Agreed. The Imperial Navy and Army both proved their effectiveness in keeping order and crushing Rebels in the Galactic Civil War when led properly such as in the Battle of Hoth as well as numerous naval engagements throughout the galaxy. In contrast, the Empire's superweapons only gave the Rebels openings to hurt the Empire's credibility by destroying them. Of course, the Super Star Destroyers could also be regarded as superweapons but they fall within the category of ships and were actually quite useful in showing off the Empire's military might while demoralizing their enemies.
I think there was something in the EU that mentioned how many super star destroyers could have been built instead of the Death Stars, and given the effectiveness of the Executor (which only was destroyed due to the Emperor's incompetent orders), the extra firepower would've helped cement the Empire's hold on the galaxy for decades more.
I knew it! All of Star Wars was just Palpatine's cover to make the Empire look like the good guys Alderan actually had a huge mirror and deflected It back at them!
In the Clone Wars tv series you can hear those voices in Anakin's dark vision the Son showed him that sent chills down my spine and made me collapse to the floor cuz I felt their pain and suffering 😔
I think it was a spur of the moment decision by Tarkin. He threatened Leia with it and then just thought fuck it lets do it. Surprised Vader just let him do it without giving the emperor a quick phone call. "Hello Master, its me Vader, Tarkin want's to blow up Alderaan and he's going to make Leia Organa watch, she wouldn't tell us where the rebels were hiding so we told her we were gonna blow it up, I thought it was just a bluff but now he's really gonna do it.......... Haha, you've reached the Voicemail of Emperor Palpatine please leave a message and I will return your call when I am ready to do so"
Tarkin was an overconfident idiot when he ordered to chase Falcon with lonely station and without waiting for support fleet. if DS would be protected by the fleet as was planned, resistance fighters would never reach her because they would be swarmed by countless TiEs not only from the ships but DS as well giving station enough time to position and fire on Yavin.
Tarkin was wanting to know where the Rebel base was, that's why he ordered 4 TIEs fighters to chase the Millenium Falcon. He knew it was going to the Rebel base, which he would love to blow up.
no, he's talking about from a story point, and I completely agree with him 100%. the whole exploded unicorn is just a clusterfuck storytelling wise. everything's part of this big grand scheme, no main characters die EVER, all of star wars in the eu is pretty much bad fanfiction, save a few good writers that can actually do a decent plot. even the thrawn trilogy was kind of awful with them cloning darth vader and the emperor "just because". nothing really ever moves forward and is just kind of the same with cycles of empires rebellions and republics because plot security blankets. don't get me started on how out of place the usawn whatever the fucks were. I think they added those stupid H.R. Giger elements of "living ships" in because it was the 80's and everything had to have H.R. Giger in it because of aliens, even though it completely clashed with ray Bradbury's original designs for how the universe looked and felt. I could honestly go on for hours on how much I didn't like the star wars eu. if you like it fine, I'm just explaining why I didn't.
By destroying Alderaan, one of the most valuable and historically relevant worlds in the entire galaxy, the empire proved beyond all doubt that no one was safe and that the people making the decisions were completely insane, turning many neutral people into rebels because they thought there was a solid chance of the empire destroying more worlds in the long run.
Palpatine wasn't shocked so much by the act itself, but by the fact that Tarkin blew up *Alderaan* of all places. He *did* give Tarkin the go-ahead to vaporize a planet to show off the Death Star's power, but he probably expected him to destroy some backwater Outer Rim planet. The destruction of Alderaan was the single *dumbest* thing Tarkin ever did, and Tarkin was kind of a dumbass to begin with; His only major contribution to warfare was the Tarkin Doctrine, which heavily relied on preventing rebellion with fear and intimidation. But after Alderaan, people joined the Rebellion by the *thousands,* which completely rendered the Tarkin Doctrine moot.
Wataaa! fuck up isn't the word they need a comic on Wtf him and vader was thinking destroying a major human world. but to be fair everyone said the empire would crumble under its own paranoia
Now that I think about it, destroying an entire planet full of Imperial citizens was one of the DUMBEST things Tarkin did, which means he's either grossly incompetent or so off his rocker that he's no longer fit for command. The fact that he's there in the first place shows just how incompetent and corrupt the empire itself really is, so it makes perfect sense that it drove more systems to defect than to stay.
Not the Empire ITSELF. The Empire is about the ideals of discipline, unity and honor. Those core ideals are the true heart of the empire. The problem was that it was being led by terrible, corrupt people who used the Empire for their own ends, especially Palpatine. The fact that the Empire learned from its mistakes when the Imperial Remnant and Fel Empire were formed is testament to the truth of the Empire. Men come and go, but the Empire will live on.
It seems strange that Palpatine despite being an evil old bastard actually created something that could be argued is decent even if it got corrupted by him and others. When all the corrupt leaders died, it improved its behaviour though I'm still a fan of democracy and prefer there being a strong stable democratic Republic with a strong military.
Gabe Appleton without EVER considering the consequences because he was so stuck up his own ass, all he saw was basically, if I do it, people will fear me, even the Emperor. The thought that it would have the opposite effect never ever crossed his mind.
StryderK To be fair, arrogance and false feelings of invincibility are totally in-character for Tarkin, Palpatine, and the Empire's top brass in general (with a very few exceptions like Thrawn).
+Cortster Yeah, Star Wars isn't good when it comes to making up realistic numbers for a galaxy wide conflict. The clone army itself only contained 6.2 million clones.
It would make sense if the rebels had 10m+ all the way to billions because they were underfunded and desperate . I can understand the empire having a low standing army though, they have supertech and planetary weapons. Not too mention in that time warfare was done by spacecraft you don't need as many boots on the ground. You rock up to a system with a fleet of star destroyers and thats it they either immediately surrender or perish. So yea maybe the low number count is a tradeoff for the money spent on tech.
“Fear will keep the systems in line. Fear of this Battle station” Tarkin’s favorite tactic for victory was fear and crushed hope. But with Alderaan, he didn’t inspire fear. He pushed the people into fury and desperation. A total, complete, backfire.
Since Alderaan was still mostly imperial, with only a few rebel city's, it basically set the precedent that even if you follow all the rules you could still be killed on a wim
It's funny cuz in 77 early star wars fans were probably whatever on alderaan being destroyed as it seem like a generic planet but now due to the expanded lore it feels like more of a shame that it is gone
I'd say Tarkin's lucky he got blown up on the Death Star, who knows what Palps could have done to him for picking one of the known galaxy's most influential planets to destroy.
Tarkin: "My Lord, I have discovered the location of the Rebel base." Palpatine: "Excellent, where?" Tarkin: "Dantooine" Palpatine: Doubtful look "Are you sure?" Tarkin: "Of course, I got the answer from Leia Organa myself" Palpatine: More at ease "Ah I see, and how did you manage that?" Tarkin: "I threatened to fire the battle stations laser at her home planet of Alderaan" Palpatine: Mildly impressed look "Interesting choice of tactics, what planet did you test the weapon on?" Tarkin: Deadpan "Alderaan sir, I never make empty threats" Palpatine: Bug Eyed "You did what! Tarkin you fool! I said a planet, A Planet. I did not say one of the founding planets of the republic, one of the most beloved tourist destinations in the galaxy, and not a planet widely known as pacifists. Damn it Tarkin you had one job!"
