 місяців тому +1

      Exactly!

  • @elias.236
    @elias.236 7 місяців тому +53

    Flip at the very beginning...
    "Yo can we leave at a reasonable time today please?" ⏲️ 🕐 🏃🏾‍♂️ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @gregorygreg000
      @gregorygreg000 7 місяців тому +6

      "Overworked and underpaid" sub? 😅

  • @ro_goodwn
    @ro_goodwn 7 місяців тому +4

    Joe and ish are so wrong about scary hours 3.. the love is just more quiet than the hate.. there’s nothing bad to say about so it seems quiet but the shit was fire

    • @AliFrankTheTank
      @AliFrankTheTank 7 місяців тому +2

      They gettin cooked on it so duh they hatin. 6/6

    • @MrSteele105
      @MrSteele105 7 місяців тому +1

      They lying

  • @tatewill24
    @tatewill24 7 місяців тому

    This is the only pod I know that has episodes in the cut ready and willing to put them out back to back to back🤯😇

  • @Tdotsqad
    @Tdotsqad 7 місяців тому +37

    Love bombing is when you do all those things at first to get them deeply invested in the relationship then stopping it and tricking them into thinking the giving person is really you when it’s not

    • @GDSprodify
      @GDSprodify 7 місяців тому +5

      OOOOOR, Maybe they just lost their job or decided to stop doing it reasonably.

    • @jaquaistaylor3794
      @jaquaistaylor3794 7 місяців тому +2

      @@GDSprodify😂😂 is this anecdotal

    • @kimborice2557
      @kimborice2557 7 місяців тому +2

      I think it starts with that but another component is when they try to use the way they treated you as an excuse when they start doing fuck shit.

    • @ginabelle7
      @ginabelle7 7 місяців тому

      @@GDSprodifythat’s not love bombing then fool. 😂😂😂

    • @janiagreen10
      @janiagreen10 7 місяців тому

      Thank you they make everything personal😂 “2 things can be true”

  • @kutlomahole7301
    @kutlomahole7301 7 місяців тому +77

    THE FIRST TEN MINUTES OF THE SHOW IS THE REAL PODFATHER AT HIS BEST NOT THE NONSENSE WE HAVE BEEN GETTING IN RECENT TIMES.

    • @sunnydisposition7492
      @sunnydisposition7492 7 місяців тому +4

      I'm glad Mel is on here👊🏾

    • @SticksAandstonesBozo
      @SticksAandstonesBozo 7 місяців тому +5

      Repeating “I ain’t gonna play today what kind of pod we having” over and over ?

    • @WoaDee504
      @WoaDee504 7 місяців тому

      ​@@SticksAandstonesBozoright lol

  • @underdog__t5152
    @underdog__t5152 7 місяців тому +20

    Man! Make a proper drop for the whole cast sir. ✅️

    • @axa5005
      @axa5005 7 місяців тому

      what's the point if Flip is talking about leaving

  • @Daimaauri
    @Daimaauri 7 місяців тому +7

    Sometimes I wish Melissa wasn’t the only woman on the couch so when she can’t articulate the definition of certain lingo like “love bombing” correctly she could have someone there to help her. Love bombing is typically a manipulative tactic used by abusers and is typically accompanied by gift giving following the abuse. For instance, a man beats tf out of his gf and then the next morning he showers her with gifts, like a car and a vacation so she could forgive him. That’s an example of lovebombing. Another example is when the guy is extremely nice to you in the beginning when he’s trying to peruse you but once he traps you (in either marrriage or with a child) he shows his true colors and becomes really abusive. Think of the movie Enough which stars Jennifer Lopez. This guy is introduced as a knight in shining armor who helps her from this slimy man preying on her, just for her “knight in shining armor” to be a complete devil once he marries her. He uses his money and power over her head and showers her with gifts after any of his abusive wrong doings. As far as the timeline Mel is referring to, it does happen very fast..like a whirlwind romance that sounds too good to be true and unfortunately in some cases it truly is.

    • @ApoetsPoet
      @ApoetsPoet 7 місяців тому +2

      I understand, but then you're also saying women are easily fooled by meaningless trinkets. Accepting anything from a man after he's abused you is very telling and is giving Stockholm syndrome vibes. Deciphering a man's character without becoming blinded by material gifts and trips should be the only goal 100% of the time. Same with men. Does she like me or what I can do for her? Is she verbally abusive and when I pull back does she use vagina to reel me back in only to get a bag. Works both ways mama, respectfully.

