The question is what's your definition of the South that's many states if you're a black man/African-American with knowledge of self & did some research after WW2 a lot of black soldiers came back to segregated cities in the south so a lot of them got tired of the oppression & started to migrate their families to the big cities in the north like NYC or Chicago or Boston also people have to get this stereotype out of their minds that all black people are from the south you have blacks from the north & their oral history should be explained as well no disrespect peace.
Great Job on the interview with Big U, Much Respect to Kev, Mel , & Mac on giving back helping the young understand the past. and where i don't know Big U personally I know of his work helping our people in the community and the kids in sports. My Daughter in Law is from the 60s, and she has always spoke good things on Big U. I pray that you all continue to inspire, Motivate, and Educate our young. you all are very much appreciated.
whoevers hookin Kevmac up with the beats for his videos is doin a real good job. That 80's beat combined with the pictures really makes you feel like you travelled back. Great interviews too obviously
31:41 is the start of the best set up to the next episode in you tube history. Salute Big U. And Salute to Kev Mac. Your impact on the culture is definitely felt.
Outstanding interview and yes Big U does not letvya down. Just when you're comfy, got ya popcorn ready and chompin down, gettin ready to hear about the rumble in the County Jail between the ETGs and the 60s ? Nope gotta wait till next time. (Classic Editing) Thank you Big U, Melly Mel, Baby Smac, KMV and Big Kev Mac. Love the questions you guys ask and l can't wait for part 2!!! One of your best Interviews for Season 3!!! Peace!!! #Salute!!!
Melly mel. Can you speak on rocchead and baby gangster. It’s clear if you have watched enough of these videos both their names are always brought up yet none of them mention each other. The most gangster has said is he was in 4800 with him, yet they were from same set. What’s the story?
Big U with a legendary start to an interview I’m expecting to get better n better each episode! Kev got 2 of the most well known black gangstas, from one of if not the most historic rivalries (Monster Kody & Big U) in American history to sit down n give us they story! Only thing could be better is if they sat down together!!! KMV where Content is King 💪🏾
see you gotta have big miz on again homie i been asking for another big miz interview! much respect for this work and FUCC all the haters trying to come into the comment section to kick up dust you aint gon do shit in real life.
BiG U is a good interview always has been. Articulate, great memory, open and honest. Put this together with Pretty Boy, Mumpy, Cutes interview w/ Monsta and you can put together 60’s history book
mrfabulous17 Yeah kev do one on lil fee not about the murders but when he was a football star ⭐️ his sports career homie was like that, star in football basketball and softball
Lil doc was a real one heard he saved a few young dudes from rapes and he stood up for younger dudes it’s messed up nobody wanted to stand up with him to stop that shyt that’s why he said he never respected 4800
F-Bone was a name I always heard as a kid. Big U is giving context to who the man actually was for me. Peddie Wacc is another one of them names I always heard as a youngster.
Great interview KMV alot of good history. Big U name was always heard about way back in the days. He is related to two of my homeboys out of Inglewood. Much Love and Respect!!!
County Jail Kaos,SMH ! Out of all the County Jail stories I've ever heard that saddened me was from my Nieghbor,There was an Fx13 shotcaller who used to live next door to me,He was telling me about watching an a 118EC & BHB try to tear each other's heads off,While a bunch of Surenos(My Nieghbor Included) just stood around watching 2 Black Men fight ! That story really pissed me off ! He was in the County getting along with 18st but Black Men couldn't put aside thier differences #Netflixneedskevmacvideos 💯
What do you expect? If those boys are taking a fade why would an outsider interject? Plus you said the guy was a shot caller so he’s used to Cali prison rules where the races seperate. Sounds smart to leave it alone who knows how it could get out of hand.
@@joseblaze7154 I wasn't expecting him to get in it,it's not his bizness as a Sureno ! I was pissed about the lack of unity the Crips/Bloods had in there,While he wasn't tripping on any 18st's
Proud of the Big Homeboy Draws!.... was a savage behind them walls.... my one and only stretch for 11 years, I used to watch him and Harry O big politic! And now all that energy is focused on bringing up the City. Salute! #RollerCoastin
MAD NEW YORKER Harry O was solid but honestly behind those walls your “street credentials” only afford you so much leeway... the politics around cats like him and Draws are above my pay grade so I can’t and won’t speak on that, but dude was a stand up cat in my eyes.
Makes sense martial arts always been a thing in our communities. I grew up off naruto and dragon ball z all them good anime’s kept my hands up. Never picked up a gun till the army.
Vincent Welch yeah that’s crazy. I’m familiar with the Chi. Love that city. A lot of friends from all mobs there from Stoney island, wild hunnits, maywood, and breeds from the west side. Stay up G pml
Boonie Blue Fa sho fam im from the 100s i got family in every Nation out here so we didn't get into the bangin thing too much. I got family in Cali out in Riverside R.I.P. Bub from Westside PJ Crips. Got love for any real solid soldiers
Ivy Hill Rollin 60s - Bricc City Jerzey if you hustle with them you’re probably affiliated with them. Nation business is different than street gangs. They are organizations and you just don’t run with Chief Malik.
