She got drunk, took her clothes off, discovered by security guard, totally embarrassed herself at work, about to get fired, then played the victim call rape! Then coached by a journalist who has no integrity to make false statements.
You forget 6 weeks before the alleged rape, she had sent texts to her boyfriend discussing creating a political sex scandal. "It's so easy now, the bar is set so low!" Also Brittany Higgins knew her partner had given documents related to her alleged rape to journalists before police had formally interviewed her. Signed up for $325,000 book deal. $3million in compensation for unproven allegations.This was well planned. Needs to be investigated further.
@@jovitagutay3692I stand for him also. CCTV shows so much....she sure did NOT walk out of that office devastated, desperate but just knowing exactly what she was doing. Making mega$$$$$ It gives women such a bad name
@@AnnieGrace777 TUrns out she stole one of Reynolds' cardigans in the hope that it would look like a different woman walking out in terms of the Cctv cameras. This came up in the recent legal hearings. Y'all can't make this stuff up.
@@jovitagutay3692 Don't stand too close to little fatty Brucie. There's a nasty case coming up regarding a prossie in Toowomba too. It's been somewhat suppressed. He did not take precautions but he said to her she would . She's claiming SA. It will likely go to court April- May of 2025. So much for Bruceie's meteoric career as a wannabe lawyer. You only have to listen to ten minutes of interview with the guy to realise he's a Fkwit. That however does not mean he rpd scummy, lying B Higgins. She's basically a trollop on the make. A Grifter as they say in the USA. TEF
A sophisticated conspirist, a plotting scam artist. The thought of her writing a book is cringe grunge? A book based on a lie that framed an innocent guy? Her lies sank the me too# movement and she is neither sorry or cares about that?
@@Ozzie3356 LOL. The $Metoo 'agenda' SUNK itself. ALL $Metoo accussers are LIARS looking for clout. Hopefully Weinsterin's FAKE conviction will be overturned like Cosby's was.
You could tell from the beginning. She was all eyes on him. He didn't even look her way. Even entering the building after hours it was as if she was nonexistent, he kept walking not acknowledging her existence yet again. The women has just made it 10 times harder for real victims to come forward. She needs to be prosecuted.
@@cobar5342 the Salem Witch Hunts were based on the testimonies of young women. Those infamous lynchings of (black and white) men in Southern U.S. were based on the accusations of women.
FOOL! $metoo was NEVER about victims. It was ALWAYS corrupt, and ALWAYS about FALSE charges. Cosby is INNOCENT. Weinstein is INNOCENT. ALL MALE celebrities are innocent of rapes...all $metoo claims are >LIES
The ACT DPP Shane Drumgold decided to have the police charge Bruce Lehrmann and take it to court - he then withdrew the charges and effectively had them dropped citing concern for Higgins welfare (ridiculous) after jury misconduct, effectively leaving Bruce Lehrmann in public limbo. The whole thing should never have been brought to court in the first place. The fact that DPP Drumgold stated in a press conference that there was reasonable belief a conviction could have been achieved in the same talk of him dropping the charges is disgraceful.
Retrial was set down for February 2023. She claimed to be mentally unfit to go through a retrial. But in December 2022 was well enough to claim $3million compensation lawsuit! Paid $2.5m for being mentally unfit to ever work again. But miraculously recovered, got a business degree at university and a new job. Blatant corruption.
Wonderful to hear a balanced and reasonable synopsis of this horrid situation. Thank you. Trust in one institution, for me, has been badly shaken as a result of this mess - the ALP. I’m an avowed centrist, have always liked Albo, and have been quietly impressed by he and the ALP……until this fiasco. Their complicity - namely the sinister actions and behaviour by the ‘mean girls’ - has sadly eroded all of that good intention and support now.
G'day DJ. I'm a centrist too, only the frame I was in the middle of shifted significantly to the left, so now I'm an extremist on the right apparently. Plenty of space over here and tolerance for debate too.
Great to hear Linda Reynolds may also sue Brittany Higgins too now. Hopefully corruption inquiry into the payout also makes her pay $3million of taxpayers money back.
No she hasn’t. If there is evidence of assault, then justice should occur based on the evidence. The case has brought to light ‘he said, she said’ and all the grey areas around that. But for actual assault cases where there is evidence then nothing has changed.
@@Quillette "Thank you!" No, thank you. I was fully expecting a woke rant. I'm looking forward to viewing some of your earlier material over the weekend.
Higgins needs to give back the 3 million tax payers dollars she made a drunken mistake but should have gone through the same process as everyone else in Society
It is such a delight listening to calm, rational voices from well thought out perspectives. A far cry from the normal rubbish and theatrical bullshit we are bombarded with. Your work is greatly appreciated ladies, your grasp on reality is clearly far more advanced than the mainstream.
Very level headed conversation girls... Hats off to you. I'm a keep it simple guy if any crime that has been committed against you Inc rape.... Go to the police!.... Now.... with Brittany there was a lot of dithering around on her part in reporting it to the police & you have to ask yourself how serious is her rape claim but yet there was an awful lot of megaphoning in the media.
It’s very telling that in the latest released audio from the Wilkinson interview, he partner said he had asked her what she wanted out of it and she had told him “ for it to be as hard for him to get a job from now on as me and best case scenario senator Reynolds” not justice or anything of that sort. Her ultimate goal was for Reynolds to get sacked and Lehman to have a tough time getting a job ever again in her words.
She talks about Lidia in yesterday's column in The Australian: www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/why-going-to-police-is-still-the-best-hope-for-assault-victims/news-story/dbbb8317dc798468fca528d020599b32
Higgins now playing the political game of divisiveness based on her prejudice and willingness to do just about anything in respect to powerplays for her own personal benefit.
