Writing Drums For Non Drummers

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 211

  • @TheMusicLab
    @TheMusicLab  4 роки тому +38

    We recently reworked this video and added some extra information! Check it out here for the 2020 version: ua-cam.com/video/bQLlgMJMdrA/v-deo.html

    • @yuripartitski7284
      @yuripartitski7284 3 роки тому

      I’ll humanize your midi drums. Check links on my channel.

  • @Manas-co8wl
    @Manas-co8wl 5 років тому +405

    Thanks man.
    1:42 - 1. Basic Kick & Snare
    2:20 - 2. Basic High Hat
    3:05 - 3. Kick Variants (Offbeat 2, 4 / +Cymbal)
    4:27 - 4. Half Time
    (Reggae, Heavy, Downbeat)
    5:27 - 5. Double Time Kick Accent (Punk, Thrash)
    6:01 - 6. Double Time Snare Accent (Common)
    7:18 - 7. Basic Fill (Tom Drum Run / + Kick)
    7:54 - 8. Complex Fill (+ Snare)
    9:00 - 9. Shakers, Cowbells, Claps, etc.

  • @amazingfizzyfiredayshappyf7168
    @amazingfizzyfiredayshappyf7168 4 роки тому +215

    This was extremely helpful as someone who is just starting to song write and has never played drums before.

  • @somerandomguy802
    @somerandomguy802 6 років тому +248

    Oh thank God I’m so terrible at writing MIDI drums

  • @carlitoxb110
    @carlitoxb110 4 роки тому +36

    thank you my drummer is passed out on the floor and we need to practice

  • @alrecks619
    @alrecks619 5 років тому +113

    keep in mind that the drummer only has two hands, unless your drummer is Marco Minnemann

    • @Ruukas9
      @Ruukas9 4 роки тому +11

      Drumers also using legs

    • @geetarguy777
      @geetarguy777 4 роки тому

      Are you sure? Rick Allen isn’t sure.
      ua-cam.com/video/_rgBm3pHq3c/v-deo.html

    • @timbroski4487
      @timbroski4487 4 роки тому

      Or Kai Hahto

  • @vladinstein
    @vladinstein 5 років тому +56

    Dude, I love how you explained everything. Simple, really easy to understand, made me feel how fun it is (as opposed to being overwhelmed by information). Great video!

  • @rubenspoolder3567
    @rubenspoolder3567 5 років тому +97

    Ah, so this is the reason we dont get called to play on records anymore

    • @bobbywillis1466
      @bobbywillis1466 4 роки тому +34

      Ruben Spoolder yeah I guess but real drummers will always sound superior to artificial drums that try to sound authentic

    • @dangdrjay3011
      @dangdrjay3011 4 роки тому +1

      Bobby Willis fact

  • @SteveBedard
    @SteveBedard 6 років тому +50

    The way I do my midi drum tracks is I record multiple tracks in real-time. Example, I put the kick drum on one track and perform live using a keyboard. To help me keep the beat I would strike a key for the kick drum but since the snare hasn't been recorded yet I would thump on the table. I know it's weird but it's a lot faster than drawing midi notes, i just hate drawing midi notes. Anyway it's best to have separate track for drums, it's easier when mixing. After that, i quantize to check for errors

    • @charlesurdy-barnes413
      @charlesurdy-barnes413 5 років тому +8

      His instruction is very good. But unfortunately, my brain doesn't work that way. I can't keep up. I feel more comfortable following your procedures. I like how you thump the table. However it might sound to some it is a great tip for those who think more like you and me. Could you do a video showing your process. I seem to get it more for my ADHD learning processes

    • @fef6203
      @fef6203 4 роки тому +3

      Depends on the person I suppose, but it's waaay faster literally clicking in the notes then actually performing them. Isn't that obvious? Also as sombody who has over 40 + tracks in a song having the drums confined to one track is much simpler than a separate track for each drum-piece. Mixing can always be done, but the composition remains more important.

    • @DaleStrickland
      @DaleStrickland 3 роки тому

      That's exactly how I've considered doing it, except not quantizing it if I'm looking for a more human-sounding mix

  • @CaptainSaminoz
    @CaptainSaminoz 5 років тому +9

    I've been trying to write beats with no drumming experience for the past year and a half. I learned more in 5 minutes than in 40 videos combined. Thank you so much for this video man! :)

  • @Adam-zo7nz
    @Adam-zo7nz 4 роки тому +7

    Not the video I was looking for but still very interesting. Thank you.

