Making a MANUAL Clutch for the V8 RC Car - FINALLY!

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  • Опубліковано 30 кві 2023
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  • @budgetbiker7
    @budgetbiker7 Рік тому +626

    I think it would be really cool to see an fpv driving simulator for this. Hook the controls up to a steering wheel, gearshift, and pedals and then have a live feed so its like you're actually driving.

    • @lawerancelanham
      @lawerancelanham Рік тому +47

      Then hook it up to your PC sim controlling it with a wheel and pedals. And then if it had telemetry data for a motion rig... oh hell yes , Awesomeness 👌

    • @xestrix69
      @xestrix69 Рік тому +11

      every mans dream

    • @banjopaisley1021
      @banjopaisley1021 Рік тому +5

      It would be cool to see the cars being used.

    • @BrandonHall916
      @BrandonHall916 Рік тому +7

      Is this not the plan?

    • @RingingResonance
      @RingingResonance Рік тому +10

      Could go a step further with VR and a camera on a gimbal.

  • @carlosschagun6922
    @carlosschagun6922 Рік тому +256

    Hi JohnnyQ90.- Two thoughts: Wouldn't it be better to use a friction (and heat) resistant material for the clutch cone such as the one used in brake pads or clutch discs? Second, While engaging the clutch, you are applying axial thrust to the engine crankshaft.- Can the crankshaft bearings manage this..?? Regards, have a nice day...

    • @BeezyKing99
      @BeezyKing99 Рік тому +43

      valid question regarding the axial thrust/stress caused by the lateral forces of this DIY clutch... I don't believe these Toyans were made to be used as such, more like display pieces and/or generator models.

    • @MaNNeRz91
      @MaNNeRz91 Рік тому +14

      He's already run a car with a similar engine. And he's able to machine and upgrade any parts that might show as weaknesses.

    • @carlosschagun6922
      @carlosschagun6922 Рік тому +38

      @@BeezyKing99 This could be solved placing a thrust bearing between the engine and the clutch and fixed to the chassis...

    • @Morannar
      @Morannar Рік тому +20

      Nylon (or any random plastic) cones are ok.
      The power output is minimal and thge contact area is wide.
      If the torque to be transmitted will ever exceed the clutch "rating", it's simply a matter of making a new bigger/wider/longer one.
      Not to mention that a new cone will take a very short time to make (the shape is simple enough and the material easily adapts in the case of a mismatched angle).
      Regarding the axial load on the clutch, as Carlos Schagun noted, it's simply a matter of using a thrust bearing on the bearing support...
      However, even shitty ball/roller bearing can take some axial load, and I doubt that servo is pushing with such force.

    • @carlosschagun6922
      @carlosschagun6922 Рік тому +11

      @@Morannar I´m not worried about the axial load on the clutch assembly, I´m worried about the load transmitted to the engine crankshaft that most likely cannot handle this type of load.- To avoid this, a thrust bearing must be placed between the engine and the clutch.

  • @WoodsPrecisionArms
    @WoodsPrecisionArms Рік тому +93

    I love how his machining is so beautiful and precise he doesn’t even test it - just mounts permanently in the car and it works. Outstanding work - really is - QUESTION - do you think you will end up making a version that has the traditional transmission and bell housing?

    • @yrusonoz5574
      @yrusonoz5574 Рік тому +2

      That would be incredibly awesome if he did

    • @evilsdexter5261
      @evilsdexter5261 Рік тому +20

      dude, this is not live tv, most certainly he had several tries and tests before he shot the final build....

    • @PaxHeadroom
      @PaxHeadroom Рік тому +4

      The magic of editing. No doubt this guy is skilled, but nobody actually builds something like this from scratch this perfectly.

    • @inventiveowl395
      @inventiveowl395 Рік тому +3

      @@PaxHeadroom I agree but at the same time, it's not impossible thanks to the existence of math. These days, you can do a full FEM simulation on an average gaming laptop. "All that's to it" is proper design. Measure thrice - cut once, if you will.

    • @dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol
      @dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol Рік тому +1

      Nice work brother! This is what we need for our 4 stroke engines 👍👍👍

  • @mitsuman5555
    @mitsuman5555 Рік тому +63

    And just like that, full RPM launches became possible, haha. Awesome work!

  • @associatedblacksheepandmisfits
    @associatedblacksheepandmisfits Рік тому +39

    Hope there's going to be a lube system for that gearbox !! Awesome work as always ❤

    • @RingingResonance
      @RingingResonance Рік тому +1

      Encase it in acrylic maybe?

