In the teyvat chapter preview, Dain said that "In the city of scholars there is a push for folly, yet the God of Wisdom makes no argument against it." This gave an impression that Nahida did not care. But in reality, she physically couldn't intervene. This made me realize that everything Dain said in that video is not 100% what they seemed. The things he said were in his perspective, not the absolute truth. This makes it more fun to speculate ehhe
I was talking about this on Twitter with a couple people too. Like, in the same trailer, Dain said the Geo archon was mercilessly "slaughtered," when in reality, all he did was retire and not tell anybody, lol.
It can also be interpreted that Nahida literally can't make an argument against it, because no one would care, or no one can hear her. She's basically powerless to do anything.
This makes me curious about the Snezhnaya chapter, because Tsaritsa is an Archon with "no love left for her people, nor do they have any left for her" (which also seems to suggest that her ideology was Love), yet her Harbingers are content with serving her and she also seems to really care about them. Childe even calls her a gentle soul. Could also be a misinterpretation from Dain or maybe she really doesn't care about anything besides her goal of "burning away the old world".
In the Mondstadt part he says "what is freedom if demanded of you by a god" but Venti feels the same way about it. He says that almost word for word to Dvalin. So yeah, Dein definitely is speaking from his own scewed perspective. I think, when he and our sibling went around Teyvat, they saw the problems in each land and didn't actually speak to the archons themselves. Meanwhile, we are getting to know the archons and we're seeing that, so far, not one of them is okay with what happened at Khaenri'ah for one reason or another. They have iffy ties with Celestia at best.
When the sage woke up, he was sitting in a cage He just had a drea...He dreamed it was their doomsday In the dream, the knight of flowers and his retainers found them. "Oh sages, we've finally found you. We can't wait to meet you" The Festival began, and every single travellers smiled as they gathered around them Finally, the sages we're brought to the guillotine, and travellers waved goodbye When the sage woke up, hewas sitting in a cage He just had a dream... He dreamed it was their doomsday ...and I say, it's not a dream
@@thanhnguyenduc2867 Naa, put them in a samsara loop of their execution day, with the day ending in the Guillotines. Only for it to restart again the next day. i think that's a fair punishment for them.
I like how they bring to light that Nahida's life is basically a literal SAMSARA. Every day, she wakes up in the same place and loses hope every single day.
I feel that the sages already know who Nahida is but the sages only value wisdom, not the archon herself. Therefore the moment rukkadevata lost her wisdom they immediately abandoned and locked her up
To be more accurate, they seek any kind of wisdom that can benefit them. If they can't obtain it, then whatever the occasion, or whoever possess that wisdom, is useless for the sages.
Those two scholars in ACT 4 basically confirmed that. They said that the sages were happy to have found Nahida at first, but once they found out that she has the same knowledge as a normal human child, they were disheartened about it. And hence why they stopped worshiping her over the years
exactly. the sages weren’t disappointed at the fact nahida had the appearance of a child, they were disappointed at the fact that when she was born, she had the intelligence/knowledge of a child. they literally imprisoned a clueless and helpless child. if you look at nahids’s face when the sages are dragging her away you can see how confused she is- she doesn’t understand what’s going on & why she’s being locked away.
So it's official then: In Mondstadt we're the Honorary Knight. In Liyue we're the Hero (they didn't give us a moniker did they?). In Inazuma we're the Captain of The Swordfish II. In Sumeru we're part of The Knights of Flowers. Update: Now that the patch is out, I can confirm that I was mistaken. In Sumeru, we're the First Sage of Buer, which is waay cooler imo, lol
I've never been this enraged since what happened in Watatsumi Island... And eventhough I've read multiple times how the Akademiya treated Nahida, seeing it freakin' animated filled me with so much RAGE... The video is literally freakin' child abuse (you'll even hear chains dragged on the background)... And yes, "flower carriage" = freakin' PRISON... And the Sumeru script translation DID NOT help at all : "The flower carriage rocked. Nahida opened her eyes. Said she just dreamed a dream, dreamed of the day that she was born. Dreamed of the day that the sages found her." "Alas but where had Lord Rukkhadevata gone to? We all eager to meet her once again." "Realizing the lord had perished around her, they gathered. To tears they were dashed." "In the end, Nahida was locked in by the devout. In the end, to no one could Nahida reach out."
Considering that Nahida doesn't have much "life experiences" and only lived for 500 years, she's considerably wise considering she was able to mentor and lead the Traveler to solving the Sabzerus Festival samsara. Imagine how she would compare to the other Archons like Morax if her growth during the 500 years was not stunted, perhaps the wisest amongst them all. A lot of people who don't pay attention to the lore often forget that Morax was not very wise during the Archon War and was an Adepti that relied on brute strength to solve problems. In fact, he even failed to properly plan his "retirement fund" because he primarily acts based on his experiences and the idea of "keeping mora" was completely out of his line of thought. He's basically the Incredible Hulk among the Archons and only became Professor Hulk after 6000+ years of life experiences.
yeah, Venti did mention Morax as "muscle-head" and "brute-forcing-his-way archon". iirc, Morax started to change sometime after his encounter with Guizhong.
@@HenSt-gz7qj He still wasn't as "wise" when Guizhong passed away, as he still has not been able to open Guizhong's stone dumbbell. A common joke is that his Elemental Burst is Guizhong's stone dumbbell, which he repeatedly hurls to the ground in an attempt to brute-force open it.
This teaser got me to tear up. Especially that "Happy Birthday Nahida". Because she's depicted really like a child who loves their birthday and be happy in their birthday parties with people around her. But in reality she's been alone with only having contact outside through the akasha. They even ruined her birthday in the archon quest! I'm excited for Nahida's story quests, I hope she's gets the birthday she wants or we tour her around Sumeru with people acknowledging her as their archon.
I was BAWLING in the first bit bc of seeing traveler and everyone I was like yes yay we gonna save the precious lil baby we gonna protect her AND THEN 2 SECONDS LATER it was just pure rage 👏
They lock her up for so long that most people thought Lesser Lord Kusanali is a myth, you can tell how surprised both Thighnari and Cyno was when they learn that she ACTUALLY existed lol.
