Same for me regarding Glorious "pro" mice that are wireless, I also get the sensor skipping after just standing still for a second. Series One Pro, Model D Pro, Model D 2 Pro all have these issues. What's interesting is that I borrowed my friends Series One Pro and that one also issues but he never has any issues. It's probably something to do with hardware combability since his mouse works seamless it only happens on my PC.
I have the same issue with my series one pro and i suspect that as well. My primary suspect is the motherboard but it's still not an excuse for Glorious especially when my $40 wireless mouse doesn't have skipping and therefore performs better. The other thing that sucks is that they don't seem to be providing anymore support for mice from The Forge, so they may never update the firmware again.
the model d- was my first wireless mouse 2 years ago and i had the same issue, lost so many games on valorant with it now i'm happy with my atlantis mini
I do not usually type comments to anything. But this is the most unprofessional, pointless and stupid tierlist I have ever seen in my life amongst any tierlists. Sorry.
@@mclama1139 He put a Razer product in the S tier right off the go. That's all you need to know. I have the Basilisk v3, it's fucking awful and feels dollar store quality. He then proceeds to put the Pulsar X2H in B with the exact same optical switches as the v3. Completely garbage.
I generally agree with these rankings but I don't understand why you've put a 112g behemoth, the Razer Basilisk V3 pro, in S-tier if you say it is your "work" mouse? I thought this tier list was for GAMING mice? lol
This is singularly the worst tier list I've ever seen. Basilisk in S tier and hts+ 4k in "the bin". With hsk pro in B tier? Have you even used any of these?
@@user-fc1kv7oy1cStill peak, didn't even talk about pros and other people watch these videos too, causes bias icl this is the worst vid yet, sure jim is a prick but the amount of detail on each mouse that he 'doesn't like' here is shocking (in a bad way)
I just recently got myself the pulsefire haste 2 wireless and so far no complaints with it at all, it's great shape for me super comfortable coating, it may be a little bit heavier than the last mouse I used which was the atlantis og v2 but the small difference doesn't affect me. I'm the same as you haven't noticeds any delay in at all since using it and it's main mouse. Keep up the great videos my good sir, looking forward to seeing what mice you revew in the coming year
Hi i have the Original Pulsefire haste and in terms of Size, Shape and all the buttons its the perfect mouse for me. The only thing that bothers me, is the Sensor. The mouse disconnects randomly (its a -Wired- mouse) and sometimes has Spinout issues. Wireless would also be nice. So is the Haste 2 wireless worth it? Some say it has awful input delay and stuff, have you experienced anything of that yet? The pulsefire haste sadly needs to be replaced. Thanks
The other option would be the Vaxee XE wired, cause its the same shape and seems to be a hell of a mouse, but the weight and the cable makes me unsure. The wireless would be perfect, but in my Country its 150€ so its kinda expensive😬
I find it a bit weird to put the EC-CW into C-Tier, let alone D-Tier when the Vaxee AX is in S-Tier. Both are roughly the same weight with the same great built quality (maybe a very slight edge to the AX) and while the EC is overpriced so is the AX. Sure it tends to be a few buck cheaper on occasion but you can get them for the same price most of the time. Both have a fantastic coating, the EC is going for a chalky the AX is going for a bit more of a soft touch feeling and both are very grippy, I can't really see how one would be better than the other beyon personal preference. I wouldn't even say the scrollwheel on the AX is necesarily better. Both have very nice tactile wheels but the EC's has a much better click. I guess scrolling on the EC is louder, which for some reason matters to some people but even if you care about that it's at best a toss up. The AX technically has a better sensor but since we're talking about a 3370 vs a 3395 that doesn't matter either. I could see it being one tier lower based on the sensor and the slightly higher price, but 4 tiers lower for a mouse that ticks pretty much all the same boxes seems crazy to me.
he just put a GAMING MOUSE on S-Tier in a GAMING MOUSE tierlist and then says "I dont play games with it regulary, this is my work mouse" so yeah this tierlist is stupid af
The problem with mice is that you cant try them out before you buy. For exp, when i need a new mouse a bought the vaxee zygen np-01s the dimensions on paper looked great but soon as i bought it i was like nope not for me. Ill love to go to the shop and try them all out. In the uk theres no where like this, at least where i live.
XM2WE why C? U just told something like its "generic", but what is the actual complain? Like, what is bad on it? If u like hard switches (subjective) its the best for feeling, best coating on the market, very good skates, like u dont need to swap them at all, so it seems its just well above average, at least an A as i see.