Ivy Hill Rollin 60s - Bricc City Jerzey True...also Squad leaders, Secretaries, Sister Captains, Vanguard, Jr F.O.I, Jr M.G.T & Vanguard, different ranks within each.
D Tomo You need to do your research. Everybody know that was the FBI. The Feds rented out the Audubon ballroom a day before the assassination. There’s a UA-cam clip of Dick Gregory breaking it down. Matter of fact ask Big U.
N.O.I. helped kill Malcolm Court Weighs Expanding Scope of Murder Charge By Jan Hoffman Jan. 9, 1994  Credit...The New York Times Archives See the article in its original context from January 9, 1994, Section 1, Page 26Buy Reprints New York Times subscribers* enjoy full access to TimesMachine-view over 150 years of New York Times journalism, as it originally appeared. SUBSCRIBE *Does not include Crossword-only or Cooking-only subscribers. About the Archive This is a digitized version of an article from The Times’s print archive, before the start of online publication in 1996. To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them. Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions. The subject is murder. Or rather, that distant border separating what can legally be called a murder from tragically bad luck. Case No. 1: A man chokes and slashes his girlfriend, who survives, though she has been left paralyzed and on a hospital respirator. He pleads guilty to attempted murder and begins serving his sentence. Nine months after the attack, the woman dies. Can prosecutors charge the man with murder? Case No. 2: Pointing a gun, a man snatches a chain from a victim, jumps into a car and flees. The victim gives chase and hails police officers, who join in. Gunfire is exchanged. The chain-snatcher drives off in a police car, now pursued by at least eight more police cars. One car, trying to swerve around an ambulance, crashes into it; a housing police officer dies instantly and another suffers critical injuries. Can the chain-snatcher be charged with murder? In these two very different cases, being argued coincidentally this month before New York State's Court of Appeals, death occurs after a violent, Rube Goldberg-like series of events. But whether such a death can be translated into a murder charge is the question that the state's top judges will address. Criminal-law experts familiar with the cases say they pose classic legal issues. Issue of Double Jeopardy ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story The strangulation case, argued last week, brings a novel issue before the court having to do with double jeopardy, which bars multiple prosecutions for the same offense. The second, to be argued on Tuesday, takes up felony murder -- a death that occurs during the commission of another violent felony -- and may sharpen guidelines for how directly linked a fleeing felon's actions and the subsequent death must be for a murder indictment. Decisions are expected within six weeks. You have 2 free articles remaining. Subscribe to The Times In oral arguments last week, the successive legal problems in the double jeopardy case, stacked like Russian nesting dolls, clearly intrigued the judges. On May 18, 1990, Ronald Latham, then a 23-year-old hospital nurse from Watervliet, saw his girlfriend, Marie Shambeau, a 22-year-old secretary from Rensselaer, being dropped off at home late at night by an old boyfriend. According to his lawyer, F. Stanton Ackerman, Mr. Latham went into Ms. Shambeau's bedroom, choked her and stabbed her in the throat and the side with a pair of scissors. A few hours later she was discovered by her parents. Health Worsened After Plea ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story Ms. Shambeau was permanently paralyzed from the neck down and placed on a respirator. Eventually, her health improved slightly and rehabilitation began. Mr. Latham pleaded guilty to attempted murder in January 1991 and is now serving a 7 1/2-to-22 1/2-year prison sentence. But in February, Ms. Shambeau's health worsened: she suffered a stroke, then pneumonia and died on March 6. When a Schenectady County medical examiner tied her death to a "pattern of events" that resulted from Mr. Latham's assault, the Rensselaer County District Attorney's office indicted him on a charge of second-degree murder, which carries a minimum sentence of 15 years and a top sentence of 25 years to life. The trial judge dismissed the indictment, saying that it constituted double jeopardy. The appellate division said it did not. A New York State law does include an exception to the double jeopardy ban, in circumstances of "delayed death." Based on a 1983 case in which a man convicted of reckless endangerment was later charged with murder, the law says that if a victim dies, a defendant may indeed be subsequently charged in that death, as long as the first crime was not a "homicide offense." What Does Death Change? ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story In Mr. Latham's case, the trial judge held that attempted murder, the crime to which Mr. Latham pleaded guilty, was indeed a homicide offense, and so created a double jeopardy problem. In her argument before the Court of Appeals last week, the Rensselaer County District Attorney, Mary O. Donohue, said that while attempted murder and murder have almost identical elements, death makes them separate crimes, and so the first is not a homicide offense. Moreover, she said, as a matter of public policy, when a victim lingers, as Ms. Shambeau did, neither side's interest in swift justice would be served by waiting to learn whether she would live or die before proceeding with an indictment. But, Ms. Donohue said in a recent interview, "a victim who dies a slow, painful death" should not be denied justice. Indicting