@@articusramos808 Palpatine: "Do you have any idea of what that's going to do to our stock price!?" (Phone rings) Palpatine: "I bet that's one of our investors calling to tell us he's sold all his shares and will never do business with us, ever again. Tarkin, sit in the corner and wear the dunce cap!" Tarkin: (Pouts and walks over to the dunce cap and stool)
"Historians concluded that Alderaan's destruction was the empire's biggest mistake" Nope. "Sir, look, an escape pod, should I shoot it?" "No, no life signs aboard, don't bother"
@@ayoutubechannel1413 start of episode 4 - c3po and r2d2 are on an escape pod with the death star plans and the imperial gunner asks whether to shoot it as it has no life signs aboard
@@regularguy2807perception is key. Alderaan was perceived as a peaceful world and a prominent member of the previous Republic. And the Empire blew them up
And yet in the original film we got barely a moment of Leia's reaction, and never any acreentime for her to emotionally process the destruction of her homeworld. Meanwhile, Luke had plenty of screentime to process Obi-Wan's death while Leia comforted him.
Leia at this point in her career is a hardened strategist and rebel. Her background is that she's the youngest Senator in the history of the Republic or the Empire, and has been using the Tantive IV as a blockade runner for years. Right in the same film, prior to this scene, she's withstood Imperial torture, mind probes, stood up to Darth Vader himself, insulted Tarkin to his face *after* being tortured. And upon being freed from her cell she takes charge of the ragtag pack of idiots who've come to rescue her and more or less leads them out of the most high-security Imperial fortress in the galaxy. She's resilient, strong, capable, always putting the greater good ahead of her own personal desires, knowing - and saying, on screen itself - that there's no time for sorrows. i.e. she is doing everything that classic male protagonists used to do in every film of this kind *until* Star Wars came along. i.e.e. she is a feminist in every sense of the word. And you have the gumption to whine about the fact she didn't get any 'tears time'?
@@wildfire9280 Um, the whole societal trope Leia's portrayal was pushing against was the idea that women *did* show emotion and *therefore* were weak. Leia didn't, or put it off to another time, and so by the internal standards of the movie was strong. Take your limp-ass therapy training back to Twitter where it belongs.
That always bothered me. Like OMG she fucking lost her entire planet and SHE was comforting Luke over the dude he barely knew. What about comforting HER???
That’s why I’ve branched out and checked out other venues, like the NPR Radio Dramas. In the New Hope Radio Drama, when Alderaan was destroyed, Leia broke down right there, versus the cut to Obi-Wan and his famous line. Then, while Tarkin is gloating over a successful field test and Vader acknowledges the power of the Death Star, Leia essentially tells him that he and those aboard the Death Star were inhuman “things” and the Empire was now at war with “Life itself” and the universe (read: the Galaxy).
Palpatine: "This whole Death Star destruction...My apprentice is probably DEAD for all I know? For fuck sakes I need a vacation somewhere....Get me a shuttle ready for my resort on Alderaan." Imperial Officer: "Yeah......About that....."
Wesley Molt i think in Legends, they tried that and was quickly dismissed when it was found Palpatine gave the green light to destroy a planet. Also, Vader was supposedly on the Death Star to prevent Tarkin or anyone else from getting ideas from turning rogue/renegade with the Empire's most powerful weapon.
Hoodie i don’t agree with that at all. Despite a great head start (because the rest of Europe wasn’t ready for war) the Germans never really stood a chance of winning the war. The allies were superior in almost every way and once things stalled in ‘42 the war essentially ended. And seeing as the Germans are supposedly represented by the Empire I don’t think that analogy holds at all.
King of Cannabis His death is also ironic because if Tarkin hadn't destroyed Scarrif in rogue one, Krennic could have fixed the weakness on the death star since Jyn told him.
Kreia to Tarkin: "Are psychotic urges all that drives you?" Kreia: "I would examine the situation as a whole, all of its ties to the force, and then decide which string to pull, not sever them all at once, such crude methods grant you nothing!"
I'd love to see a movie exploring the aftermath of Alderaan's and the Death Star's destruction and the interim years between Episode 4 and 5. I think a film showing those planets rising up and pushing off the empire would be awesome. It could show how the Rebel Alliance transformed into "a force to be reckoned with." I could imagine the inhabitants of these worlds seizing Imperial weapons and fleets on their worlds to go toe to toe with the empire, and hopefully see battles of a similar scale shown in Episode 3. One can always enjoy a scene showing a full scale, apocalyptic battle going on on land and in space in Star Wars. Just my 2 cents.
jon ratsey I think both would be a great idea, but I'd prefer live action rather than a cartoon for the film. The one gripe I've got with the TV shows is that they often lack the action and unbridled grit the movies show. They're made too kid friendly, not enough blood and graphic, gripping deaths to seem believable. Think how sad people feel when seeing the Ewoks killed in Episode 6- that kind of stuff is needed, imo, to make the franchise more gripping. It was originally made like a soap opera, after all, and emotions and story are key (as well as believable action scenes). Just my other 2 cents. lol
that i totally respect and agree with in some ways just with my 2 cents would be it be kind of rushed in a movie UNLESS of course they made a trilogy of live movies of that thought to lengthen the story of it
jon ratsey Good point. But I don't expect them to make a trilogy on something like that to be honest. I feel they'd do one, maybe two standalone's- even if the potential were there to do a dozen films on just one niche of the Galactic Civil War. The current understanding is that Disney is looking to do stand alone's on individual, significant stories outside of the main story line being explored in the three trilogies. But I would certainly love a plethora of movies exploring the other stories of the war and the more 'average' battles and experiences.
To me, this sounds exactly like the aftermath of Pearl Harbor: -An important location was destroyed (Pearl Harbor/Alderaan) -The attack (or destruction) shock the world (or galaxy) -Propaganda was created about it (Avenge Pearl Harbor/Remember Alderaan) -A sleeping giant had awoken as an effect (United States/Rebel Alliance) -Became the biggest mistake the enemy (Japanese Empire/Galactic Empire) had ever made
Forgot to mention this: - The protagonist (US/Rebels) destroyed the antagonist's key factor (The Jap's Naval Army/the Empire's Death Star), showing that they're not exactly invincible
Actually, Britain's prime minister at the time wanted the U.S. to enter the war. And with Pearl Harbor, he was relieved that the US is now on the "same boat" and said that the Allies have won.
I wouldn't really say pearl harbor was a mistake on Japan's behalf, If anything pearl harbor was what temporarily crippled America's Naval fleet and allowed Japan to start its conquest on east Asia. I'd say the one battle the Japanese fucked up on was the battle of Midway. I think a better analogy would be the boston Massacre when British soldiers gunned down multiple colonist, this resulted in thousands of colonist joining the American rebels and rallying against the British empire.
In retrospect, the death star was a dumb idea to begin with, it was a waste of resources and time that could have been used for superior Imperial weaponry, vehicles, and ships. Even if palpatine wanted a planet destroying weapon, he could have maybe outfit an SSD with a death star laser. Would have been cheaper and easier.
Pyroskies Search up the Conquerer Star Destroyer. It is pretty much what you just described and the video about it is even on this channel. I don't think it is canon though.
+Pyroskies Is a super star destroyer even big enough to fit the gun and the reactor? Not that it matters, because a super star destroyer seen from the ground is a pants filling sight as it is.
gjesus051 Conqueror wasn't armed with 1:1 replica of DS laser. It carried smaller version, capable only of destroying small moons, and causing cataclysm on planet's continents.
The notable thing is that both Darth Vader, Grand Admiral Thrawn, and a few other imperial leaders who didn't have their heads up their asses outright opposed the creation of the Death Stars from day one. They viewed it as a wast of resources and believed that the could have spent them on making ships, armor, weaponry, and other technology. This is even represented in the films "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force." Basically they thought "Why are we making these useless things when we could have used what we made them with to create entire fleets and armies?" While the second Death Star had it more so than the first, ultimately, both Death Stars lacked versatility, and the previous people mentioned viewed them as waste of resources.
This gives the Star Wars universe much more depth. The way it shows how such a tragic event effected everyone within the galaxy. It especially gives the reader an imagination on how the natives of Alderaan must've felt when they discovered what happened to their home-world.