I would put the Darmoshark M3 to A tier, as the mouse itself had decent internal specs and has no creaks when squeezed, plus its one of those mouse that is very accommodating to people with big hands
I'm in the process of getting a new mouse. The Darmoshark M3S Pro called my attention because of the things that you mentioned related to the internals. Is it a decent share for a medium size palm hand user or should I look some other options? Can it be a daily driver mouse for work?
@@Berecutecu and did you end up getting it? My former mouse(viper ultimate) is having issues and I'm looking for a new one atm, but I really don't feel like spending over 100€ again, so looking at how more budget options are lookin this year
Why is logitech superlight in B tier? Is it only because of the micro usb? Because I have just watched your review of it and you said it was amazing 😮 so why is it not at least A tier?
so 80gr vaxxee is better for you then the superlight? with his 95h buttery life and 57gr? and with this amazing shape.. man something is wrong with your tier list@@DiamondLobbyReviews
@@DiamondLobbyReviews I understand that, but do those new mice make superlight worse? Can't it be S tier with them? I'm choosing my new mouse now picking between superlight and pulsefire haste 2, and I thougt superlight would surely be better.. this list confused me about that a little
I find this tier list interesting. The Endgame OP1 8K got insane praise and is looked at as the best mouse on the market right now, the Endgame XM2 is just a bigger version of the OP1 8K. It should be similar in performance. Maybe the OP1 8 K and XM2 was not out when this video was released?
Just ordered a Waizowl Cloud to replace my ROG Harpe Ace (big enough hands that anything smaller does not work with my lazy claw grip). Review on that one soon?
does hyperx pulsefire haste 2 wireless good? i read some reviews at reddit that they mention their app are not good and has lag input...does that lag input really noticeable?
buy the wired version, the cable is not noticeable, it is very very light, for me it is the best mouse I have had GPX, g502, Logi pro gaming mouse and up to 1, now I may buy the up to 2 wired because GPX that I bought a long time ago 2 months I'm not convinced, I have a claw grip and my hand measures 18.5 cm x 9.5 cm, so I'm not used to gpx and it's easier for me to make flicks with Haste.
I respect the list but the G Pro being so low surprised me. I would have to say on a performance level these mice just feel and work great. Never a hiccup in performance as you'd expect. HOWEVER, the scroll wheel is a plaguing issue on these mic even into the Superlight 2.... In just over 1 year I've had 3 warranty claims on my mice combined. Terrible design on the scroll wheel. FWIW, the G Pro SL2 is slightly better in every area (except scroll wheel). The button clicks are an improvement for me as the SL1 was sooo light I accidentally right click all the time. The SL2 solved that along with providing a better feel overall. It's about 5% better in every way. Not a night and day difference and I can easily swap between the 2 and not really think about it. I just bought Zowie U2 can't wait.
Vaxee no doubt. They are some of the tankiest mice, best bang for the buck, have some of the best ergos, have multiple options for ergos & colors. Are you left-handed then I would suggest the XE. If you are right handed then the Np-01 if you use relaxed claw or relaxed palm, or Np-01s if you have small hands or use an aggressive claw or fingertip grip. If you use strictly palm grip then Outset AX. I just bought a yellow wired NP-01 and I can't wait to get it. The only reason I didn't get the wifi b/c I am an EMF phobe. I was very tempted to get the wireless version but health concerns... IMO Vaxee is much better than the Basilisk.
@@UltimateEnd0 i have relaxed claw i think but i use a g403 atm which is apparently similiar to the outset AX. considering this u still think the np-01 would suit me better? also i heard the wired and wireless version of outset ax have slightly different feeling clicks/switches. would this b the same for np-01 wired/wireless?
Hello, I'm someone who just used 2 mouses (X7 and DM1) who's looking to buy a new one, money isnt a problem finnaly and the goal being a new mouse for CS2 competitive. So I did my research and the PRO's must of them use the logitech pro x superlight 2, and some already use the VAXEE. So why do they use logitech pro x superlight 2 if u say they are D tier? I actually was debating between those two, but saying D tier for the logitech isnt kinda to much? I mean they are the pro's right?
I was wondering this as well. For a couple years running, the superlight is hands down is overwhelmingly the preferred mouse by professional fps players, who arguably require the absolute best from mice.
I have the Pro X Superlight 1 from Logitech and after 1 year I begin to suffer from the double click issue, it's so annoying. I will buy the Razer Deathadder V3 Pro or the Viper V2 Pro next.