Mr. Latham for murder, she said, was appropriate. Duty to Warn Defendant ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story Mr. Ackerman said the new murder charge set off problems that the prosecution had not considered. Chief among them was Mr. Latham's guilty plea, which typically signals finality in a case. In accepting the sentence, Mr. Latham admitted in open court that he had tried to murder Ms. Shambeau. But according to rules of evidence, those statements could be used against him in a murder trial. Conviction would be almost certain. Before the guilty plea was accepted, was it the obligation of the prosecution or Mr. Latham's lawyer to tell the defendant that murder charges would be sought if Ms. Shambeau died? Apparently, neither did. A ruling by the Ohio Supreme Court last month in a similar double-jeopardy case might offer a solution, Mr. Ackerman told the judges. The Ohio court said that if prosecutors wanted to preserve their right to bring murder charges later, they must give the defendant fair warning during plea bargaining. And because they had not, the Ohio court said the defendant could not be indicted for murder. Officers Died in Chases Next week's felony-murder arguments involve two cases, one in the Bronx, the other in Manhattan. Both cases involve fleeing felons and police officers who died chasing them. In a related case in November, the Court of Appeals ruled that a defendant could be charged with felony murder, even though in a gun battle, an officer died from a bullet most likely fired by another officer. ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story In New York State, the test for felony murder is foreseeability: could the defendant have reasonably foreseen that the direct result of his first crime might be death? The test was developed in a landmark 1974 case, People v. Kibbe, in which the defendant left a robbery victim, partly undressed, drunk and without his glasses, on a dark road in subfreezing weather. The victim was soon struck by a truck and died. The Court of Appeals ruled that when the defendant abandoned the victim, such a tragic outcome was foreseeable, and so he could be charged with felony murder even though he himself did not kill the victim. But how attenuated can that link be, particularly when the defendant is trying to escape an officer, not kill him? In next week's cases, lower courts have disagreed. The Appellate Division ruled that in the 1988 Bronx chain-snatching case, the defendant, Alexander Brown, should not have been tried for felony murder, because his underlying crimes -- the armed robbery of the chain and the police car -- were not directly related to the death of the housing officer. Gruesomeness Aids Suspect Although a jury acquitted Mr. Brown of that murder charge, he was convicted of other crimes. The appellate division reversed his convictions and ordered a new trial, ruling that the admission of the gruesome details of the officer's death had prejudiced the case. ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story But the Manhattan felony-murder case brought a different response from the appellate division. In 1989, Eddie Matos and his co-defendants were thwarted by police officers as they tried to rob a McDonald's in Times Square at 3 A.M. Mr. Matos scrambled onto a roof and an officer pursuing him fell down an air shaft and died. There was no conclusive evidence whether Mr. Matos pushed the officer or if he tripped, but Mr. Matos was tried and convicted of felony murder. The Appellate Division affirmed the conviction and the sentence, 25 years to life.
@@seanx3999so you saying blaming the police for niggas killing up each other for gang rags and gold chains......that's why black people stuck........we dont take accountability for our ACTIONS!
Big U interview...I wondering if you was going to do one on him. Kev Mac been serving us with that flame, I m still waiting the Schrunchy interveiw, I guess I betta watch out...yes indeed. This year is all you brotha
I remember in 91 I had a few traffic tickets warrants and they thru me 4800 in accident I was suppose be put somewhere else ....and I still have nightmare from that place
I wish we had a Kev Mac type blogger for the brothers here in Chicago but the problem with that is that most of the old heads are either buried in the penitentiary or have moved away. And Chicago being the stand up city that it once was back in the day, the old heads like myself ain't gone talk to you anyway.
Tiny "Debo" said his character in Friday was based on Big U. When he said, what you gon do with that gun but make me mad? Tiny said, that's exactly what Big U said.
Debbo was based on a nigga from Watergate crip . Dj Pooh hommie....the nigga that wrote the movie....Big U was a beast too tho .....but I never felt his energy was truly positive....just my personal experience with cuz.....SIP THUNDER CAT2
@@dontgetittwizted trust me I know who the real debo was ... Tiny was a actor in the movie ..Dj Pooh and Cube created the movie.....so again Debo was based on a nigga from Watergate crip ....DJ POOH HOOD....BIG U IS FROM 60s but think what you want my guy
Big U coming through like vinsanity in the Olympics trying to jumper over the other interviews to that number 1spot. He dropping heat and it's just the first interview DAMN!!!!
One thing that I love about KMV is them old school pictures.
right
Definitely
Dudes was putting in work in church shoes.
@@bunnymanmoe8819 lol i always peeped dat
@LAhoodsocial 4 no young blood y'all take stance like them older cats . The way the o.gs hold themselves left impressions on y'all right
Yesterday is history,tomorrow is a mystery,today is Big U premiere. Kmvideos where knowledge and content is king.