At the forsaken meet up for drinks earlier that evening was a tinder hubby that Higgin invited, lucky fella got home safe. Why the security never checked all night after watching 1 of the 2 intruders leaving within an hour. Why higgin did not get a doctor's report, why were the clothes and couch not checked for dna as in Bill Clinton's saga, instead of "I think and assume".
There are two things I'd love to know about this case. 1. Was there evidence of the work he claimed he carried out? 2. Where were her clothes located when she was found?
I want to know why she lied so often that the Police said it shouldnt go to trial. Plus she stole the Ministers jacket from her wardrobe and wore it next morning yet said she got it from a second hand bin. Why lie about that. She cant help herself. She lied about a lot of other stuff as well. She said the minister never had a photo taken with her because the minister hated her yet there are many photos of them together. LIAR LIAR. She cant help herself.
Feel sorry for Bruce I hope he can get on with his life ,as for Brittany Higgins she should be made to pay that money the taxpayer money back and good Riddens to her😠😠😠as for ALBO shame on him 😡
@@jeanettewellman9398 Tanya Plibersek was on channel 7 when Bruce finally come out and gave his versions of of what happened, she was asked by the host whether she saw the program, she answered no she didn’t need to, well there you go she had already made her mind up that he was guilty.
😆MEN are the REAL victims of FALSE rape claims. DON'T portray wo-MEN as the victims of this agenda, REAL rape is less than 2% over 98% of rape claims are LIES. wo-MEN are 'NOT' the victims of this , MEN are!
Her lawyers tried hard to win her case not because they’re concerned about her but because they are concerned about their own agenda and trying hard to prove they are top lawyers and will win no matter how false the allegations were! I only hope there are still good lawyers out there searching for truth “ONLY”!
Wow! I have never heard women talking in such a measured, balanced and fair manner. However, much of what needs to be discussed regarding these important issues, enjoys perpetual shade due to the fact that most western women are firstly: regimentally educated with feminist ideology which they unquestionly accept, and secondly: are unable to accept that they don't really understand what it's like to live as a man (even though claim to and genuinely believe that they do). Imagine a world where men can take back control of their sexuality for example, via purpose-developed drugs. This would benefit men greatly (and incidentally may be on the horizon), but how would women fare in a world where they are excluded from interactions with men due to natuarally occuring differences and removal of the impetus for wanting to pair-bond? It's entirely possible, but is it a place that secures humanity's future? Conversations such as this are rare and clearly painful to accept if you believe that *your* behaviour is not the problem. Clearly feminists are motivated by misandry and aren't seeking solutions, far from it, the victim narrative is a convenient excuse to explain underperformance in a number of areas, e.g. "I don't get promoted at work because the patriarchy conspire to oppress me". Perhaps the best person for that job was a man.
As a older man, 73, it’s heartening to hear such a balanced discussion of the male/female relationship psyche as opposed to the bias and modern stereotyping of what is acceptable.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 📰 *The podcast discusses the Brittany Higgins scandal, which involved sexual assault allegations in Australia's Parliament House during the **#MeToo** movement.* 01:09 🚓 *The allegations led to questions in the Australian Parliament about what the government knew and how they handled the case, creating a political scandal.* 02:42 📝 *A mistrial occurred during the legal proceedings, and there's controversy about the police's handling of the case due to lack of evidence.* 04:19 📱 *Text messages between Brittany Higgins and others show efforts to publicize her allegation in Parliament, raising questions about potential conspiracies.* 09:20 ⚖️ *The discussion touches on the importance of the presumption of innocence and the dangers of "believe all women" as a slogan.* 21:42 👩👦👦 *The conversation also addresses the need to protect children from sexual assault and highlights that it's not just a gendered crime, emphasizing the importance of evidence and reporting.* 27:42 🧐 *Sex ratios can influence social dynamics, and having more women than men can change the dating and interaction dynamics.* 28:36 😬 *Screenshotting texts on dating apps has made men more cautious about what they say, leading to increased awkwardness.* 30:01 👫 *Understanding and having empathy for male sexuality can help interpret communication signals from men more accurately.* 31:12 😔 *Compassion is important, especially between the sexes, to bridge the gap of understanding and trust.* 33:05 💪 *Victimhood culture can be detrimental to women as it can lead to perceiving themselves as victims and hinder risk-taking, while men may become more resilient in response.* Made with HARPA AI
I know 2 men, who on seperate cases, were accused of R@pe. The first guy was charged, then before the case made it to the courts, the charges were dropped, as evidence was found that the allegations were false. The second guy was charged, faced court, and the accuser ultimately admitted the act was consensual. He was found not guilty, yet the allegations is still on his criminal record. It cost him $10s of thousands, to defend himself. I also know of a situaltion where the threat of false allegations were made to a guy over his exgf owing him money. The threat was not followed through, yet the woman in question stated, that the police would believe her because women dont lie. Also please google Sarah-Jane Parkinson, the only woman I have heard of that was actually convicted of false allegations. How about a 100% suppression of SA and R@pe cases, until a guilty verdict has been reached. That way the media, and certain movements, cant destroy innocent lives. Lisa W has proven that perjury and contempt of court, is not taken seriouly
Yes people don't realise accusations made to police and reach court, even if found to be false, stay on your record for at least 10 years. I knew a guy that was refused a taxi licence due to false accusations that were dropped in court 9 years prior to his licence application on the grounds he had a "criminal record".
I feel very conflicted in this conflict. I would be really interested in hearing the full unedited audio that was leaked as I think that would really give a deep insight to what is going on. After listening to the first ten minutes of the audio between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard there was so much there that you could figure out what was going on just listening to the way they spoke to each other, verbal body language etc. Do you know where I can find the audio? If you want to keep it private feel free to message it to me. I would be truly grateful :) Thank you!
brittany you proved bruce right when you running after security after him shoes in hand mind you knew where and what you were doing you knew what you about to do and got caught out feel for boyfriend
The feminist movement became highly successful and with that came a lot of power. Power is force that is hard to control and can easily get corrupted if not handled carefully.