@@DiamondLobbyReviews yeah I got used to shape and now it feels amazing. I use skates that include in package instead of dots + side grip tape that included as well. Only possible downside is battery life. But I don't care about plug in my mouse once in 2 days
Is the scroll wheel on the EC2-CW the same as the one on the EC2-C? Because I adore that wheel for gaming personally. It’s like clicking a button when I scroll and the middle click is clean/never scrolls the wheel by mistake on my -C. To each their own I spose.
It's a bit more tactile. I honestly don't know why people are complaining about it, it has one of the best middle clicks I've ever used and the scrolling is tactile and not too light, not too heavy.
@@Antares-dw9iv Yeah the EC2-C wheel is my favorite all time. Love it. If Zowie ever puts out an official EC1.5 / EC2L it’s my end game. Sadly I find the EC2 a bit too small for my hands while the EC1 is a bit too big so RIP. Love their mice though
Thank you for the effort, but I need to say it. I completely dissagree with almost everything starting budget mice like Attackshark and Glorious in D\E tier and dont want to sound rude but Basilisk V3 Pro in S tier is an insult
The Asus ROG was on sale for 100 and i was about to buy it over the Razer viper v3 pro. But now that i know that its several levels less idk if it makes sense hmmm
no, I re-used it for my top5 of 2023 video and my thoughts are the same. I talk about why in that video but basically the switches are just too stiff for me to get on with.
@@DiamondLobbyReviews got it. Thanks, would you say that maybe the large version of the pulsar XV3 is the closest thing to a G703 ultralight? I know the sprime is a smaller version, but I need at least the same size.
Could you please advice me on a mouse to swap my g703? Should be something lighter and without deathadder slop at the back as I prefer relaxed claw grip? Thanks in advance.
I think people looking at the S-tier should seriously look at the Vaxee mouse and not the Basilisk which is more of Diamonds based opinion. The Vaxee mice will work for everybody while Basilisk is great for people who want a thumb holder and a VERY stable and heavy mouse.
Hey! Idk if you will see this but if you could review the Bloody A70 I would seriously appreciate it. I personally use this mouse and think it is fantastic, and is my favorite mouse I have ever used (I have a fairly decent collection) it’s unique in its weight however
The pinned comment kills me! 😂 I've had so much trouble with so many Razer products I have an instant bias against any reviews that put them high on lists. Trying to figure out if I will like the D 2 Pro...
Just gonna say didn’t even watch the video but I just recently switch from the original Logitech super light to the finalmouse ultralight x and it is the best decision I have ever made. I am so much better maybe placebo since I bought it for 300 buuuut it just feels more responsive and overall just a better mouse. IMO
Was quite surprised to see the Basilisk so high up, I really loved the shape of my Basilisk for work and even for shooter games. Keep up the great content :)
terrible list the attack shark x3 does not perform or feel cheap lol i feel like the quality on the mouse is actually very nice besides the part on how after a little while it becomes a little glossy
actually did you know that attack shark and dermoshark mice are manufactured in the same warehouse, Its pretty stupid of him to place them in different tiers unless u look at their softwares.
Fine tierlist but the reasoning/commentary is abysmal Like this isn't a "how good is this mouse for gaming" commentary but rather a "I held them in my hand blindfolded and I rank them how I vibed"
i love my g pro x superlight 1 more than my Lamzu thorn and I even have my thorn paired with the 4k dongle ! The only reason is cause my Lamzu thorn does a little stutter when gaming , its not a huge stutter but its something my superlight never makes lol. My thorn doesnt stutter when its wired tho wich is weird so it has to be the 4k dongle. i purchased the lamzu thorn from one of your past reviews and its a really good mouse just wish it didnt stutter with the 4k dongle. I still gave this video a thumbs up because now i wanna purchase one of the Vaxee mice lol😊
I purchased the Lamzu Thorn due to your review. I absolutely love it! Dont mind the switches. Its the coating that I initially didnt like (black version). Ninjitsu Sora 4K seems intriguiging. Seems I may found my Logitech G303 Shroud replacement.
Same, wasn't pleased with the "pingpong ball" coating as it has been described at first but it grew on me. Feels super comfortable for someone who used to main a basilisk and the clicks feel wonderful compared to the super light (similar price alternative I was going to buy, but the side mouse buttons were mushy and nasty imo)
how do the switches/clicks compare to g403? i loved that version for its super light/snappy clicks. did they only get inspired by the shape or for switches too?