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams Рік тому +1

      @@RingingResonance Some thin sheet metal maybe because the friction is going to cause heat and that heat will transfer to the oil and then into the casing (As it does in real cars) so you want something that can absorb and conduct heat fairly well.

  • @steampunkenie9807
    @steampunkenie9807 Рік тому +3

    Once every few months I'm greeted by the incredible engineering and video quality of Jonny. Well done man, I love your content!

  • @thecoffeecup144
    @thecoffeecup144 Рік тому +3

    Love seeing the process and progress on this build. Keep up the great work and good luck

  • @jansvasta2146
    @jansvasta2146 Рік тому +58

    Beautiful, your engineering skills are admirable! Just one thought, there must be lots of axial force on the bushing and male cone of the clutch, maybe it's not an issue, but I can see how a little thrust bearing in there could help :)

    • @LesNewell
      @LesNewell Рік тому +6

      Cone clutches don't need much force to work. Delrin is a pretty good bearing material so I don't expect he will have much trouble there. At a guess the most likely problem will be the Delrin melting where it meets the female taper.

  • @extinctfleaz2661
    @extinctfleaz2661 Рік тому +3

    This when it’s complete will be the worlds fastest rc car by far

  • @roboman2444
    @roboman2444 Рік тому +9

    I would suggest changing the servo positioning such that the servo horn is almost parallel with the linkage it is pulling on at "full clutch lock". This will give you greater precision for slipping the clutch, more pressure that the servo can actually put into the clutch, and also put less strain on the servo when holding the clutch engaged.
    Or implement it like most full size cars, where the clutch springs pull it tight, and the input (clutch pedal) disengages it.

  • @ltlappi7052
    @ltlappi7052 Рік тому +1

    I'd say I'm in rc car modelling, too, but comparingto this it's nothing. Man, what you are doing there is true art! Fascinating! Awesome! Keep it going! 👏

  • @danielfouardlibertarianono8017

    I love it you're the boss. All of us passenger seat engineers who could only dream of having the equipment you get to sport. And will never have anything close to a scaled down super bad ass V8 engine to install in an r/c car. Are giving you all the advice you can possibly handle. My only suggestion is to load the clutch with a springamathing so as to take the load off of the servo. You're awesome JQ!

  • @robgallant1239
    @robgallant1239 Рік тому

    I've been following this build and had similar thoughts about the clutch system. This idea was, in my opinion, genius! Luv it man.. I was watching the parts being made and waiting for them to come together with such anticipation, from loving the idea, in my head I heard.. BOOM! followed by dramatic, inspirational music lol. Great job with all ur builds, this especially has me sittin at the edge waiting for the next update.. thanks for the content very enjoyable

  • @77Dok77
    @77Dok77 Рік тому

    Your workmanship is impeccable. I wish I had half the machinery you have.

  • @ghostinng274
    @ghostinng274 Рік тому

    I love RC videos so I'm surprised I haven't seen this till now. This thing is cool. It also sounds amazing for being that small

  • @ETKSauron
    @ETKSauron Рік тому +1

    your skills never cease to amaze me...well done my friend, thank you for another video!

  • @mrsaizo0000
    @mrsaizo0000 7 місяців тому

    I find all your videos amazing, keep up the good work!

  • @The777tom
    @The777tom Рік тому +1

    Awesome man! Love your content. I’m a auto tech. The only thing I could recommend is to make the clutch self engaging. That way it doesn’t put extra load on the engine from the friction of the clutch fork bushing when you trying to draw power of the engine. You could have a it spring loaded and relaxes the spring tension with a clutch fork to let it free wheel. Like they do on normal manual transmission. I think the extra friction is hurting the performance greatly.

  • @iansnakey
    @iansnakey 11 місяців тому

    Wow just wow your work is amazing! What I wouldn’t do to have talent and skill to this level! Love watching your work! Keep it up! Truly amazing skill!

  • @technicbuilder6410
    @technicbuilder6410 Рік тому +2

    Now you can do clutch kicks :D
    But, by engaging the clutch you are putting axial load on bearings. Don't have any idea how to solve that right now, I'm just pointing out.