This makes me realize that everything Dain saw or prophesied in his trailer was from a darker, more skewed and twisted perspective of what was really happening. He’s speaking from an outsiders perspective, someone who only saw the surface level of what’s going on, but never bothering to dig deeper. He seems to be against all forms of authority, and that may set up the reason we’ll be fighting against him in the future. Our sibling and Dain believe that when we reach the end of our journey, we’ll see what they saw. Our sibling, a dark world in need of being reset. Dain, a world that has no need for Archons. But for us, we’ll have seen a world that deserves a chance to survive, and that the Archons are not as bad as they seem. Thus, in the end, we’ll be fighting Dain AND our sibling, challenging their perspectives, and once that’s settled, we may even face the ones truly pulling the strings behind everything, the one seeming to be guiding our “fate.”
10:52 When Morax "died", Liyue stepped up in honor of his service for the past thousands of years. When Rukkhadehvata died, Sumeru would straight up deny anyone who replaced her. I wonder if it's because of their leadership or because of their people. If Morax was in charge of Sumeru, would things still be the same? Because I remember him once talking about the future Geo Archon and that the people will have to accept their leadership or something.
I wonder that myself. I think it was because Sumeru values rationality and wisdom. But that rationality can take many different forms depending on context. In their rationality, they only considered Rukkhadehvata their Archon. So when she died, they kept to this rationale to an extreme because Nahida wasn’t Rukkhadehvata.
The diffrence is morax died without a successor. If the dendro archon had no replacement either, then sumeru would have no choice but to make a system without her. Liyue had to figure how to live in a world post Rex lapis. It was made easier since ge only directs them once a century.
I think it really shows the difference in the countries’ values. For Liyue, the adepti and Qixing value contracts, so they choose to uphold their contract with Morax and protect Liyue in his stead. In Sumeru, the sages value wisdom and rationality, so they see Nahida lacking the wisdom of their former god and thus reject her, but still use her gnosis because, in their eyes, it is the most rational choice. Why wait for her to grow and learn when you can just go straight to your goal and exploit her? The fact that Nahida is as willing to help her people as she is despite what the sages did to her shows just how kind of a god they fortunately got. You compare her to Ei, who also experienced great hardship and chose to lock herself away, and you kind of see a glimpse of the kind of road Nahida could have gone down. She has every reason to turn her back on a country who turned their backs on her, but she still tries her hardest to help them in her own ways, despite rarely getting credit for her deeds. She’s the tiniest archon, but she has the biggest heart of them all. 😢❤
The sages in Sumeru only care about wisdom. I think that they only care for Rukkha because of her wisdom, and not because she's Rukkha. Pretty sure that if Rukkha had survived, and kept her original adult form, yet lost her memories, the sages would still not approve. Her 'death' is seen in a metaphoric sense rather than a literal one by the sages. To them, no memories = no wisdom = a god that is useless to them.
Still surprised that Nahida's birthday is on the same day of this channel was created🤯 Also kind of insane if you think that Arnold the LORE guy and Nahida the god of WISDOM. It just keep coming dude. THE DOTS!! IT'S ALL CONNECTED
I love the contrast between this and the Raiden Shogun's. Both are two of the saddest teasers, yet Raiden shows the sadness without dialogue from her at all, while Nahida's shows it with repeated variations of dialogue with changes in tone. Not to mention both of their EN VA's are very good with expression and tonal changes And I think, like you said, that the sages know that she's Rukkha, but don't care about her because she lost her memories. They prioritise wisdom. If she had retained her form, but still lost her memories, they would still say she was 'dead' because she lost her memories.
well aranara's grow by gaining experience and knowledge, so rukkadevatta/nahida's body probably works the same. it's like how people who go through a period of hunger has their growth stunted
Sorry for the long text, but i'm kinda just sorting my thoughts. 1) I noticed a LOT of similarities between the aranara and the dendro archon. I know she made them or whatever, but I feel like she might have taken a LOT of inspiration from herself. If that is so, then some interesting possibilities make sense. - the aranara use memories to gain power. We have seen 1 lose most all their memories to perform the great task of regrowing that protective tree. This could mean 2 things if it is true about the dendro archon as well. 1) the dendro archon might have used all her memories in the battle 500 years ago. 2) if the academia are taking her dreams and stuff, then they are stunting her growth even more by denying her the chance to stock up on memories for power. - aranara have said that they basically do not die. They just become a seed. Which then sprouts a new aranara without any of their previous memories once they get cared for when it is safe. What if, this is what happened to the greater lord that then made the lesser lord? - we can also see in the happy birthday trailer, at the last wake up, she is in an orb that looks a lot like the protective orb we've seen saving someone else from the decay. This might even mean she can use the same sorts of powers. 2) I think a good way to sum this all up would be to let kusanali live with the aranara. They would care for her, protect her, and give her the wisdom and guidance she needs. She has enough knowledge of human interaction to manage that herself. However, the aranara have shown that they have a wealth of wisdom (though they lack the human interaction experience for us to understand it most times). This would likely be a happy ending for her, where she can watch over her people and grow as she needs/wants to. 3) I think the irmansol tree (or whatever it's spelled as) might be doomed. However, we have seen a process of how to have a tree of power give us a seed so we may grow a new one (the last one was to banish the corruption). We could possibly do this with the irm tree. This might sever the connection to the akasha terminal, but I think severing that connection is exactly what is needed for the academia. 4) On the topic of severing the connection to the akasha terminal. I think the current academia have succumbed to the "algorythm." What the people of the academia are experiencing is very representative of us irl who fall into a bubble due to algorithmic suggestions. They are getting force fed topics that are deemed "appropriate," and denied knowledge that is deemed "unimportant" or "irrelevant." This is making them all have blinders to anything not in their specific field of study. So, disconnecting from the internet would actually help them a lot. Especially so if the akasha terminals become just communication tools to reach experts of different fields instead of having to request info access.