All these fancy buttons and RGB Lights , wierd or not , people who are willing to spend hundreds of dollars buy an expensive gaming mouse. Wel , i play at pro level and all i can tell you is that you do'nt need that kinda stuff to play wel . Are you looking for a decent gaming mouse ? re you looking to get your gaming performance to a higher level?? wel , than you should follow the next 4 steps . 1- Buy a mouse which suits yer gripstyle and has the right shape . 2- get your focus on how consistent the sensor is in tracking. Note : Consistent in tarcking and accurate, are 2 diff stories . New generation sensors are accurate. but not all of them are consistent in tracking. and believe me this has nothing to do with polling rate. (polling rate between 500 and 1000 HZ is all you need and good enough). It's the sensor and how compatible the software is with the OP system. That's the most important thing. 3- Get yourself a decent mouse pad . 4- practice , practice , and practice . I’ve tried many diff brands and finally ended up with a steelseries rival 3 wierd one which did cost me about 35 box. never seen a mouse like the rival 3, so precise and accurate and most importantly , so consistent in accurate tracking. at the end of the day it's a personal preference. But keep one thing in your mind, A perfect gaming mouse is not necessarily the most expensive one .
We seem to have slightly differing opinions & therefore this is the worst day of my life.
It should be. Everyone knows I'm always right.
My subjective opinions are absolute and your opinions are objectively wrong in my opinion. Therefore, I am always correct.
As someone who is always correct I understand the frustration you people feel.
I can't take you seriously bc all your top picks are razer
@@cairosun4441 LOL
1:32 Basilisk V3 Pro
2:00 G-Wolves HT-S Plus 4K
2:27 Fantech Aria XD7
2:49 Lamzu Atlantis
3:11 Glorious D 2 Pro / O 2 Pro
3:51 Glorious I 2
4:02 Glorious O 2
4:28 G-Wolves HSK
4:51 Asus ROG Harpe Ace
5:28 Razer Cobra Pro
5:50 Zowie EC-CW
6:13 Vaxee Mice
7:06 Razer Deathadder V3 Pro
7:18 Razer Viper V2 Pro
8:20 Lamzu Thorn
8:40 Pulsar Xlite V3
9:06 Pulsar Xlite V3 eS (Pro Version)
10:09 HyperX Haste 2 / Wireless
10:33 Lamzu Maya
11:01 Ninjutso Sora 4K
11:38 Darmoshark M3
11:54 Attackshark X3
12:06 Endgame Gear XM2we
12:37 Fantech Helios II Pro XD3V3
13:04 Pulsar X2V2
13:20 Pwnage StormBreaker
14:12 Finalmouse Ultralight X
15:14 Logitech G Pro X Superlight (GPX)
15:31 Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 (GPX2)
16:09 Rearrange list
17:30 FINAL TIER LIST CONCLUSION
Thx
do u recomand me get atlantis mini or gpx2 ?
Any particular reason you haven't reviewed the Beast X? Would be interesting to see it ranked next to these.
thanks
Thanks. You're the real hero.
Worst tier list in a while
Which one is the best one? Tier list I mean
@@victora.sifuentes9262 boardzy
@@victora.sifuentes9262 boardzy has good ones
Agreed absolute L list
@@victora.sifuentes9262boardzy has a pretty good one he’s a mouse yter
Same for me regarding Glorious "pro" mice that are wireless, I also get the sensor skipping after just standing still for a second. Series One Pro, Model D Pro, Model D 2 Pro all have these issues. What's interesting is that I borrowed my friends Series One Pro and that one also issues but he never has any issues. It's probably something to do with hardware combability since his mouse works seamless it only happens on my PC.
I have the same issue with my series one pro and i suspect that as well. My primary suspect is the motherboard but it's still not an excuse for Glorious especially when my $40 wireless mouse doesn't have skipping and therefore performs better. The other thing that sucks is that they don't seem to be providing anymore support for mice from The Forge, so they may never update the firmware again.
hey Maxim! big fan :D ! what mouse/s are u using personally btw?
the model d- was my first wireless mouse 2 years ago and i had the same issue, lost so many games on valorant with it
now i'm happy with my atlantis mini
what a clown list
@@junaedhossain5521 bro wrote that from home and felt tough 🤡
I do not usually type comments to anything. But this is the most unprofessional, pointless and stupid tierlist I have ever seen in my life amongst any tierlists. Sorry.
Thanks mate appreciate the support
agreed. this guy is annoying af
Wtf is an "unprofessional" tier list
Totally agree.