  • @theonlyjoe_
    @theonlyjoe_ 5 років тому +10

    Here’s a tip, most songs that have the best fills (imo) keep it very basic by playing around with the groove (the bass snare bit) like adding an extra snare or just a snare roll it doesn’t need to mental af, unless you’re doing punk or metal

  • @nuff6512
    @nuff6512 4 роки тому +1

    This is the ultimate beginners guide to drum pattern would suggest to everyone who is starting music production
    Edit:and it is so easy to understand
    Beautifully explained

  • @uniworkhorse
    @uniworkhorse 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you so much man, the breaking down (no pun intended) of the fills and different styles was great!

  • @bradleysouthard7131
    @bradleysouthard7131 5 років тому +7

    Dude, super concise, and all the information I could have needed. Thank you! I feel like I understand more about drums and programming than I did before! :)

  • @michaellennerman7844
    @michaellennerman7844 5 років тому +4

    Holy crap thank you. I've never been good at anything to do with drums. This has helped me A LOT.

  • @davidleasterlingjr2038
    @davidleasterlingjr2038 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for dumbing this down for us non traditional drummers!

  • @josiahsantonil9480
    @josiahsantonil9480 4 роки тому +2

    Not a drummer but this has opened new possibilities for me! Thanks so much man! Cheers from the Philippines!

  • @ikarus8982
    @ikarus8982 7 років тому +91

    "Sounds like Slaves" I'm crying I'm laughing do much. lol

    • @angerock49
      @angerock49 2 роки тому

      Thanks for capitalising this, I was SO confused but the cap made me understand it's a band x)

    • @runningoutofspac9565
      @runningoutofspac9565 2 роки тому

      @@angerock49 ...

  • @Virtual-Media
    @Virtual-Media Рік тому

    Struggled with this for longer than I care to mention, was well on my way just minutes after viewing this!
    You the Man!!

  • @0800333pedro
    @0800333pedro 7 років тому +29

    actually the strong beat is 1, and you could say the 3 is "half" strong. So, to give strenght to the 2 and 4 they hit the snare

  • @Emcfree2084
    @Emcfree2084 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome tutorial

  • @krisztian76
    @krisztian76 6 років тому +34

    1:50 it's Billie Jean, not boring at all!

  • @WrestlingGames101
    @WrestlingGames101 6 років тому +4

    This is so useful man, thank you. You and Joe r the greatest!

  • @funkyjones
    @funkyjones 4 роки тому

    One of the best and simplest explanations of half-time I've heard.

  • @Notra_bel
    @Notra_bel 2 роки тому +1

    pretty clean and understandable explanation you did there.You deserved a like from me bro! thank you for this video.

  • @rickileighedwards4871
    @rickileighedwards4871 4 роки тому +1

    This helped SO much! Thanks buddy!

  • @davidwimble9907
    @davidwimble9907 2 роки тому

    Very helpful, thanks! I'll check out the updated version.

  • @mydartpen
    @mydartpen 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing very well done thankyou

  • @moche2303
    @moche2303 4 роки тому

    I have been needing this video. INCREDIBLY helpful thank you so much.

  • @ikarus8982
    @ikarus8982 7 років тому +1

    A lot of hip-hop is half time, it also makes it a lot easier to edit smaller areas of a song.

  • @ToastedCigar
    @ToastedCigar 5 років тому +4

    Actually, in Western music beats 1 and 3 are accented in 4/4 -time music. Beats 2 and 4 just feel accented because that's where the snare usually hits.

  • @thechoripankiller
    @thechoripankiller 4 роки тому +2

    1:42 "so that sounds a little bit idk B O R I N G"
    Michael Jackson: Are you messing with me buddy?

  • @ridhomblr
    @ridhomblr 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you! this will really help and improve on my music

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION 4 роки тому

    You're inspiring me to think about drums in a different way.

  • @moharmon770
    @moharmon770 Рік тому

    This is really helpful... Awesome stuff!

  • @williambrackett8229
    @williambrackett8229 2 роки тому

    Really helpful!!!!! Ty!!!!!

  • @abdulabad3733
    @abdulabad3733 6 років тому +1

    Very helpful - need to track mock drums for my band until we get a drummer. Thank you!

  • @thegreatwhiterainbow4277
    @thegreatwhiterainbow4277 4 роки тому +1

    Youre guiding me through my college course rn 😂😂 thank you

  • @Petsublak
    @Petsublak 5 років тому +1

    Brilliant, great info. Proper helped us out. Tks👍

  • @sienasutherland5192
    @sienasutherland5192 5 років тому +2

    This video is so helpful, thank you!!