  • @alfaqvcarlos4406
    @alfaqvcarlos4406 Рік тому

    Finally! I've been waiting for years to see you make a manual clutch! So cool

  • @NOHCHEYCHO-BORZ
    @NOHCHEYCHO-BORZ Рік тому

    Bravo, la más alta obra de ingeniería... Saludos desde Argentina

  • @adriandrozdowicz836
    @adriandrozdowicz836 Рік тому

    Looks so good, I am waiting for a longer video with full presentation of the car 😎

  • @Grabagear
    @Grabagear Рік тому

    You are a master of your craft. Engineering a clutch system for your 4-speed transmission is all inspiring, I can't wait to see the things you build. I build a lot of My RCS from scratch used parts from children's toys and 1/10 scale RC parts. Carbon plastic in wood and metal s. The car you're doing right now is what all RC's should be. I have installed a 2.5 ofnah nitro motor into a RadioShack 1/5 scale Camaro. The first time I took it out to drive it the engine revved out of control and destroyed my drive shaft so now it has sat for a year while I build 1/10 scale crawlers and trail trucks. I look forward to everything you build, it's quite amazing. Can't wait to see what is next🤔

  • @defaultdriftco00
    @defaultdriftco00 Рік тому

    Always enjoy your content! Can’t wait to see this thing rip!!

  • @welshdave5263
    @welshdave5263 Рік тому +3

    Awesome work as always, think you may need to look at wheel balancing though.

  • @MMMX38
    @MMMX38 Рік тому +5

    Stunning job so far! I did noticed the teflon cone was coming out of the clutch housing while revving the enging. Not sure if centrifugal forces are overcoming the engagement solenoid or not. Just FYI.

    • @blackroberts6290
      @blackroberts6290 11 місяців тому

      Maybe it will be better if it disengages when pedal is pressed like a normal car, that way it can use stiffer springs

  • @adelaseeri768
    @adelaseeri768 8 місяців тому

    Amazing work, one thing that comes to mind though this looks like it's got more torque then your typical glow engine, and the gearbox has more gears and counter gears then a typical setup wouldn't enclosing the transmission and adding something like ATF oil provide more protection just like a real transmission to protect your work, just a thought.

  • @angusholley5952
    @angusholley5952 Рік тому

    I love to see men playing with big toys, enjoying themselves like they're kids again

  • @ThatCarGuyYT
    @ThatCarGuyYT Рік тому +4

    Hey , you should get a remote where you can mix the channels . For example CH2 which is throttle and the channel you use for the clutch , so that when you give throttle the clutch engages without use of a third hand. Great job as always!!!

    • @SilverShux
      @SilverShux Рік тому

      Interesting. Would he be able to adjust them independently? I ask because the clutch needs to become fully engaged, before the throttle is fully engaged. I’m guessing the clutch servo will move little compared to the throttle servo. But I like this idea very much 👍

    • @ThatCarGuyYT
      @ThatCarGuyYT Рік тому

      @@SilverShux yes you can vary the rate of the channel or even disengage it. We use it on rc crawler for exemple to winch accordingly to throttle.

  • @inothome
    @inothome Рік тому +1

    Interesting use case for what appears to be UHMD in a friction application. Normally that is used to reduce friction, if that is in fact UHMD. That set up is also creating a little more load for that little engine. Only mentioned that since you mentioned the 4WD was working the motor hard. All those extra rotating friction points are also adding slight loads that will eventually add up. Still a great build, not knocking it at all, keep up the good work.

  • @BaldSasquatch
    @BaldSasquatch Рік тому

    as always, fantastic work and design!

  • @easydoesit2006
    @easydoesit2006 Рік тому

    Awesome work Jonny😊

  • @TaylorAmes
    @TaylorAmes Рік тому

    You could use channel mixing on the remote to apply the clutch smoothly for the first few percent of your throttle throw. The dial would still allow you to actuate it manually if you wanted to do full throttle launches or anything like that. It would also make it so it will automatically disengage the clutch when you brake so you don't kill the engine.
    Many people have mentioned the wear on the engine's crankshaft since it likely isn't built to handle the axial thrust from a clutch. Depending on how durable you want it to be, it may be necessary to fabricate some form of external thrust bearing or a clutch that acuates from both sides to eliminate the thrust.
    Love your projects!

  • @BBROPHOTO
    @BBROPHOTO Рік тому +6

    Your work and progression on this has been great to follow!
    2 quick questions if I may, are you still working on the supercharger? and what is the outro music called?

  • @lillysweetpea
    @lillysweetpea Рік тому +1

    I think your best bet is going to be light weight steel bell housing and a steel cone with a machined down brake pad to fit either around the inside of the bell or outside of the cone for better engagement. I noticed the cone back out under load and also figured the Teflon probably wouldnt provide the best grip for this application.