@@mclama1139 He put a Razer product in the S tier right off the go. That's all you need to know. I have the Basilisk v3, it's fucking awful and feels dollar store quality. He then proceeds to put the Pulsar X2H in B with the exact same optical switches as the v3. Completely garbage.
putting glorious at D for an issue that isnt even there anymore seems dumb
you're right all glorious mice should be in the bin
@@BooraadYou should be in the bin for using that profile picture
it took bro 2 minutes to start certified waffler
hahahahaahahahahaha
I generally agree with these rankings but I don't understand why you've put a 112g behemoth, the Razer Basilisk V3 pro, in S-tier if you say it is your "work" mouse? I thought this tier list was for GAMING mice? lol
Because shape is king
This is singularly the worst tier list I've ever seen. Basilisk in S tier and hts+ 4k in "the bin". With hsk pro in B tier? Have you even used any of these?
Almost as if people can have different opinions about products
@@zedIRL what are some good nice under 100?
@@joejojo5966Lamzu Thorn 👍
@@user-fc1kv7oy1cStill peak, didn't even talk about pros and other people watch these videos too, causes bias
icl this is the worst vid yet, sure jim is a prick but the amount of detail on each mouse that he 'doesn't like' here is shocking (in a bad way)
fr how tf hts 4k in the bin 2/6 players played with it on aimlab ready check tournament lol
I think people forget tier lists are supposed to be personal opinions, rather than the holy grail to life lol
... Bro?
Can we get this in a list though or some chapters
The longer the use of GPX 2 the better the switches feel. I was annoyed with the stiffness but after a few weeks of gaming it now feels worlds better
I just recently got myself the pulsefire haste 2 wireless and so far no complaints with it at all, it's great shape for me super comfortable coating, it may be a little bit heavier than the last mouse I used which was the atlantis og v2 but the small difference doesn't affect me. I'm the same as you haven't noticeds any delay in at all since using it and it's main mouse. Keep up the great videos my good sir, looking forward to seeing what mice you revew in the coming year
Hi
i have the Original Pulsefire haste and in terms of Size, Shape and all the buttons its the perfect mouse for me. The only thing that bothers me, is the Sensor. The mouse disconnects randomly (its a -Wired- mouse) and sometimes has Spinout issues. Wireless would also be nice. So is the Haste 2 wireless worth it? Some say it has awful input delay and stuff, have you experienced anything of that yet? The pulsefire haste sadly needs to be replaced.
Thanks
The other option would be the Vaxee XE wired, cause its the same shape and seems to be a hell of a mouse, but the weight and the cable makes me unsure. The wireless would be perfect, but in my Country its 150€ so its kinda expensive😬
I find it a bit weird to put the EC-CW into C-Tier, let alone D-Tier when the Vaxee AX is in S-Tier. Both are roughly the same weight with the same great built quality (maybe a very slight edge to the AX) and while the EC is overpriced so is the AX. Sure it tends to be a few buck cheaper on occasion but you can get them for the same price most of the time. Both have a fantastic coating, the EC is going for a chalky the AX is going for a bit more of a soft touch feeling and both are very grippy, I can't really see how one would be better than the other beyon personal preference. I wouldn't even say the scrollwheel on the AX is necesarily better. Both have very nice tactile wheels but the EC's has a much better click. I guess scrolling on the EC is louder, which for some reason matters to some people but even if you care about that it's at best a toss up.
The AX technically has a better sensor but since we're talking about a 3370 vs a 3395 that doesn't matter either.
I could see it being one tier lower based on the sensor and the slightly higher price, but 4 tiers lower for a mouse that ticks pretty much all the same boxes seems crazy to me.
What dose this "brick of a mouse" do up there (Basilisk V3 Pro)
he just put a GAMING MOUSE on S-Tier in a GAMING MOUSE tierlist and then says "I dont play games with it regulary, this is my work mouse" so yeah this tierlist is stupid af
have you tried WLmouse?
The problem with mice is that you cant try them out before you buy. For exp, when i need a new mouse a bought the vaxee zygen np-01s the dimensions on paper looked great but soon as i bought it i was like nope not for me. Ill love to go to the shop and try them all out. In the uk theres no where like this, at least where i live.
XM2WE why C? U just told something like its "generic", but what is the actual complain? Like, what is bad on it? If u like hard switches (subjective) its the best for feeling, best coating on the market, very good skates, like u dont need to swap them at all, so it seems its just well above average, at least an A as i see.
I would put the Darmoshark M3 to A tier, as the mouse itself had decent internal specs and has no creaks when squeezed, plus its one of those mouse that is very accommodating to people with big hands
I'm in the process of getting a new mouse. The Darmoshark M3S Pro called my attention because of the things that you mentioned related to the internals. Is it a decent share for a medium size palm hand user or should I look some other options?
Can it be a daily driver mouse for work?