If I was palpatine, I would publicly denounce Tarkin or some other officer that had died in the Death Stars destruction, calling him a war criminal and donating large portions of money to an Alderaan based charity
Tarek Chamas or made a few dozen of those superlaser SSDs that can blow up small moons. with enough of them (maybe a dozen) concentrating fire it would destroy a planet, and 12 big ships would be a lot less vulnerable than 1 death star. at worst, half of them could at least escape. and besides, 1 shot of these would be enough to glass a planet anyway.
Moments before Aldeeran was annihilated, a Princess Leia in chain told to Moff Tarkin something to this effect: "The more you tighten your grip, more worlds will escape from it". Only had he listened.
*Aldeeran gets blowed up.... ........all blowed up. Palpatine on Twitter: My Thoughts and Prayers go out to the victims and their families. #neverforget
One of the ultimate acts of cowardice and weakness. They chose to destroy a completely defenseless planet, one with no weapons at all, and yet the Death Star was wiped out against a force that could actually fight back. Vader was right about one thing. It did have the ability to create problems.
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic he could save others from death, but not himself.
killerphoenix115 But he still regretted the repercussions it brought. Oddly enough, this still showed that, in a way, he *DID* still see value in the lives of billions. Sure, it wasn't for humanity's sake, but this shows that he wasn't completely irrational or psychopathic.
Tarkin: Emperor Palpatine, I have tested The Death Stars main weapon. Palpatine: Good. Which planet have you tested it on? Tarkin: Alderaan, my lord. Palpatine: *uses force lightning*
Here's how the Empire could have explained Alderaan's destruction without being as subtle as a chainsaw to the crotch: The Death Star's target was a remote corner of the planet, simply to demonstrate the power of the Death Star to the Galaxy as a whole. The superlaser was only at absolute minimum power, again simply a demonstration. However, the chosen target just happened to be a massive underground weapons and munitions stockpile. Among these were, upon later examination, several grams of antimatter. This proves that Princess Leia was, in fact, a complete and utter liar and nothing more than a traitor.
@@ntfoperative9432 Hell say this Tarkin decided to use the power of the Death Star to stage a coup. Say he learned that the Empire killed his son who had joined the rebellion and wanted revenge.
During the time of the Empire, Alderaan had a population of 2 billion people. Now, imagine that this entire population was suddenly eradicated, vanishing into thin air. It's an act of sheer madness and unquestionably the most shocking event I've encountered in Star Wars canon.
One of the lessons of history: attacking civilians to scare of your enemy only results in more volunteers for the enemys army. Worked that way in 1940 in Finnland, 1941 in Britain an pretty much in any other conflict it was practised
@@noplesnono9656 Eh that's a little bit different. Japan was completely beaten and had no hope of winning no matter what. That was just extra incentive. Things like Pearl Harbor, the Finland thing, and Great Britain thing are better explain that they tried to scare them into submission before they were a threat.
I've noticed on these videos that a lot of the population facts ('thousands joined the rebel alliance' etc) seem way off to me. Star wars is based in a huge galaxy with hundreds (if not thousands) of inhabited planets. I would assume that planets such as Courscant or any other city planets would have on the numbers of trillions of individuals, and least populated planets like Jakku or Hoth would have in the hundreds of thousands. With this it's simple to assume there are maybe a couple hundred trillion or a couple quadrillion beings in this galaxy- and that's just the planets taken into account, not to mention moons, asteroids, space bases etc. So something like a couple thousand rebels or a couple million clones really doesn't add up. Imagine this: 15 million clones spread about 5000 locations across the galaxy- that leaves 3000 per location. That's a very very small amount.
Yes. That's a major problem in all of Sci-Fi worlds. Even Star Trek. But looking at Star Wars it's crazy. It's like no one does math. Let's assume for the sake of doing easy math that there are 1 Quadrillion beings in the Star Wars galaxy. That's a 1 followed by 15 zeroes. If even 1/2 of 1 percent (.005) join the rebel cause that is FIVE TRILLION PEOPLE. Clearly Star Wars has a major math problem. The population is so huge that realistically the Empire should have never lost. Just through sheer numbers it should be unstoppable. Imagine the Empire has 2% of the total population in uniform and that is 20 trillion people.
TheS1E2A3L4 not necessarily, the nearby planets orbit the nearest sun, not Alderan, but the debris could have damaged other planets if they crossed paths, basically a meteor coming towards them, but that didn't happen, so in short, no.
Star system not solar system. Solar refers to The Sun, so the only solar system is the one we inhabit. All other systems of planets orbiting stars are star systems.
Clumsy0015 To be fair though, there are more suns than just our. Other planets orbit suns in their systems, so saying solar system isn't necessarily wrong, but it technically is. And at the same time, our sun is a star, so wouldn't we also be considered a star system.
Palpatine: You can destroy a planet Tarkin: Understood *destroys a planet* did it Palpatine: You destroyed a random planet no one knows about right Tarkin: Ummmmmm no.........
I’m imagin a robot chicken sketch similar to the one with palpatine reaction the destruction of the Death Star where he’s yelling at tarkin on how much his plan backfired maybe vader stand in the background
The galaxy had Truthers and those who believed the Empires "Official Story". They had galactic wide internet debates on YavinTube. Galactic Truthers had facts and science on their side, while those who towed the Empire's story would argue by resorting to character assassination, name calling, and hollow threats. Many key witnesses had questionable deaths... ;-)
So in a way, while showing the galaxy what the Empire is capable of, they have basically became the architects of their own destruction as by destroying Alderaan which is a key figure among the Empire at the time, they have unknowingly made the Rebel Alliance stronger and it was only made worst when Tarkin and the first Death Star was destroyed. You know it is bad news if even Palpatine himself was not expecting Tarkin to destroy Alderaan in an attempt end the Rebels. Tarkin's attempt to multitask went wrong. This only gave the galaxy a proper reason to bring an end to the Galactic Empire.
@WiiManElite i mean tarkin said "make no mistake from now on failure will have consuquenses"on rebels and punisment for failure is the 1st rule of Empire and aresko and his friend(i dont remember his name)were executed because they were just failed to hunt down the rebels but tarkin litelery killed 2billion ppl from Empire population with thousands of imperials milions of imperials (especily High ranking ones such as yularin)died and Vader almost died because of his failure bro he would be executed on slowiest way
Good video, I like the irony that the destruction of Alderaan caused the mass uprising against the Empire that Tarkin initially sought to prevent by building the Death Star in the first place.Did you ever see my previous comments on a 'What If" scenario involving the Empire winning the Galactic Civil War, and how Palpatine and Vader would have dealt with eventual extra-galactic Vong invasion in the Legends timeline.
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actually there was a thing the empire did during the return every year. they would hide their star destroyers in the rubble and capture any ships that came in an attempt to capture members of the alliance.
Tarkin and Sidious were the ones who truly wanted Death Star. They were politicians, not military strategists. They did not understand the military blunder of the Death Star like Thrawn and Vader did. Thrawn being a tactical genius understood that the Death Star could only bring order to a single system unlike a mobile TIE fighter fleet. Vader also agreed with Thrawn and gave him new ideas on how to improve the TIE fighters. From a warrior's standpoint he also emphasised that people will only rally behind leaders, not weapons, no matter how destructive. Tarkin and Sidious wanted to rule with fear. Fear while powerful is also brittle. Thrawn wanted to rule with loyalty. Vader used fear but also understood the value of loyalty. When you let politicians dictate military operations, disasters always follow.
