Dark Season 3 Ending Explained
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2020
- The Netflix Series 'Dark' has completed its final cycle and come to an end. What did the ending of season 3 mean? What are the messages and themes contained within this brilliant series? Here are my thoughts and theories. Please share yours in the comments so we can continue the conversation and learn from each other!
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My couch rating system:
5 - A must watch - do not pass this one up
4 - It's really good, you should see it
3 - It's OK - maybe good for a rental
2 - It's not that good and I wouldn't recommend it
1 - It's terrible and I definitely don't recommend it
0 - Cutting off a finger is better than watching this
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In fact, HG Tannhaus was the most successful person in this series. 🔥🔥Without even realising he created the time machine to bring back his dead son alive. And no one in the original world knows this. Not even the man who made the time machine. 🔥🔥🔥🤯🤯🤯 Time machine was created so that time machine won't be created. 🤯🤯🤯
So genius!!
The snake eating itself
The time machine saved his family, and then healed itself so it was never created. Doesn't this, though, mean that natural time was altered? The course of events, in the world, have changed.
help, why Tannhaus was never seen travelling?
Exactly, he was actually successful and for him it only took an instance.
Just as a random insight I just got. Young Ulrich is showing the ultimate fate from the start. His leather jacket has the line "No Future" written on his back; and someone painted it on the concrete parking lot of the powerplant where we see middle age Helge trying to wash it off (to limited success), showing what the show is about as well: this world has no future because it should not exist in the first place!
Yeah. It's not even open to speculation. That guy wore No Future on his back for years, and then had none. He was an ass, but still, two different women came to get him out of an institution he had been in for years, and both women left him stuck in there. That is some depressing shit. Hell, I'm glad the man had no future
A book named 'No future'was also kept in world B in Martha's house..(it was yellow colored)
@@guyjperson But one of the women tried to get him out. She just died. Why are you glad that he had no future? So mean.
A text from The Sex Pistols album Anarchy in the UK I believe.
As a Physics enthusiast I must say, this show is Physics at its finest.
I've been championing this fact too. No one else seems to talk about it. It makes the seemingly outrageous scifi craziness grounded and simply adds to how impressive it all really is.
I've been championing this fact too. No one else seems to talk about it. It makes the seemingly outrageous scifi craziness grounded and simply adds to how impressive it all really is.
Well, it actually isn't that accurate in terms of physics, it makes up some things to explain the interplay between the concepts in the second season
Aryan Bhatta Fake ass physics ye.
As someone who studied physics at a university I second "ass fake physics", well it's based on those popular books that sell you arcane theoretical musings as fact.
Dark is the Mercedez S Class of Scifi. German precision at its finest.
you mean the Mclaren
@@coooolibri Mclaren is British.
More like porche 911 ,refined over and over to perfection
Ok can you explain this logic mistake to me then? Why did Adam send Magnus and Franziska to alternate Martha to save him? Cuz the Jonas that doesnt get saved by Martha becomes Adam. The one that does get saved ends up getting killed by alternate Martha 2 (from the loophole). So how would Adam remember being saved by alternate Martha and sending his guys to make sure it happens again when his personal past did not contain being saved by any Martha?
@@andyreacts Because it had already happened. By the time that happened Adam had already sent Magnus and Franziska to get Martha 2, Martha 2 had already saved jonas and alternate Martha 2 was sent back to Eva's world, and Adam had already killed Martha 2 and realized it didn't work. No logical mistake at all.
"The bridge is closed" the most simple and satisfying dialogue at the end. A message for us, as well as an information for Tannhaus' son.
omg.... ahhhh that gave me goosebumps i didn't realize that double symbolism when i finished the show yesterday. so good!!!
The actor who plays Woller acidentally got hit in one of his eye and had to put a bandage on it hence the director decided to come up with this joke.
While everyone was wondering what happened to his eye, so instead of resolving that they gave us a Woller with no hand...Lol
@@akashvig5007 I laugh so hard at that I know I shouldn't ve but man that crack me up
@@diegoadriandlc5273 i laughed as well man...Also, this show has so so less scenes to laugh...
@@akashvig5007 yeah that's about it to laugh at least this season.
Is this true?
Funny Fact: Louis Hofmann (Jonas) said in an interview that even he was super confused about the show because he was concentrated playing his character. He was only following his part of his story as the character was.
The triqueta was on our face just as the mirrorworld represented in the opening of the show. Is just so brilliant put together everything so well planned.
I love how the daughter, together with her mother, steals her own mother from herself :D
i actually didnt get that logic...
@@saisindhuja8829 Baby Charlotte is taken from Noah and Elisabeth in 2041. She is kidnapped by older adult Elisabeth and adult Charlotte, who both bring baby Charlotte to H. G. Tannhaus in the 70s. So the daughter (Elisabeth) steals her mother (Charlotte, who's of course also her daughter) from herself, since her younger adult self just got the baby not long ago. But all of that is shown in Ep. 7 of season 3.
Who was born first ?
@@mahakfule2426 depends on how you look at it. Elisabeth was born in 2011 and Charlotte in 2041, but does it even matter?