Already
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Gotcha I'm present...yep
@@lisajackson8643 thank you be sure to subscribe to my channel Professor Melly Mel nextlevel
@Bussinyagirl Cheeks all day
U aint getting me with no knife.... thank you for bringing it...😮🤣😂
THAT WAS FUNNY...DONT BE SCARES OF THE SHANK!!
Yeah that’s was a Funny Fly Ass comment 😂🤣
Everybody from down South. No matter what state. Somebody got some family that's from or stayed down south! Down South in the building 💯
DOWN SOUTH OR BELIZE FOR SOME OF US !
MY MOMS SIDE FROM LOUISIANA MY POPS SIDE FROM BELIZE
Of course bruh that's where all of the black folks migrated from the south in the 40s and 50s all around the country!
Down south breed da realest. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Yup
The question is what's your definition of the South that's many states if you're a black man/African-American with knowledge of self & did some research after WW2 a lot of black soldiers came back to segregated cities in the south so a lot of them got tired of the oppression & started to migrate their families to the big cities in the north like NYC or Chicago or Boston also people have to get this stereotype out of their minds that all black people are from the south you have blacks from the north & their oral history should be explained as well no disrespect peace.
Great Job on the interview with Big U, Much Respect to Kev, Mel , & Mac on giving back helping the young understand the past. and where i don't know Big U personally I know of his work helping our people in the community and the kids in sports. My Daughter in Law is from the 60s, and she has always spoke good things on Big U. I pray that you all continue to inspire, Motivate, and Educate our young. you all are very much appreciated.
He said ""he was afraid if his auntie was gonna tell on him "" remember when that was a thing , afraid to be told on !!??
whoevers hookin Kevmac up with the beats for his videos is doin a real good job. That 80's beat combined with the pictures really makes you feel like you travelled back. Great interviews too obviously
Big U always comes through with something solid! Great line of questions and great answers.
Boss closs
Just watched the intro and I know this is gonna be a banger!!! Kev Mac.... appreciate this Bro!!
31:41 is the start of the best set up to the next episode in you tube history. Salute Big U. And Salute to Kev Mac. Your impact on the culture is definitely felt.
Outstanding interview and yes Big U does not letvya down. Just when you're comfy, got ya popcorn ready and chompin down, gettin ready to hear about the rumble in the County Jail between the ETGs and the 60s ? Nope gotta wait till next time. (Classic Editing)
Thank you Big U, Melly Mel, Baby Smac, KMV and Big Kev Mac. Love the questions you guys ask and l can't wait for part 2!!!
One of your best Interviews for Season 3!!!
Peace!!!
#Salute!!!
ETG \ Hoover's vs R60's \ EastCoast
The wait is over!!👏🏾💯Hoping this classic interview series is a 4 part series!! Kev Mac, Baby S Mac, and Melle Mel about to get off on this interview!!
Big U is just getting started be sure to stay tube to kmvideos where knowledge and content is king
I applaud you brothers for keeping it honest keep doing your thing I would love to see a story from all the real soldiers from crips to bloods
Your little homie is asking about you Mel. Loco from the Blocc, Zachary Rhoades is in the Limon Correctional facility in Colorado.
Lol
Melly mel. Can you speak on rocchead and baby gangster. It’s clear if you have watched enough of these videos both their names are always brought up yet none of them mention each other. The most gangster has said is he was in 4800 with him, yet they were from same set. What’s the story?
Much respect OG still on the block representing doing a interview keeping points #solid #ripnipNH
Love listening to Big U talk. Respect OG ✊🏾
Big U with a legendary start to an interview I’m expecting to get better n better each episode! Kev got 2 of the most well known black gangstas, from one of if not the most historic rivalries (Monster Kody & Big U) in American history to sit down n give us they story! Only thing could be better is if they sat down together!!! KMV where Content is King 💪🏾
Rest in peace NIP
Yep! Nippsey was the dude till jealous goofys from his own neighborhood conspired!
@@renna912 so you been perfect your whole life? You a hypocrite......
great interview as always KevMac. this is gonna be a all time great
Yessir Yessir.. what I'm talking about Kev Mac videos... keeping this UA-cam alive.
God damn you hit the Jack pot kev this is some crazy shit. Especially when he explained the 4800
Outstanding interview!!!
Superb as per Kev,big appreciation from Scotland mate.
Kev getting cold w the cliffhangers lol.
Big U interview might be the best of the best. I feel it already. Rocc head a soldier for real
Ain't gon lie, this interview better than his first one already!
By far
see you gotta have big miz on again homie i been asking for another big miz interview! much respect for this work and FUCC all the haters trying to come into the comment section to kick up dust you aint gon do shit in real life.
No matter how many times I switch my top 5 Big Mizz is always there.