Im so happy to see your strong reaction, I literally bawled my eyes out seeing the trailer. Even watching it again now through your reaction, my heart aches. The storytelling really is something fierce.
At 04:28 I thought the guy was the grand sage however...that happened, like 500 years ago. He does look much older but...he can't have stayed alive all that time...can he?
fun fact: in all the other languages (cn, jp, kr) nahida refers herself in 3rd person except english trailer. it’s interesting to me why they change it… especially when in the end she still says “happy birthday, nahida” and not “happy birthday to me” 🧐
@@kaylakaterinazosa3729 maybe but i’m still curious why they change all others lines… eng translation changes a lot of meanings and ngl it bothers me sometimes that we might get some misunderstandings because of that
@@idonthaveaname11 in this video yeah, sure. i'm talking about the game in general. these are mostly small things, but there are more of them with each update that's all
The main reason for it being 3rd person (in other languages anyway) is that it's a poetic description of the Sabzeruz festival, meant to highlight what happens from an observer's perspective. Also, a direct translation of Nahida's looping speech in CN/JP/KR lines up to some extent with the Sumerian text on the 3rd loop, making the text the archived truth and Nahida's speech a "politically correct" interpretation. As for why 1st person for EN...referring to yourself in 3rd person is a practice used by even "normal" people in Chinese, Japanese, and Korean entertainment but to my knowledge, typically not in western media. In most cases, 3rd person self-reference is reserved for the crazy, and a lot of friends I know take issue with Paimon's speech style for that reason (then again, she's portrayed as pretty dumb so it sorta works). I agree, not only does it destroy the connection with the 3rd loop text, the change from 3rd person to 1st changes the point of the speech and makes for a misunderstanding (such as Nahida's speech being a narration, not a personal experience)
I know she’s the Archon, but I think it would be interesting if Cyno was her bodyguard and Al-Haitham was her teacher/field trip guide. It’d be cool if Cyno, Al-Haitham, and Nahida went on a trip all across Sumeru to show Nahida her nation with her *own* eyes instead of seeing it through other people’s Akasha system.
Imo, the first loop was how it should’ve been with the people of Sumeru around her, the second loop was how she wanted it to be with her friends on her birthday, the third loop was how it really went with the sages, and the final scene was reality, and how it’s been for the last 500 years I couldn’t watch this live but the reaction was just as amazing!! Edit: I just noticed that while the sages were pulling Nahida away, you can hear chains in the background
Nahida actually go out not physically but like in dream like state using akasha terminal like she talked to dunyazard giving her reason/inspiration to live while having Eleazar sickness she probaby talk/give advice on some people on sumeru who probably the ones who believed/accepted in kusanali as the new dendro archon like nilou and theatre group its just they cant see her...just a voice she probably use Katheryne to communicate to people too the only time that Nahida conciousness also got trapped/cant go out anymore is because of Dotore
Gotta love how the Sages are so deep in denial of their god's existence that they're willing to trust the envoys of a foreign power trying to create a god on their dime instead of giving their own a chance. I'm going to enjoy dismantling their little project when the time comes. =D
18:12 i saw someone theorise that alhaitham could be the reincarnation of the scarlet king and cyno could be the priest(?)/disciple from the cutscene for act 4, so maybe the goddess of flowers' reincarnation is nilou😵💫 btw don't take this theory too seriously cause it's very likely to be wrong but it's fun thinking of reincarnation
I really can’t tell if the Grand Sage in the teaser is the same grand sage as nowadays, because either the sage we see now is a copy, similar to how Dottore has multiple versions of himself, or it’s a different guy, since Nahida is 500 years old, and it’s pretty much confirmed that she was trapped once she became the Archon (and yes I know she’s technically always been the archon since her and Rukkhadevata are the same person), there is no way a mortal has been alive for 500 years, unless there’s other methods such as the clone theory I mentioned
The conclusion of archon quest is gonna be so satisfying. Just like how the ending cutscene of inazuma arc showed what happened after, they're gonna show the aftermath of everything and there's gonna be a narrated scene where Nahida says something like, "Oh and the sages? They were given a taste of their own medicine" and it'll show Cyno banishing them into the desert or something
I'm about to watch the Cyno Story Quest video but it mentioned this teaser; more than a year later from this video btw wow but yeah, I'm just rewatching this! and hey, saw my comment from a year ago xD I'm feeling tears in my eyes. Leave me alooone T-T Releasing this exactly on Nahida's birthday is so damn cool and big-brained.
One thing I was thinking about was, we have been saying that only Venti and Zhongli are the original Archons from the Archon War but what if we're wrong? Ei was not the Archon but she rulled alongside Makoto, Kusanali is just a weaker version of the original Archon of Sumeru, Rhukkadevatta. What if the next nations have similar things.
Regarding Dottore fucking the sages over. I had this thought that maybe he's also, in a way, trying to provoke Celestia like "ayooo we made a god HA!" Kinda thing
I think this is the first time I've seen the community thinking in unison. Whether or not we're pulling for Nahida, every soul is thinking, "They're dead. The Sages, the Balladeer, they're all dead!"
And I really hope that Nahida will somehow regain memory of her prior Rukkhadevata's self (maybe from Archon's canned knowledge?), or at least will meet Aranaras. I would like to see their reaction to her.
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp Why is it? It hurt me to hear Nahida blaming herself for her helplessness and admiring Rukkhadevata's achievements. Well, or if she does not return her memory, then at least she would know that she is Rukkhadevata.
Hoyoverse really did make some remarkable evolution in teasers. Sumeru arc is one of the best rise from the bottom arc. I have examined the lore of Enkanomiya and the Chasm, but the Sumeru lore is just, remarkable and fine.
But are we sure, that sages do not know who Nahida really is ? Remember the line - "Losing one's memory is no different from losing one's life. It is like death amidst darkness eternal." - Kitsune Saiguu I think Tignari is more like - There is a forest to save, if you do not care helping me in that, then I do not care and have no time for your other researches. Also Tignari really knows more what is going on in Akademia, than he tell us about.