@@leoburkart435 but why did they do that?
When Jonas and Martha traveled to origin world and tried to stop the Car of Tannhaus's son , for a moment I thought shit they both are responsible for accident, only because of them it all happened and loops and paradox will begin again 😜
Same here, coz in Jonas world, he was responsible for his father hanging.
I thought the same!!!
Same!
Same! 😂🤦♂️
I know that the show is over , and won’t probably get picked up or something , but Jonas and Martha traveling to the origin world and fixed everything will change their fate but won’t change the rest everything will still keep happening, just think the end is the begging Martha and Jonas saving Charlottes parents, and the begging is the end Time repeating itself over and over again .
I really thought in the last moment Jonas & Martha would end up appearing on the bridge which would cause the car accident on first place and started the infinite loop again.😁😅😅
Me too 😅
Me too
Me too, actually I think in the way they appeared on the road made us think that they will be the cause of the incident, it was set on purpose to cash from us that last one breath!
me too!
That part scared the crap out of me.
What we know is a drop What we don't know is an Ocean
Lol. True in the show and in real life when we try to understand the show. What a marvelous amazing series. Maybe the best ever for the complexity and actually wrapping it all up correctly!!
@@AK13133 For me its the best show ever made
It’s also the resolution to the Dunning-Kruger effect. 😁
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
Remind me so much of Life is Strange
@@jalisciajackson1109 Fear is the worst enemy of progress.
@@jalisciajackson1109 The game was a masterpiece.
@@nilaydupare6983 The ending kinda sucks though
This was the best ”Dark Ending Explained” I’ve seen so far!
I like that you mention the theme of Ariadne and the St. Christoffer necklace. There’s a song during the montage where The Unnamed is conceived following the theme of the metaphor of the string of Ariadne.
St. Christoffer protects travellers. We follow the medal back trough time where Egon gives it to Hannah, who then gives it to Helene, who loses it while fighting her travelling daughter in 1986. He did not protect a traveller, but the owner of the medal, Helene. Then Jonas finds it and gives it to Martha. Did he take it with him when his Martha was killed? My memories of Season 2 are fuzzy.
Yes i love that song about labyrinth and ariadne, do you know the name of song?
@@tikypatil17 Asaf Avidan - The Labyrinth Song
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@@dsdsds636 thank you
@@tikypatil17 it's called the labyrinth song by asaf avidan
Thank you!! I think Helene originally had the medal adn then when she loses it and Jonas finds it, it begins the neverending cycle...but I could certainly be wrong :-)
Katharina may not be named Katharina in the Prime world, because Hannah never travels back under her name and meets Helena and so inspiring her to call her future daughter so 🤔🤷🏻♀️
Also also actually actually!!!!!
When Jonas gets shot and dies, the two family threes around him look like angel wings
But the origin world WAS first, so Katharina has always been named so. My understanding of it is that during creation of the two worlds some of the events from original world received different "causes", because there were so many new characters influencing the reality
I'm also thinking it might be similar to how our dreams are influenced by reality, so there might be real characters or pieces of real events all being part of some crazy story. Martha opens up a possibility that the two worlds are like a dream in the very end
Not likely. Katharina exists in the origin world, so her being called Katharina in the other worlds is an echo of that original reality. The REASONS for events change, but the events still happen. So she can be named Katharina for different reasons in different alternate realities.
In the original timeline Woller has a family with Hannah, I like to think his eye and missing arm in the two new timelines reflect how he's missing something due to the loop, and his ominous looks to Ulrich have a deeper meaning.
I was thinking on the finale and I realized that they didn't really destroyed anything. They just created another world and another loop. Because if Martha and Jonas stop the accident, they cease to exist and their worlds with them, but if they cease to exist then there's no one to stop the accident and Tannhaus still builds the time machine and accidentally creates the other two worlds. So, like in the schrödinger's cat theory, the two alternate worlds both exist and don't exist at the same time, and the origin world itself is split in two: in one world the accident happens and the time machine is built, in the other the accident never happens and the time machine is never built. And so the cycle continues. The beginning is the end and the end is the beginning.
If we throw the idea of the Schrodinger's cat into the mix, there's no need to worry about paradoxes. Jonas and Martha arrived at the original world at the precise moment when time stopped; so in this moment, all 3 realities exist in superposition with each other, but only in that moment, like the cat scenario where he is alive and death at the same time until we "measured it". But when they stop the accident, it's equivalent to "measure" a quantum particle, which makes the superposition collapses and the "particle" is now in one place only. Better saying, the original world is the cat, and they prevent the accident while the box was still closed. Preventing the accident is equal to open the box and seeing that the cat is, for example, alive.
That's an explanation for the Big Bang as well. How can something be created out of nothing? In the quantum world, it's entirely possible. So, back to the finale, it's not a paradox; they both existed to prevent the accident, and never existed at the same time "because quantum mechanics said they could", hahauhaahaha
Woller: I want to tel you about what happened to my eye, but you have to keep it a secret!
Director: lets flip the power switch and conclude the show, please!