@@Berecutecu and did you end up getting it? My former mouse(viper ultimate) is having issues and I'm looking for a new one atm, but I really don't feel like spending over 100€ again, so looking at how more budget options are lookin this year
@@valryu8072 yes, I got it. I have been using it for the last 2 weeks. I really liked it. So, far so good.
WL Mouse Beast X?
every time i got a logitech G Pro X Superlight (3 times white/black/pink) the scroll wheel always ends up becoming all glitchy.
Why is logitech superlight in B tier? Is it only because of the micro usb? Because I have just watched your review of it and you said it was amazing 😮 so why is it not at least A tier?
That review was over 2 years ago, lots of good new mice released since then
so 80gr vaxxee is better for you then the superlight? with his 95h buttery life and 57gr? and with this amazing shape.. man something is wrong with your tier list@@DiamondLobbyReviews
@@user-j9ki7rshape is subjective, some people have mentioned they hate the shape of the gpx. His list is based on his own opinion.
His reasoning in the video is “just cause”. What a doofus
@@DiamondLobbyReviews I understand that, but do those new mice make superlight worse? Can't it be S tier with them? I'm choosing my new mouse now picking between superlight and pulsefire haste 2, and I thougt superlight would surely be better.. this list confused me about that a little
I find this tier list interesting. The Endgame OP1 8K got insane praise and is looked at as the best mouse on the market right now, the Endgame XM2 is just a bigger version of the OP1 8K. It should be similar in performance. Maybe the OP1 8 K and XM2 was not out when this video was released?
Basilisk tier S, lamzu maya C really?
Which one should I buy?
VXE R1 PRO
Attack shark X3 PRO
Redragon M916 PRO
Attack shark is mid. R1 is superb for 25$, although I returned mine because the mice is heavily claw grip oriented
how is Zaopin Z1 PRO 3395 Mouse for fingertip grip users
Just ordered a Waizowl Cloud to replace my ROG Harpe Ace (big enough hands that anything smaller does not work with my lazy claw grip). Review on that one soon?
In my opinion the viper mini is very good for the price.
does hyperx pulsefire haste 2 wireless good? i read some reviews at reddit that they mention their app are not good and has lag input...does that lag input really noticeable?
just get wired its better with 8k pulling rate cable is like a shoe lace u wont even feel it
buy the wired version, the cable is not noticeable, it is very very light, for me it is the best mouse I have had GPX, g502, Logi pro gaming mouse and up to 1, now I may buy the up to 2 wired because GPX that I bought a long time ago 2 months I'm not convinced, I have a claw grip and my hand measures 18.5 cm x 9.5 cm, so I'm not used to gpx and it's easier for me to make flicks with Haste.
I respect the list but the G Pro being so low surprised me. I would have to say on a performance level these mice just feel and work great. Never a hiccup in performance as you'd expect. HOWEVER, the scroll wheel is a plaguing issue on these mic even into the Superlight 2.... In just over 1 year I've had 3 warranty claims on my mice combined. Terrible design on the scroll wheel. FWIW, the G Pro SL2 is slightly better in every area (except scroll wheel). The button clicks are an improvement for me as the SL1 was sooo light I accidentally right click all the time. The SL2 solved that along with providing a better feel overall. It's about 5% better in every way. Not a night and day difference and I can easily swap between the 2 and not really think about it.
I just bought Zowie U2 can't wait.
How is it??
Which one is the bang for the buck? I dont want any optical switches too
Vaxee no doubt. They are some of the tankiest mice, best bang for the buck, have some of the best ergos, have multiple options for ergos & colors. Are you left-handed then I would suggest the XE. If you are right handed then the Np-01 if you use relaxed claw or relaxed palm, or Np-01s if you have small hands or use an aggressive claw or fingertip grip. If you use strictly palm grip then Outset AX. I just bought a yellow wired NP-01 and I can't wait to get it. The only reason I didn't get the wifi b/c I am an EMF phobe. I was very tempted to get the wireless version but health concerns... IMO Vaxee is much better than the Basilisk.
@@UltimateEnd0 i have relaxed claw i think but i use a g403 atm which is apparently similiar to the outset AX. considering this u still think the np-01 would suit me better?
also i heard the wired and wireless version of outset ax have slightly different feeling clicks/switches. would this b the same for np-01 wired/wireless?
Hello, I'm someone who just used 2 mouses (X7 and DM1) who's looking to buy a new one, money isnt a problem finnaly and the goal being a new mouse for CS2 competitive. So I did my research and the PRO's must of them use the logitech pro x superlight 2, and some already use the VAXEE. So why do they use logitech pro x superlight 2 if u say they are D tier?
