Yes!! This works omg! I was classically trained (clarinet, bass clarinet, oboe, and alto were my main instruments) and it was so hard for me to get this awesome fuzzy, yet reedy and powerful, sound for jazz sax. i thought it was because I had the wrong mouthpiece but doing this helps regardless of the mouthpiece you have to a large extent. I wish I had found this video sooner >_> lol I also found that if I just loosened up my embouchure and stop pinching so much like I was used to with the clarinet it really helped me to get a much fuller and more natural sax sound.
I just found your channel earlier today out of frustration because i want to sound good and I've used most of your techniques and I've improved more in these past 4 hours than I had in my whole freshman year
Waldvogel45 if your having trouble with low notes, just move your reed back a little. It will cause less resistance against your air flow, therefore making your low notes easier to play. But keep in mind they'll be a bit louder so just practice them more often to get a more wider dynamic range.
This tip really helped me get my sound get bigger but some notes also started squeaking on the top end of the horn but I guess I'll find my way around that. Also all the other videos I have watched have been great (and the chore charts). Making my life and studies so much easier. Best channel on youtube
I have a question for anyone who can answer, but let me start with an explanation... I started on flute, so I learned to tongue with the roof of my mouth with a literal "T" sound. It wasn't until 5 years on alto that I learned that actually tonguing the reed was a thing. I have been recently trying to break this habit by catching myself doing it, but I figured, is it REALLY a bad habit? It doesn't inhibit my sound or clarity of attack, but I got to thinking that it may very well be reducing the speed of my tonguing because of obvious reasons(if my tongue is closer to the reed, I can tongue faster). This brings me to my question and what may be a good topic for a future video: How do I tongue quickly? Say...back-tonguing or Sonny Stitt tonguing at high tempos when soloing. I understand doodle-tonguing, but what about concise and quick tonguing? Any exercises or explanations are extremely welcome.
Hi Fritz, I know what you mean. I've tongued like that in the past, as well. I recommend getting in the habit of tongueing directly on the reed rather than the roof of your mouth. In regards to speed, I think the secret is to make sure you are not restricting your air flow in any way. It is very important to support the speed of your tongue with fast and forward facing air. I think the topic warrants a video, so stay tuned. In the meantime, make sure you're blowing forward when trying to tongue fast.
I think that one of the most important thing to learn on sax is to push out the accents on the right notes to give a good sound. When I play the guitar, piano or sing I can give the right pushy sound on the right notes to sound good but not on the saxophone. When I sing for me it's easy to use the diaphragm but not on saxophone also after years that I play. My licks are too flat bitween the notes. Is there an exercice to improve the "coughy" sound to give great push on the right notes?
Yo Jeff! I've nearly 3 days with my sax...and it goes well, indeed, you know :) Best videos for Sax I've yet met. +1 subscriber, keep on a good job, man!
Sax World, herein, the instructor-in-chief is passionately sharing his great wisdom. Maybe you have already given it to all - the growls and split tones. How does one go about obtaining it/them on, let's say, [high] F# and G - or, on any note (for effects, of course)? In advance, thanks Jeff.
Hi Jeff, Great video, my question is how can you increase speed by using this method, to double tongue, you need to use the tip of the tongue up and down to achieve a consistent "double tongue" effect. By using more tongue, the speed can be reduced, is that a fair observation?? Thanks in advance
Hi Oscar, Glad you liked the video. I think fast tonguing is actually more easily achieved through less and lighter tongue. I wouldn't worry too much about double tonguing. Make sure you keep your air flowing forward. Airflow is key! Good luck.
Good evening sir. Very nice n very tactfully u teach. But if possible u explaine with draw sketch exact position of tung n how we set mouthpiece on lower lip also. And what is the exact position of mouthpiece in mouth. Actually I m bigenner. N started learning last month. Pl draw by pencil if possible n create one video again. Thx n regards. This is Deepak Sachdeva from India
I do not get it right when you're going to play which one and the word you're talking about so you can have the middle part of the language on the palette to have a better sound and better timbre like you said in the video ,? ??? // and another question at the time of exploding, also where I should put my tongue when I explode, as I exploded attacking with the tongue while I'm blowing I put my tongue on the floor, the middle near the palette or I pucho her back , because that changes the sound too ... I'm Brazilian here from Brazil, I'm watching your video with the automatic translation of youtube ai some words go wrong in the translation of the video, then the doubts
just curious.....are you familiar with George Garzone? check out his approach to everything.....from tonguing, to his triad/half step ways of getting from point A to point B.....
your vdeos are so great.Like to have you make a video on how to youse GOST tones betwen blowing real tones.(maybe youse them as pasing tones and variations) Olaf Copenhagen Denmark
Hi Jeff, I've been debating on something : I used to have a hard time keeping sustained notes for a long times (I was basically short breathed). I also used to "drop my jaw". I then stumbled upon Joe Allard's teachings that helped me compress my air well, partially by not dropping my jaw and by creating air pressure in my mouth. This also helped me play without tension. However, even if I can play loud and long, I feel as if I didn't have as full of a sound. Tonight I spoke with a saxophonist who I greatly admire that told me again about dropping my jaw and playing with the cavity of my mouth/throat and blowing out "hot air". But now I wouldn't want to build a technique that uses unnecessary tension and that makes me short-breathed again. What is your take on this? Thank you loads in advance!!