I feel like we should crowd fund a half hour, standalone ep, where Woller decides to take up fly fishing....but is very very bad at it.
the letter Clausen received in season 2 was written by 'no name' (Adam and eve's son). What is written in the letter is exactly the same that 'no name' said to 1888 TanHouse when they killed him. The letter is very important because it is the letter that makes Calusen go to Winden and makes Charlotte open the yellow barrils that make the apocalypse happen in Adam's world
I've been wondering about the purpose of Claussen and Boris/Aleksander myself and your theory makes the most sense. Now that I think about it, it's also when Claussen insists on questioning Regina again (with Charlotte having to drive him there) that she gives them Stranger Jonas' things which leads Charlotte to look deeper into the clues on her wall and things started to make sense for her. I think Claussen was meant to be a catalyst, and there would be no Claussen without Boris/Aleksander.
@@avajohnson6992 exactly! And since the triplets where the ones that made up for the loose ends, then they sent the letter for all the next events to happen.
I call them the triple threat lol
Those awkward family relations is actually one of the dilemmas that was meant to be tackled and resolved by this time travel series. That using time travel instead of making a paradise without suffering actually does the opposite: causing murders, messing up peoples lives, kidnappings and missing persons, unknowing consanguinous couplings, using this power for their own personal agenda, apocalypse, and so much death. It was meant to be messed up and dark to show what would happen if time travel were to exist.
Adam and Eva also played an important role as they are both a product of this dilemma. That their desires is NOT meant to be glorified but rather have it seen as something not right, like every dark aspect of the show. I remember myself having this 'no God stop' feeling whenever they have sex or kiss after knowing they wer auntie and nephews. It was meant to be this way and it was perfectly executed. I also like how Jonas/Adam at first accepting their role in the cycle like not returning Mikkel to the real timeline and Adam doing some maintaining of the destiny, which in the end had some character development to finally wanting to end it all but dont know how, and their methods (Adam murdering Eva and vice versa) is actually all predestined... until Claudia did something and figured out how to undo everything, inspired by wanting to save her daughter die from cancer.
It was really a well put series since episode one. Time travel in different timelines, the existence of quantum entanglement where both worlds collide, parallel worlds, etx. And it ended beautifully.
I just started watching season 3 tonight...i want so badly to watch this video, but I will be back when I reach the end.
Yeah, don't watch this until you've finished the show...that way you get to fully enjoy it and be confused, surprised, sad and happy, etc!
Yeah,But the beginning is the end...!!!😂😂😂
*What did you think of the ending?*
This is hands down the best tv series ever made, "The Leftovers" comes close, but this is *the best* in the *history* of *television* . Fight me.
The writing, the tone, the acting, the complexity and thematic depth and ambition of its narrative, the soundtrack, the coloring.... everything screams perfect television.
My favorite thing about the amazing ending, was that Jonas and Martha are actually a very good representation of human existence (personal reference here don't come at me) as they just cease to exist, as if their love was never really there, disappearing and fading into nothingness, with no one to remember it, or remember them; it's love for love's sake, and that is actually what human existence is really like: life for life's sake. One day, hopefully a long time from now, human life won't exist any longer, and there will be no one to remember it, everything we do and are exists and ends with the human race. People remember people and that is how they keep existing, but one day there won't be anyone to remember us anymore, nor what we did or who we were. It will all just turn quiet forever.
I also love that "the quote" changed. At the lake it was " I think we are a perfect match" (ich finde wir beiden passen perfekt zusammen), and at the end it simply is "We are a perfect match" (wir passen perfekt zusammen), and they don't kiss, they hold hands, because he is not her Jonas and she is not his Martha. Everything went the way it was supposed to.
SPOILERS
What was amazing with this show is that everything were in front of our faces from the beginning: The third world was there...at the intro for season 1 at the last seconds and during the "DARK" logo at the end we can see two worlds at the right which are mirrors and at the left the third "original" world. So why is the left one the "original"? DARK logo is displayed only at the right side between the two worlds, so the dark matter is at those. There are some other places at the first season intro where the third world was visible. The most obvious one is at the intro for season 2. Near the end of the intro we can see three bodies of (Claudia?) that got covered.
DARK was mystery making you thought about how all those are connecting. It gave you hints and hints without revealing the 'reality' easily to you. It just did it when was necessarily to continue the plot. At the right time. Mikkel and Michael was there. The letter with the 'right time to open' was there. It gave you circles and then started to make the events 'linear' for us to understand.
Now for the end. What it is strange for me is Hanah's Deja Vu and after she says that she is thinking name the baby Jonas. I believe what the producers wanted to say finishing the series like that is that all things in life are happening in circles. So eventually there will be another Jonas and Martha, another 'errors in the matrix', another 'event' that will have the same result.
But It wouldn’t have the same result
Cause it is the “perfect “world with no pain or suffering or continuous tragedy everyone here are satisfied
This is the best review so far. Very simply explained. Thanks!
This is the best breakdown I’ve seen so far! Thank you so much!