@503305 Podcast much respect
The Big Miz interview was one of my Top 10
When big U said “You ain’t finna fuck with me with no knife ... Thank you for brining it” Yeah Bro different...
Them old heads talk like that. They a different breed.
BiG U is a good interview always has been. Articulate, great memory, open and honest. Put this together with Pretty Boy, Mumpy, Cutes interview w/ Monsta and you can put together 60’s history book
mrfabulous17 Yeah kev do one on lil fee not about the murders but when he was a football star ⭐️ his sports career homie was like that, star in football basketball and softball
Bahahahaha bro wtf you talkin about? Watch my video about big U and his memory
Dude is sketch at best
Wow!! His story about 4800 is the same exact story lil doc from east coast told about older homies taking advantage of lil homies
Sam Smith yea that shit was wack
1lifestyle wacc is an understatement man
You can tell who the real gz were because if Im not mistaken Monster explained it the same way in his book.
Lil doc was a real one heard he saved a few young dudes from rapes and he stood up for younger dudes it’s messed up nobody wanted to stand up with him to stop that shyt that’s why he said he never respected 4800
whats up I can already tell this is gonna be a good one im definitely looking forward to watching this tonight peace
Classic right here! Y'all killin the game Mayne! ✊🏾
Ahh Kev Mac! Damn you left us hanging waiting for part 2!!
🔥 hope it got 6 parts to it
F-Bone was a name I always heard as a kid. Big U is giving context to who the man actually was for me.
Peddie Wacc is another one of them names I always heard as a youngster.
How many pedie waccs are there?
I think 1 homie peddie wacc kinda up there in age
Peddie Wacc has a Sister name Stacy who married Big Peabody from Denver Lanes. Alot ôf R60's was jealous of that union.
Emmett Lewis that’s crazy
@@YoungWolf34 It's 2 of em that I know but the homies from60s do so much recruiting it could be more now IAM not sure but 2 for certain since late80s
You know it’s a good interview when half an hour felt like only 15 minutes.
Truly worth the anticipation
This was Fire Kev...💯🔥🏁
That instrumental is dope AF.
Had no idea that Mizz was that much older. Salute to you Mr KevMAC another great interview
Great interview KMV alot of good history. Big U name was always heard about way back in the days. He is related to two of my homeboys out of Inglewood. Much Love and Respect!!!
Well RESPECTED SOLDIERS right here!! Salute to this 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Content as well! 💪🏿
County Jail Kaos,SMH ! Out of all the County Jail stories I've ever heard that saddened me was from my Nieghbor,There was an Fx13 shotcaller who used to live next door to me,He was telling me about watching an a 118EC & BHB try to tear each other's heads off,While a bunch of Surenos(My Nieghbor Included) just stood around watching 2 Black Men fight ! That story really pissed me off ! He was in the County getting along with 18st but Black Men couldn't put aside thier differences #Netflixneedskevmacvideos 💯
Was this on 75th st ?
Did you ever live on 75th and Miramonte ?
What do you expect? If those boys are taking a fade why would an outsider interject? Plus you said the guy was a shot caller so he’s used to Cali prison rules where the races seperate. Sounds smart to leave it alone who knows how it could get out of hand.
@@user-fc1ce2zn7r No,I grew up in Bishop Hood ! If ur inquiring about the shotcaller his name was Mad Dreamer
@@joseblaze7154 I wasn't expecting him to get in it,it's not his bizness as a Sureno ! I was pissed about the lack of unity the Crips/Bloods had in there,While he wasn't tripping on any 18st's
Proud of the Big Homeboy Draws!.... was a savage behind them walls.... my one and only stretch for 11 years, I used to watch him and Harry O big politic! And now all that energy is focused on bringing up the City. Salute! #RollerCoastin
How was Harry-O treated in the pen??? Did he have made respect???
Harry-O and J Prince are heavily connected. Harry-O name ring bells in south texas
MAD NEW YORKER Harry O was solid but honestly behind those walls your “street credentials” only afford you so much leeway... the politics around cats like him and Draws are above my pay grade so I can’t and won’t speak on that, but dude was a stand up cat in my eyes.
@@dudaray95 elaborate
Makes sense martial arts always been a thing in our communities. I grew up off naruto and dragon ball z all them good anime’s kept my hands up. Never picked up a gun till the army.
T-Bone Steak so cartoons taught you how to squabble? 🤔🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂
Super great content.......peace big u n whos the mac...kev
This gone be a stump down serious ass interview!!! His pops got a Chitown background, Chitown build strong niggas, on God!
We need mump back
Curtis Outlaw, Hell yeah OG Mumpy !!!
Yeah he's a real one through and through.
FACTS
That was his best interview hands down imo... N they was on FaceTime.. imagine one on the turf. Sheesh
Shout out to "The Mumpster" he was 1 of the best story tellers on this platform...him and Big Nugget in my opinion.
Big U Jheri curl was on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥... 😂😂😂😂😂
Did you know that the Jurhi curl originally came from Ireland??? Real talk. I found that out from the game show "Jeopardy",.