Peoples identities should be kept confidential in al criminal cases until a final verdict is reached. The untold damage a false allegation can have on a persons life must be mitigated.
her last prediction was rubbish. The pressure on men is not going to drive them to be more successful, it is going to drive them to give up and think the juice and worth the squeeze.
Sexual abuse is motivated by power. That is what professionals say. Why I accept this: the number of man who are seduced by illegitimate sex is much much bigger than the man who act on it. And why go for week children instead of older women because it is power exercised by very cowered people
There is absolutely no excuse for sexual abuse. But not all risks are aqually risky and every human being male or female will pay a price for being presumptuous when they take a greater risk than they should
I never thought I would hear females being so honest about men being accused by women. If a man is accused of a crime by a woman he is then branded guilty. They have both lost their jobs but only one received a payout shouldn't the both of them be I titled to a payout. For all of his life he will be known as a rapist, his employability is shot, but he is not guilty. The level of entitlement that women seem to have is beyond belief. How do any male find a partner that you can trust, where you are not going to be accused of something that has not happened. Men walk a very tight line.
In Australia we rely on hard evidence, physical evidence and not just witness testimony. So if you're dealing with a perpetrator that's managed to cover all their tracks don't bother going to the police or reporting because it's your word against theirs and you may have a defamation case on your hands and could also impact your career. Although lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. Media plays a significant role in being able to sway public opinion. If enough of these high profile cases are found to be false allegations woman, who have a real case, could fear being perceive as liars. Claire stated that there are a lot of statistics and activist claims around sexual assault that she's not sure are entirely reliable but bases most of her discussion around these unreliable statistics? I guess we need to get some statistics on the age of the perpetrators as it seems we have more unreliable stats on the victim than we do on the perpetrators to tell if these assaults are based on sex or power. If the perpetrators are old men, for example that can't even get an erection, then it makes no sense that it would be based on sex. Hitting on teens could also mean it's about power, as they are more vulnerable and an easier target than hitting on a woman in her 40s.
@@ragebait988 yes rage, in the case of rape, I would agree but I was commenting with regard to assault. As a women, I was assaulted at work (local Government) and the perpetrator did it when I was in a place of isolation with no witnesses about. Obviously, a perpetrator is going to be very calculated as to when they strike. It would have been my word against his making it hard to prove. Feeling unsafe I had to give up that job which cost me in loss of wages and the inconvenience of having to find another job.
Aussie's have a relatively high opinion of their pollies? Really?:) Where is that coming from? And our justice system is world gold standard?:) Where is that coming from?
@@multioptioned That was my first thought. I suppose there are two variables at play, though. (A) How corrupt governments actually ARE. (B) How corrupt the public PERCEIVES them to be. It is possible the Aussie public is above the global average for gullibility.:)
If you read my earlier comment you will understand why I became interested in the claims of feminist activists. Regarding the comment in the video (12:58) that "There's a lot of static statistics and activist claims around sexual assault that I am not sure are entirely reliable." A "rape crisis on campus" mantra was imported from the United States. The human rights commission spent a million dollars on an investigation and found there was no such crisis, even though it counted cases such as being stared at on public transport while students were travelling to the university, and the offender was not a student. Bettina Arndt, a commentator on these matters did a tour of campuses to publicise the findings. She was subjected to a campaign of harassment and intimidation for doing so, with riot police being called to the University of Sydney. The media wrongly claimed that Arndt was campaigning against the findings of the Commission, showing that the journalists had not bothered to find out what either the Commission or Arndt actually said. Similarly, regarding the feminist campaign on family violence which portrays women and children as solely the victims of male violence. I have tried to comment to newspaper articles on statistics from sources such as the Australian Institute of Criminology which show that women are as likely to initiate violence as men, although being physically weaker they do less damage and that women are more likely than men to be child abusers and the person most likely to kill a child is the mother. So children are not most at danger from mum's boyfriend, they are most at risk from mum. Not all victims of former or present intimate partner homicide are women. Half are men. But these facts must not see the light of day. So if these statistics seem unblelievible, that is why.
Thanks for the interesting talk. I had not thought about Brittany Higgins in a three into three instinctual contest because it seemed to hard solidify an impression until you mentioned the three dark traits. I understood the three instincts and six instinctual variants were in play and that sensing thinking and feeling at the instinctual level was a driving factor in the Brittany Higgins personal saga. Now my thought are Brittany Higgins may have been struggling within between nine components of a three into three dynamic of mind that stem from the instinctual level. The nine dynamics being, ( Faith in humanity, Narcissism and Sensing, Humanism, Machiavellianism and Feeling, Kantianism, Psychopathy and Thinking.) Mind must always deal with the three factor of ( Positive, Negative and Neutral) and express its self though the nine energies underpinning type, that is all part of relating as a human with other humans and the external world from our own internal inner world of thoughts. Confusion and anger with these Nine light and dark involuntary components of mind may have lead Miss Higgins to form a pathological saga that has advanced her life's narrative socially and financially. Brittany seems to wish to inform educate and influence the nine energies of Type and eighteen Egoic Mind Sets by becoming a public personality and influencer and paid professional speaker. I think Brittany Higgins operates at the level of imbalance and fears the foreshadowing of things to come. The Foreshadowing of things to come seems to be generated from Brittany's Intuition in play, her first function of four. ( Intuition, Feeling, Sensing and Thinking). Brittany's own Intuition maybe the overcompensating factor that is driving a complex narrative at the instinctual level of her own direct cognition. let use all gather sticks and follow the medieval tradition of witch burning. Thanks Claire and Zoe.