  • @Roger-hq1yt
    @Roger-hq1yt Рік тому

    Excellent, what a great bit of micro engineering

  • @fruitygranulizer540
    @fruitygranulizer540 Рік тому

    the build we all have been waiting for!

  • @winstonpratt604
    @winstonpratt604 Рік тому

    I have to say you are truly a RC Genius at engineering... im a old Traxxas and tamiyo guy. And your custom stuff just Blows my mind 🤯😉🤙👊🤌

  • @thqp
    @thqp Рік тому

    That is AMAZING! That engine sounds so GOOOOOOOOOD!

  • @steven-chezztar
    @steven-chezztar Рік тому

    This is so incredibly cool!

  • @winstonpratt604
    @winstonpratt604 Рік тому

    Can't wait to see a finished product 🙌 ❤ 💯

  • @jagergerg9771
    @jagergerg9771 Рік тому

    That’s insane beautiful build the engine sounds nice

  • @modifire6418
    @modifire6418 Рік тому +2

    2:53 damn! that beat slaps tho

  • @speckledjim_
    @speckledjim_ Рік тому

    Amazing work man 👍

  • @riddledj3468
    @riddledj3468 Рік тому

    The lathe work blows my mind

  • @patriotcanuck6485
    @patriotcanuck6485 Рік тому

    You do amazing work!

  • @ruiruivo83
    @ruiruivo83 Рік тому

    Amazing, greath work. It shakes a little when throtling.

  • @srerccustoms537
    @srerccustoms537 Рік тому

    Wow you never seam to disappoint .your just amazing brother

  • @Samuel-vd9gy
    @Samuel-vd9gy Рік тому

    hello, your work is fantastic! I really like RC. Big hug from Brazil 🇧🇷

  • @YooProjects
    @YooProjects Рік тому

    Spectacular project my friend 👍

  • @wessmann
    @wessmann Рік тому

    amazing work Q90

  • @MASI_forging
    @MASI_forging Рік тому

    Great work as always 👍👍

  • @bjeremii
    @bjeremii Рік тому

    I can't wait to see the final product of this.

  • @danyaalaziz5612
    @danyaalaziz5612 4 місяці тому

    This is the best sounding RC engine.

  • @rsquared9703
    @rsquared9703 Рік тому

    As some other comments have said, that brass collet could be replaced with a bearing of some sort, lots of friction will get built up there. Another thought on the cone clutch, if you put in some helical splines on the taper surface, that should help it bite into engagement (until it wears out of course)

  • @timshykes9723
    @timshykes9723 Рік тому

    Holy Crap your one hell of a designer 😳.
    Love your innovativeness .

  • @bostonbudz4616
    @bostonbudz4616 Рік тому

    Coming along great👊👏👏👏👏

  • @netoluna1
    @netoluna1 Рік тому

    Sencillamente bello, buen trabajo

  • @yt678901
    @yt678901 Рік тому

    My Mosquito racket stopped working. Its Lead acid battery failed. I soldered a 18650, now its working fine. Now i have to place the Charging circuit in the bat. I have a small motor with drill attachment, which i have to use to remove all plastic for fitting charging circuit. This guy has so nice tools, i feel like jumping off a tall building.

  • @menom7
    @menom7 Рік тому

    Loved watching this entire video JohnnyQ90!!! Your "detail" on whatever it is your working on is so exquisite! Looking forward to the next video!!! : >)

  • @subhodipdatta6774
    @subhodipdatta6774 9 місяців тому

    I would suggest make a big driving car like this it would be great to use

  • @brandynmay3013
    @brandynmay3013 5 місяців тому

    5 axis mill! I’m impressed

  • @UberAlphaSirus
    @UberAlphaSirus Рік тому +4

    Sewing machine conical clutches use leather as the friction material. in the 25+ years I have used them, don't think I ever had to change the leather. Nice and smooth too.

    • @GeomancerHT
      @GeomancerHT Рік тому +1

      Are the RPM even close?

    • @hydrochloricity
      @hydrochloricity Рік тому +3

      It was a fairly common clutch system in turn of the century cars, too. Off hand, I know Renault used it.

    • @UberAlphaSirus
      @UberAlphaSirus Рік тому +1

      @@GeomancerHT 3krpm

  • @PAINFOOL13
    @PAINFOOL13 Рік тому

    Nice work again 👏

  • @PikemanLures
    @PikemanLures Рік тому +1

    when you're parting anything off on the lathe, use the back of a cheap bic pen to catch the part or just stop it and pull it off when it's really close. that will save you a lot of dings and scratches.