I love the series, but I hate almost all of the characters. Some scenes were really hard to watch. I was sitting there, screaming at the TV: "JUST TELL THEM THE GOD-DAMN TRUTH!", but they kept lying to eachother, they kept cheating on eachother. It was so frustrating. But because the story was so captivating, engaging, I kept watching and I'm glad I did.
They didn't tell the truth because they were manipulating them or couldn't because that's all they knew at that specific moment.
this is the best explanation video i seen so far for season 3...
Thanks for offering some clarity!
I'm glad it helped!
This is a great explanation! One thing I would correct regarding the motivations of Adam and Eva - Adam was hoping to destroy both worlds. He thought when he destroyed the origin that the world would end. For some reason he didn't realize that there was another pregnant Martha that would grow into Eva and perpetuate the cycle (the one taken by Bartosz before she could bring Jonas to alt-world.) Eva's plan was to continuously perpetuate the cycle, thereby "saving" both worlds. Her plan actually worked an infinite amount of times until Claudia figured out a way to simply remove the characters tied up in the knot and restore the original world.
Favourite season 3 video so far. Loved it and great work!
Thanks!
Very clear and concise.
I really like how these paradoxes work (the ones where you are you own grandmother). While two parallels worlds constantly creating a lot of time-paradoxes and imposible things, the origin world trying to be paradox free and created just main one. The origin world and subworlds even have different laws of physics. It's like the Universe itself trying to get rid of paradoxes. I love this time travelling concept that you can't time travel in the your real world, only in parallels worlds but they would be so messed up that the Universe do anything possible to prevent you from time travelling in the first place.
p.s. Thank you for you deep analyz, it's been really intersing. And also thank you for the explanation why Regina didnt end up with Boris/Aleksander, it's make sense. And I've been looking forward creators to explained his story bu this never happened and he sort of left like a mistery guy.
Wow this is amazing , you explain the table scene , perfectly
You gave the best recap! Thanks!!!!
Appreciate it!
Awesome summary
I love every aspect that you mention in your video, i totally loved it. Thank you for share your thoughts. You helped me to understand some parts.
I'm glad it helped!
Was curious about this series, looking forward to watching it, Ty!
Oh, it's so good! Don't delay...start bingeing immediately :-)
What an incredible explanation of the ending. You captured so many details I missed. Darn, I’m going to have to watch the whole thing all over again! It was a very well told and intricate tale. Loved it.
Thanks! I'm excited to rewatch because I'm quite certain I've missed a lot of little details along the way!
Awesome review! I'm amazed at little details I missed even when I was hyper focused on everything. Like the worlds and the triquetra. Also, young Charlotte kept questioning the possibility of bringing people back from the day. I assumed she meant her parents but I now think it was a clue to the conversations she was having with Tannhaus. And was he really crazy. But we didn't really have a concrete reason to focus on him at the time. Great writing.
Time is the Minotaur.
Martha: Ariadne
Jonas: Theseus
H.G. Tannhaus: Daedalus
Egeo (Theseus's father): Michael (Jonas' father)
Winden: Creta
this is the best video explaining Dark
god bless you man ❤
Appreciate it!!
Really great review
Thank you!
The first words out of your mouth, I've been saying for 3 years now to everyone I know. Thank You for those words. You speak the facts!!
Wow the best explained video, I have seen till now.
Waller in Jonas world has one damaged eye,
Waller in Martha world has one arm missing.
Waller in real world just had a scratch beneath his eye.
They didn't explain anything about him at all
Great review, thank you! And btw: you pronounced the German names really well
Thank you!
One show this does among its many feats is it doesn't have comedy relief in it. There is irony but it's a tragedy. Even shows nowadays that are that always throw in some comic relief . It wasn't necessary so it wasn't there that's something I respect among the other amazing things in the show.
Literally the best review of the season yet.
Hi Chris,
I completed Season 3 and like many others, I am also a huge fan of this show and after seeing the ending, I respect the show even more.
One thing I would like to tell you specially is that, I am checking out many videos of "Ending Explained" and when I checked out yours, I found it most satisfying. The way you explained was perfect and thank you for that.
I really appreciate that, thank you! I'm glad it helped! I was afraid they'd screw up the show with a poor ending, but I'm so glad they nailed it and executed it so well!
Movies And Munchies yeah, the ending was beautiful and unlike many time travel movies or series, this make sense in the end.
Wow makes so much more sense now. thank you
Glad it helped!
Great recap and explanation! So many knots to untangle. I absolutely loved the full circle of Dark, but a few things will continue to haunt my quest to know everything...
I have to assume Jonas’ mutation into Adam physically was left on the cutting room floor. I have a feeling it just wasn’t shaping up to the quality of the show’s impeccable visuals so it was cut, and we get the slightly earlier version of Adam we see in the show.
I wonder how Helge (being as odd as he is in both split timelines) manages a relationship or semblance of one to birth Peter.
Lastly (in this rant anyway) do we ever see that OG Hannah isn’t both Hannah’s?
I like the idea of angels which was was hinted at in the end. It was even mentioned by Tannhaus' daughter in law quoting his son. Jonas and Martha were like two angels that saved a family from dying in a car crash. Imagine that time travel always results in endless knots which eventually always get undone. In the end always something that goes wrong before the knot is formed is fixed by those trapped in the knot who appear to be angels which eventually dissolve into emptiness.