Had Tarkin survived, Palpatine would surely have had him punished him severely for such an arrogant blunder resulting in such backlash, turning many Imperial citizens and even officers against the Empire and justifying the Rebel Alliance's cause that more joined with them, turning the Rebels into a real threat that the Empire couldn't deny Tarkin called Leia far too trusting? He was far too arrogant
The Empire used the Death Star to destroy a planet in order to discourage their enemies to challenge them and therefore they actually got even more enemies, ironic
![What Palpatine Did in His Free Time [Legends]](/img/n.gif)
Palapatine: "Tarkin, you had ONE JOB!!"
MistyEyedDragon and he fucked up xD
LMAO 😂😂😂
Tarken: Sorry trying to get the rebel bass but oh shit
Death Star blows up
Palapatine: "And you blew it..." >:/
Celestial Dragon we were on the verge of greatness
Empire should have listened to Thrawn and expand the fleet instead of making superweapons.
That was a huge argument many Imperial Officers had. They felt that it would decrease their own effectiveness and shift power away from them.
A super weapon that got destroyed by a one-man fighter :P
Agreed. The Imperial Navy and Army both proved their effectiveness in keeping order and crushing Rebels in the Galactic Civil War when led properly such as in the Battle of Hoth as well as numerous naval engagements throughout the galaxy. In contrast, the Empire's superweapons only gave the Rebels openings to hurt the Empire's credibility by destroying them.
Of course, the Super Star Destroyers could also be regarded as superweapons but they fall within the category of ships and were actually quite useful in showing off the Empire's military might while demoralizing their enemies.
I think there was something in the EU that mentioned how many super star destroyers could have been built instead of the Death Stars, and given the effectiveness of the Executor (which only was destroyed due to the Emperor's incompetent orders), the extra firepower would've helped cement the Empire's hold on the galaxy for decades more.
What the Empire should have invested far more in were Interdictors.
>Empire uses Death Star
>Empire has hurt itself in confusion
Tarkin: Oh woops.
Power brings out the worst in people, physically and figuratively
I knew it! All of Star Wars was just Palpatine's cover to make the Empire look like the good guys Alderan actually had a huge mirror and deflected It back at them!
Its Like when you kil your teammate and make up a “He Tried to kil me “ excuse yet none of your other teammates believe you and they betray you
_'I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.'_
@@umbrvalken UA-cam is full of pratts like that unfortunately
"Something terrible has happened"
That line gave me the chills when I first heard it and imagined the horror the masses experienced before the end
In the Clone Wars tv series you can hear those voices in Anakin's dark vision the Son showed him that sent chills down my spine and made me collapse to the floor cuz I felt their pain and suffering 😔
I think it was a spur of the moment decision by Tarkin. He threatened Leia with it and then just thought fuck it lets do it. Surprised Vader just let him do it without giving the emperor a quick phone call. "Hello Master, its me Vader, Tarkin want's to blow up Alderaan and he's going to make Leia Organa watch, she wouldn't tell us where the rebels were hiding so we told her we were gonna blow it up, I thought it was just a bluff but now he's really gonna do it.......... Haha, you've reached the Voicemail of Emperor Palpatine please leave a message and I will return your call when I am ready to do so"
Go for papa palpatine!
*Palpatine checks phone* oh wow a missed call meh doesn’t seem important
"What? What do you mean the Death Star blew up?
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F@&#!!!"
I think palpatine was created after a new hope was released
@@muanims there were already mentions of the Emperor in Episode 4 (you can't have an Empire without an Emperor) but he didn't make an appearance
So basically Tarkin is the reason why the empire fucked up.
Tarkin was an overconfident idiot when he ordered to chase Falcon with lonely station and without waiting for support fleet.
if DS would be protected by the fleet as was planned, resistance fighters would never reach her because they would be swarmed by countless TiEs not only from the ships but DS as well giving station enough time to position and fire on Yavin.
Ecstasility I don't think Tarkin thought it threw.
Tarkin was wanting to know where the Rebel base was, that's why he ordered 4 TIEs fighters to chase the Millenium Falcon. He knew it was going to the Rebel base, which he would love to blow up.
Umm they didn;'t need them had Tarkin ordered more fighters launched rahter then those that Vader could command the rebel attack would have failed.
Palpatine should´ve invested in serious Thrawn protection so that he could´ve him alive, to bitchslap Tarkin by the time, he would go full edgelord.
The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will be slipping through your fingers
hard to say if the rebels could have done much if the death star had lived
He should've listened to her it seems!
Yakko, Wakko, & Dot was here!!!
+Juri Reminds me of a similar quote I heard from Deus Ex. ua-cam.com/video/ClLhgoS9UdY/v-deo.html
We only know Tarkin didn’t take a shower for so long, since his smell was all around the station xD
I didn't realize that the destruction of Alderaan had such a bolstering effect on the Rebellion. Just another reason to love your channel!
Disney makes no sense, So EU is the only universe that makes sense.
amusing enough the solution the empire had to the problem was to build another death star.
_nevermind_
The EU is just a massive cluster fuck of unorganized trash.
no, he's talking about from a story point, and I completely agree with him 100%. the whole exploded unicorn is just a clusterfuck storytelling wise. everything's part of this big grand scheme, no main characters die EVER, all of star wars in the eu is pretty much bad fanfiction, save a few good writers that can actually do a decent plot. even the thrawn trilogy was kind of awful with them cloning darth vader and the emperor "just because". nothing really ever moves forward and is just kind of the same with cycles of empires rebellions and republics because plot security blankets. don't get me started on how out of place the usawn whatever the fucks were. I think they added those stupid H.R. Giger elements of "living ships" in because it was the 80's and everything had to have H.R. Giger in it because of aliens, even though it completely clashed with ray Bradbury's original designs for how the universe looked and felt. I could honestly go on for hours on how much I didn't like the star wars eu. if you like it fine, I'm just explaining why I didn't.
By destroying Alderaan, one of the most valuable and historically relevant worlds in the entire galaxy, the empire proved beyond all doubt that no one was safe and that the people making the decisions were completely insane, turning many neutral people into rebels because they thought there was a solid chance of the empire destroying more worlds in the long run.
It was like Pearl Harbor. One bad move ruined everythinv.
When even Palpatine is shocked by your cruelty, you know you’re messed up
I think its more of a "Its not WHAT you did, but WHO you did it to" situation
I don’t think Palpatine had any sympathy- to him he just saw it as a tactile error
I think it was more of a "smooth moves, moron.'
Palpatine wasn't shocked so much by the act itself, but by the fact that Tarkin blew up *Alderaan* of all places. He *did* give Tarkin the go-ahead to vaporize a planet to show off the Death Star's power, but he probably expected him to destroy some backwater Outer Rim planet. The destruction of Alderaan was the single *dumbest* thing Tarkin ever did, and Tarkin was kind of a dumbass to begin with; His only major contribution to warfare was the Tarkin Doctrine, which heavily relied on preventing rebellion with fear and intimidation. But after Alderaan, people joined the Rebellion by the *thousands,* which completely rendered the Tarkin Doctrine moot.
To the empire blowing anderaan up wasn't bad for being cruel, it was bad because it was completely pointless.
you done fucked up Tarkin. - Palpatine
Wataaa! He sure did.
your profile pic fits perfectly to your comment xD
Wataaa! "There's do and fuck up royal, and you just fucked up royal!" -Palpatine
Revampedharpy09 My profile picture always fits perfectly to my comments.
Wataaa! fuck up isn't the word they need a comic on Wtf him and vader was thinking destroying a major human world. but to be fair everyone said the empire would crumble under its own paranoia
Now that I think about it, destroying an entire planet full of Imperial citizens was one of the DUMBEST things Tarkin did, which means he's either grossly incompetent or so off his rocker that he's no longer fit for command. The fact that he's there in the first place shows just how incompetent and corrupt the empire itself really is, so it makes perfect sense that it drove more systems to defect than to stay.