    • @Daimaauri
      @Daimaauri 7 місяців тому

      @@ApoetsPoet I never said loveboming only affect women. I just used women as an example since the conversation on the pod involved a woman’s point of view as an example. Lovebombing and manipulation can occur in both genders. Now respectfully fuck off. 😌

  • @tunitune777
    @tunitune777 7 місяців тому +10

    The love bomb conversation was frustrating. I was waiting for Mel to actually make the definition make sense…maybe all the over taking was confusing her and causing her to give a confusing definition? Idk. But love bombing put simply, is when a person- man or woman, INTENTIONALLY plays on your insecurities by constantly (and usually very early on in a relationship) tells you they “love you” and uses their “love” for you as a reason for you to forgive their mistakes and wrong actions. They hit you “but I love you so much, you’re the only person in the world for me”. They stalk you “I’m only popping up on you because I love you so much”. A person that love bombs is usually, eventually abusive, and possessive. And early on in their relationship, they use “love” as a reason to isolate you from others so they can have more control. After a week, they want you to move in. After two dates, they wanna fly you out somewhere to take you on a vacation. Just too much, way too soon.
    A love bomber is usually hella obsessive, very early in. And to a more healed person, this is a turn off so it doesn’t work as well. But a love bomber intentionally preys on a person that hasn’t experienced “love”, or is very insecure, so they’re more likely to fall for it.
    It’s all about the intent, a person that’s love bombing DOES NOT actually love you. They are only doing these things for the purpose of manipulating a partner. That’s it. It’s not that difficult of a concept to understand lol.

    • @kingkuntaSWM
      @kingkuntaSWM 7 місяців тому +2

      Remember when Martin asked Tommy to explain to Pam and Gina what love is? Tommy's explanation=love bombing.

    • @tiieeeem
      @tiieeeem 7 місяців тому +3

      Right! I didn’t understand why their conversation was so all over the place. Mel didn’t do well to explain and then for her to say that love bombing can’t be applied to Cassie and Diddy situation just goes to show that she really didn’t what she was talking about. They were all over the place for something that’s not difficult to understand.

    • @ronicasmith3956
      @ronicasmith3956 7 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for this. But Joe understands it. He has done this. The rest of them are not trying to understand it at all. 😢

    • @DULCEMIEL222
      @DULCEMIEL222 7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I felt the same way listening to her explain it, and honestly, it’s evident to me that whenever she’s put on the hot seat, she struggles. Most of the time, she’s echoing others’ points if she’s not being antagonized by the men. I want to shake her and let her know she got this, she can hold her own as long as she doesn’t get distracted. She could learn from Ish and Joe on this, ‘cause they’re excellent conversationalists when it comes to staying on track and keeping the discourse going.

    • @sinez999
      @sinez999 7 місяців тому +3

      You don't know what the other persons intent was. A lot of girls just throw this term around so loosely because their relationship didn't work out. At some point there needs to be some accountability on the girls if you're falling for that type of behavior.

  • @hotendsexy
    @hotendsexy 7 місяців тому +10

    I love how Joe acts like he’s not in the same category as Mel & Ish. You’re there too Joe! Surprise!

  • @clearlyme6104
    @clearlyme6104 7 місяців тому +97

    Thanks parks

    • @Stockboy929
      @Stockboy929 7 місяців тому +9

      Thank him for each time he don’t show up on camera

    • @officialCEO50gaming
      @officialCEO50gaming 7 місяців тому

      ​@Stockboy929 you on his 🍖

    • @ATKCAM
      @ATKCAM 7 місяців тому +2

      Word.

    • @MannyTwice
      @MannyTwice 7 місяців тому +14

      ​@@Stockboy929this hate

    • @Blank9458
      @Blank9458 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Stockboy929that’s crazy😂😂

  • @user-bz7ze8ws3g
    @user-bz7ze8ws3g 7 місяців тому +48

    😂 Joe's face when he gets called out is out of bounds 😂

  • @feej3922
    @feej3922 7 місяців тому +15

    What Mel is saying is; The ONLY person that knows from the gate that they are “love bombing” is the person doing the love-bombing. He/She knows what their TRUE intentions are. They know that they are doing all of the things only to have the upper hand/control in the end. Women can do it too.