Your explanation s really good.. Can you make a complete breakdown of season 3 and if at all possible, a full explanation of all 3 seasons? That would be so cool! I liked how you explained the 'could-not-have-happened' stuff and many other insights. This is a lot better than few other reviews :)
Good job!!
Thanks! I did an explanation of S2 a while back, and the comment section is gold with everyone sharing thoughts and theories.
@@MoviesAndMunchies Thank you.. Will check that out.. Anyways, your explanation was great thogh for this video.. Really good insights!
Best explanation I've ever seen 😍😍😍.. loved your content sir..
Appreciate it! Thank you!
Back again my man
Perfect explanation...
Another is that it was well-thought upon that almost all the aspects of time travel is tackled and put together in this series:
So what will happen if time travel exist and:
1. You met the murderer of your relative as a child.
2. Choose to live in the past and disappear from your own timeline.
3. Prevent a disaster before it happens.
4. Commit a crime in the past.
5. You meet your younger self
And many many more. Lol.
Excellent 😊👌
Most confusing is still Elizabeth Charlotte relationship
This is the explanation that is the most in depth on this show, good work boss.
I appreciate that, thanks!
I really love your interpretation which makes me appreciate the show even more. Now it makes a lot of sense. I honestly wasn't satisfied with the ending but after hearing your interpretation it is much clearer why things happen (or didn't happen) and made me realize how it can affect so many people involved. Thank you for your explanation.
I'm really glad it helped!
Congrats on being the only youtuber that tries to explain the metaphors and logic of season 3 and the entire series in your Explaination whereas the rest just recap what you've already just watched.
Cool video! The part with Katharina in the lake totally got me. Spooky! I would really like to watch your review of Jonas/Adam storyline. I guess I need to rewatch season 3 since I am since missing the part becoming Stranger, I understand it happened in the future with Claudia, but there he got after giving Michael idea to suicide. Then they left with claudia, he come back to the day of apocalypse to get Claudia to bunker and in one reality Jonas get killed by Martha, in other he stay in the house, so I guess he dies during the apocalypse, but nothing much is seen (or did I miss something?) and in third possibility he goes to the origin world. But that's still young Jonas. Then he is in the future and knows about Martha's death and became Stranger but when did he got there? Also if there is a loop, how will Adam die? I guess I just miss some sentence. I have fastwatched season 3 in 1 day. :D Also how come he travelled to the future touching young Helge? Shouldnt the swap be involving only their timelines? Since Elisabeth took Charlotte into hers? But I guess the portal just take you to the end of timeline. I need some clarity or my head will just explode :D
Very well explained, especially those tiny details and easter eggs I totally ignored.
Again I am very proud of German series making. As a German, I often don't like German movies and series but the Netflix' series 'Dark' and 'Ku'Damm' really impressed me.
Hey, great video! To clear up the question about Adams disfigurement: It was mentioned in season 2 that Adams body becomes scarred because of time travel. We are not shown where he travels to or what he does, but we see beginnings of scarring on stranger Jonases back in the sex scene in season 2.
Hi, l really enjoyed your video. I just wanted to add that l thought from the beginning of the series that there were 3 worlds based on the intro. I was on a Facebook group and when l posted this one of the people from the series made a post.
Right on!
Thank you very much for this video! This is the first time I really understood the plot👏 I tried watching other videos that made me even more confused than before🤦♀️ I think Dark is best watched three series one after the other otherwise a lot of things get forgotten and it’s hard to catch some interesting facts.
I totally agree with watching it all together, you really get to see how they're connected and pick up on smaller items. I'm excited to rewatch the series again and see what all I missed!
Bravo!
Wow! I just finished Dark and I GET IT! Everything finally came together. Most of 3 was a struggle, and I just couldn’t get into it, but the last 2 episodes made sense. At the very end when Hanna said the name of her baby- I just knew it! That was perfect! I didn’t notice the opposites you mentioned. I mean, I saw them but nothing registered! Good wrap up!
Such a great series, right?
The intro was biggest hint 🔥🙏
Another very subtle easter egg: The intersection with the bus-stop. In Jonas world it is on the left, in Evas on the right and in the original world center on the other street.
Absolutely loved it made my weekend. Beautiful the passion between Martha and Johnas was So real it has to be said the emotions each actor put into One scene alone... was sometimes mesmerising. I think u got it right Chris it has no flaws in this world . Alas in an other it will.
Germanic. Good review 💯💚
Was this your first time watching? Oh man, I LOVE this series! I'm probably going to have to carve out some time soon to watch again from start to finish!
@@MoviesAndMunchies there is so much to take in. 😊
This is the best review ive seen so far. Thank you!!
Appreciate it! Thank you!