Overall pretty balanced, except where you said that "Chivalry is not dead", sorry but #MeToo has killed it stone dead. I work in a female dominated workplace and I am nothing but professional and who is there first goes first, the woman next to me is my competitor for the next job, they don't get any different treatment to that of a bloke. I don't care about the gender, although with their gender comes higher risk to you as a bloke. You only get additional politeness "Chivalry" if you want to call it that only because they were kind or courteous to my neutral actions first and I then will reciprocate. I will not give additional politeness unless equivalent energy is given first. You are right though "There is a lot of distrust between the sexes".
Lets put some cards on the table....Mr.Lehrmann goes out for Friday night drinks...but leaves his house keys in his office..yeah right?!! A witness sees him & Higgins kissing on a couch in the venue...ummm,,,getting warmer. they both enter parliment house via security...on the basis he has to collect something from his office....yeah Right!!. Higgins is seen in the video happily running up the passage way towards the offices' reception area( not too drunk by the look of it). Lehrman says they go to different offices, and he spends 40 minutes in his office, without checking on if she needs a lift home...yeah, right!! His phone is switched off so his at home girlfriend can't contact him...funny about that!! Higgins manages to get naked on the ministers couch all by herself ...yeah, right!! She has a boyfriend also, who would not be too pleased to learn that she had it off with Lehrman. She flakes, he leaves...end of story...ALMOST... he gets fired, she crys rape to act innocent and keep her job. .....Stone the bloody crows.....and everyone believes each of their stories. ...and at the end of all this bullshit, Higgins gets a 2-3 mill payout on just an "allegation...and he gets sent to Coventry. This shit has to be uncovered, and both of their partners can see the real truth and take appropriate actions. A naughty, after Friday night drinks, certainly has put many in a spin,huh?!!
I suspect they had consensual sex, as far as he was concerned - but I would imagine he was used to taking advantage of highly intoxicated women. I think she probably realised she was just being used, wished she hadn't taken part - either half way through, or afterwards. Mind you, being so drunk, you sometimes have to accept that you've put yourself in a situation where you've put yourself at risk. They are both to blame, as far as I can see. If you get legless with colleagues from work, and have sex, you're an idiot, waiting for something to go wrong. Leaving her naked and drunk, in an empty office was mean. He also ran the risk of being accused of rape, by taking advantage of drunk women, in this way. He was very disrespectful and selfish, to leave her there, and not make sure she got home ok. Another thought I had, was if she'd been drugged with a date rate drug. I think that's quite possible, and that would totally make it rape.
What are you two doing? What was happening when 2 walk into Parliament House after drinks on a Friday night and only one leaves. Smoke and fire Ask your boy about this extremely poor behaviour
She got drunk, took her clothes off, discovered by security guard, totally embarrassed herself at work, about to get fired, then played the victim call rape!
Then coached by a journalist who has no integrity to make false statements.
Sounds likely.
This has been my guess from the beginning
What we always knew and thought.
Agree!
You forget 6 weeks before the alleged rape, she had sent texts to her boyfriend discussing creating a political sex scandal. "It's so easy now, the bar is set so low!"
Also Brittany Higgins knew her partner had given documents related to her alleged rape to journalists before police had formally interviewed her. Signed up for $325,000 book deal. $3million in compensation for unproven allegations.This was well planned. Needs to be investigated further.
Sociopaths lie about being victims for fame and accolades. Shocker.
She’s a narcissist! I don’t know how far a narcissist can go for the goals 😂 I’m a woman but I stand for Bruce!
@@jovitagutay3692I stand for him also.
CCTV shows so much....she sure did NOT walk out of that office devastated, desperate but just knowing exactly what she was doing.
Making mega$$$$$
It gives women such a bad name
@@AnnieGrace777 TUrns out she stole one of Reynolds' cardigans in the hope that it would look like a different woman walking out in terms of the Cctv cameras. This came up in the recent legal hearings. Y'all can't make this stuff up.
@@jovitagutay3692 Don't stand too close to little fatty Brucie. There's a nasty case coming up regarding a prossie in Toowomba too. It's been somewhat suppressed. He did not take precautions but he said to her she would . She's claiming SA. It will likely go to court April- May of 2025.
So much for Bruceie's meteoric career as a wannabe lawyer. You only have to listen to ten minutes of interview with the guy to realise he's a Fkwit.
That however does not mean he rpd scummy, lying B Higgins.
She's basically a trollop on the make. A Grifter as they say in the USA.
TEF
Higgins is a liar.
A sophisticated conspirist, a plotting scam artist.
The thought of her writing a book is cringe grunge? A book based on a lie that framed an innocent guy?
Her lies sank the me too# movement and she is neither sorry or cares about that?
I suspect she is doomed. Karma will catch up with her and the scheming partner .
She turned shame into victimhood. Great tactic - apart from being caught
BH should be in jail.
@@Ozzie3356 LOL. The $Metoo 'agenda' SUNK itself. ALL $Metoo accussers are LIARS looking for clout. Hopefully Weinsterin's FAKE conviction will be overturned like Cosby's was.
You could tell from the beginning. She was all eyes on him. He didn't even look her way. Even entering the building after hours it was as if she was nonexistent, he kept walking not acknowledging her existence yet again. The women has just made it 10 times harder for real victims to come forward. She needs to be prosecuted.
LOL. MEN are the REAL victims of false rape claims, NOT wo-MEN! 98% of rape claims are LIES, less than 2% are real.
Didn't take long for the MeToo movement to become corrupt
It was corrupt from the start
Believe all women
@@damienpol5215 Yep, no woman has ever lied. Oh Hi Amber, Hi Megan...