  • @amimaster
    @amimaster 3 роки тому

    1:12 except for when you're in Italy. They accent all the beats for unknown reasons.

  • @laurengoldsings
    @laurengoldsings 3 роки тому

    SO helpful and clear thank you!!

  • @cwbyallstar9545
    @cwbyallstar9545 5 років тому +1

    ily

  • @djpoole7015
    @djpoole7015 4 роки тому

    Thank you this helped so much!!!

  • @gordianknot6867
    @gordianknot6867 Рік тому

    Creedence clearwater crying ay the start of this video 🥲

  • @PascalJeanty9183
    @PascalJeanty9183 4 роки тому

    Good work! You deserved that blue👍

  • @Ludix147
    @Ludix147 7 років тому +2

    There are actually some new tips in there for me :D

  • @heymusiclovers8361
    @heymusiclovers8361 4 роки тому

    Thank you very much!! Love it!!

  • @peksn
    @peksn 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the video! It really helped me out!

  • @TheRoadrunnerguy
    @TheRoadrunnerguy 5 років тому

    Sooooooo helpful. You’re the man

  • @alicemaymusix
    @alicemaymusix 3 роки тому

    oh my god I so needed this! thank you :) xx

  • @SoraiaLMotta
    @SoraiaLMotta 9 місяців тому

    Thanks

  • @jitk1
    @jitk1 6 років тому +8

    you can have claps...I have the clap

    • @bobbywillis1466
      @bobbywillis1466 4 роки тому

      Thesummerstriangle I love adding some clap claps

  • @felipemunhoz8230
    @felipemunhoz8230 2 роки тому

    great vid bro, but i'm still strugling to get that 16th kinda soul natural swing. Please, can you make a video about that??

  • @penguinmonk7661
    @penguinmonk7661 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much, this was super helpfull :3

  • @julieosang9077
    @julieosang9077 4 роки тому

    I would like to have lessons on playing the trumpet and the flute. Thank you

  • @julie.musicar
    @julie.musicar 3 роки тому

    so helpful thank youuu

  • @Echoxxx
    @Echoxxx 5 років тому

    very helpful, thank you!!

  • @Marek_Vasilev
    @Marek_Vasilev 5 років тому +14

    You are pretty confusing to listen to, not gonna lie, but your examples were good, so cheers mate! c:

  • @eoinmurphy5757
    @eoinmurphy5757 2 роки тому

    very helpful, well done

  • @lloydrummell2509
    @lloydrummell2509 5 років тому

    Great video, thanks!

  • @casertanick
    @casertanick 7 років тому +11

    I am a drummer but I can't record drums because of quality, so I need to use MIDI. I just can't find a good free Windows program

    • @mae-maehan6703
      @mae-maehan6703 7 років тому

      Nick's Good Universe you can maybe try using notation software like noteflight or musescore (which are both free). the samples might sound not great, but I guess that's better than nothing lol

    • @jwcorcoran9838
      @jwcorcoran9838 6 років тому +3

      Download Kontakt Player (free). Then download GGD Lite (free), and load it up in Kontakt

    • @barto1035
      @barto1035 6 років тому

      I use TuxGuitar from here; sourceforge.net/projects/tuxguitar/

    • @codyt014
      @codyt014 6 років тому +3

      Mk powerdrums arent bad

    • @SeleDreams
      @SeleDreams 6 років тому +2

      there's Hydrogen if you only want drums, else there's cakewalk by bandlab and LMMS

  • @Sigmaairav
    @Sigmaairav 2 роки тому

    I think when it comes to writing drum parts, it is my weak point. I can produce polyrhythms and repeatable complex grooves however, fills are something I have not done very often as I don't fully comprehend their utility in musical narrative. I struggle to ascertain what form the paintbrushes that are drum fills give to the overall painting of music.

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  2 роки тому +2

      I see drum fills as a use for transitions... If you want to go from one section to another you can use a fill to build to that change and really emphasize the new section arriving! ... That how I have always viewed them anyway

  • @remshawmusiek7565
    @remshawmusiek7565 3 роки тому

    Helpful 👍🏽👌🏽

  • @RGE_Music
    @RGE_Music 3 роки тому

    learned so much

  • @georgeabraham7256
    @georgeabraham7256 11 місяців тому

    What count do cymbal crashes go? I think its weird to think about it because its on the one?.. it twists the brain because its an ending sound on a start.. Id like to hear someone elses approch or solution..