I’m sure you have probably been asked this before in the comments to another video (or maybe this one)...... so sorry for the repeat if that’s the case. But what mouthpiece are you playing on. Is it a Drake? It sounds very opened but still really fat with a good lead alto ‘cut’ to it
I tried to experiment with this techniques today and it is great. Really helpful concept. It just open the sound as you are saying :) But in my opinion these techniques are not good for beginners. For intermediate players are just awesome! Thanks a lot man. P.S. in 2:33 you are sounding just like Kenny Garret :)
I used to have that same problem Christian, but I eventually figured out how to break that habit. It just takes dissecting every single thing that's going on. Any humming of any sort is what adds the growl. Just focusing on a steady air stream is what gives a clear definite tone. Now, the reed pinching is a product of tonguing with the fat part of the tongue. You can eliminate a lot of that pain by trying to make the tongue movement that strikes the reed faster (not harder). I hope this helps!
O.K. right? so it doesn't matter that you don't have a MK 6 like he has - where did this guy get this tongue theory? Never heard that in 40 years of pro playing, why don't you start talking about reeds and mouthpieces?
Yes!! This works omg! I was classically trained (clarinet, bass clarinet, oboe, and alto were my main instruments) and it was so hard for me to get this awesome fuzzy, yet reedy and powerful, sound for jazz sax. i thought it was because I had the wrong mouthpiece but doing this helps regardless of the mouthpiece you have to a large extent. I wish I had found this video sooner >_> lol
I also found that if I just loosened up my embouchure and stop pinching so much like I was used to with the clarinet it really helped me to get a much fuller and more natural sax sound.
I just found your channel earlier today out of frustration because i want to sound good and I've used most of your techniques and I've improved more in these past 4 hours than I had in my whole freshman year
Excellent hair!
haha thanks!
@@JeffSchneiderMusic the main idea of the video😂
wow ! now I can get low notes out on tenor straight off the bat. And the notes are fuller.Thanks
Waldvogel45 if your having trouble with low notes, just move your reed back a little. It will cause less resistance against your air flow, therefore making your low notes easier to play. But keep in mind they'll be a bit louder so just practice them more often to get a more wider dynamic range.
This was a revelation. Suddenly I used this technique and my sound changed dramatically - the lower notes are much much richer. Thanks Jeff
This tip really helped me get my sound get bigger but some notes also started squeaking on the top end of the horn but I guess I'll find my way around that. Also all the other videos I have watched have been great (and the chore charts). Making my life and studies so much easier. Best channel on youtube
I'm fat myself... may this help to get a fat sax tone ? 😇
I have a question for anyone who can answer, but let me start with an explanation... I started on flute, so I learned to tongue with the roof of my mouth with a literal "T" sound. It wasn't until 5 years on alto that I learned that actually tonguing the reed was a thing. I have been recently trying to break this habit by catching myself doing it, but I figured, is it REALLY a bad habit? It doesn't inhibit my sound or clarity of attack, but I got to thinking that it may very well be reducing the speed of my tonguing because of obvious reasons(if my tongue is closer to the reed, I can tongue faster). This brings me to my question and what may be a good topic for a future video:
How do I tongue quickly? Say...back-tonguing or Sonny Stitt tonguing at high tempos when soloing. I understand doodle-tonguing, but what about concise and quick tonguing? Any exercises or explanations are extremely welcome.
Hi Fritz, I know what you mean. I've tongued like that in the past, as well. I recommend getting in the habit of tongueing directly on the reed rather than the roof of your mouth. In regards to speed, I think the secret is to make sure you are not restricting your air flow in any way. It is very important to support the speed of your tongue with fast and forward facing air. I think the topic warrants a video, so stay tuned. In the meantime, make sure you're blowing forward when trying to tongue fast.
I think that one of the most important thing to learn on sax is to push out the accents on the right notes to give a good sound. When I play the guitar, piano or sing I can give the right pushy sound on the right notes to sound good but not on the saxophone. When I sing for me it's easy to use the diaphragm but not on saxophone also after years that I play. My licks are too flat bitween the notes. Is there an exercice to improve the "coughy" sound to give great push on the right notes?
Yo Jeff!
I've nearly 3 days with my sax...and it goes well, indeed, you know :)
Best videos for Sax I've yet met.
+1 subscriber, keep on a good job, man!
Great video, I'm really finding this hard at the moment
Sax World, herein, the instructor-in-chief is passionately sharing his great wisdom.
Maybe you have already given it to all - the growls and split tones.
How does one go about obtaining it/them on, let's say, [high] F# and G - or, on any note (for effects, of course)?
In advance, thanks Jeff.
Thanks for the comment and question, Wyndhl. I'll do a video on growling and split tones in the near future. Stay tuned!