@@cobar5342 the Salem Witch Hunts were based on the testimonies of young women. Those infamous lynchings of (black and white) men in Southern U.S. were based on the accusations of women.
FOOL! $metoo was NEVER about victims. It was ALWAYS corrupt, and ALWAYS about FALSE charges. Cosby is INNOCENT. Weinstein is INNOCENT. ALL MALE celebrities are innocent of rapes...all $metoo claims are >LIES
The ACT DPP Shane Drumgold decided to have the police charge Bruce Lehrmann and take it to court - he then withdrew the charges and effectively had them dropped citing concern for Higgins welfare (ridiculous) after jury misconduct, effectively leaving Bruce Lehrmann in public limbo. The whole thing should never have been brought to court in the first place. The fact that DPP Drumgold stated in a press conference that there was reasonable belief a conviction could have been achieved in the same talk of him dropping the charges is disgraceful.
Yep. DPP Drumgold
was in on the plot and conspiracy all along
and helped to frame
Bruce Lehrmann set him up.
Retrial was set down for February 2023. She claimed to be mentally unfit to go through a retrial. But in December 2022 was well enough to claim $3million compensation lawsuit! Paid $2.5m for being mentally unfit to ever work again. But miraculously recovered, got a business degree at university and a new job. Blatant corruption.
Lehrnann is guilty. These two are talking absolute garbage.
Pathetic SACK HIM.
@@tonihildebrand4725 Why do you think he is guilty?
Wonderful to hear a balanced and reasonable synopsis of this horrid situation. Thank you. Trust in one institution, for me, has been badly shaken as a result of this mess - the ALP. I’m an avowed centrist, have always liked Albo, and have been quietly impressed by he and the ALP……until this fiasco. Their complicity - namely the sinister actions and behaviour by the ‘mean girls’ - has sadly eroded all of that good intention and support now.
G'day DJ. I'm a centrist too, only the frame I was in the middle of shifted significantly to the left, so now I'm an extremist on the right apparently. Plenty of space over here and tolerance for debate too.
SPOILER ALERT; 98% of rapes are LIES...
Great to hear Linda Reynolds may also sue Brittany Higgins too now. Hopefully corruption inquiry into the payout also makes her pay $3million of taxpayers money back.
That is what she wants - to be seen as a victim. Any campaign to recoup the mobey will play into her hands!
2 very intelligent woman. Talking a lot a common sense. Brittany HIGGINS has ruined it for women telling the truth
No she hasn’t. If there is evidence of assault, then justice should occur based on the evidence. The case has brought to light ‘he said, she said’ and all the grey areas around that. But for actual assault cases where there is evidence then nothing has changed.
All 2% of them LOL. 98% of rape claims are LIES, less than 2% are true.
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I hate that word..."mansplaining"!
Very disrespectful!
Don't forget her huge pay out She did for the money
like an escort, imagine getting paid $3m for 40 min.
2 young women taking a positive, analytical approach. Not what I expected.
Thank you!
@@Quillette "Thank you!" No, thank you. I was fully expecting a woke rant. I'm looking forward to viewing some of your earlier material over the weekend.
LOL. An acheivment for them
Higgins needs to give back the 3 million tax payers dollars she made a drunken mistake but should have gone through the same process as everyone else in Society
This has escalated to complete crap
It is such a delight listening to calm, rational voices from well thought out perspectives. A far cry from the normal rubbish and theatrical bullshit we are bombarded with. Your work is greatly appreciated ladies, your grasp on reality is clearly far more advanced than the mainstream.
Thank you for your kind words!!
Very level headed conversation girls... Hats off to you.
I'm a keep it simple guy if any crime that has been committed against you Inc rape.... Go to the police!.... Now.... with Brittany there was a lot of dithering around on her part in reporting it to the police & you have to ask yourself how serious is her rape claim but yet there was an awful lot of megaphoning in the media.
I worked in the Australian Federal Parliament and you are correct about it being full of Machiavellian operatives.
Jezabel in this case.
This issue will go as far as Albanese, who, it seems, was aware it would be good to politicize this allegation. Two Million bucks ? Our money !!!!
Highins got 3mil I think.
I don't buy anything Higgins is trying to sell.
It’s very telling that in the latest released audio from the Wilkinson interview, he partner said he had asked her what she wanted out of it and she had told him “ for it to be as hard for him to get a job from now on as me and best case scenario senator Reynolds” not justice or anything of that sort. Her ultimate goal was for Reynolds to get sacked and Lehman to have a tough time getting a job ever again in her words.
#JusticeForBruce
I'm very interested in what Claire thinks of Lidia Thorpe.
I doubt she's her cup of tea
She talks about Lidia in yesterday's column in The Australian: www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/why-going-to-police-is-still-the-best-hope-for-assault-victims/news-story/dbbb8317dc798468fca528d020599b32
Look it is obvious.... She and Bruce went to Parliament House to discuss the latest trends in embroidery.
Sex was the furthest thing from their minds.
What is this? i thought Australians have had enough of the "Amber Heard" behavior!
BH should be in jail.
Higgins now playing the political game of divisiveness based on her prejudice and willingness to do just about anything in respect to powerplays for her own personal benefit.
This Case shows that Woman and Men can't work together
Where are those paragons of integrity, the teals, in this matter? I've not heard a squeak from any of them? -Neil Baird
And what about the medias role in making public on front pages of allegations people lives are ruined,
I love a good, intelligent, balanced discussion. Thanks!
At the forsaken meet up for drinks earlier that evening was a tinder hubby that Higgin invited, lucky fella got home safe.
Why the security never checked all night after watching 1 of the 2 intruders leaving within an hour.
Why higgin did not get a doctor's report, why were the clothes and couch not checked for dna as in Bill Clinton's saga, instead of "I think and assume".
Really enjoyed the considered discussion
Thank you!