The only thing that is not really conclusive is the thing with Schrödinger's cat. So that time suspended during the apocalypse for "a few miliseconds" (again: time cannot suspend for a unit of time, but ok) and causality with it. So there were two Jonas and two Marthas. In the series itself, this was called a loophole, and it was. It was a necessity so that a change could be introduced in a reasonably logical way. Otherwise everything would be fixed and the protagonists would never have been able to dissolve the two worlds! This could also be the place where the timeline is repeated. Only during the apocalypse, for those few milliseconds, can changes be made. One can do two mutually exclusive things at the same time. That makes for the dual existence of humans. Only as soon as they leave the (I call it) "causality gap", they are part of causality again.
Yes, this aspect makes zero sense. Two realities, yet alt world Martha is able to meet Stranger Jonas in his original reality? And how does the actual 'time stops' mechanic work? We never *see* time stop, we just see stuff happen. Both things feel like a big handwave to allow for change to be mind within what had been clearly established as an immutable self-consistent time loop.
At the end when they are sitting at the dinner table, Hannah speaks of a dream that she had the night before. She tells the guests that she saw in her dreams the destruction of the town and everybody dying. When asked what name she will give her unborn child, she says Jonas. So it starts all over. But the town will not be destroyed by a nuclear plant because that does not exist but still some form of disaster will occur.
Thank you sir for your thoughts about the show and it's ending.
You must have restless nights to figure out all this .. to explain us. .
Good video 👍
Haha, mildly. Thank you!!
I love the fact that you noticed the scars being mirrored. I immediately picked up on the mirror when Martha (in her world,) first came down her stairs to the kitchen in S3E1 but it took me until E5 or so to notice the three unknowns having their lip scar on the other side. This told me they traveled to both worlds. Great stuff!
Chex LeMeneux their from Martha's world because that was her world's function to let herself give birth that's why she makes herself kill Jonas in that world and in Jonas world he kills pregnant Martha so their not born there that's why they don't show up until season 3. That's why they start season 3 with him because Martha's world was introduced at the end of season 2.
We see old Adam send Silja back in time to 1890 to meet Bartosz and have his kids (and keep him there); but we dont see where he (transition Adam) takes here before that. Must be sometime between 2020 (after the apocalypse) and 2052 when she greets young Jonas with her "welcome to the future" line. I dont think we really need to know to what time specifically it was. You can guess what year it was based on her age; but she does not do much apart from gain some rank in the Sic Mundus cult of Elizabeth there. Maybe around 2030ish?
I’m guessing she’s supposed to be around Bartosz’ age when the travels back, so perhaps 18 something? She looks like she’s about 7 when Hannah brings her there the first time. Wonder if she remembers her first encounter with older Bartosz when she goes back there? So I think Adam places her under Elisabeth’s wings sometime after she’s lost her family, in the 2040is.
I think the scars that jonas gets are caused by radiation burning due to the buildup of radiation caused by too much time travel
Did he travel more than anyone else? When did the middle aged Stranger travel? I think it’s more of him being his own guinea pig, because he knows he can’t die.
I don't buy it. By the time of his middle ages, he had DOZENS of trips under his belt, and no scars, (I mean, save the hanging scar). He seems never to have perfected his travelling by the end. How many trips could he have taken? We only see him have take one, as a scarred person...and he was already scarred. The whole series, I expected him to have been in the burned down Sic Mundus hideout trying to save stuff as it burned.
Then wouldn't Eve be also be disfigured , or Claudia? but yeah, it's not clear.
@@T1hitsTheHighestNote that makes perfect sense. The scene in which his arm gets injured is only the beginning.
@@guyjperson hmm i think middle age travels are from already perfected machine. which was made by the clock maker but from what i gathered is he didnt have that suitcase timetraveling machine and got stuck in that place where he was trying to build machine based on the small liquid he got. he see super frustrated that he wasnt working and we dont see that guy's failed attempts in timetravel.. its this time period till his older self. thats a lot of gap he was trying time travel wihout the proper machine.
"No resistance, no obstacle is great enough to stop the human will in its track."
Simply put: Tanhauss's WILL was so strong that he manifested what he wanted despite how unbelievably and insanely impossible it was.
wildly complex but you can follow it.. great statement
Great video... I need some clarity regarding locket of "for charlotte" which was present in the bundle when tannahaus finds charlotte. How did noah get the locket to give to elizabeth..??
You’re the first review I’ve seen that pointed out that Reginas health is likely tied to the plant and that in origin world there is no plant. 👍🏾
I have so many questions...
- Why was Ines torn out from some of the pictures in season 1?
- Peter's story is quite cryptic. For a brief moment I thought he might be Hanna's child in both realities.
- What's the story behind Boris/Alexander and Clausen? Did Klaudia send a letter to Clausen or was it the Nameless Trinity?
- What's the story for the spherical apparatus? We know that the original one was planted by Eva but who planted the round one? Adam?
- What's the point of the chair? It makes completely no sense in both realities.
- What's up with 1800s Tannhauses? The blind man seems very important yet his appearance is very brief and his father is on the photo of Sic Mundus from season 1. And it looks like he is killed in mirrored universe to fetch the "for Charlotte" clock.
The show is sometimes so confusing that I probably misunderstood some events so please feel free to explain.
- I think Hannah ripped Ines out of the photo because she doesn't get along with her. When Hannah calls her in the first episode, she's angry at her so I assume their relationship was strained and she ripped her out after Michael died.