Hi Jeff,
Great video, my question is how can you increase speed by using this method, to double tongue, you need to use the tip of the tongue up and down to achieve a consistent "double tongue" effect. By using more tongue, the speed can be reduced, is that a fair observation?? Thanks in advance
Hi Oscar, Glad you liked the video. I think fast tonguing is actually more easily achieved through less and lighter tongue. I wouldn't worry too much about double tonguing. Make sure you keep your air flowing forward. Airflow is key! Good luck.
Can you make the slap tongue your next video, i already have a phat sound, but everyone i ask how to slap to tongue they dont explain it well enough
Agreed, slap tongue
search derek brown or beatbox sax on youtube,and you will find what you want
Sure, will do!
+Ardi Witjaksono already did not explained well enough for me
Hey dude from 4 years ago
Good evening sir. Very nice n very tactfully u teach. But if possible u explaine with draw sketch exact position of tung n how we set mouthpiece on lower lip also. And what is the exact position of mouthpiece in mouth. Actually I m bigenner. N started learning last month. Pl draw by pencil if possible n create one video again. Thx n regards. This is Deepak Sachdeva from India
thanks for this vídeo Man!
Where you been Jeff???????
Perfect, thanks!
Great information, Jeff. Love your posts. Could you talk about sub-tones to get the rich, warm sound in lower register?
Thank you
I do not get it right when you're going to play which one and the word you're talking about so you can have the middle part of the language on the palette to have a better sound and better timbre like you said in the video ,? ??? // and another question at the time of exploding, also where I should put my tongue when I explode, as I exploded attacking with the tongue while I'm blowing I put my tongue on the floor, the middle near the palette or I pucho her back , because that changes the sound too ... I'm Brazilian here from Brazil, I'm watching your video with the automatic translation of youtube ai some words go wrong in the translation of the video, then the doubts
just curious.....are you familiar with George Garzone? check out his approach to everything.....from tonguing, to his triad/half step ways of getting from point A to point B.....
I know George well. I studied with him for several years in college. Great player and great teacher.
Im from Boston too.....Mr Garzone has some interesting ideas on tonguing.
Were you using the same key?
that's nice but can u pls give deep explanation on growling?
Growling video coming soon! thanks, Michael.
your vdeos are so great.Like to have you make a video on how to youse GOST tones betwen blowing real tones.(maybe youse them as pasing tones and variations) Olaf Copenhagen Denmark
2:34 kinda maceo Parker sound i like it
Thanks Jeff!
Thank you, Wyndhl!
Hi Jeff, I've been debating on something : I used to have a hard time keeping sustained notes for a long times (I was basically short breathed). I also used to "drop my jaw". I then stumbled upon Joe Allard's teachings that helped me compress my air well, partially by not dropping my jaw and by creating air pressure in my mouth. This also helped me play without tension. However, even if I can play loud and long, I feel as if I didn't have as full of a sound. Tonight I spoke with a saxophonist who I greatly admire that told me again about dropping my jaw and playing with the cavity of my mouth/throat and blowing out "hot air". But now I wouldn't want to build a technique that uses unnecessary tension and that makes me short-breathed again. What is your take on this? Thank you loads in advance!!
Nice man, love your lessons. What mouthpiece and lig are you using here?
Thanks! All my gear is listed in the video description. Please let me know if you have any questions.
hey when you play sitting down do you set the sax on your right leg or in between your legs?
Does it work for clarinet?
Hi. What is the model of your mouthpiece? Thanks..
Do you have any tips to improve my tone?
I’m sure you have probably been asked this before in the comments to another video (or maybe this one)...... so sorry for the repeat if that’s the case. But what mouthpiece are you playing on. Is it a Drake? It sounds very opened but still really fat with a good lead alto ‘cut’ to it
I tried to experiment with this techniques today and it is great. Really helpful concept. It just open the sound as you are saying :) But in my opinion these techniques are not good for beginners. For intermediate players are just awesome! Thanks a lot man. P.S. in 2:33 you are sounding just like Kenny Garret :)
Hi David, Glad to hear you're experimenting with the exercise. That's what it's all about!
Omg first! Great vids btw! Keep it up
Thanks, Jonathan!
how to double tongue?
I’m on a 4 reed
The reed pinches my tounge and it kinda hurts. I start growling after a few notes any tips?
I used to have that same problem Christian, but I eventually figured out how to break that habit. It just takes dissecting every single thing that's going on. Any humming of any sort is what adds the growl. Just focusing on a steady air stream is what gives a clear definite tone. Now, the reed pinching is a product of tonguing with the fat part of the tongue. You can eliminate a lot of that pain by trying to make the tongue movement that strikes the reed faster (not harder).
I hope this helps!
Yeah but too much jaw and throat movement not centering the sound
sir u from
What size reed you using?
I think a 3 with a 7 piece
3!
You got it :)
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O.K. right? so it doesn't matter that you don't have a MK 6 like he has - where did this guy get this tongue theory? Never heard that in 40 years of pro playing, why don't you start talking about reeds and mouthpieces?