That sage cannot be Azar, That event happened 500 years ago. I think they just made them visually similar so we understand immidiately who these people are.
I can imagine Nahida wobbling around like a baby, trying to walk again after 500 years being kept floating in that green bubble thing. it would be both sad and funny.
Man, this has got to be the cruelest joke Hoyoverse has done for a character. Release a teaser video for a character who’s been trapped since brith’s birthday the same date as the video.
i have 2 thoughts. The first thought is that the first two Nahida was in a dream samsara cycle. After the samsara cycle, we can witness that there are four scenes. Chapters 1,2,3,4 of sumeru chapter. When Nahida experiences the third, this is what it actually appened and not the samsara
Dear Mihoyo, Let us talk to the sages. We just wanna have a very violent conversation with them. Or let us burn Akademyia to the ground. We'll accept either. Signed, The fan base.
The Sages are power hungry, but for knowledge and wisdom, they never cared about their god, they cared about her wisdom, only that. Also, Nahida is very smart, she have access to the Akasha so she have access to everyone's knowledge, the thing is, she is smart, but she just lacks social skills
I watched this and I saw what was coming by the second cycle of Nahida's Samsara and when you said "I hope this isn't a Samsara thing", I was all, "Oh, crap". Hoyoverse has been doing the Samsara thing since Honkai cuz the first Open World story was called Sakura Samsara
Okay- Imma comment this before I prepare food while watching but holy shit, the teaser released when I was at a event (something all happy and stuff) but then almost started crying when I watched it right then and there 🤣🤣 Mygosh I can't- I feel like crying every time I remember this teaser 🙂😭
rukhadevatta regress into a child to help king deshret's problem which i assumed happened in sumeru dessert... and the sages found nahida in the outskirt of kaenriah... so is nahida really rukhadevatta? And whos the small archon sitting in sumeru's statue of the seven?
I'm really hoping for more Lisa lore. They will probably overthrow/replace the sages so it is possible that they will nominate Lisa as the new head sage.
First: a dream Second: a hope Third: an experience fourth: a reality OR (though they both kinda work) First: what she dreamed Second: what she hoped Third: what really happened on that day Fourth: whats currently happening on said day
Her teaser was the best for me because her birthday is the same as mine and what the Sages did to Nahida, it made me more want to pull for her. I hope there's a scene where we kick the sht out of the Sages
My best guess is that Dottore IS or is related to the Grand Sage in actuality. Thinking back on Columbina's comments saying he is Younger these days and that other parts of him are doing an experiment and such, it wouldn't be far fetched to think there are multiple of him at different times/ages. I could see someone like him playing this kind of game for hundred's of years after Khaen'riah, losing faith in ''wisdom'' and embracing cold hard knowledge/truths instead via the Cryo Archon.
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In the teyvat chapter preview, Dain said that "In the city of scholars there is a push for folly, yet the God of Wisdom makes no argument against it." This gave an impression that Nahida did not care. But in reality, she physically couldn't intervene. This made me realize that everything Dain said in that video is not 100% what they seemed. The things he said were in his perspective, not the absolute truth. This makes it more fun to speculate ehhe
I was talking about this on Twitter with a couple people too. Like, in the same trailer, Dain said the Geo archon was mercilessly "slaughtered," when in reality, all he did was retire and not tell anybody, lol.
It can also be interpreted that Nahida literally can't make an argument against it, because no one would care, or no one can hear her. She's basically powerless to do anything.
This makes me curious about the Snezhnaya chapter, because Tsaritsa is an Archon with "no love left for her people, nor do they have any left for her" (which also seems to suggest that her ideology was Love), yet her Harbingers are content with serving her and she also seems to really care about them. Childe even calls her a gentle soul.
Could also be a misinterpretation from Dain or maybe she really doesn't care about anything besides her goal of "burning away the old world".
@@ChamChamRealSmooth Childe did mentioned that the tsaritsa was too gentle that she has no other choice but to hardened herself
In the Mondstadt part he says "what is freedom if demanded of you by a god" but Venti feels the same way about it. He says that almost word for word to Dvalin. So yeah, Dein definitely is speaking from his own scewed perspective. I think, when he and our sibling went around Teyvat, they saw the problems in each land and didn't actually speak to the archons themselves. Meanwhile, we are getting to know the archons and we're seeing that, so far, not one of them is okay with what happened at Khaenri'ah for one reason or another. They have iffy ties with Celestia at best.
the presentation of this teaser is probably the best compared to all teaser yet
They really had us in the first half XD
The music is great too
Nope it’s not. Also y’all say that every time a new teaser comes out☠️🤡
@@Zombina638 because they’re good
@@blink_7179 read then talk.
"Crush the sages and rescue our god... That is our ultimate goal" - Pretty Jackal boi
Remember... NO SAGES!
Cyno will definitely make those bastards pay the price
NSN (No Sages November)!!! ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
11:06 FACTS I fully agree with "if your god isn't wise, help her become the god that you want her to be"
They're so entitled its ridiculous
Petition to put the sages in the spiral abyss.
I would beat them up every day
put them on floor 13 as challengers.
Not only in spiral abyss, i hope they give them a health bar in the overworld as well
I gonna run spiral abyss for the first time lol, hopefully its at lower lvl abyss.
Here here
When the sage woke up, he was sitting in a cage
He just had a drea...He dreamed it was their doomsday
In the dream, the knight of flowers and his retainers found them.
"Oh sages, we've finally found you. We can't wait to meet you"
The Festival began, and every single travellers smiled as they gathered around them
Finally, the sages we're brought to the guillotine, and travellers waved goodbye
When the sage woke up, hewas sitting in a cage
He just had a dream... He dreamed it was their doomsday
...and I say, it's not a dream
Akademiya sage's POV be like :
This comment is so underrated
@@thanhnguyenduc2867 Naa, put them in a samsara loop of their execution day, with the day ending in the Guillotines. Only for it to restart again the next day. i think that's a fair punishment for them.
Meet? I think you should switch that to BEAT
would love them on the chopping board... but in an endless loop.