I actually was debating between those two, but saying D tier for the logitech isnt kinda to much? I mean they are the pro's right?
I was wondering this as well. For a couple years running, the superlight is hands down is overwhelmingly the preferred mouse by professional fps players, who arguably require the absolute best from mice.
What ranking would you give the Zaopin Z2?
I have the Pro X Superlight 1 from Logitech and after 1 year I begin to suffer from the double click issue, it's so annoying. I will buy the Razer Deathadder V3 Pro or the Viper V2 Pro next.
What about the WLMouse BeastX ? Where would you put it ?
i would put it on next years list as they haven't sent me one yet
@@DiamondLobbyReviews yeah I got used to shape and now it feels amazing. I use skates that include in package instead of dots + side grip tape that included as well. Only possible downside is battery life. But I don't care about plug in my mouse once in 2 days
@@YaShKa833 They improved the battery life already.
Is the scroll wheel on the EC2-CW the same as the one on the EC2-C? Because I adore that wheel for gaming personally. It’s like clicking a button when I scroll and the middle click is clean/never scrolls the wheel by mistake on my -C. To each their own I spose.
It's a bit more tactile. I honestly don't know why people are complaining about it, it has one of the best middle clicks I've ever used and the scrolling is tactile and not too light, not too heavy.
@@Antares-dw9iv Yeah the EC2-C wheel is my favorite all time. Love it. If Zowie ever puts out an official EC1.5 / EC2L it’s my end game. Sadly I find the EC2 a bit too small for my hands while the EC1 is a bit too big so RIP. Love their mice though
I boutght the lamzu thorn and i dont understand the optical switch hate, feels super satisfying imo
Weird, my X3 feels more solid than my Lamzu Thorn. xD
I don’t like how the brands are grouped together. Just because they are the same brand doesnt mean they are entirely the same
the Vaxee mice were grouped together because they were all rated in the same tier
What about VXE R1 Pro?
Thank you for the effort, but I need to say it. I completely dissagree with almost everything starting budget mice like Attackshark and Glorious in D\E tier and dont want to sound rude but Basilisk V3 Pro in S tier is an insult
The Asus ROG was on sale for 100 and i was about to buy it over the Razer viper v3 pro. But now that i know that its several levels less idk if it makes sense hmmm
Is the G502 X on a seperate SSS - Tier video?
i know im late, where would you put the dragonfly f1 on this list? im struggling with which mouse to get
a lot of people came around to the superlight 2. Will you do an updated review?
no, I re-used it for my top5 of 2023 video and my thoughts are the same. I talk about why in that video but basically the switches are just too stiff for me to get on with.
@@DiamondLobbyReviews got it. Thanks, would you say that maybe the large version of the pulsar XV3 is the closest thing to a G703 ultralight? I know the sprime is a smaller version, but I need at least the same size.
2:10 i had the same issue, i just put a bit of glue under the battery and glued it back to its default position
I don’t think bros ever felt the x3 w glass skates, it feels perfect and I own a Razer viper ultimate, and Logitech superlight
It's fun to see a creator with a windows watermark screaming to be activated! cheers to the great tier list!
im definitely a superlight 1 S tier kinda guy, been my favorite mouse over the years
Could you please advice me on a mouse to swap my g703? Should be something lighter and without deathadder slop at the back as I prefer relaxed claw grip? Thanks in advance.
Would love to see the WL Mouse Beast X Mini on the next list but great tier list!
I think people looking at the S-tier should seriously look at the Vaxee mouse and not the Basilisk which is more of Diamonds based opinion. The Vaxee mice will work for everybody while Basilisk is great for people who want a thumb holder and a VERY stable and heavy mouse.
Which mouse is the best from A-Tier?
guys need help, should i get Lamzu Atlantis mini 4k or lamzu thorn?
Small hands, claw/fingertip grip -> atlantis mini
Large hands, palm/claw grip -> thorn
just get a super light if you want a wireless mouse or get an op1 8k if you don’t care about wireless.
Hey! Idk if you will see this but if you could review the Bloody A70 I would seriously appreciate it. I personally use this mouse and think it is fantastic, and is my favorite mouse I have ever used (I have a fairly decent collection) it’s unique in its weight however
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I heard a lot about the Haste 2 having some weird dpi shifting mid-game. HAve you experienced that at all?
i own one and i've never had that issue with it
The pinned comment kills me! 😂 I've had so much trouble with so many Razer products I have an instant bias against any reviews that put them high on lists. Trying to figure out if I will like the D 2 Pro...
Anyone know a good small wireless mouse that’s not an orochi v2.