  • @astonmartin2799
    @astonmartin2799 Рік тому

    Восхищаюсь автором! Джони,знай,у тебя есть поклонник из Казахстана 🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿 ты осуществляешь мою мечту

  • @user-yg6nn3ky3l
    @user-yg6nn3ky3l Рік тому

    Awesome high technical work

  • @TurboCamry69
    @TurboCamry69 Рік тому

    My dog loves the sounds as always

  • @jacebeleren9679
    @jacebeleren9679 Рік тому

    so cool - ty for this 😊👍

  • @hubbabubba7244
    @hubbabubba7244 Рік тому

    Amazing as always.

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC Рік тому +1

    I finally know what to do with my third hand while driving RCs!

  • @DecrepitWombat
    @DecrepitWombat Рік тому

    I never knew a V8 that small could sound so good!😂

  • @Javierblaszczyk
    @Javierblaszczyk Рік тому

    Nice work mate 👍🏻

  • @justinnamilee
    @justinnamilee Рік тому

    Super neat. It (the car) is way bigger than I thought it was, too.

  • @TerraMagnus
    @TerraMagnus 10 місяців тому

    This is next level badass.

  • @martintuija
    @martintuija 10 місяців тому

    Crazy skills you have 👌

  • @persianir8734
    @persianir8734 11 місяців тому

    I enjoyed it very much, thank you

  • @bigbattenberg
    @bigbattenberg Рік тому +1

    Cool. I have a Tamiya Toyota Hilux still sitting here that came with a 3-speed gearbox. On an electric motor. Beautiful piece, completely sealed. Although not sealed enough to run in oil, which would have been even better.

  • @jasonsmart4916
    @jasonsmart4916 Рік тому

    That's something else nice johney 👍

  • @schrodingers_kater
    @schrodingers_kater Рік тому

    It clutch is more interesting. Impressive work. My respects.

  • @ttargetss
    @ttargetss 11 місяців тому

    Just a suggestion from turning similar plastic materials. A shop vac will draw away the chips preventing them from wrapping around the tool and/or part

  • @max90153
    @max90153 Рік тому

    As a little side project, you could make a little test stand with rollers, like a dyno. Would be pretty useful for all the testing you've been doing on various cars. Adjustable wheelbase for different chassis?

  • @markbooe205
    @markbooe205 Рік тому

    Excellent Job 😮

  • @coyotedaf8176
    @coyotedaf8176 10 місяців тому

    good job man,it's a futur cool car....

  • @dz-abouttechnique1849
    @dz-abouttechnique1849 Рік тому

    Nice project!

  • @arjunasarathym8082
    @arjunasarathym8082 10 місяців тому

    I love that engine ROAR!! :) !!

  • @ilovelulu8492
    @ilovelulu8492 5 місяців тому

    Man thats pretty legit got what looks like mini Liberty gear box 🤣 . im not really an RC guy, but I do love race cars and seeing people machine their own stuff.

  • @microbuilder
    @microbuilder Рік тому

    This project is awesome, but that little mill...that thing is amazing lol

  • @MrSima012
    @MrSima012 Рік тому

    You're genius 👏👏👏

  • @a2rc
    @a2rc Рік тому

    It always awesome to follow your vids.
    - I think you will need a different power plant/engine if it can’t handle the additional drivetrain resistance from 4wd, with no load on it. Just a thought.

  • @Bizzenn1976
    @Bizzenn1976 Рік тому

    Incredible!

  • @MegaEmmanuel09
    @MegaEmmanuel09 Рік тому

    I think having that jug on the back of your car would already make a great exhaust 😂

  • @mrknoklene
    @mrknoklene Рік тому

    Super cool!

  • @user-vf3np5ou9g
    @user-vf3np5ou9g Рік тому

    bro i can barely make a circuit board for a gameboy and this guys makin clutches for an rc car 🤯

  • @ricksanchez2027
    @ricksanchez2027 Рік тому

    Wow bro love your videos

  • @priestlyworship7
    @priestlyworship7 9 місяців тому

    that's perfect mini engine with using clutch

  • @FarmerFpv
    @FarmerFpv Рік тому

    You're insane, bro!

  • @MrProducee
    @MrProducee 11 місяців тому

    cant wait to see the finnished car

  • @UnfairFrame653
    @UnfairFrame653 Рік тому +1

    Dang now this is a scaled down car!