I like how they bring to light that Nahida's life is basically a literal SAMSARA. Every day, she wakes up in the same place and loses hope every single day.
Probably why she could empathise with Dunyarzard so much
I feel that the sages already know who Nahida is but the sages only value wisdom, not the archon herself. Therefore the moment rukkadevata lost her wisdom they immediately abandoned and locked her up
That's true. The sages doesn't worship any god, they worship wisdom itself.
To be more accurate, they seek any kind of wisdom that can benefit them. If they can't obtain it, then whatever the occasion, or whoever possess that wisdom, is useless for the sages.
Those two scholars in ACT 4 basically confirmed that. They said that the sages were happy to have found Nahida at first, but once they found out that she has the same knowledge as a normal human child, they were disheartened about it. And hence why they stopped worshiping her over the years
exactly. the sages weren’t disappointed at the fact nahida had the appearance of a child, they were disappointed at the fact that when she was born, she had the intelligence/knowledge of a child. they literally imprisoned a clueless and helpless child. if you look at nahids’s face when the sages are dragging her away you can see how confused she is- she doesn’t understand what’s going on & why she’s being locked away.
This teaser is "They got us in the first half not gonna lie" and "Cry, try not to cry, cry a lot" meme combined
Even after one year it still give me chills
So it's official then:
In Mondstadt we're the Honorary Knight.
In Liyue we're the Hero (they didn't give us a moniker did they?).
In Inazuma we're the Captain of The Swordfish II.
In Sumeru we're part of The Knights of Flowers.
Update: Now that the patch is out, I can confirm that I was mistaken.
In Sumeru, we're the First Sage of Buer, which is waay cooler imo, lol
I've never been this enraged since what happened in Watatsumi Island... And eventhough I've read multiple times how the Akademiya treated Nahida, seeing it freakin' animated filled me with so much RAGE... The video is literally freakin' child abuse (you'll even hear chains dragged on the background)... And yes, "flower carriage" = freakin' PRISON...
And the Sumeru script translation DID NOT help at all :
"The flower carriage rocked. Nahida opened her eyes. Said she just dreamed a dream, dreamed of the day that she was born. Dreamed of the day that the sages found her."
"Alas but where had Lord Rukkhadevata gone to? We all eager to meet her once again."
"Realizing the lord had perished around her, they gathered. To tears they were dashed."
"In the end, Nahida was locked in by the devout. In the end, to no one could Nahida reach out."
Sumeru sages is about to experience the community's burning reaction before the nerf
This almost looks like it could be song lyrics.
the fact that they released this on her actual birthday is still sending me
When I woke up, I was riding in a flower carriage…
I’d just had a dream… I dreamed it was my birthday
In the dream, the knight of flowers and his retainers found me.
oh archon, we've finally found you. the people can't wait to meet you.
The Sabzerus festival began and everyone smiled as they danced around me
Finally, I got back to the carriage, and waved goodbye
Considering that Nahida doesn't have much "life experiences" and only lived for 500 years, she's considerably wise considering she was able to mentor and lead the Traveler to solving the Sabzerus Festival samsara. Imagine how she would compare to the other Archons like Morax if her growth during the 500 years was not stunted, perhaps the wisest amongst them all.
A lot of people who don't pay attention to the lore often forget that Morax was not very wise during the Archon War and was an Adepti that relied on brute strength to solve problems. In fact, he even failed to properly plan his "retirement fund" because he primarily acts based on his experiences and the idea of "keeping mora" was completely out of his line of thought. He's basically the Incredible Hulk among the Archons and only became Professor Hulk after 6000+ years of life experiences.
yeah, Venti did mention Morax as "muscle-head" and "brute-forcing-his-way archon".
iirc, Morax started to change sometime after his encounter with Guizhong.
@@HenSt-gz7qj He still wasn't as "wise" when Guizhong passed away, as he still has not been able to open Guizhong's stone dumbbell. A common joke is that his Elemental Burst is Guizhong's stone dumbbell, which he repeatedly hurls to the ground in an attempt to brute-force open it.
That’s why Guizhong was the brains to his brawn🤣
This teaser got me to tear up. Especially that "Happy Birthday Nahida". Because she's depicted really like a child who loves their birthday and be happy in their birthday parties with people around her. But in reality she's been alone with only having contact outside through the akasha. They even ruined her birthday in the archon quest!
I'm excited for Nahida's story quests, I hope she's gets the birthday she wants or we tour her around Sumeru with people acknowledging her as their archon.
I was BAWLING in the first bit bc of seeing traveler and everyone I was like yes yay we gonna save the precious lil baby we gonna protect her
AND THEN 2 SECONDS LATER it was just pure rage 👏
They lock her up for so long that most people thought Lesser Lord Kusanali is a myth, you can tell how surprised both Thighnari and Cyno was when they learn that she ACTUALLY existed lol.
They knew about her existence, they’re just surprised because she has done more than they thought
they also didn't know that she was locked up on top of Akademiya.
Nahida is the only one who genuinely laughs at Cyno's joke.
He'll definitely be his best bodyguard.
Couldn't wait to see your reaction! And Nahida's teaser was just... wow. The best character teaser for me so far
I can't wait for the hydro, pyro and cryo archon's teasers but before that, i can't wait for nahida's demo music
@@Unforgiving_Eye, same. Archon teasers are on another level, and the music is going to be a banger as always
This makes me realize that everything Dain saw or prophesied in his trailer was from a darker, more skewed and twisted perspective of what was really happening.
He’s speaking from an outsiders perspective, someone who only saw the surface level of what’s going on, but never bothering to dig deeper. He seems to be against all forms of authority, and that may set up the reason we’ll be fighting against him in the future.
Our sibling and Dain believe that when we reach the end of our journey, we’ll see what they saw. Our sibling, a dark world in need of being reset. Dain, a world that has no need for Archons. But for us, we’ll have seen a world that deserves a chance to survive, and that the Archons are not as bad as they seem. Thus, in the end, we’ll be fighting Dain AND our sibling, challenging their perspectives, and once that’s settled, we may even face the ones truly pulling the strings behind everything, the one seeming to be guiding our “fate.”