MADNEW YORKER really.. 😳. Who the hell was rocking that in Ireland? 😂😂😂
@@rodneydunn8196
It was said that the Jurhi curl hairstyle was popular in the tree logging industry in Ireland.
I tripped when I heard it too!!!
@@rodneydunn8196 Irish aint known for rockin' Jheri Curls and it wasnt them that made it popular
@@lebronflames6373 a white guy did invent the Jheri Curl. His name is Jheri Rhedding
Been waiting dor this one salute all the real ones !!!!
Loving these interviews big dawg. We ever gone see Tray Deee on here?
So big U dad was a blackstone? He said his dad ran with Chief Malik.
Boonie Blue thats wild im from Chicago im GD grew up around Stones got love for em didn't know Big U family run deep thru Chicago history.
Vincent Welch yeah that’s crazy. I’m familiar with the Chi. Love that city. A lot of friends from all mobs there from Stoney island, wild hunnits, maywood, and breeds from the west side. Stay up G pml
Boonie Blue Fa sho fam im from the 100s i got family in every Nation out here so we didn't get into the bangin thing too much. I got family in Cali out in Riverside R.I.P. Bub from Westside PJ Crips. Got love for any real solid soldiers
Ivy Hill Rollin 60s - Bricc City Jerzey if you hustle with them you’re probably affiliated with them. Nation business is different than street gangs. They are organizations and you just don’t run with Chief Malik.
Vincent Welch that’s what’s up bro.
Big Mizz AKA The Crip version of Greg Nice(😁),
from Nice n Smooth is fam with Big-u. This is about to be one of those top notch Kevmac interviews 💪💪👍👍
405 BOY 😂😂😂😂😂
Nice n smooth😀😆 the takes care of himself. Thawt he was only bout 45.big u said he was older thn him. Wow!
You hit that Greg Nice dead on.
That beat is smoke at the beginning make me start c walccin at work❄
You ain't gone f@%k wit me wit no knife thank you for bringin it 💪🏿👊🏿✊🏿💯... HARDBODY!!!
Big U said he got his structure from The Nation of Islam. True military structure and chain of command. Most organized black movement in America.
Ivy Hill Rollin 60s - Bricc City Jerzey True...also Squad leaders, Secretaries, Sister Captains, Vanguard, Jr F.O.I, Jr M.G.T & Vanguard, different ranks within each.
D Tomo You need to do your research. Everybody know that was the FBI. The Feds rented out the Audubon ballroom a day before the assassination. There’s a UA-cam clip of Dick Gregory breaking it down. Matter of fact ask Big U.
N.O.I. helped kill Malcolm
Court Weighs Expanding Scope of Murder Charge
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Jan. 9, 1994

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The subject is murder. Or rather, that distant border separating what can legally be called a murder from tragically bad luck.
Case No. 1: A man chokes and slashes his girlfriend, who survives, though she has been left paralyzed and on a hospital respirator. He pleads guilty to attempted murder and begins serving his sentence. Nine months after the attack, the woman dies. Can prosecutors charge the man with murder?
Case No. 2: Pointing a gun, a man snatches a chain from a victim, jumps into a car and flees. The victim gives chase and hails police officers, who join in. Gunfire is exchanged. The chain-snatcher drives off in a police car, now pursued by at least eight more police cars. One car, trying to swerve around an ambulance, crashes into it; a housing police officer dies instantly and another suffers critical injuries. Can the chain-snatcher be charged with murder?
In these two very different cases, being argued coincidentally this month before New York State's Court of Appeals, death occurs after a violent, Rube Goldberg-like series of events. But whether such a death can be translated into a murder charge is the question that the state's top judges will address. Criminal-law experts familiar with the cases say they pose classic legal issues. Issue of Double Jeopardy
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The strangulation case, argued last week, brings a novel issue before the court having to do with double jeopardy, which bars multiple prosecutions for the same offense.
The second, to be argued on Tuesday, takes up felony murder -- a death that occurs during the commission of another violent felony -- and may sharpen guidelines for how directly linked a fleeing felon's actions and the subsequent death must be for a murder indictment. Decisions are expected within six weeks.
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In oral arguments last week, the successive legal problems in the double jeopardy case, stacked like Russian nesting dolls, clearly intrigued the judges.
On May 18, 1990, Ronald Latham, then a 23-year-old hospital nurse from Watervliet, saw his girlfriend, Marie Shambeau, a 22-year-old secretary from Rensselaer, being dropped off at home late at night by an old boyfriend. According to his lawyer, F. Stanton Ackerman, Mr. Latham went into Ms. Shambeau's bedroom, choked her and stabbed her in the throat and the side with a pair of scissors. A few hours later she was discovered by her parents. Health Worsened After Plea
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Ms. Shambeau was permanently paralyzed from the neck down and placed on a respirator. Eventually, her health improved slightly and rehabilitation began. Mr. Latham pleaded guilty to attempted murder in January 1991 and is now serving a 7 1/2-to-22 1/2-year prison sentence.