  • @roachfatthenostalgist7535
    @roachfatthenostalgist7535 7 місяців тому +38

    Flip is the Podder of the Month!🔥
    Him & Mel need their tag music.

  • @moebandznocnasty1526
    @moebandznocnasty1526 7 місяців тому +23

    Coming and going 😂 best line of the pod

    • @jamesparker7016
      @jamesparker7016 7 місяців тому +1

      Ayyyoo that whole Dolly/Martha convo was out of pocket😂
      I love this podcast

  • @FocusedOnGreatness
    @FocusedOnGreatness 7 місяців тому +4

    I literally lost it at “Oh and they sampled Duck Tales”😂😂😂😂

  • @royalvibes4433
    @royalvibes4433 7 місяців тому +1

    I SWEAR ONE OF THE BEST THINGS, IS SEEING A NEW EPISODE UP! LETS GOOOOOO 💯👍🏽

  • @Snazzydoll440
    @Snazzydoll440 7 місяців тому +6

    “Me too Movement” is awfully quiet 🤫

  • @godsdaughter9024
    @godsdaughter9024 7 місяців тому +14

    Somebody please tell Mel "I'm too smart for my own damn good" Ford that the Flu is not prescribed or treated with the use of antibiotics...girl please 🙄

    • @charmainewillia
      @charmainewillia 7 місяців тому +2

      Actually u can take a zpak which is azithromycin when sick

    • @jasminemonet1746
      @jasminemonet1746 7 місяців тому +3

      A bacteria 🦠 and a virus are different. Typically, you have to wait it out with a virus. Antibiotics treat bacterial infections mostly.

    • @Lilbadtrinibih
      @Lilbadtrinibih 7 місяців тому +2

      My son just brought it home from daycare and it seems worse than the flu , we had this heavy cough with mucus for weeks our doctor said it was the flu but then it went away and then came back harder and the symptoms totally change from flu like to stomach virus 🦠 when we went back we had to get in nebulizers and a steroid the antibiotics did absolutely NOTHING idn what’s going around but it don’t seem like the common flu be safe out there❤

    • @mr.mr.4772
      @mr.mr.4772 7 місяців тому

      @@charmainewilliaz-pack doesn’t stop a virus from spreading.

    • @ronicasmith3956
      @ronicasmith3956 7 місяців тому +2

      Everyone is seriously coughing mucus coughs everywhere like everywhere

  • @motrainer888
    @motrainer888 7 місяців тому +8

    Using love as a tactic with no intentions of actually loving.

  • @meeannyou6434
    @meeannyou6434 7 місяців тому +5

    To be clear. Love bombing is a tactic used by manipulative and controlling people. Its a way to bait someone. The end result is always some form of abuse (emotional, mental, physical, spiritual or financial). In general, it is difficult to know whether anything you experienced with a narcissist is real or not. It’s difficult to know whether they were ever being genuine, or whether it was always just a game. That’s part of what makes it so traumatizing.

    • @angeleyes3396
      @angeleyes3396 7 місяців тому

      You have to make yourself believe it wasn’t real, because it never is with a narc or abusive person. Not genuine in any way, always for gain. Don’t traumatize yourself, just accept it and move on.

  • @OGDynasty
    @OGDynasty 7 місяців тому +8

    Mel is basically saying that most of the guys that love bomb initially turn out to be abusive or crazy. However, if you love bomb and don't turn out to be toxic or anything related, then its not considered love bombing. In my opinion.

    • @sinez999
      @sinez999 7 місяців тому +3

      💯, if there was never any abuse or manipulation it's not love bombing

    • @ginabelle7
      @ginabelle7 7 місяців тому +2

      Exactly, idk what’s hard to understand about that.