Not the Empire ITSELF. The Empire is about the ideals of discipline, unity and honor. Those core ideals are the true heart of the empire. The problem was that it was being led by terrible, corrupt people who used the Empire for their own ends, especially Palpatine. The fact that the Empire learned from its mistakes when the Imperial Remnant and Fel Empire were formed is testament to the truth of the Empire. Men come and go, but the Empire will live on.
He was old by that point and utterly overconfident.
It seems strange that Palpatine despite being an evil old bastard actually created something that could be argued is decent even if it got corrupted by him and others. When all the corrupt leaders died, it improved its behaviour though I'm still a fan of democracy and prefer there being a strong stable democratic Republic with a strong military.
He was a commander in the Old Republic as well. Don't be a hypocrite.
We're talking about a guy Darth Vader answered to. How stable do you think someone that can bring a Sith Lord to heal is going to be?
Dammit Tarkin, you had one job
ONE JAWB!
Which, strictly speaking, he performed.
Gabe Appleton without EVER considering the consequences because he was so stuck up his own ass, all he saw was basically, if I do it, people will fear me, even the Emperor. The thought that it would have the opposite effect never ever crossed his mind.
StryderK To be fair, arrogance and false feelings of invincibility are totally in-character for Tarkin, Palpatine, and the Empire's top brass in general (with a very few exceptions like Thrawn).
0:49 Thousands? That's it?! I would have thought billions would, considering the population of the galaxy.
+Cortster Yeah, Star Wars isn't good when it comes to making up realistic numbers for a galaxy wide conflict. The clone army itself only contained 6.2 million clones.
I was thinking the same thing as he said that. I swear, just let me rewrite the numbers for star wars because it drives me nuts.
Fact Free 6.2 million? That's it? Heck, even a billion might be low in a galaxy of potentially quadrillions.
It would make sense if the rebels had 10m+ all the way to billions because they were underfunded and desperate . I can understand the empire having a low standing army though, they have supertech and planetary weapons. Not too mention in that time warfare was done by spacecraft you don't need as many boots on the ground. You rock up to a system with a fleet of star destroyers and thats it they either immediately surrender or perish. So yea maybe the low number count is a tradeoff for the money spent on tech.
edit: You also say in a video that the empire is racist against aliens lol so also makes sense to why the numbers would be lesser.
“Fear will keep the systems in line. Fear of this Battle station”
Tarkin’s favorite tactic for victory was fear and crushed hope. But with Alderaan, he didn’t inspire fear. He pushed the people into fury and desperation. A total, complete, backfire.
Since Alderaan was still mostly imperial, with only a few rebel city's, it basically set the precedent that even if you follow all the rules you could still be killed on a wim
@@ntfoperative9432 Yah, something that Vader’s underlings were figuring out really quick Lol
@@velkonemriam1935no wonder the defection rate was high.
Alderaan en vez de ser Hiroshima fue el 911
@@ntfoperative9432 Makes the Empire's parallels to Nazi Germany even stronger.
It's funny cuz in 77 early star wars fans were probably whatever on alderaan being destroyed as it seem like a generic planet but now due to the expanded lore it feels like more of a shame that it is gone
The SWTOR game made this planet justice, one of the most beautiful planets you can visit in a star wars game
No
so Tarkin destroyed the Empire?
Yes.
That Guy
If only thrawn had been there to bitchslap him for his stupid decision.
Dalek ShitPoster nice name
You had one job!
Whoops, looks like I forgot to add the outro lol.
Fact Free you almost have 200k subs, are you happy?
+Sverre Beijer Yes! Can't believe how much this channel has grown.
Dont worry, i like the video even if u dont tell me to ;)
Fact Free Why is there Corrupeted At-At Walkers on jakku since there was no At At Walkers on jakku
Kevin, It-
Nevermind.
I'd say Tarkin's lucky he got blown up on the Death Star, who knows what Palps could have done to him for picking one of the known galaxy's most influential planets to destroy.
Palps himself said that in the Book of Sith, stating Tarkin was lucky to have died on the Death Star
Palpatine was going to have him killed horribly for it. The books said that much.
@@UltimateGCX Yep that's why he was lucky
yeah lol
@@UltimateGCX Electrocute Tarkin until his body tissues was dissolved (electrolysis)?
Tarkin: "My Lord, I have discovered the location of the Rebel base."
Palpatine: "Excellent, where?"
Tarkin: "Dantooine"
Palpatine: Doubtful look "Are you sure?"
Tarkin: "Of course, I got the answer from Leia Organa myself"
Palpatine: More at ease "Ah I see, and how did you manage that?"
Tarkin: "I threatened to fire the battle stations laser at her home planet of Alderaan"
Palpatine: Mildly impressed look "Interesting choice of tactics, what planet did you test the weapon on?"
Tarkin: Deadpan "Alderaan sir, I never make empty threats"
Palpatine: Bug Eyed "You did what! Tarkin you fool! I said a planet, A Planet. I did not say one of the founding planets of the republic, one of the most beloved tourist destinations in the galaxy, and not a planet widely known as pacifists. Damn it Tarkin you had one job!"
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
TheLastSane1 I actually read this with their voices in my head
Palpatine: burins his face in his hand “This is going to be a pr nightmare!”
Makes a nearly good Robot Chicken skit. Add a bit little spice to it and it will work but over all I like the comment.
@@articusramos808
Palpatine: "Do you have any idea of what that's going to do to our stock price!?"
(Phone rings)
Palpatine: "I bet that's one of our investors calling to tell us he's sold all his shares and will never do business with us, ever again. Tarkin, sit in the corner and wear the dunce cap!"
Tarkin: (Pouts and walks over to the dunce cap and stool)
"Historians concluded that Alderaan's destruction was the empire's biggest mistake"
Nope.
"Sir, look, an escape pod, should I shoot it?"
"No, no life signs aboard, don't bother"
Sable
lol since that led to everything
Dat so tru
this is truenes
I dont get it 😕
@@ayoutubechannel1413 start of episode 4 - c3po and r2d2 are on an escape pod with the death star plans and the imperial gunner asks whether to shoot it as it has no life signs aboard
"You have permission to destroy a planet."
"You destroyed a heavily populated mostly peaceful planet?!"
That was smart...
You expect intelligence from the British looking and mannered villain?
They could have litteraly blown away some waste planet or a moon and it would have still have shown power
Alderaan was NOT peaceful.
>mostly peaceful
@@regularguy2807perception is key. Alderaan was perceived as a peaceful world and a prominent member of the previous Republic. And the Empire blew them up
And yet in the original film we got barely a moment of Leia's reaction, and never any acreentime for her to emotionally process the destruction of her homeworld. Meanwhile, Luke had plenty of screentime to process Obi-Wan's death while Leia comforted him.
Leia at this point in her career is a hardened strategist and rebel. Her background is that she's the youngest Senator in the history of the Republic or the Empire, and has been using the Tantive IV as a blockade runner for years. Right in the same film, prior to this scene, she's withstood Imperial torture, mind probes, stood up to Darth Vader himself, insulted Tarkin to his face *after* being tortured. And upon being freed from her cell she takes charge of the ragtag pack of idiots who've come to rescue her and more or less leads them out of the most high-security Imperial fortress in the galaxy. She's resilient, strong, capable, always putting the greater good ahead of her own personal desires, knowing - and saying, on screen itself - that there's no time for sorrows. i.e. she is doing everything that classic male protagonists used to do in every film of this kind *until* Star Wars came along. i.e.e. she is a feminist in every sense of the word.
And you have the gumption to whine about the fact she didn't get any 'tears time'?
@@Yerflua oh no, how dare she show any emotion that makes her weak
@@wildfire9280 Um, the whole societal trope Leia's portrayal was pushing against was the idea that women *did* show emotion and *therefore* were weak.