There are two things I'd love to know about this case. 1. Was there evidence of the work he claimed he carried out?
2. Where were her clothes located when she was found?
I want to know why she lied so often that the Police said it shouldnt go to trial. Plus she stole the Ministers jacket from her wardrobe and wore it next morning yet said she got it from a second hand bin. Why lie about that. She cant help herself. She lied about a lot of other stuff as well. She said the minister never had a photo taken with her because the minister hated her yet there are many photos of them together. LIAR LIAR. She cant help herself.
I Feel sorry for real victims of rape.
Feel sorry for Bruce I hope he can get on with his life ,as for Brittany Higgins she should be made to pay that money the taxpayer money back and good Riddens to her😠😠😠as for ALBO shame on him 😡
@@jeanettewellman9398 Tanya Plibersek was on channel 7 when Bruce finally come out and gave his versions of of what happened, she was asked by the host whether she saw the program, she answered no she didn’t need to, well there you go she had already made her mind up that he was guilty.
BH should be in jail.
😆MEN are the REAL victims of FALSE rape claims. DON'T portray wo-MEN as the victims of this agenda, REAL rape is less than 2% over 98% of rape claims are LIES. wo-MEN are 'NOT' the victims of this , MEN are!
Her lawyers tried hard to win her case not because they’re concerned about her but because they are concerned about their own agenda and trying hard to prove they are top lawyers and will win no matter how false the allegations were! I only hope there are still good lawyers out there searching for truth “ONLY”!
Just as Lisa Wilkinson is ONLY concerned about herself. An equal Narcissist to Higgins
Camile Paglia actually said if you're at a frat party and a young man invites you to his room, and you go, you've consented to sex.
Wow! I have never heard women talking in such a measured, balanced and fair manner. However, much of what needs to be discussed regarding these important issues, enjoys perpetual shade due to the fact that most western women are firstly: regimentally educated with feminist ideology which they unquestionly accept, and secondly: are unable to accept that they don't really understand what it's like to live as a man (even though claim to and genuinely believe that they do).
Imagine a world where men can take back control of their sexuality for example, via purpose-developed drugs. This would benefit men greatly (and incidentally may be on the horizon), but how would women fare in a world where they are excluded from interactions with men due to natuarally occuring differences and removal of the impetus for wanting to pair-bond? It's entirely possible, but is it a place that secures humanity's future?
Conversations such as this are rare and clearly painful to accept if you believe that *your* behaviour is not the problem. Clearly feminists are motivated by misandry and aren't seeking solutions, far from it, the victim narrative is a convenient excuse to explain underperformance in a number of areas, e.g. "I don't get promoted at work because the patriarchy conspire to oppress me". Perhaps the best person for that job was a man.
BINGO! SPOILER ALERT: Cosby & Weinstein were FRAMED as well. So was Danny Matterson! ALL $Metoo accussers are menopausal B actresses looking for clout
Great scam and the beauty is if and when these me too hypoocrites get caught nothing happens go girl.
As a older man, 73, it’s heartening to hear such a balanced discussion of the male/female relationship psyche as opposed to the bias and modern stereotyping of what is acceptable.
Thank you :)
Great discussion.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 📰 *The podcast discusses the Brittany Higgins scandal, which involved sexual assault allegations in Australia's Parliament House during the **#MeToo** movement.*
01:09 🚓 *The allegations led to questions in the Australian Parliament about what the government knew and how they handled the case, creating a political scandal.*
02:42 📝 *A mistrial occurred during the legal proceedings, and there's controversy about the police's handling of the case due to lack of evidence.*
04:19 📱 *Text messages between Brittany Higgins and others show efforts to publicize her allegation in Parliament, raising questions about potential conspiracies.*
09:20 ⚖️ *The discussion touches on the importance of the presumption of innocence and the dangers of "believe all women" as a slogan.*
21:42 👩👦👦 *The conversation also addresses the need to protect children from sexual assault and highlights that it's not just a gendered crime, emphasizing the importance of evidence and reporting.*
27:42 🧐 *Sex ratios can influence social dynamics, and having more women than men can change the dating and interaction dynamics.*
28:36 😬 *Screenshotting texts on dating apps has made men more cautious about what they say, leading to increased awkwardness.*
30:01 👫 *Understanding and having empathy for male sexuality can help interpret communication signals from men more accurately.*
31:12 😔 *Compassion is important, especially between the sexes, to bridge the gap of understanding and trust.*
33:05 💪 *Victimhood culture can be detrimental to women as it can lead to perceiving themselves as victims and hinder risk-taking, while men may become more resilient in response.*
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I know 2 men, who on seperate cases, were accused of R@pe. The first guy was charged, then before the case made it to the courts, the charges were dropped, as evidence was found that the allegations were false. The second guy was charged, faced court, and the accuser ultimately admitted the act was consensual. He was found not guilty, yet the allegations is still on his criminal record. It cost him $10s of thousands, to defend himself. I also know of a situaltion where the threat of false allegations were made to a guy over his exgf owing him money. The threat was not followed through, yet the woman in question stated, that the police would believe her because women dont lie. Also please google Sarah-Jane Parkinson, the only woman I have heard of that was actually convicted of false allegations. How about a 100% suppression of SA and R@pe cases, until a guilty verdict has been reached. That way the media, and certain movements, cant destroy innocent lives. Lisa W has proven that perjury and contempt of court, is not taken seriouly
Yes people don't realise accusations made to police and reach court, even if found to be false, stay on your record for at least 10 years. I knew a guy that was refused a taxi licence due to false accusations that were dropped in court 9 years prior to his licence application on the grounds he had a "criminal record".
I feel very conflicted in this conflict. I would be really interested in hearing the full unedited audio that was leaked as I think that would really give a deep insight to what is going on.