- Peter was Helge's son from a woman named Ulla. The show doesn't go in too much detail about it but all we know is that he was raised by Ulla and only knew who his father was when his mother died, so he came to Winden to look for him.
- It's not explained much but Alexander killed someone and then he met Regina and decided to stay in Winden because he fell in love with her. We're never told who wrote the letter so it could be anyone
- The spherical apparatus is alt world's version of the time machine. We don't know what it's origin is but it could be similar to that of the time machine in Jonas's world.
- The chair is just a prototype of a time machine. It's mostly important for setting up the course of action that leads Mikkel disappearing, etc
- The Tannhauses are the one that founded Sic Mundus. They wanted to find a way to time travel and blind Tannhaus helped Stranger Jonas and the others
I also have one question ?
@@pp-wk9jd The chair was Noah's private project at attempting to create a time machine of his own. Probably to get Charlotte before she is kidnapped.
wiki calls Ines 'estranged' grandmother. however, jonas is gifting her a tab n teaching her to use it. so yeah, i dunno why.
peter's mother is also never discussed..n that explains why he was winder in 1986 in second world, coz thats when helge is beaten up, unlike in 1953 in first world.
omg yeah! we never came to know how the world travelling sphere was made. we know the time machine apparatus was made by tanhaus with help frm jonas, claudia n ulrich's phone
lol yea :'D noah n helge cud already travel thru cave..then why the chair was being made at all xD xD n why did the kids need to be killed like that as experiments...they cud be killed normally also to maintain the flow right?
yeah right?? i never understood what was the 1800 tanhaus' role. and if tanhaus was doing such experiments in 1800s itself, why the watchmaker had a small shop? wudnt he be filthy rich n have hugeee workshops? n in the original world then, does the bunker belong to him n not the dopplers???
The blind one father was the great grandfather of HG Tannhaus “the clock maker”
Who lost his wife as well and started the sic mundus and worked on time machine to bring her back
That’s why tannhaus daughter called charlotte after his wife
Great review Chris, just subscribed!
How's the claudia that was shot the same one that visited adam?
And how did she know to travel to the origin world with that upgraded time device?
Couldn't she save tanhaus' family since she already traveled there instead of waiting for adam and eve?
Any idea what happened in origin world after tanhaus turns it on ? We aren't told if he does use the device to time travel. And wouldn't it make sense that he'd be the one crisscrossing all three worlds instead of the main characters?
1. Claudia speaks to Adam explains this, then goes back in time to get killed by Noah.
2. Everytime during the apocalypse time stops for a brief minute. During these changes in the cycle can be made. Small changes can change the total outcome. Claudia over many cycles uses this loophole to manipulate herself into finding out about original world.
3. Claudia says that when tannhaus switches on the time machine, the original worls gets toyed into two, aka prime world and alt world we see.
Hope i made sense.
I was wondering if the loophole is only for a minute, seems like Jonas and Martha spent at least 10 minutes in the origin world.
Another great notion is that of giving up hopes and fears. Hopes and fears are extreme emotions. You hope to experience what makes you happy and you fear to experience that which you avert. Only if you give that up, you become free.
I knew the symmetry in the opening sequence had a deeper meaning and is not just an artistic choice. The flipped houses and interiors were also very cool! Not sure why but the saddest moment for me was "Can you keep a secret? I think I saw a witch today." It was just perfect.
What a clever n mind blowing experience. One of a kind. About "TIME" me got an original idea.
This was a great review. Here are some interesting thoughts I have:
A. Really appreciate how they have used the triquetra not just for time but for space as well. Almost like a fractal, which is pretty much consistent with the theme of symmetry in this show.
B. I found it very interesting that the only way the family of Tannhaus could have survived is through the creation of time-travel which allowed Jonas and Alt-Martha to warn them. However, if they were saved, Tannhaus wouldn't have had any reason to invent time-travel, causing his family to be in that accident. This paradox is pretty much a call-back to the Schrödinger's cat experiment wherein both of these states (creation of time-travel thus saving the family and no time-travel thus accident happened) are existing at the same time. I think it takes a very bright and artistic mind to come up with this masterful story
C. As for Silja, I think it was only heavily implied that Stranger-Adam sent her into the future (as she's not right here, in this time)
for B. I understood it as Tannhaus created the 2 worlds accidentally, splitting up his own world quite some time after his family died, making his own world kind of "stop". That would also explain Hannah's dream she mentions at the dinner table in the end, about everything going to black and nothing existing anymore. It then took the 2 worlds and especially Claudia to solve and erase themself while saving Tannhaus family back at the moment before they had their accident. So basically the origin world ended with Tannhaus attempt to bring them back until the 2 new worlds solved themself and then the old world could start over, but with the Tannhaus family alive and without any further time-travel.
C. Makes sense how she got the hazard suit (which exists in the future) with her when she travels back in time to meet Bartosz.