Leia didn't, or put it off to another time, and so by the internal standards of the movie was strong.
Take your limp-ass therapy training back to Twitter where it belongs.
That always bothered me. Like OMG she fucking lost her entire planet and SHE was comforting Luke over the dude he barely knew. What about comforting HER???
That’s why I’ve branched out and checked out other venues, like the NPR Radio Dramas. In the New Hope Radio Drama, when Alderaan was destroyed, Leia broke down right there, versus the cut to Obi-Wan and his famous line. Then, while Tarkin is gloating over a successful field test and Vader acknowledges the power of the Death Star, Leia essentially tells him that he and those aboard the Death Star were inhuman “things” and the Empire was now at war with “Life itself” and the universe (read: the Galaxy).
Palpatine: "This whole Death Star destruction...My apprentice is probably DEAD for all I know? For fuck sakes I need a vacation somewhere....Get me a shuttle ready for my resort on Alderaan."
Imperial Officer: "Yeah......About that....."
Palpatine: *sighs* I'm surrounded by idiots...
The emperor God damn it Tarkin
@@youvebeenmungaid1470 🤪
I mean... He could always go to Naboo too
@@Jedi-ge6lr "I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes"
One has to wonder why Palpypie didn't decide to simply throw Tarkin under the bus and claim he had gone rogue
Wesley Molt i think in Legends, they tried that and was quickly dismissed when it was found Palpatine gave the green light to destroy a planet. Also, Vader was supposedly on the Death Star to prevent Tarkin or anyone else from getting ideas from turning rogue/renegade with the Empire's most powerful weapon.
@WiiManElite Good subordinate yes but as an Officer and Leader the Empire has better. Not including Grand Admiral Thrawn.
The destruction of Alderaan is like when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Both were meant to scare the enemy but instead backfired and motivated them
Jet X Star Wars is a massive WW2 metaphor, just think about it for a second.
Jet X yes
Pearl Harbour wasn't meant to scare, it was meant to cripple the US navy
Hoodie i don’t agree with that at all. Despite a great head start (because the rest of Europe wasn’t ready for war) the Germans never really stood a chance of winning the war. The allies were superior in almost every way and once things stalled in ‘42 the war essentially ended. And seeing as the Germans are supposedly represented by the Empire I don’t think that analogy holds at all.
I never realized it that way, but WOW! That is accurate!
2:06 Big headed black eyed alien guy is this really the time to be playing you instrument, man its like you just cant resist
He's the epic Sax guy of Star Wars, he is addicted to hardcore sax and girating while playing music..... always....
And of course the only song he knows is the one that plays in the Cantina 24/7.
@@MrRiddleAW Even though there were two songs played
Figrin D’an, WTF are you doing there?!
He's not playing a tune, he's providing the "wah wah" sound when an imperial plan goes wrong.
Fatal mistake by Tarkin
Fi Skirata Yeah probably shouldn't have chosen a well respected planet to blow up.
palpatine probably should have had thrawn as a grand moff (tarkin was an idiot)
Revan Ruler Well at least Thrawn probably gave the 'I told you so' to Palpatine.
The real fatal mistake for him was not getting on his ship when he was told a weakness had been found.
King of Cannabis His death is also ironic because if Tarkin hadn't destroyed Scarrif in rogue one, Krennic could have fixed the weakness on the death star since Jyn told him.
The Emperor was probably looking at Tarkin’s orders and thought to himself, “of course it was the one guy I ordered Vader not to kill.”
Kreia to Tarkin: "Are psychotic urges all that drives you?"
Kreia: "I would examine the situation as a whole, all of its ties to the force, and then decide which string to pull, not sever them all at once, such crude methods grant you nothing!"
Gotta love Kreia
Nihilus seeing tarkin used a metal orb to destroy a Planet:pathetic
Let it go princess, *picks up muffin* You may fire when ready. Baboom, Aldereann chunks everywhere
Captain23rd Gaming anyone... anyone got a joke?
I have one! Who's got two thumbs and betrayed his best friend? THIS GUY!! HA-HA-HAAAAH!!!*awkward silence*Uhhh....too soon?
scifiguy9000 well it's been a quarter in a half, alot of Torturing to do whoopie doopie do
Captain23rd Gaming
*Takes entire table cloth and food with him*
scifiguy9000 glad im not the only person who remembers that sketch xD
I'd love to see a movie exploring the aftermath of Alderaan's and the Death Star's destruction and the interim years between Episode 4 and 5. I think a film showing those planets rising up and pushing off the empire would be awesome. It could show how the Rebel Alliance transformed into "a force to be reckoned with." I could imagine the inhabitants of these worlds seizing Imperial weapons and fleets on their worlds to go toe to toe with the empire, and hopefully see battles of a similar scale shown in Episode 3. One can always enjoy a scene showing a full scale, apocalyptic battle going on on land and in space in Star Wars.
Just my 2 cents.
maybe instead of a movie instead make a tv show like Star Wars Rebels which takes place Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope
jon ratsey I think both would be a great idea, but I'd prefer live action rather than a cartoon for the film. The one gripe I've got with the TV shows is that they often lack the action and unbridled grit the movies show. They're made too kid friendly, not enough blood and graphic, gripping deaths to seem believable. Think how sad people feel when seeing the Ewoks killed in Episode 6- that kind of stuff is needed, imo, to make the franchise more gripping. It was originally made like a soap opera, after all, and emotions and story are key (as well as believable action scenes).
Just my other 2 cents. lol
that i totally respect and agree with in some ways just with my 2 cents would be it be kind of rushed in a movie UNLESS of course they made a trilogy of live movies of that thought to lengthen the story of it
jon ratsey Good point. But I don't expect them to make a trilogy on something like that to be honest. I feel they'd do one, maybe two standalone's- even if the potential were there to do a dozen films on just one niche of the Galactic Civil War. The current understanding is that Disney is looking to do stand alone's on individual, significant stories outside of the main story line being explored in the three trilogies. But I would certainly love a plethora of movies exploring the other stories of the war and the more 'average' battles and experiences.
that is kind of cool that they are doing stand alone movies with characters but if anything it be cool to see what they do with other star wars movies
You should be afraid, Palpatine. Destroying Alderaan was a grave mistake.
Indeed.
So uncivilized.
Obi-Wan Kenobi i read that in obi wan's voice
I have the high ground!
Tarkin did not have the high ground
To me, this sounds exactly like the aftermath of Pearl Harbor:
-An important location was destroyed (Pearl Harbor/Alderaan)
-The attack (or destruction) shock the world (or galaxy)
-Propaganda was created about it (Avenge Pearl Harbor/Remember Alderaan)
-A sleeping giant had awoken as an effect (United States/Rebel Alliance)
-Became the biggest mistake the enemy (Japanese Empire/Galactic Empire) had ever made
Yeah, precisely just the U.S. Prodded Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, the Rebellion probably tempted the Empire into attacking Alderaan .
Forgot to mention this:
- The protagonist (US/Rebels) destroyed the antagonist's key factor (The Jap's Naval Army/the Empire's Death Star), showing that they're not exactly invincible
well it mostly shocked the US. Europe had other stuff to deal with
Actually, Britain's prime minister at the time wanted the U.S. to enter the war. And with Pearl Harbor, he was relieved that the US is now on the "same boat" and said that the Allies have won.
I wouldn't really say pearl harbor was a mistake on Japan's behalf, If anything pearl harbor was what temporarily crippled America's Naval fleet and allowed Japan to start its conquest on east Asia. I'd say the one battle the Japanese fucked up on was the battle of Midway. I think a better analogy would be the boston Massacre when British soldiers gunned down multiple colonist, this resulted in thousands of colonist joining the American rebels and rallying against the British empire.
Even Papa Palps was surprised? He must have been like, “A surprise to be sure, but NOT a welcome one.”.