  • @elijahblack7167
    @elijahblack7167 7 місяців тому +6

    FINALLY PPL BEING HONEST ABOUT MFN SEXY RED

  • @whoudini08
    @whoudini08 7 місяців тому +1

    “Wake me up when it’s over” was crazy 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Aida925
    @Aida925 7 місяців тому +4

    I think the main difference between love bombing and courting /dating is the complete disregard for boundaries or intentional, pushing of boundaries. Wanting to text, talk to someone on the phone , go on dates, give gifts here and there and spend time together taking into account each other’s schedules etc is understandable. Where as with love bombing the person who is the love bomber wants to text you throughout the day , talk to you on phone all the time , lavish you with money or very expensive gifts and wants to spend all their time with you without regard to your schedule whatsoever . The love bomber gets upset when you decline and there’s no room for compromise, or any sort of life outside of this person you’re supposed to always be available for them in any way they want you to be it is hard for women to see the difference between this and what is called applying pressure/ showing interest because they can be similar. And women don’t want to be seen as standoffish or playing hard to get when in this type of situation, so they may be receptive to it, and as it escalates that’s when the woman has to make the decision, whether or not to stand up for themselves and assert their boundaries or stop talking to that person altogether. Oftentimes the love bomber will ghost or go find an easier target once they realize the person has boundaries and is sticking to them.

    • @angeleyes3396
      @angeleyes3396 7 місяців тому +2

      This 🎯 is one of the better explanations on here. It’s the breach of boundaries with the objective to make the person fall in love (quickly), lower their wall so they can penetrate, violate, then discard/abuse. The victim will be left confused, try to vie for affection they once felt while love bombed. Abuser will love bomb again to draw the victim back in and trigger the loop again. They will usually keep doing this cycle as long as it works. It’s a counterfeit way to draw their victim in.

  • @shaneejackson229
    @shaneejackson229 7 місяців тому +7

    I love this podcast sooo much !

  • @omegasupremetv
    @omegasupremetv 7 місяців тому +5

    Ice really found his voice. He's the 2023 JBP MVP 🏆

  • @Traptember
    @Traptember 7 місяців тому +1

    23:06 I told you bout your hands 😂😂😂
    I’m dead !!!

  • @KassonAvePod
    @KassonAvePod 7 місяців тому

    "Shut up, you've been "love bombed"" Was hilarious! 🤣

  • @Vyylent
    @Vyylent 7 місяців тому +63

    Mel got that 50 year old smoker laugh😂

    • @jalenwilliams8622
      @jalenwilliams8622 7 місяців тому +8

      She was laughing like she smoked a backwood with chief keef before the pod 😂

    • @juombe
      @juombe 7 місяців тому +5

      She's actually 47.

    • @ronicasmith3956
      @ronicasmith3956 7 місяців тому +10

      She is sick. Everyone everywhere got this cough.

    • @iamanthonyscott
      @iamanthonyscott 7 місяців тому +3

      Stop!! Mel's laugh is sexy

    • @grahamwilliams935
      @grahamwilliams935 7 місяців тому

      ​@@juombe48

  • @Ladybeast82
    @Ladybeast82 7 місяців тому +4

    Love bombing is real. I agree with Melissa. What she's trying to say is some men who have negative hidden motives for the soul purpose to JUST manipulate, control and be abusive, they will love bomb you at first, to present themselves as this great guy. I feel like the men on the panel only hear that there's a problem with men being nice at the beginning of the relationship. They're not highlighting that love bombing pertains to men who are only there to be abusive. The difference is whether a man is being genuine or whether one is only love bombing just to have complete control of a woman. I hear you Mel, I hope this made sense.

  • @reginaldcamp2
    @reginaldcamp2 7 місяців тому +1

    They way Joe looked when they talked about change was funny af!😂

  • @JohnnyDung
    @JohnnyDung 7 місяців тому

    2:14:09 "When you're expecting "MEL" that's when you check the "BOX" 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣🤣🤣 Accidental BARZ

  • @bluethingable
    @bluethingable 7 місяців тому +4

    Bruh Mel confidently saying John Oats was the lead singer is giving me an aneurysm

    • @elchapo6175
      @elchapo6175 7 місяців тому

      She be loud and wrong about everything lol a know it all that barely know anything

  • @Lilbadtrinibih
    @Lilbadtrinibih 7 місяців тому +5

    Video been up for literally 1 minute and I'm already here 😂😂😂😂

  • @marcusallenwilliamssr.2659
    @marcusallenwilliamssr.2659 7 місяців тому +2

    1:49:25 FLIP TO MEL: “YOU SENT YOUR DOG TO GO EAT”🤣😂🤣😂

  • @sunnydisposition7492
    @sunnydisposition7492 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the HOLIDAY episode 🍗🥧

