Schrader Tubeless MTB Conversion Hack for less than $20. Step by Step
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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After trail testing this setup, there was an area of weakness that I felt could be improved without a huge cost. Using threaded valve stems would make the seal around the valve more robust.
Such as the Stans No Tubes option: amzn.to/2BJ7j8U or these ones: amzn.to/2TRWrgc
That said I rode a full week of trails (150km) with the valves as they are in the video and only had one case of needing to shake the tire sealant around to reseal the valve after adding air.
It's worth reading the comments below for more great tips on DIY Tubeless. In particular Robert Trageser's comments on the split tube method.
Items I needed to purchase to do this conversion:
Stans No Tubes Sealant : amzn.to/2IKooBV
Gorilla Tape: amzn.to/2pEHRLo
Valve Tool: amzn.to/2ylMii8
There are numerous benefits to running a tubeless set up. I wont go into the reasons here, but assume you've done the research and decided to give it a go. The cost of going tubeless can run from the very expensive option of new tubeless specific wheels and tyres, through to tubeless kits that include rim tape valve and sealant, all the way down to what we are showing here.
In fact, the total cost of this conversion was $10 worth of Gorilla tape and $20 for the sealant (both of which I used less than half). I also had to buy a valve tool that cost less than $5.
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wow from old schrader valves? tubeless? amazing, your like just engineer tires. Thanks.
I appreciate the details... if the tape is too wide... the extent the tape should reach in the rim. So many other videos gloss over these important details. Thanks!
This is the first video that answers my question about the width of the tape.I was curious about the width.The videos that I have seen don’t mention the width. I am converting my bike that I am building to tubeless and have seen several videos on how to go about it.Also that tip about the valve is good to know.Thanks for the info.
I am surprised the valvestem sealed and held without being screwed down.
Nice work!
In practice it was a bit dodgy but the air pressure of the tyre did hold it in place.. If you have a schrader tube with a threaded stem that would work better
Yeah that seems like it would be more impossible than seating bead with floor pump, which I have done and is definitely possible with the right tricks.
devianb video of the bead seating please
@@devianb one trick is starter fluid sprayed into the tire and a match . Mechanics put on backhoe tires that way .I used it on motorcycle tires and lawn mowers . But idk if the sealent is flammable . If so , then don't do that .
When you you use two or three layers of gorilla tape then you don't need air compressor or co2 canister. You can simply use normal floor pump.
Same pump as mine, I managed to use that pump to deal with all my TR tires/tyres so far.
Thanks Ted...Well produced DIY....Thanks 4 sharing!!
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Great no nonsense video, thank you.
Disclaimer: you need a rim that’s got the lip so the head sits properly
Just adding to your use threaded valves.
I've found opening the internal hole (tube side) to 11mm or so helps a lot with getting a good seal on the valve as it lefts more rubber sit into the hole.
Just my 2 cents.
Dave Webster great suggestion. I’ve also found if your valve has threads further down the shaft you can use a lock nut to secure the valve to the rim which helps.
My valve popped out of the hole toward the axle!! Leave as much rubber on as possible
Gorilla tape is a pain in the rear when you try to take it off at a later date after it is mixed with sealant. Stans tape is a much cleaner solution.
or use inner tube cut to size and glued down with guttering mastic it wont budge an atom
Nothing is imposible. 😁Good job. Thanks I NEED TRY. 👍🏽
any luck?
Great video, just subscribed.
I’m doing my next weekend I hope 🤞 it goes well
How did it go? Threaded valves are the key
instructions unclear, eats the sugar soap
Good job
Great tutorial, ty very much!
Awesome! 👏👌👏👌👏👌👏👌👍👍👍👍👍
Some words of warning: Gorilla tape is super strong but getting this shit off fucking sucks. If you need to re-apply the tape in the future then you need a clean rim, and removing the gunk from gorilla tape took me about 1 hour per wheel with solvent. Using a clean rim is crucial for tubeless and I found that Stan’s rim tape sucks unless your rim is super clean.