All the quest I did on this planet on swtor for nothing
A few millenia happened in between, it was for nothing even if Tarkin wasn't an idiot.
Lucky 7s haha :)
Nah.. It made a huge difference (in it's ficitonal context).
I had that feel back when I play Knights of the Old Republic...Taris...oh Taris.
Lucky 7s I imagine the sith faction beating up Tarkin's ghost...with the trooper and smuggler of the republic side
"What the hell's an aluminum falcon?"
In retrospect, the death star was a dumb idea to begin with, it was a waste of resources and time that could have been used for superior Imperial weaponry, vehicles, and ships. Even if palpatine wanted a planet destroying weapon, he could have maybe outfit an SSD with a death star laser. Would have been cheaper and easier.
you're right on point, many imperials wanted more 25,000 star destroyers
Pyroskies Search up the Conquerer Star Destroyer. It is pretty much what you just described and the video about it is even on this channel. I don't think it is canon though.
+Pyroskies
Is a super star destroyer even big enough to fit the gun and the reactor? Not that it matters, because a super star destroyer seen from the ground is a pants filling sight as it is.
gjesus051
Conqueror wasn't armed with 1:1 replica of DS laser. It carried smaller version, capable only of destroying small moons, and causing cataclysm on planet's continents.
The notable thing is that both Darth Vader, Grand Admiral Thrawn, and a few other imperial leaders who didn't have their heads up their asses outright opposed the creation of the Death Stars from day one. They viewed it as a wast of resources and believed that the could have spent them on making ships, armor, weaponry, and other technology. This is even represented in the films "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force."
Basically they thought "Why are we making these useless things when we could have used what we made them with to create entire fleets and armies?" While the second Death Star had it more so than the first, ultimately, both Death Stars lacked versatility, and the previous people mentioned viewed them as waste of resources.
This gives the Star Wars universe much more depth. The way it shows how such a tragic event effected everyone within the galaxy. It especially gives the reader an imagination on how the natives of Alderaan must've felt when they discovered what happened to their home-world.
Loner I agree with you. But then again Galaxy seemed to be pretty indifferent to the destruction of Hosnian System...
In fact, the Death Star had only one purpose : it was the Vader’s weapon for destroying Obi Wan’s high ground, by destroyoing the ground itself.
Alderaan to the Empire “If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”
If I was palpatine, I would publicly denounce Tarkin or some other officer that had died in the Death Stars destruction, calling him a war criminal and donating large portions of money to an Alderaan based charity
He tried this in legends...but Vader was present and that basically blew that excuse out of the water...which would result in Vader getting punished
with the death star's cost they could have made thousands of star destroyers and recruited millions of troops
They should´ve followed thrawn and Vader´s advice.
Final Sebas yep
Tarek Chamas
or made a few dozen of those superlaser SSDs that can blow up small moons. with enough of them (maybe a dozen) concentrating fire it would destroy a planet, and 12 big ships would be a lot less vulnerable than 1 death star. at worst, half of them could at least escape.
and besides, 1 shot of these would be enough to glass a planet anyway.
Tarek Chamas I'm pretty sure money was no object to the empire or the emperor. Especially how fast they build a bigger and better death star.
Or make better vechiles and equipments for the troops.
1:23 erm... it blew itself up.... sais palpatine trying not to get crucified. XD
Moments before Aldeeran was annihilated, a Princess Leia in chain told to Moff Tarkin something to this effect: "The more you tighten your grip, more worlds will escape from it".
Only had he listened.
when palpatine facepalms, you done fucked up.
It is an absolute privilege to be a part of this channel. This particular topic was very engrossing. I had no idea that it would backfire like that.
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Fact Free yeah man keep doing these videos they are interesting as fuck
You had no idea that the arbitrary destruction of the "spiritual heart of the galaxy" might backfire? Come on, dude.
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*Aldeeran gets blowed up....
........all blowed up.
Palpatine on Twitter: My Thoughts and Prayers go out to the victims and their families.
#neverforget
One of the ultimate acts of cowardice and weakness. They chose to destroy a completely defenseless planet, one with no weapons at all, and yet the Death Star was wiped out against a force that could actually fight back.
Vader was right about one thing. It did have the ability to create problems.
"The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers..."
If tarkin survived death star then palpatine would prob execute him even if he didnt there would be many bounters after tarkin
There must have been like 10 huge rebellions and Coruscant must've went up in flames.
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Hey, thanks so much for the support :) And yeah, that's part of the reason I make these videos, just so I can interact with the community. (and don't worry, I see all my comments lol)
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Palpatine must have been like "At that moment he knew, he fucked up".
The Empire: "alright, let's blow up a planet to scare the enemy"
The Rebel Alliance: "oh hell no, you done goofed"
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic he could save others from death, but not himself.
ZerozNL Is it possible to learn about this power?
Not from a jedi
Anakin: um, sir it's 3:00 am in the morning let me sleep!
Palpatine was actually remorseful about the destruction of Alderaan? Maybe he was more misunderstood than we realized...
C PT #RememberAlderaan
He wasn't really remorseful, he was just trying to ease tensions with the angry people across the galaxy.
killerphoenix115 But he still regretted the repercussions it brought. Oddly enough, this still showed that, in a way, he *DID* still see value in the lives of billions. Sure, it wasn't for humanity's sake, but this shows that he wasn't completely irrational or psychopathic.
There's no doubt that he felt that same disturbance in the force.
C PT The Sith want order, it's just that in the end they're all motivated by selfishness and that isn't really good for the entire Galaxy
The senate tweeted: I am deeply saddened by the destruction of alderann
Tarkin: Emperor Palpatine, I have tested The Death Stars main weapon.
Palpatine: Good. Which planet have you tested it on?
Tarkin: Alderaan, my lord.
Palpatine: *uses force lightning*
Here's how the Empire could have explained Alderaan's destruction without being as subtle as a chainsaw to the crotch: The Death Star's target was a remote corner of the planet, simply to demonstrate the power of the Death Star to the Galaxy as a whole. The superlaser was only at absolute minimum power, again simply a demonstration. However, the chosen target just happened to be a massive underground weapons and munitions stockpile. Among these were, upon later examination, several grams of antimatter. This proves that Princess Leia was, in fact, a complete and utter liar and nothing more than a traitor.
It would have helped if they had simply told the truth from the Start. Unfortunately, the explosion destroyed any evidence to prove anything.
@@George-Hawthorne or that they blamed the actual culprit, Tarkin, and say he had gone rogue with the decision to destroy Alderaan
@@ntfoperative9432 Hell say this Tarkin decided to use the power of the Death Star to stage a coup. Say he learned that the Empire killed his son who had joined the rebellion and wanted revenge.
If we had more men like you the Empire would've crushed the rebels a long time ago
@@George-Hawthornethis is the perfect way to explain it. It even makes the rebel Bail Organa look like a loyal servant to the empire
You know your plan backfired when imperials among their own ranks defected to the rebel side
The Death Star was the very definition of "putting all of your eggs in to one basket"
Good job Tarkin...
During the time of the Empire, Alderaan had a population of 2 billion people. Now, imagine that this entire population was suddenly eradicated, vanishing into thin air. It's an act of sheer madness and unquestionably the most shocking event I've encountered in Star Wars canon.
You're so good at fleshing out every inch of the star wars universe, and do it in a way that's very interesting to hear. Good job :)
One of the lessons of history: attacking civilians to scare of your enemy only results in more volunteers for the enemys army.
Worked that way in 1940 in Finnland, 1941 in Britain an pretty much in any other conflict it was practised
Indeed, and It’s still happening.