  • @InfiniteDreamzxP
    @InfiniteDreamzxP 7 місяців тому +3

    Gotta be honest when it comes to these SA cases against artist people always ask “why would you settle if it was true” I think the answer is that there is a price for your trauma and we as people don’t want to admit it morally, we’d like to think it’s priceless to stand on some moral high ground (not to say that it’s wrong to have a moral high ground to some extent) for example if I got in a car accident that really fucked up my back, I can still do day to day activities but my body is in pain always to some extent, if I sue the guy that hit me and he hits me and says “yo I’ll give you 500k to not take this to court I have a reputation to uphold” that’s already worth more than my car and I could maybe live with said pain not to mention I wouldn’t have to worry about losing a case potentially because every case is loseable imo im gonna take that shit (scales may vary)

  • @aliciathomas2302
    @aliciathomas2302 7 місяців тому +3

    GREAT SHOW! I LOVE FLIP & HIS POINT OF VIEW AND REALNESS

    • @tsunamio422
      @tsunamio422 7 місяців тому

      He barley be saying shit 😂

  • @PhntmStudios
    @PhntmStudios 7 місяців тому +2

    THE BEST POD IN THR WORLD! Thanks Joe.💪🏽

  • @KingCrisNoir
    @KingCrisNoir 7 місяців тому

    I enjoy reading the comments when the pod first starts. So when it gets to a funny part mentioned, it's even funnier.

  • @axa5005
    @axa5005 7 місяців тому +8

    1:10:15 Ish explained that very well. Mel could've kept the idea that Ish would think otherwise to herself.

    • @BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX
      @BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX 7 місяців тому +2

      She could've actually doubled down. His usual argument would be that if it's not proven in court then the victim isn't a victim and deserves nothing. Mel just let's things go without pressing the issue. Probably because she's just there to collect the check and doesn't care enough to set the puers straight.

    • @axa5005
      @axa5005 7 місяців тому

      @@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX Don't get me wrong in some situations I feel she can double down more but also Joe gets to turning on the elevator music when they get to talking in circles so I get why she doesn't too...With the lovebombing topic, she could've doubled down more because she actually had a point

    • @camth7862
      @camth7862 7 місяців тому +1

      She really should have saved it, or framed it better. I feel like what she really believes is that the burden of proof for Ish to believe that someone is a victim and therefore deserves financial compensation is so high that many actual victims would be excluded. And is conflating that with “He wouldn’t support victims getting financial compensation”

    • @j.e3336
      @j.e3336 7 місяців тому +1

      @@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX No

  • @dazenoah9260
    @dazenoah9260 7 місяців тому +4

    What does a car say before it blows up? Puff 💨🤣🤣

    • @im4rmapple
      @im4rmapple 7 місяців тому

      Lmaoooooooo wtf 😂😂😂

  • @MusicMoods.mp3
    @MusicMoods.mp3 7 місяців тому

    Im not sure why there is so much laughter during the segment about the law suits….but Im not surprised.

  • @LogoSecretLovell
    @LogoSecretLovell 7 місяців тому +1

    …those Loubs M4 got on is flames 🔥🔥🔥🔥…they’re sleek yet bold aesthetically”

  • @claudiosumbane3223
    @claudiosumbane3223 7 місяців тому +3

    ICE on Point on This Pod, more positive more happy… we Need more of this, Salute fam

  • @alexsar6324
    @alexsar6324 7 місяців тому +7

    Can’t believe they dint review Wayne and Chainz new project that’s crazy

  • @JuanHernandez-lj9bu
    @JuanHernandez-lj9bu 7 місяців тому +2

    He really trying to make us forget about that Diddy pod😂😂

  • @Baba_Chi
    @Baba_Chi 7 місяців тому

    Nah that sow your royal oats definitely needed a pause 😂

  • @KPearson247
    @KPearson247 7 місяців тому +5

    Mel was cooking when she was talking about Love bombing. Shordie is the only one on here that consistently brings facts and gets hated on for making too much sense. Very wild.

  • @MF-pk2gf
    @MF-pk2gf 7 місяців тому +5

    “Love bombing” is showing an amount of attention and affection that seems over-the-top for a beginning of a relationship. You’ll also notice abrupt shifts in attitude and emotional manipulation.