  • @ThisisNukezZ
    @ThisisNukezZ 5 років тому +1

    thanks m8 that is exactly what i was searching for, should get more views tho great for beginners in beat producing

  • @godz2928
    @godz2928 Рік тому

    Hi what app/program are you using on this video? As a beginner i think its important to point out as well what program you use thank you

  • @ma888u
    @ma888u 5 років тому

    Thank you!!

  • @sobirjonismailov3823
    @sobirjonismailov3823 5 років тому

    vey useful. thanks

  • @CustodianVirgil
    @CustodianVirgil 2 роки тому

    I love the video. Do you have anything in terms of how it's timed correctly?

  • @afonsomendes92
    @afonsomendes92 5 років тому +3

    guys if you write *\0 ANYTHING 0/* on a computer, you need Gramarly

    • @justinle3745
      @justinle3745 5 років тому +2

      lmaoooo underrated comment

  • @MrLongduckdoong
    @MrLongduckdoong 6 років тому +3

    LEYKIS 101!

  • @momins-topic4470
    @momins-topic4470 3 роки тому

    Very usefull

  • @leprisonnier7957
    @leprisonnier7957 4 роки тому

    All that without a single note

  • @ecocallingvideos
    @ecocallingvideos Рік тому

    Name of the program to create the beats?

  • @F90sTeenanger
    @F90sTeenanger 2 роки тому

    What is the name of program tha he use in video?

  • @bens6423
    @bens6423 2 роки тому

    what program is this? i need to make some drum beats. what other programs are out there that are free?

  • @Mike_the_Barbarian
    @Mike_the_Barbarian 7 років тому +1

    Nice! Can you share the midi files with us ? Obviously not song ready but a fun starting point.

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 років тому +2

      You should be able to recreate any of these beats within a minute! On any software!

  • @ErikaMariTakahashi
    @ErikaMariTakahashi 3 роки тому

    metronome is the key!
    i learned to play instrument using only metronome, Chords, Melodies and theories on my own.
    i don't know why even someone taught me how to play guitar, piano or drums, still can't learn, but instead i only learn and master it on my own! LOL.
    maybe something's wrong with me!

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 роки тому

      I worry you didn't actually watch the video, as we aren't talking about playing drums. Good on you for teaching yourself though!

    • @ErikaMariTakahashi
      @ErikaMariTakahashi 3 роки тому

      @@TheMusicLab well i actually listen! i just comment on my own but thanks btw. i just came here accidentally!
      what Daw did you use?

  • @EduardoGaitan
    @EduardoGaitan 3 роки тому

    Do i need to have a MIDI to do this type of things just wanting to spice up my covers

    • @thomasmoore7013
      @thomasmoore7013 3 роки тому

      Well, "a MIDI" isn't a singular thing. There are digital instruments which are controlled either by a MIDI controller (such as an electric keyboard) or directly by your DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). So in order to make a MIDI drum beat you would at least need the digital instrument, and possibly a MIDI controller depending on whether you wanted to play the part yourself or just draw it into the track. So if your question was "Do I need a MIDI controller" then the answer is: no, as long as you have a digital instrument and a DAW to put it in.

    • @EduardoGaitan
      @EduardoGaitan 3 роки тому

      @@thomasmoore7013 Got it so i need this kind of software and also a hardware aswell ¿maybe my current ketboard?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 роки тому

      Your current keyboard might work, but you can just draw it in with a mouse in any DAW (digital audio workstation)

  • @WaitingForTheHook
    @WaitingForTheHook 4 роки тому +2

    MIDI stands for :
    Make
    Instruments
    Do
    ....er stuff.

    • @dydroyen4922
      @dydroyen4922 3 роки тому

      i guess humour is subjective

    • @WaitingForTheHook
      @WaitingForTheHook 3 роки тому

      @@dydroyen4922 Some people are miserable and some people aren't. Hope your day gets better.

    • @dydroyen4922
      @dydroyen4922 3 роки тому

      @@WaitingForTheHook lmao did i hurt your feelings?

  • @brutallyremastered4255
    @brutallyremastered4255 4 роки тому

    When I'm in a crowd I insist on Motorik.

  • @NotALizardPerson69
    @NotALizardPerson69 7 років тому +5

    What DAW are u using? Is there any good free software that u know of?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 років тому

      Logic X Pro! Garageband is decent! I haven't used any others to be able to comment on them!