But in February, Ms. Shambeau's health worsened: she suffered a stroke, then pneumonia and died on March 6. When a Schenectady County medical examiner tied her death to a "pattern of events" that resulted from Mr. Latham's assault, the Rensselaer County District Attorney's office indicted him on a charge of second-degree murder, which carries a minimum sentence of 15 years and a top sentence of 25 years to life.
The trial judge dismissed the indictment, saying that it constituted double jeopardy. The appellate division said it did not.
A New York State law does include an exception to the double jeopardy ban, in circumstances of "delayed death." Based on a 1983 case in which a man convicted of reckless endangerment was later charged with murder, the law says that if a victim dies, a defendant may indeed be subsequently charged in that death, as long as the first crime was not a "homicide offense." What Does Death Change?
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In Mr. Latham's case, the trial judge held that attempted murder, the crime to which Mr. Latham pleaded guilty, was indeed a homicide offense, and so created a double jeopardy problem.
In her argument before the Court of Appeals last week, the Rensselaer County District Attorney, Mary O. Donohue, said that while attempted murder and murder have almost identical elements, death makes them separate crimes, and so the first is not a homicide offense.
Moreover, she said, as a matter of public policy, when a victim lingers, as Ms. Shambeau did, neither side's interest in swift justice would be served by waiting to learn whether she would live or die before proceeding with an indictment.
But, Ms. Donohue said in a recent interview, "a victim who dies a slow, painful death" should not be denied justice. Indicting Mr. Latham for murder, she said, was appropriate. Duty to Warn Defendant
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Mr. Ackerman said the new murder charge set off problems that the prosecution had not considered. Chief among them was Mr. Latham's guilty plea, which typically signals finality in a case. In accepting the sentence, Mr. Latham admitted in open court that he had tried to murder Ms. Shambeau. But according to rules of evidence, those statements could be used against him in a murder trial. Conviction would be almost certain.
Before the guilty plea was accepted, was it the obligation of the prosecution or Mr. Latham's lawyer to tell the defendant that murder charges would be sought if Ms. Shambeau died? Apparently, neither did.
A ruling by the Ohio Supreme Court last month in a similar double-jeopardy case might offer a solution, Mr. Ackerman told the judges. The Ohio court said that if prosecutors wanted to preserve their right to bring murder charges later, they must give the defendant fair warning during plea bargaining. And because they had not, the Ohio court said the defendant could not be indicted for murder. Officers Died in Chases
Next week's felony-murder arguments involve two cases, one in the Bronx, the other in Manhattan. Both cases involve fleeing felons and police officers who died chasing them. In a related case in November, the Court of Appeals ruled that a defendant could be charged with felony murder, even though in a gun battle, an officer died from a bullet most likely fired by another officer.
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In New York State, the test for felony murder is foreseeability: could the defendant have reasonably foreseen that the direct result of his first crime might be death?
The test was developed in a landmark 1974 case, People v. Kibbe, in which the defendant left a robbery victim, partly undressed, drunk and without his glasses, on a dark road in subfreezing weather. The victim was soon struck by a truck and died. The Court of Appeals ruled that when the defendant abandoned the victim, such a tragic outcome was foreseeable, and so he could be charged with felony murder even though he himself did not kill the victim.
But how attenuated can that link be, particularly when the defendant is trying to escape an officer, not kill him? In next week's cases, lower courts have disagreed. The Appellate Division ruled that in the 1988 Bronx chain-snatching case, the defendant, Alexander Brown, should not have been tried for felony murder, because his underlying crimes -- the armed robbery of the chain and the police car -- were not directly related to the death of the housing officer. Gruesomeness Aids Suspect
Although a jury acquitted Mr. Brown of that murder charge, he was convicted of other crimes. The appellate division reversed his convictions and ordered a new trial, ruling that the admission of the gruesome details of the officer's death had prejudiced the case.
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But the Manhattan felony-murder case brought a different response from the appellate division. In 1989, Eddie Matos and his co-defendants were thwarted by police officers as they tried to rob a McDonald's in Times Square at 3 A.M. Mr. Matos scrambled onto a roof and an officer pursuing him fell down an air shaft and died. There was no conclusive evidence whether Mr. Matos pushed the officer or if he tripped, but Mr. Matos was tried and convicted of felony murder.
The Appellate Division affirmed the conviction and the sentence, 25 years to life.
@@seanx3999so you saying blaming the police for niggas killing up each other for gang rags and gold chains......that's why black people stuck........we dont take accountability for our ACTIONS!
YEA, MUCH LOVE 2 THE NATION...
Definitely going to be one of your GREATS!!!!🔥🔥🔥
This is actually Big U’s second interview with Kev Mac.