10:52
When Morax "died", Liyue stepped up in honor of his service for the past thousands of years.
When Rukkhadehvata died, Sumeru would straight up deny anyone who replaced her.
I wonder if it's because of their leadership or because of their people. If Morax was in charge of Sumeru, would things still be the same? Because I remember him once talking about the future Geo Archon and that the people will have to accept their leadership or something.
I wonder that myself. I think it was because Sumeru values rationality and wisdom. But that rationality can take many different forms depending on context. In their rationality, they only considered Rukkhadehvata their Archon. So when she died, they kept to this rationale to an extreme because Nahida wasn’t Rukkhadehvata.
The diffrence is morax died without a successor. If the dendro archon had no replacement either, then sumeru would have no choice but to make a system without her. Liyue had to figure how to live in a world post Rex lapis. It was made easier since ge only directs them once a century.
I think it really shows the difference in the countries’ values. For Liyue, the adepti and Qixing value contracts, so they choose to uphold their contract with Morax and protect Liyue in his stead. In Sumeru, the sages value wisdom and rationality, so they see Nahida lacking the wisdom of their former god and thus reject her, but still use her gnosis because, in their eyes, it is the most rational choice. Why wait for her to grow and learn when you can just go straight to your goal and exploit her?
The fact that Nahida is as willing to help her people as she is despite what the sages did to her shows just how kind of a god they fortunately got. You compare her to Ei, who also experienced great hardship and chose to lock herself away, and you kind of see a glimpse of the kind of road Nahida could have gone down. She has every reason to turn her back on a country who turned their backs on her, but she still tries her hardest to help them in her own ways, despite rarely getting credit for her deeds. She’s the tiniest archon, but she has the biggest heart of them all. 😢❤
The sages in Sumeru only care about wisdom. I think that they only care for Rukkha because of her wisdom, and not because she's Rukkha. Pretty sure that if Rukkha had survived, and kept her original adult form, yet lost her memories, the sages would still not approve. Her 'death' is seen in a metaphoric sense rather than a literal one by the sages. To them, no memories = no wisdom = a god that is useless to them.
Liyue has strong leadership, led by Ninguang and the Qixing. Sumeru is led by asshats with a one dimensional focus on knowledge.
Still surprised that Nahida's birthday is on the same day of this channel was created🤯
Also kind of insane if you think that Arnold the LORE guy and Nahida the god of WISDOM. It just keep coming dude.
THE DOTS!! IT'S ALL CONNECTED
It's all connected. Arnold is the primordial one I'm calling it right now 😂
Ask-me-for-directions Arnold simping over Mona
I love the contrast between this and the Raiden Shogun's. Both are two of the saddest teasers, yet Raiden shows the sadness without dialogue from her at all, while Nahida's shows it with repeated variations of dialogue with changes in tone. Not to mention both of their EN VA's are very good with expression and tonal changes
And I think, like you said, that the sages know that she's Rukkha, but don't care about her because she lost her memories. They prioritise wisdom. If she had retained her form, but still lost her memories, they would still say she was 'dead' because she lost her memories.
I don't know how much i have watched the trailer, but the sad and depression still got me
Love your reaction as usual! Can’t wait for 3.2 and how we rescue our baby archon 😭 I really hope the sages get what the deserve.
well aranara's grow by gaining experience and knowledge, so rukkadevatta/nahida's body probably works the same. it's like how people who go through a period of hunger has their growth stunted
I agree haha, she probably lost all her power when she was at the Khaenrian war and thats why she shrunk that much
What I learned from yesterday's stream: Never trust the monocle
Sorry for the long text, but i'm kinda just sorting my thoughts.
1) I noticed a LOT of similarities between the aranara and the dendro archon. I know she made them or whatever, but I feel like she might have taken a LOT of inspiration from herself. If that is so, then some interesting possibilities make sense.
- the aranara use memories to gain power. We have seen 1 lose most all their memories to perform the great task of regrowing that protective tree. This could mean 2 things if it is true about the dendro archon as well. 1) the dendro archon might have used all her memories in the battle 500 years ago. 2) if the academia are taking her dreams and stuff, then they are stunting her growth even more by denying her the chance to stock up on memories for power.
- aranara have said that they basically do not die. They just become a seed. Which then sprouts a new aranara without any of their previous memories once they get cared for when it is safe. What if, this is what happened to the greater lord that then made the lesser lord?
- we can also see in the happy birthday trailer, at the last wake up, she is in an orb that looks a lot like the protective orb we've seen saving someone else from the decay. This might even mean she can use the same sorts of powers.
2) I think a good way to sum this all up would be to let kusanali live with the aranara. They would care for her, protect her, and give her the wisdom and guidance she needs. She has enough knowledge of human interaction to manage that herself. However, the aranara have shown that they have a wealth of wisdom (though they lack the human interaction experience for us to understand it most times). This would likely be a happy ending for her, where she can watch over her people and grow as she needs/wants to.
3) I think the irmansol tree (or whatever it's spelled as) might be doomed. However, we have seen a process of how to have a tree of power give us a seed so we may grow a new one (the last one was to banish the corruption). We could possibly do this with the irm tree. This might sever the connection to the akasha terminal, but I think severing that connection is exactly what is needed for the academia.
4) On the topic of severing the connection to the akasha terminal. I think the current academia have succumbed to the "algorythm." What the people of the academia are experiencing is very representative of us irl who fall into a bubble due to algorithmic suggestions. They are getting force fed topics that are deemed "appropriate," and denied knowledge that is deemed "unimportant" or "irrelevant." This is making them all have blinders to anything not in their specific field of study. So, disconnecting from the internet would actually help them a lot. Especially so if the akasha terminals become just communication tools to reach experts of different fields instead of having to request info access.
I've watched many people reacting on this teaser, but your reaction is the best one so far
I’m ready to cry again
Edit: I WASNT READY TO CRY
Im so happy to see your strong reaction, I literally bawled my eyes out seeing the trailer. Even watching it again now through your reaction, my heart aches. The storytelling really is something fierce.