We first meet Silja in 2052 when Jonas is captured by Elisabeth. I suspect Adam took her to around 2040-2045 and let her be taken under the wings of Elisabeth and her Sic Mundus gang. This was after she lost her daughter and Noah went back to 20th century.
ummm...woah. ok now im dual minded. ok. so jonas-martha save the family ONCE and disappear. it means their effort worked right? if the paradox was true, they wudnt disappear right? lol...this is too mind bending xD
definitely a masterwork
Dude !
You NAILED THIS!
Nicely done, sir. Nicely done.
>doff of the thinking cap<
On the use of the Triqueta. I suspected something along the lines of where we ended up as i always see it's use as a signifier of perspective, The positive and negative energies of our electric universe become manifest by the actions and influences of Consciousness, The Observer.
As soon as there were instances to more than just 3 time references, me brain went "Hmmmmm" and i stroked my chin. I didn't totally suss it but i suspected the answer to the question, "What is the 3rd perspective?" would be SOMETHING along the lines of a 3rd "World" or Persons P.O.V. ...and low and behold, it was the actions of the consciousness in a 3rd World that created the split into a positively and negatively charged pair of mirror worlds.
i hope that makes sense. Years of learning and meditation boiled down into a few lines coming out of the Dark.
;)
Totally makes sense!
Martha's scratch. Depending on which world she's in, the scratch switches sides on her face
That was such a cool visual identifier as a clue to us!
I think the 33 years loop came to be because tannahous switched on the time machine in the real world exactly after 33 after his son died ( apocalypse in his real world) which prompted him to build the time machine in the first place...
There is also the solar and lunar cycle theory but I think this fits better...
Amazing video, really is an explanation and personal opinion of the series. Other youtube videos are just a summary. On S3 E5 at the end when you can see all the plates with the names i paused the episode for like and hour and thought had all figured out, specially Tronte plate apearing twice indicating he was in fact Regina´s father. Nice touch there were 3 seasons, completing the Triad effect of what this great tv show meant. Also when Jonas and Martha appeared in front of the car in origin reality i thought for an instant that they would cause the accident in the first place!!!
Thanks! I thought Jonas and Martha were going to be the cause of the accident also!
The most immersive show ever. Take note Hollywood.
This was perhaps the greatest show I’ve ever watched. Just fantastic story telling. Every episode was great, I can’t remember any filler stuff in any of the episodes.
My most favorite show ever!
Great highlights and insights 🥰 I didn’t pick up on the lady at the bottom of the lake nor the fact the power station was never built, makes a lot of sense. I still have questions and maybe you might know...how did Claudia ever guess that the clockmaker was the original origin? My only thought is that she’s just a highly intelligent women (she did run a nuclear power plant!) and my second question...how did Claudia manage to break out of her loop to reveal the origin information to Adam only that one time when she must have been in that loop countless time?
I like how the clockmaker made the time machine/Rift to try and save his son and his family. Which made the worlds to split. But it was his action to make the time machine that saves his son and his family. And he doesn't even know it.
just like Christopher Columbus, who went to explore India end up finding America. lol and never visited India or its Spices :p Clock maker never time travel nor he knew if there were these worlds which were created by his stupid mistake of exploring the time travel theory :p lol i know :p stupid but it is how it is according to the series :p
I realized 2 things: 1) In the origin world, there is a chance that Bartoz could be born. As his father Alexander/Boris Niewald was never part of the family tree/knot, he would still exist in the origin world, meet with Regina and have Bartoz. This would mean only Bartoz can be born again in the origin world.
2) Even though I like Magnus and Franziska, they actually have no real contribution in the 2 worlds. They have no children together that will contribute in the family tree for creating their own existence, and the time older Magnus and Franziska saves alternate Martha before the apocalypse, it could've been done by just about anyone, Elisabeth or Charlotte or even Agnes could have gone saved Martha. No need for Magnus and Franziska. It is disappointing for me because they spent much time on their characters in season 1 and 2, but ultimately have no real contribution.
Let me know what you guys think? My theories might be wrong.
Chances are slim, though. As said, Ulrich doesn't texist, so him and his future wife can't bully Regina, thus he doesn't need to save her from them. There's also no power plant, where he would start to work and her mother would be the boss, so him and Regina wouldn't probably meet that often.
I took it like.. Jonas was always going to be Hannah’s firstborn son. Even if he doesn’t have the same father. Biologically speaking, sure it’s a stretch to consider but so was most of this show. But Dark pulled off its immersion. Some things will always happen. The show has a lot to say about fate.. and how an ending is a beginning.
Everyone will somehow get another chance, Martha will meet Jonas, though things will be different just like the Alt-world.
Magnus had to go to save martha because martha would trust his brother more than agnes or anyone else
@@Campbell464 Well it's not genetically possible for our Jonas to be born in this world because that would require Mikkel's DNA. But it is implied that some version of Jonas will be reborn and possibly a version of Martha too. So they can be together after all.
@@mokshjain3308 You have a point. But in the alternate reality, Bartosz went to stop Martha from saving Jonas. And Martha doesn't even know older Magnus. So their role is not important. But I thought they would have a child together that would contribute to the family tree because they were a huge part of the show. In the end, they didn't influence the story at all.