*COUGH* Hiroshima and Nagasaki Bombings
@@noplesnono9656 Eh that's a little bit different. Japan was completely beaten and had no hope of winning no matter what. That was just extra incentive. Things like Pearl Harbor, the Finland thing, and Great Britain thing are better explain that they tried to scare them into submission before they were a threat.
I've noticed on these videos that a lot of the population facts ('thousands joined the rebel alliance' etc) seem way off to me. Star wars is based in a huge galaxy with hundreds (if not thousands) of inhabited planets. I would assume that planets such as Courscant or any other city planets would have on the numbers of trillions of individuals, and least populated planets like Jakku or Hoth would have in the hundreds of thousands. With this it's simple to assume there are maybe a couple hundred trillion or a couple quadrillion beings in this galaxy- and that's just the planets taken into account, not to mention moons, asteroids, space bases etc. So something like a couple thousand rebels or a couple million clones really doesn't add up. Imagine this: 15 million clones spread about 5000 locations across the galaxy- that leaves 3000 per location. That's a very very small amount.
15 Million Clones would be nice.. we only had 3!!!!!! MILLION
Yes. That's a major problem in all of Sci-Fi worlds. Even Star Trek. But looking at Star Wars it's crazy. It's like no one does math. Let's assume for the sake of doing easy math that there are 1 Quadrillion beings in the Star Wars galaxy. That's a 1 followed by 15 zeroes. If even 1/2 of 1 percent (.005) join the rebel cause that is FIVE TRILLION PEOPLE.
Clearly Star Wars has a major math problem. The population is so huge that realistically the Empire should have never lost. Just through sheer numbers it should be unstoppable. Imagine the Empire has 2% of the total population in uniform and that is 20 trillion people.
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Yesii Aliah How much of the Expanded Universe do you know?
A planet blowing up would have an affect on other planets orbits right?
TheS1E2A3L4 not necessarily, the nearby planets orbit the nearest sun, not Alderan, but the debris could have damaged other planets if they crossed paths, basically a meteor coming towards them, but that didn't happen, so in short, no.
Only the ones in the same solar system as Alderaan, the other 99.999999999% of planets are so far away that it would have no effects what so ever.
Star system not solar system. Solar refers to The Sun, so the only solar system is the one we inhabit. All other systems of planets orbiting stars are star systems.
Clumsy0015 To be fair though, there are more suns than just our. Other planets orbit suns in their systems, so saying solar system isn't necessarily wrong, but it technically is. And at the same time, our sun is a star, so wouldn't we also be considered a star system.
Clumsy0015 Same thing.
Palpatine: You can destroy a planet
Tarkin: Understood *destroys a planet* did it
Palpatine: You destroyed a random planet no one knows about right
Tarkin: Ummmmmm no.........
I’m imagin a robot chicken sketch similar to the one with palpatine reaction the destruction of the Death Star where he’s yelling at tarkin on how much his plan backfired maybe vader stand in the background
You should write that now please that be hilarious!
@@lexramstudios1386 nah you need someone who’s actually funny to write that
The galaxy had Truthers and those who believed the Empires "Official Story".
They had galactic wide internet debates on YavinTube.
Galactic Truthers had facts and science on their side, while those who towed the Empire's story would argue by resorting to character assassination, name calling, and hollow threats. Many key witnesses had questionable deaths... ;-)
So in a way, while showing the galaxy what the Empire is capable of, they have basically became the architects of their own destruction as by destroying Alderaan which is a key figure among the Empire at the time, they have unknowingly made the Rebel Alliance stronger and it was only made worst when Tarkin and the first Death Star was destroyed. You know it is bad news if even Palpatine himself was not expecting Tarkin to destroy Alderaan in an attempt end the Rebels. Tarkin's attempt to multitask went wrong. This only gave the galaxy a proper reason to bring an end to the Galactic Empire.
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didn't Dead Star destroyed more planets before alderran
no alderran was the first planet it destroyed
Jannette Hoff It attacked Jeddah before that.
So Tarkin escaped execution by dying in battle?
@WiiManElite i mean tarkin said "make no mistake from now on failure will have consuquenses"on rebels and punisment for failure is the 1st rule of Empire and aresko and his friend(i dont remember his name)were executed because they were just failed to hunt down the rebels but tarkin litelery killed 2billion ppl from Empire population with thousands of imperials milions of imperials (especily High ranking ones such as yularin)died and Vader almost died because of his failure bro he would be executed on slowiest way
Ya know you’ve done something extreme when even Papa Palpatine is shocked at what you did… 😅
How the SWTOR community reacted: HOORAY!!!
Good video, I like the irony that the destruction of Alderaan caused the mass uprising against the Empire that Tarkin initially sought to prevent by building the Death Star in the first place.Did you ever see my previous comments on a 'What If" scenario involving the Empire winning the Galactic Civil War, and how Palpatine and Vader would have dealt with eventual extra-galactic Vong invasion in the Legends timeline.
Star wars theory needs to make a video on what would happen if Tarkin hadn't blown up Alderaan
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uh, NOPE
actually there was a thing the empire did during the return every year. they would hide their star destroyers in the rubble and capture any ships that came in an attempt to capture members of the alliance.
See, now this reaction makes sense. In The last Jedi, the complete opposite happens, even after the super death star is destroyed.
Thanks Tarkin, you enraged everyone in the galaxy!
Empire saying Alderaan blew itself up has same energy as dog ate my homework.
Feeling sorry for Dooku's wine
Tarkin: Yeah that will show em whos boss!
The Galaxy: Bitch WTF!
Tarkin: I dun goofed
The Emperor: No Shit Sherlock
Tarkin and Sidious were the ones who truly wanted Death Star. They were politicians, not military strategists. They did not understand the military blunder of the Death Star like Thrawn and Vader did. Thrawn being a tactical genius understood that the Death Star could only bring order to a single system unlike a mobile TIE fighter fleet. Vader also agreed with Thrawn and gave him new ideas on how to improve the TIE fighters. From a warrior's standpoint he also emphasised that people will only rally behind leaders, not weapons, no matter how destructive. Tarkin and Sidious wanted to rule with fear. Fear while powerful is also brittle. Thrawn wanted to rule with loyalty. Vader used fear but also understood the value of loyalty. When you let politicians dictate military operations, disasters always follow.
Nobody:
The news headline: "Alderaan fucking explodes!"
“Heh… well, Tarkin, the harder you try to grip water, the more you fail to hold it.”
Mao Zedong : I've killed more people than anyone ever.
Grand Moff Tarkin : Hold my laser
Fact free Just wondering did rebels use flame throwers like flametroopers
And what were they called
Rebels did use flame throwers and I believe they were called flametroopers
Crowned Stag trololololololololololo
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like "big deal it's just a rock "
In one of the young Jedi novels, Leia’s children go there to get a piece of the planet to give to her as a gift.
Tarkin: "Alderran was destroyed because... well, the explosion was just so cool!"
(crickets)
"Well, I guess you had to be there."
Had Tarkin survived, Palpatine would surely have had him punished him severely for such an arrogant blunder resulting in such backlash, turning many Imperial citizens and even officers against the Empire and justifying the Rebel Alliance's cause that more joined with them, turning the Rebels into a real threat that the Empire couldn't deny
Tarkin called Leia far too trusting? He was far too arrogant
It's Kinda like when Japan attacked America In ww2 they wasn't ready for the backlash, and eventually lost
Yeah, they even tried to negotiate peace. XD
Sporebubu Lier The Americans wouldn't take anything but unconditional surrender
Yup, Japan was massacred after their mistake
The Empire used the Death Star to destroy a planet in order to discourage their enemies to challenge them and therefore they actually got even more enemies, ironic
Palpatine : A surprise, to be sure .
Tarkin : But a welcome one ?
Palpatine : ...not quite.
Empire: *uses Death Star to destroy Alderaan*
Galaxy: You have chosen death.