At 04:28 I thought the guy was the grand sage however...that happened, like 500 years ago. He does look much older but...he can't have stayed alive all that time...can he?
4:28 Grand Sage Azar, May God forgive you, BUT WE WON'T! **proceeds to load the sawed-off shotgun**
Also prepares a very small tactical nuke that has the same destructive power as the original one. We will detonate it inside his mouth 💀
fun fact: in all the other languages (cn, jp, kr) nahida refers herself in 3rd person except english trailer. it’s interesting to me why they change it… especially when in the end she still says “happy birthday, nahida” and not “happy birthday to me” 🧐
I feel like its more like "I wish someone would say this to me but Im the only one who can say it to myself: Happy Birthday Nahida"
@@kaylakaterinazosa3729 maybe but i’m still curious why they change all others lines… eng translation changes a lot of meanings and ngl it bothers me sometimes that we might get some misunderstandings because of that
@@pynchiepie Nah her using 1st or 3rd person doesn't change the meaning at all.
@@idonthaveaname11 in this video yeah, sure. i'm talking about the game in general. these are mostly small things, but there are more of them with each update that's all
The main reason for it being 3rd person (in other languages anyway) is that it's a poetic description of the Sabzeruz festival, meant to highlight what happens from an observer's perspective. Also, a direct translation of Nahida's looping speech in CN/JP/KR lines up to some extent with the Sumerian text on the 3rd loop, making the text the archived truth and Nahida's speech a "politically correct" interpretation.
As for why 1st person for EN...referring to yourself in 3rd person is a practice used by even "normal" people in Chinese, Japanese, and Korean entertainment but to my knowledge, typically not in western media. In most cases, 3rd person self-reference is reserved for the crazy, and a lot of friends I know take issue with Paimon's speech style for that reason (then again, she's portrayed as pretty dumb so it sorta works).
I agree, not only does it destroy the connection with the 3rd loop text, the change from 3rd person to 1st changes the point of the speech and makes for a misunderstanding (such as Nahida's speech being a narration, not a personal experience)
When 3 minutes video became 20 minutes video ur know its good
Well, it's the same with the harbinger trailer, 4 minutes trailer becomes a banger half an hour video xD
We are bringing Spark Knight to that damn Akademiya.
Ain't nobody stopping us
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
I know she’s the Archon, but I think it would be interesting if Cyno was her bodyguard and Al-Haitham was her teacher/field trip guide. It’d be cool if Cyno, Al-Haitham, and Nahida went on a trip all across Sumeru to show Nahida her nation with her *own* eyes instead of seeing it through other people’s Akasha system.
I just realised that Nahida shares the same birthday as mine. Eula's was 2 days before and kazuha's was 2 days after my bday. kinda cool
Summon the Klee, Jean will never have to know
this is what happened when honkai script writer joined the genshin team. i wouldnt surprised if some of the main characters r dead later on.
2:20
My thoughts exactly. I wasn't ready.
Imo, the first loop was how it should’ve been with the people of Sumeru around her, the second loop was how she wanted it to be with her friends on her birthday, the third loop was how it really went with the sages, and the final scene was reality, and how it’s been for the last 500 years
I couldn’t watch this live but the reaction was just as amazing!!
Edit: I just noticed that while the sages were pulling Nahida away, you can hear chains in the background
Nahida actually go out not physically but like in dream like state using akasha terminal like she talked to dunyazard giving her reason/inspiration to live while having Eleazar sickness
she probaby talk/give advice on some people on sumeru who probably the ones who believed/accepted in kusanali as the new dendro archon like nilou and theatre group
its just they cant see her...just a voice
she probably use Katheryne to communicate to people too
the only time that Nahida conciousness also got trapped/cant go out anymore is because of Dotore
Now she truly had a happy birthday 😢
Gotta love how the Sages are so deep in denial of their god's existence that they're willing to trust the envoys of a foreign power trying to create a god on their dime instead of giving their own a chance. I'm going to enjoy dismantling their little project when the time comes. =D
18:12 i saw someone theorise that alhaitham could be the reincarnation of the scarlet king and cyno could be the priest(?)/disciple from the cutscene for act 4, so maybe the goddess of flowers' reincarnation is nilou😵💫
btw don't take this theory too seriously cause it's very likely to be wrong but it's fun thinking of reincarnation
I really can’t tell if the Grand Sage in the teaser is the same grand sage as nowadays, because either the sage we see now is a copy, similar to how Dottore has multiple versions of himself, or it’s a different guy, since Nahida is 500 years old, and it’s pretty much confirmed that she was trapped once she became the Archon (and yes I know she’s technically always been the archon since her and Rukkhadevata are the same person), there is no way a mortal has been alive for 500 years, unless there’s other methods such as the clone theory I mentioned
And now, her second dream gonna be a reality soon 3:01 ... Hiks, I'm so happy for her 😭
ahhh I was waiting so badly for you to react to this
The conclusion of archon quest is gonna be so satisfying. Just like how the ending cutscene of inazuma arc showed what happened after, they're gonna show the aftermath of everything and there's gonna be a narrated scene where Nahida says something like, "Oh and the sages? They were given a taste of their own medicine" and it'll show Cyno banishing them into the desert or something
Thank you so much for sharing this. 👍
I'm about to watch the Cyno Story Quest video but it mentioned this teaser; more than a year later from this video btw wow but yeah, I'm just rewatching this! and hey, saw my comment from a year ago xD I'm feeling tears in my eyes. Leave me alooone T-T Releasing this exactly on Nahida's birthday is so damn cool and big-brained.
omg im finally early I CANT WAIT FOR HIS REACTION
One thing I was thinking about was, we have been saying that only Venti and Zhongli are the original Archons from the Archon War but what if we're wrong? Ei was not the Archon but she rulled alongside Makoto, Kusanali is just a weaker version of the original Archon of Sumeru, Rhukkadevatta. What if the next nations have similar things.