    • @sinez999
      @sinez999 7 місяців тому +2

      Lol good luck deciphering that from just showing interest and being persistent. I'm sure you would be completely wrong at least half of the time

    • @MF-pk2gf
      @MF-pk2gf 7 місяців тому +1

      @@sinez999 Yeah, of course it’s easier to realize in hindsight. But I would say that we need to be careful about whirlwind romances in general. If you’re someone who just wants the date for a short time, perhaps it doesn’t matter. But people who are looking for something more long term could be more judicious about spotting the red flags, with love bombing being one of many.

    • @sinez999
      @sinez999 7 місяців тому

      ​@@MF-pk2gf Meh, I'd rather be an optimist and find someone who also thinks that way. Should we focus on building our woman to be mentally strong enough to leave any situation where there is abuse or manipulation? I think so. But that's not the easy solution. "Men bad" will always be the go.

    • @GDSprodify
      @GDSprodify 7 місяців тому +1

      @@MF-pk2gfIn my experience, coming into a potential relationship expecting long term or a relationship at all is damn near Love-Bombing levels of disingenuous behavior.
      Because why expect long term from someone you do not know yet to determine if they even make relationships with anyone like that.

    • @MF-pk2gf
      @MF-pk2gf 7 місяців тому

      @@GDSprodify I think that’s the point. Some people go into relationships knowing that they aren’t ready for long term (it’s purely hooking up). Some people have controlling tendencies which manifests in their romantic relationships (maybe you know people like that). And others, like maybe yourself, are genuine so it’s a moot point anyway.

  • @adriennebrailsford6291
    @adriennebrailsford6291 7 місяців тому

    Ish’s timely sip on the yeti was too perfect

  • @ricardonieves2543
    @ricardonieves2543 7 місяців тому

    “Your grandpop had the same hand problem” 😂😂😂

  • @bythedutchmaster
    @bythedutchmaster 7 місяців тому +5

    Mel dirty as hell for saying she was expecting Ish to be against sexually abused women being able to get their justice

  • @chelseychante
    @chelseychante 7 місяців тому +8

    Am I the only one that understood Mel’s lovebomb explanation perfectly fine?😭

    • @colodro44
      @colodro44 7 місяців тому +3

      Yes

    • @user-bg6uf4fo5u
      @user-bg6uf4fo5u 7 місяців тому +3

      She poorly defined it. You probably understand due to experience

    • @chelseychante
      @chelseychante 7 місяців тому

      @@user-bg6uf4fo5u definitely understood because of experience, I was thinking that was why as well.

  • @foxmcloud1998
    @foxmcloud1998 7 місяців тому +1

    I love this I know we aren’t gonna get this many uploads regularly ❤

  • @joshuafoster7931
    @joshuafoster7931 7 місяців тому +1

    lmfao " you eating at chilis now? "

  • @KeepItSimple303
    @KeepItSimple303 7 місяців тому +6

    Listening to the grown men on the pod not understanding the term ‘Love Bombing’ was difficult to watch. Gentlemen, please understand the concept of showering someone with words of affection, gifts etc with the sole intention of controlling their every move thereafter. That is all…Salute, Mel 👊🏾😎

  • @KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997
    @KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997 7 місяців тому +3

    You can tell Ish is so fcking annoyed with Mel. When she first got there, it was all good. I bet you anything he wouldn't touch her if she wanted to smash!

  • @adrianyearwood1833
    @adrianyearwood1833 7 місяців тому

    The love bombing part was fuvking hilarious 😅😅😅 great pod!!!

  • @kaywess1738
    @kaywess1738 7 місяців тому

    9:09 "He took me to a play and it got weird" Joe is funnyyy 😂😂😂

  • @92kris
    @92kris 7 місяців тому +3

    Scary Hours only went under the radar because its like a deluxe album…those 6 songs sound better than the whole FATD

    • @ro_goodwn
      @ro_goodwn 7 місяців тому

      Also it was really nothing to hate on about it so people not debating or going back n forth about it.. if it was bad the hate would’ve def been loud

  • @Champ9429
    @Champ9429 7 місяців тому +4

    Mel low-key be hating on ish 😂😂😂

    • @nehemiah8090
      @nehemiah8090 7 місяців тому

      Frfr am surprised he let her off like that calling him a r**e apologiest

  • @prettiboidaidai
    @prettiboidaidai 7 місяців тому

    41:47 LMFAOOOO “ y’all niggas podding “ JOE CANT BELIEVE THIS !! 😭😭😭

  • @Pancake_cake_cake55
    @Pancake_cake_cake55 7 місяців тому +1

    I appreciate this!