After listening to the first ten minutes of the audio between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard there was so much there that you could figure out what was going on just listening to the way they spoke to each other, verbal body language etc.
Do you know where I can find the audio? If you want to keep it private feel free to message it to me. I would be truly grateful :)
Thank you!
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If you listened to what Weinstein & Cosby's accussers said, you would know THEY ALL LIED as well.
She admitted she lied twice today. 30/11
Really interesting.
I thought this was going to be the worst thing that I've ever clicked on, but, it was fair and balanced. Kudos 👍
Thank you!
Hashtag for the new era: #Distrustallwomen. Especially in the workplace.
You don't have to cut to every head nod.
brittany you proved bruce right when you running after security after him shoes in hand mind you knew where and what you were doing you knew what you about to do and got caught out feel for boyfriend
Well done . Clarity of thought wins the day. Thanks
The feminist movement became highly successful and with that came a lot of power.
Power is force that is hard to control and can easily get corrupted if not handled carefully.
LAUGH OUT LOUD! The fEMINIST CULT was ALWAYS CORRUPTED. wo-MEN'S suffrage itself was evil.
Peoples identities should be kept confidential in al criminal cases until a final verdict is reached.
The untold damage a false allegation can have on a persons life must be mitigated.
her last prediction was rubbish. The pressure on men is not going to drive them to be more successful, it is going to drive them to give up and think the juice and worth the squeeze.
I really enjoyed this. I wish more people saw this.
Very interesting conversation. Thanks
thanks for watching :)
There are bad people out there that will take advantage, naive to think otherwise.
“…Sailors knew Sirens would sing;
from rocks off the cliffs by the sea…”
-The Midnight (Crystalline)
JUSTICE FOR BRUCE!
good video ladies
Wow, just wow!
'Be live in all women" is bad just because of the some women might get accused too?
Zero empathy for the men who are falsely accused!
Well done to both presenters
Why was there no cctv camera on the floor they went to?
Notice how quickly they fell back into seeing assault through the gendered lens!
Sexual abuse is motivated by power. That is what professionals say.
Why I accept this: the number of man who are seduced by illegitimate sex is much much bigger than the man who act on it.
And why go for week children instead of older women because it is power exercised by very cowered people
There is absolutely no excuse for sexual abuse.
But not all risks are aqually risky and every human being male or female will pay a price for being presumptuous when they take a greater risk than they should
Love you two, keep it up!
7:40 thank you, 100% agree
I never thought I would hear females being so honest about men being accused by women. If a man is accused of a crime by a woman he is then branded guilty. They have both lost their jobs but only one received a payout shouldn't the both of them be I titled to a payout. For all of his life he will be known as a rapist, his employability is shot, but he is not guilty. The level of entitlement that women seem to have is beyond belief. How do any male find a partner that you can trust, where you are not going to be accused of something that has not happened. Men walk a very tight line.
In Australia we rely on hard evidence, physical evidence and not just witness testimony. So if you're dealing with a perpetrator that's managed to cover all their tracks don't bother going to the police or reporting because it's your word against theirs and you may have a defamation case on your hands and could also impact your career. Although lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. Media plays a significant role in being able to sway public opinion. If enough of these high profile cases are found to be false allegations woman, who have a real case, could fear being perceive as liars. Claire stated that there are a lot of statistics and activist claims around sexual assault that she's not sure are entirely reliable but bases most of her discussion around these unreliable statistics? I guess we need to get some statistics on the age of the perpetrators as it seems we have more unreliable stats on the victim than we do on the perpetrators to tell if these assaults are based on sex or power. If the perpetrators are old men, for example that can't even get an erection, then it makes no sense that it would be based on sex. Hitting on teens could also mean it's about power, as they are more vulnerable and an easier target than hitting on a woman in her 40s.
Terrible reckless advice.
Always go to the police if you are raped. At the least get a rape kit to prove that inter course even occurred.
@@ragebait988 yes rage, in the case of rape, I would agree but I was commenting with regard to assault. As a women, I was assaulted at work (local Government) and the perpetrator did it when I was in a place of isolation with no witnesses about. Obviously, a perpetrator is going to be very calculated as to when they strike. It would have been my word against his making it hard to prove. Feeling unsafe I had to give up that job which cost me in loss of wages and the inconvenience of having to find another job.
Aussie's have a relatively high opinion of their pollies? Really?:) Where is that coming from?
And our justice system is world gold standard?:)
Where is that coming from?
Lots of data here to show how Australia is one of the least corrupt countries in the world ourworldindata.org/trust
How bad are other countries' politicians if people think Australian politicians are honest and free from corruption? 😂😂😂
@@Quillette Ta.
@@multioptioned That was my first thought. I suppose there are two variables at play, though.
(A) How corrupt governments actually ARE.
(B) How corrupt the public PERCEIVES them to be.
It is possible the Aussie public is above the global average for gullibility.:)
If you read my earlier comment you will understand why I became interested in the claims of feminist activists. Regarding the comment in the video (12:58) that "There's a lot of static statistics and activist claims around sexual assault that I am not sure are entirely reliable."
A "rape crisis on campus" mantra was imported from the United States. The human rights commission spent a million dollars on an investigation and found there was no such crisis, even though it counted cases such as being stared at on public transport while students were travelling to the university, and the offender was not a student.
Bettina Arndt, a commentator on these matters did a tour of campuses to publicise the findings. She was subjected to a campaign of harassment and intimidation for doing so, with riot police being called to the University of Sydney. The media wrongly claimed that Arndt was campaigning against the findings of the Commission, showing that the journalists had not bothered to find out what either the Commission or Arndt actually said.