Yeah exactly! I really do think its the case, and Im excited to see how they reveal it to us later on for the other archons!
Regarding Dottore fucking the sages over. I had this thought that maybe he's also, in a way, trying to provoke Celestia like "ayooo we made a god HA!" Kinda thing
Ngl I nearly cried on both the trailer and the teaser. Nahida crying is just too much to handle 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I think this is the first time I've seen the community thinking in unison. Whether or not we're pulling for Nahida, every soul is thinking, "They're dead. The Sages, the Balladeer, they're all dead!"
And I really hope that Nahida will somehow regain memory of her prior Rukkhadevata's self (maybe from Archon's canned knowledge?), or at least will meet Aranaras. I would like to see their reaction to her.
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp Why is it? It hurt me to hear Nahida blaming herself for her helplessness and admiring Rukkhadevata's achievements. Well, or if she does not return her memory, then at least she would know that she is Rukkhadevata.
Hoyoverse really did make some remarkable evolution in teasers. Sumeru arc is one of the best rise from the bottom arc. I have examined the lore of Enkanomiya and the Chasm, but the Sumeru lore is just, remarkable and fine.
If the ruin golem is still active and can move around, imma take my chance and destroy the sages
But are we sure, that sages do not know who Nahida really is ?
Remember the line - "Losing one's memory is no different from losing one's life. It is like death amidst darkness eternal." - Kitsune Saiguu
I think Tignari is more like - There is a forest to save, if you do not care helping me in that, then I do not care and have no time for your other researches. Also Tignari really knows more what is going on in Akademia, than he tell us about.
2 more days, we are going in！
Just love how they used the samsara cycle and have the same lines be interpreted differently with all 3
How I wish MHYO opens an unlikely multiplayer domain to raid the Akademia once, and its filled with high level mobs.
"My name is Nahida Rukkhadevata Kusanali, nice to finally meet you Grand Sage Azar."
14:07 they probably are 1m years old seeing how they are stars.
That sage cannot be Azar, That event happened 500 years ago.
I think they just made them visually similar so we understand immidiately who these people are.
Keep watching the video. The discussion gets into that topic.
Mannn i remember that one guy rushing you to react on this, he just got roasted by all ahaha
Yayyyy u finally uploaded itttt
Time to give a seminar at the Akademiya. The topic? Before Sun and Moon.
I can imagine Nahida wobbling around like a baby, trying to walk again after 500 years being kept floating in that green bubble thing. it would be both sad and funny.
Man, this has got to be the cruelest joke Hoyoverse has done for a character.
Release a teaser video for a character who’s been trapped since brith’s birthday the same date as the video.
This was 500 years ago, so that grand sage that first brought her back and lock her up is long dead. The sages are all humans.
1st loop: What Nahida dreamed could've happened
2nd loop: What Nahida dreams to happen
3rd loop: What happened
After 3rd loop: What is happening
i have 2 thoughts.
The first thought is that the first two Nahida was in a dream samsara cycle. After the samsara cycle, we can witness that there are four scenes. Chapters 1,2,3,4 of sumeru chapter. When Nahida experiences the third, this is what it actually appened and not the samsara
Love ur reactions !!
Thank you! :)
@@MurderofBirdsImpact especially the omg's 😂
Remember, no sages.
*load shotgun*
Dear Mihoyo,
Let us talk to the sages. We just wanna have a very violent conversation with them. Or let us burn Akademyia to the ground. We'll accept either.
Signed,
The fan base.
I'm gonna do to the sages what Anakin did to the younglings.
I knew that MurderofBirds is an archon, now it's confirmed by Hoyoverse...
The “Snap back to reality” meme personified.
The Sages are power hungry, but for knowledge and wisdom, they never cared about their god, they cared about her wisdom, only that.
Also, Nahida is very smart, she have access to the Akasha so she have access to everyone's knowledge, the thing is, she is smart, but she just lacks social skills
"I will burn the Akademiya down before living among these sages"
I watched this and I saw what was coming by the second cycle of Nahida's Samsara and when you said "I hope this isn't a Samsara thing", I was all, "Oh, crap". Hoyoverse has been doing the Samsara thing since Honkai cuz the first Open World story was called Sakura Samsara
Okay- Imma comment this before I prepare food while watching but holy shit, the teaser released when I was at a event (something all happy and stuff) but then almost started crying when I watched it right then and there 🤣🤣 Mygosh I can't- I feel like crying every time I remember this teaser 🙂😭
I ALMOST CRIED AGAIN LMAOOO
rukhadevatta regress into a child to help king deshret's problem which i assumed happened in sumeru dessert... and the sages found nahida in the outskirt of kaenriah... so is nahida really rukhadevatta? And whos the small archon sitting in sumeru's statue of the seven?
We learned a lot about the Godess of flowers in the books ect
SHE'S SO CUTEEE I CAN'T💓💓💓
More like a dream inception than looping
I love Jester more now that he also hated the fucking Sages, BurntheSages
The debate club has an appointment with grand sage.
Such a good teaser
I'm really hoping for more Lisa lore. They will probably overthrow/replace the sages so it is possible that they will nominate Lisa as the new head sage.
Welcome back!
This was the kind of eternity Ei wanted is all im going to say, the sages the true gods of eternity👌😂😂
First: a dream
Second: a hope
Third: an experience
fourth: a reality
OR (though they both kinda work)
First: what she dreamed
Second: what she hoped
Third: what really happened on that day
Fourth: whats currently happening on said day
We are all traumatized by the Samsara, huh?
Her teaser was the best for me because her birthday is the same as mine and what the Sages did to Nahida, it made me more want to pull for her. I hope there's a scene where we kick the sht out of the Sages
My best guess is that Dottore IS or is related to the Grand Sage in actuality. Thinking back on Columbina's comments saying he is Younger these days and that other parts of him are doing an experiment and such, it wouldn't be far fetched to think there are multiple of him at different times/ages. I could see someone like him playing this kind of game for hundred's of years after Khaen'riah, losing faith in ''wisdom'' and embracing cold hard knowledge/truths instead via the Cryo Archon.