So dumb question. Are tubeless rims lighter? Why is this better than sealant in tubes? I’m still learning. Thanks for the video.
Tubless rims generally seal up better. I don't think it's a question of lightness. I would say most people would use sealeant even if using tubless ready rims and tires. Correct me if I'm wrong internet.
SHWALLBE AIR SHOT $70 !
I recently tried to use a blackburn chamber style pump, it still didn't deliver the blast required to seat the bead as effectively as a CO2 or compressor. But I think that was more a function of the tire/rim combination
My attempts failed on the seal around the valve stem. I used a valve with a full thread and the threaded retaining ring that comes with a tube or valve. The shape of the rim interior is important and difficult to cut the valve stem rubber part to fit closely enough.
I understand that sealant weakens over time the rim tape adhesive and also tyres that are not designed for sealant.
At present I am still with tubes. But seems to me the future of bike tyres must be tubeless. O to have reliablity like car tyres!
Why did you buy such wide gorilla tape??? It comes in slimmer widths... should be using a glove on the hand turning tape....they sell hole adapters to convert for pesta valves, there is nothing keeping the Schrader valve tight in position like a presta valve... should have plugged the hole...
Failing at the cutting phase? Don’t worry cos Gorrilla tape comes in the 25mm ‘Handy Roll’ size. Made for cyclists!
Still can't find this in Australia. Plus we've moved onto wider rims in MTB now so not sure if the 25mm is still enough?
How long did it stay good? Can you do the same to a non tubeless ready rim and tire?
When I went tubeless with non tubeless tires and wheels my front tire started losing pressure overnight after a month like 45 psi down to 15. Added a little more sealant and so far 6 months with the occasional top up.
Was wondering what "HOLDS" the valve into the rim? What keeps it from being pushed into the rim/tire when you put an air chuck on it to ad air?
Hi Fred, A threaded valve stem would have been heaps better for this hack. It can still be done without, once the air chuck is attached just pull the valve back so it's seated again. (you can push on the back of the valve through the deflated tyre while you're pushing the air chuck on). Once inflated the air pressure pushes it out, but it's not a great solution I agree.
@@stephenjlr Thank you.
@@stephenjlr you can zip tie the outside... just around next to the rim so it dosent pop in.
@@simesimicevic8713 i use guttering mastic
Did the shredder valve stem would hold the rim ? As the there is no bolt ring in the nozzle over rim ?
It did hold. But it would have been more reliable if it was threaded
How often do you have to add air to your tubeless tires?
Muc off probably isn’t liking your method , it cost me 60 dollars a tire following their method .
Did you use a tube tire exterior or you had it replaced with tubeless exterior?
This was a regular tyre.
is there a sealant that can be purchased in Australia that is as good as Stans. Is the brand Slime any good?
John Malihi Stan’s is available in Australia. Just ask your local bike shop.
muc-off is the best one i have found so far that i use
Would you say gorilla tape is a better rim tape than others that are really made for it?
I've never used anything else, so can't really give you an honest first hand comparison. In this particular video the weakest link was the valves. I'm now running new wider carbon rims (as can be seen in another video on my channel) with proprietary valves. Still using gorilla tape and zero issues.
@@stephenjlr i just bought some 1" gorilla tape, and it worked great. Ty!
@TJ Thunder thanks! I recently had to retape, and the gorilla tape came off easily on the wtb i23 rim--it left little to no residue.
Cant screw valve on to rim, dont do it this way, go buy the right valve.
What he said
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You have no nut holding the schrader valve in, so you push down to inflate it and the valve pushes in, crappy idea !
Just need to be delicate Mr T! You're most definitely right though. This works much much better if you've got thread all the way down the valve stem.
and I thought that Brazilians were cow hands, not even to buy a valve, first world neh kkkkkkkkkkkk
Terrible sound vibration on your mic, painful to listen to.
i just use an inner tube, put tyre on one side of wheel feed inner tube into tyre put other side of tyre onto wheel inflate off you go no messing with all that sealant shit and tape
And then deal with the flats.