4th
Big U interview...I wondering if you was going to do one on him. Kev Mac been serving us with that flame, I m still waiting the Schrunchy interveiw, I guess I betta watch out...yes indeed. This year is all you brotha
Avery Chambers This is actually Big U’s second time on Kev Mac.
@@KuriousJay3000 you know what fam you right. Right on
Great interview
Much love BIG-U. If I ever come up on a major bag. I'm a bless you big homie. Thats my good word.💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Love coming back to watch these history video’s
Nothing but the utmost respect Big Draws
Did Big U have a notorious rep because he was nice with the Karate/Martial Arts? He seems like he was just destroying fools back in the day.
Damn he look like comedian Earthquake 😂😂
yandere girls He really do tho and kind and of got a similar voice 2
I watch these interviews just to hear that sick ass beat at the end 😂😂😂
When is part 2 dropping? Damn this shit was good
That intro is SO MFin hard 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I remember in 91 I had a few traffic tickets warrants and they thru me 4800 in accident I was suppose be put somewhere else ....and I still have nightmare from that place
Cool story bro...
This was lit💥
@Kevmac hands down this platform is ground zero for honest material...💙♿👍🏾
I wish we had a Kev Mac type blogger for the brothers here in Chicago but the problem with that is that most of the old heads are either buried in the penitentiary or have moved away. And Chicago being the stand up city that it once was back in the day, the old heads like myself ain't gone talk to you anyway.
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Love that westcoast intro and out music who is that.
Digital West ! He's on Instagram
S Mac specialize in Cliffhangers. Always leaving us guessing at end. Another solid interview
Do another Big Mizz interview Kev.
He is mine top 3
Unc did a solid h60d interview. ✌🏿👍🏿
Amazing video.
This one was anticipated like Monster Kody!
This is going to be epic !
You can see the pain in his face when he had to mention his murder cases @18:00 . Keep fighting that struggle ✊🏿
Bro said he had alot of "hot ones" standing strong through it all? That's how hard it is to be a real OG
This is dope Kev
You ain't gonna mess with me with a knife. Thanks for bringing it
Kev Mac Da Truth Giving Real Game From Both Sides Salute 2 U Nd Da Real Give History Nd Knowledge About Da Set
Big Mizz is my Guy dude personality is contagious
We don't even innerstand that Kev is coming in the spirit of a Griot peace God big homie KevMac
Got the autobiography of Dr. Malcolm X sitting on my night stand collecting dust. Need to pick it up and finish it.
Tiny "Debo" said his character in Friday was based on Big U. When he said, what you gon do with that gun but make me mad? Tiny said, that's exactly what Big U said.
Live & In Living Color THE REAL DEEBO🤣😂🤣💯 Shii Crazy!
Debbo was based on a nigga from Watergate crip . Dj Pooh hommie....the nigga that wrote the movie....Big U was a beast too tho .....but I never felt his energy was truly positive....just my personal experience with cuz.....SIP THUNDER CAT2
@@OVAHILL_TH60D.da1st tiny lister says he based deebo on big u
@@dontgetittwizted trust me I know who the real debo was ... Tiny was a actor in the movie ..Dj Pooh and Cube created the movie.....so again Debo was based on a nigga from Watergate crip ....DJ POOH HOOD....BIG U IS FROM 60s but think what you want my guy
@@OVAHILL_TH60D.da1st you might get away with that info if it weren’t on KMV already 😂
Great interview Homie!
🗣️"HIP H52VER SAM!!" 👉🏾👈🏾 💤 HIGH IN THA SKY FOR U ALWAYS!!
32:43 heard Cobby Supreme say his name on "Shed a Tear' with Nipsey. Another WS Kiwe Classic. Im tapped in.
@D Tomo Cobby supreme...Bob..Bobby...oh shit! ok lol
Damn Intro 🔥
Big U coming through like vinsanity in the Olympics trying to jumper over the other interviews to that number 1spot. He dropping heat and it's just the first interview DAMN!!!!
🏴☠️The Marathon continues🏁
“Slim, big slim, n lil slim”
Joker, big joker, n baby joker
😂😂😂😂
Those are hood names the big is the first any one who come after is his little homies ( big, little, baby, tiny, infant, newborn)
Good interview kev mac. Love that shit
And I swear Big U look Like Young Roland off The Wood 😂😂😂 in his younger days lol
Much respect from the Sip.
@kev mac we need dat peedie wacc interview🔥🔥🔥
So.. im back on pt 1... but the options youtube gives me doesn't include part 2. Big Kev... 👀
Kev Mac we respect Big U in South Africa
Put some respect on kev Mac name
Big U Dad was a Black Stone running with Chief AKA Jeff Fort
Dope video. When you gonna go to SSCC?? I see yall have ties with Santana Blocc but would be good to see SSCC
@kevmac is big U a founder of RSC or second generation?
robert quinones what was kev mac reply? He deleted it
@yellowking Idk I didn't see it