Similarly, regarding the feminist campaign on family violence which portrays women and children as solely the victims of male violence. I have tried to comment to newspaper articles on statistics from sources such as the Australian Institute of Criminology which show that women are as likely to initiate violence as men, although being physically weaker they do less damage and that women are more likely than men to be child abusers and the person most likely to kill a child is the mother. So children are not most at danger from mum's boyfriend, they are most at risk from mum. Not all victims of former or present intimate partner homicide are women. Half are men. But these facts must not see the light of day.
So if these statistics seem unblelievible, that is why.
Thanks for the interesting talk. I had not thought about Brittany Higgins in a three into three instinctual contest because it seemed to hard solidify an impression until you mentioned the three dark traits. I understood the three instincts and six instinctual variants were in play and that sensing thinking and feeling at the instinctual level was a driving factor in the Brittany Higgins personal saga. Now my thought are Brittany Higgins may have been struggling within between nine components of a three into three dynamic of mind that stem from the instinctual level.
The nine dynamics being, ( Faith in humanity, Narcissism and Sensing, Humanism, Machiavellianism and Feeling, Kantianism, Psychopathy and Thinking.)
Mind must always deal with the three factor of ( Positive, Negative and Neutral) and express its self though the nine energies underpinning type, that is all part of relating as a human with other humans and the external world from our own internal inner world of thoughts.
Confusion and anger with these Nine light and dark involuntary components of mind may have lead Miss Higgins to form a pathological saga that has advanced her life's narrative socially and financially.
Brittany seems to wish to inform educate and influence the nine energies of Type and eighteen Egoic Mind Sets by becoming a public personality and influencer and paid professional speaker.
I think Brittany Higgins operates at the level of imbalance and fears the foreshadowing of things to come. The Foreshadowing of things to come seems to be generated from Brittany's Intuition in play, her first function of four. ( Intuition, Feeling, Sensing and Thinking). Brittany's own Intuition maybe the overcompensating factor that is driving a complex narrative at the instinctual level of her own direct cognition.
let use all gather sticks and follow the medieval tradition of witch burning. Thanks Claire and Zoe.
Overall pretty balanced, except where you said that "Chivalry is not dead", sorry but #MeToo has killed it stone dead. I work in a female dominated workplace and I am nothing but professional and who is there first goes first, the woman next to me is my competitor for the next job, they don't get any different treatment to that of a bloke. I don't care about the gender, although with their gender comes higher risk to you as a bloke. You only get additional politeness "Chivalry" if you want to call it that only because they were kind or courteous to my neutral actions first and I then will reciprocate. I will not give additional politeness unless equivalent energy is given first. You are right though "There is a lot of distrust between the sexes".
Claire, you are refreshingly interesting and smart.
Lets put some cards on the table....Mr.Lehrmann goes out for Friday night drinks...but leaves his house keys in his office..yeah right?!! A witness sees him & Higgins kissing on a couch in the venue...ummm,,,getting warmer. they both enter parliment house via security...on the basis he has to collect something from his office....yeah Right!!. Higgins is seen in the video happily running up the passage way towards the offices' reception area( not too drunk by the look of it). Lehrman says they go to different offices, and he spends 40 minutes in his office, without checking on if she needs a lift home...yeah, right!! His phone is switched off so his at home girlfriend can't contact him...funny about that!! Higgins manages to get naked on the ministers couch all by herself ...yeah, right!! She has a boyfriend also, who would not be too pleased to learn that she had it off with Lehrman. She flakes, he leaves...end of story...ALMOST... he gets fired, she crys rape to act innocent and keep her job. .....Stone the bloody crows.....and everyone believes each of their stories. ...and at the end of all this bullshit, Higgins gets a 2-3 mill payout on just an "allegation...and he gets sent to Coventry. This shit has to be uncovered, and both of their partners can see the real truth and take appropriate actions. A naughty, after Friday night drinks, certainly has put many in a spin,huh?!!
She was also on a tinder date that night in the pub on video footage but he bailed on her later.
Excellent Comment,thank you.
The problem is women think with Thier Virginia
Weird comment.
Wow. This is excruciatingly tedious.
Thank you for pushing through the excruciating tedium and taking the time to leave a comment.
@@Quillette Oh lass - what a response. Gave me a good titter.
@@Quillette Just trying to help.
@@Poopy1960 Thank you
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brittany fruad in any goverment is jail time
Great rack claire
What a load of inarticulate waffle
Thanks Anne
I suspect they had consensual sex, as far as he was concerned - but I would imagine he was used to taking advantage of highly intoxicated women.
I think she probably realised she was just being used, wished she hadn't taken part - either half way through, or afterwards.
Mind you, being so drunk, you sometimes have to accept that you've put yourself in a situation where you've put yourself at risk.
They are both to blame, as far as I can see. If you get legless with colleagues from work, and have sex, you're an idiot, waiting for something to go wrong.
Leaving her naked and drunk, in an empty office was mean.
He also ran the risk of being accused of rape, by taking advantage of drunk women, in this way.
He was very disrespectful and selfish, to leave her there, and not make sure she got home ok.
Another thought I had, was if she'd been drugged with a date rate drug. I think that's quite possible, and that would totally make it rape.
What are you two doing? What was happening when 2 walk into Parliament House after drinks on a Friday night and only one leaves. Smoke and fire Ask your boy about this extremely poor behaviour
@@JimO-ob9ny Let me think…..
Was she engaged at the time and if so might that be one more good reason for saying no?
CUT THE DISCLAIMER! THERE WAS >NO rape!!!!!!
Boring
Thanks David
Great comment David, I learnt a lot.
Ok. The blonde is an Extremely bad communicator. It’s like listening to a 13 year old teenager
@@DavidSmith-tn9qqIt’s probably healthier to just switch off than comment that it’s boring.
@@Claudia-es8jv probably healthier for you to ignore my comment but here we are.