    • @teamsuperminecraft
      @teamsuperminecraft 7 років тому

      MrRingo123 studio one prime is really good but doesn't have many plugins and you can't buy any until u upgrade the program but it has many instruments

    • @cidshroom
      @cidshroom 6 років тому +2

      Get Reaper, the trial never expires, it just shows you a 5 second splash box forever. It's got great compatibility so your VST, VST2, VST3, etc. will work. It's simpler than most DAW's and more powerful

    • @borjonx
      @borjonx 6 років тому

      Ableton Live is insanely cool & powerful. I'm not a musician, but love playing around - the lite version of Live is only $100 and well worth it. A free version also comes with several $100 midi keyboard/pad combos.

    • @ta-ya-music
      @ta-ya-music 6 років тому

      crack fl studio if u want I have a portable version of it.

  • @blackthovenproductions4561
    @blackthovenproductions4561 6 років тому +1

    what about the call and answer. I think that this is the most important when programming drum.

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  6 років тому

      Call and a answer tends to mean using multiple instruments and is a technique normally used for counter melodies. What do you mean?

    • @blackthovenproductions4561
      @blackthovenproductions4561 6 років тому

      What i mean is that those drums dont have any change over the time.

    • @blackthovenproductions4561
      @blackthovenproductions4561 6 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/7zwXEFXz-fc/v-deo.html

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  6 років тому

      This only really applies to percussive instruments used in 'Samba' and African drumming, not a drum kit, used in popular rock and pop.

  • @mscbeats5846
    @mscbeats5846 6 років тому

    Could you please do a video like this but for hip-hop drums ? thanks x

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  6 років тому +1

      It the exact same method! You just use different samples!

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 5 років тому

      Use 808 samples, and put the kick just off the 3.

  • @clawmusic4372
    @clawmusic4372 4 роки тому

    What software are you using?

  • @nicolasboisvert2737
    @nicolasboisvert2737 5 років тому

    is the logicial free?

  • @Distracted_Person
    @Distracted_Person 2 роки тому

    What software program is he using

    • @tub3st3ak
      @tub3st3ak 2 роки тому +1

      SSD (Steven Slate Drums)

  • @Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
    @Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo Рік тому

    0:53 I Western classical music you do not accent on beats 2 and 4.

  • @ajthepoppunkkid8415
    @ajthepoppunkkid8415 7 років тому

    Are you gonna do any more Reviews episodes?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 років тому

      Yep! We've just taken a little break!

  • @SAZIZMUSIC
    @SAZIZMUSIC 5 років тому

    Very informative video. Thank you very much :-)

  • @danmiley8904
    @danmiley8904 7 років тому +1

    What programme do you use ?

  • @RealJamesSmith
    @RealJamesSmith 7 років тому

    A link where I can access this with Ableton?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 років тому

      You should be able to create a midi track, of which you can set the instrument to be the midi drum kit, then create an event on the timeline, double click on it and you should be good to go!

  • @digitab4446
    @digitab4446 3 роки тому

    Vhe yeoo kaey

  • @ClearAdventure
    @ClearAdventure 3 роки тому

    What drum program software are you using, brother? I want something like that where I can just mouse click where I want the next hit! I would _really_ appreciate an answer, thank you!!

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 роки тому +1

      Every single DAW will let you do that! It's called midi, and every DAW will let you 'draw midi'. The specific DAW I'm using is Logic Pro X, but you could use: Ableton Live, Pro Tools, Reaper etc

    • @ClearAdventure
      @ClearAdventure 3 роки тому

      @@TheMusicLab I have Reaper, I know about midi and DAWS, my question was what drum software you are using?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 роки тому +2

      Ah, I see! .. The drum software in this video is built into Logic, but for Reaper I use the free SSD5 drum sampler

    • @ClearAdventure
      @ClearAdventure 3 роки тому

      @@TheMusicLab Awesome, thank you, brother! :-D

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 роки тому +1

      No worries!

  • @iangarza990
    @iangarza990 3 роки тому

    you look like buck from ice age

  • @mikemodels928
    @mikemodels928 4 роки тому

    Hey folks, i have a question. I would really love to record covers of Sabaton songs. Is there any way to load ready drum tabs into any program? I will be greatful for answer.

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  4 роки тому +1

      No, you can however load ready made midi files if you can find a midi file for the drums!

    • @mikemodels928
      @mikemodels928 4 роки тому

      @@TheMusicLab thanks for the answer. It is gonna be helpful :)

  • @godofredomalparido
    @godofredomalparido 4 роки тому

    what app are you using?