Where zowie U2 fit in this tierlist 😁?
Just gonna say didn’t even watch the video but I just recently switch from the original Logitech super light to the finalmouse ultralight x and it is the best decision I have ever made. I am so much better maybe placebo since I bought it for 300 buuuut it just feels more responsive and overall just a better mouse. IMO
do u like the regular cobra
What happened to the Tecurs mouse?
There is a tape under the harpe ace you have to take off, a lot of people realised it after they already used it for a month 😂
where would razer cobra wired go into?
Guys should i buy the hyperx pulse fire haste or the cooler master 311?
hyper x but the wired one
whats the best mouse under 100 dollars for gaming@@akachris5147
Rocking a cool master m711 and it’s honestly the best
Was quite surprised to see the Basilisk so high up, I really loved the shape of my Basilisk for work and even for shooter games. Keep up the great content :)
terrible list the attack shark x3 does not perform or feel cheap lol i feel like the quality on the mouse is actually very nice besides the part on how after a little while it becomes a little glossy
actually did you know that attack shark and dermoshark mice are manufactured in the same warehouse, Its pretty stupid of him to place them in different tiers unless u look at their softwares.
no rog mouses? like wtf, i have gladius III wireless aimpoint and it is one of the best for 1-3-1 grip that i use
beast x / scyrox ?
Can someone tell me about Corsair mouse? This brand has many gaming mouse styles I like
Overpriced outdated products
pulsar x2h?
Fine tierlist but the reasoning/commentary is abysmal
Like this isn't a "how good is this mouse for gaming" commentary but rather a "I held them in my hand blindfolded and I rank them how I vibed"
i love my g pro x superlight 1 more than my Lamzu thorn and I even have my thorn paired with the 4k dongle ! The only reason is cause my Lamzu thorn does a little stutter when gaming , its not a huge stutter but its something my superlight never makes lol. My thorn doesnt stutter when its wired tho wich is weird so it has to be the 4k dongle. i purchased the lamzu thorn from one of your past reviews and its a really good mouse just wish it didnt stutter with the 4k dongle. I still gave this video a thumbs up because now i wanna purchase one of the Vaxee mice lol😊
some games don't support a 4k hz polling rate, not a fault of the mouse
Death adser v3 pro in B???
It's done by a low skill player, can't expect much from it. He is probably even get paid to arranged those into S tiers 😂
I wish
no steelseries aerox 3 2022 edition.??
Thank you man worst tier list I’ve ever seen so far 🤙🏿
I liked this video as soon as the cobra pro went in the bin 😁
the wireless dongle stopped working for no reason on my basilisk v3 pro. Definitely an S tier mouse though.
Bought the ninjutso sora bcus of your review and love it! Now I have to try one of those Vaxee mice :D
can you try Redragon's newest wireless mouse the K1ING M916 PRO
I purchased the Lamzu Thorn due to your review. I absolutely love it! Dont mind the switches. Its the coating that I initially didnt like (black version). Ninjitsu Sora 4K seems intriguiging. Seems I may found my Logitech G303 Shroud replacement.
Same, wasn't pleased with the "pingpong ball" coating as it has been described at first but it grew on me. Feels super comfortable for someone who used to main a basilisk and the clicks feel wonderful compared to the super light (similar price alternative I was going to buy, but the side mouse buttons were mushy and nasty imo)
You forgot the Wl mouse BeastX
Have you tried ajazz aj199?
Strange Razer Basilisk is S tier but g502x which is the same mouse isnt even on the list
very happy with my pulsar x lite v3 purchase. first ergo mouse and its been great for me so far
The basilisk in a tier is criminal
where would you put the darmoshark m3?
11:38 Darmoshark M3
EC2/3 in B-tier? Now that's a red flag if I've ever seen one.
Rat+8 pro tier 1 S ????
mousepads next? :)
you forgot the ss tier with the op1 8k in it
no rog spatha x ?
Blud might be the nitpicker
I'm surprised you haven't made a review of the sprime pm1 yet, given that they directly cite the g703 as inspiration
they haven't sent me one :(
how do the switches/clicks compare to g403? i loved that version for its super light/snappy clicks. did they only get inspired by the shape or for switches too?
All these fancy buttons and RGB Lights , wierd or not , people who are willing to spend hundreds of dollars buy an expensive gaming mouse.
Wel , i play at pro level and all i can tell you is that you do'nt need that kinda stuff to play wel .
Are you looking for a decent gaming mouse ? re you looking to get your gaming performance to a higher level??
wel , than you should follow the next 4 steps .
1- Buy a mouse which suits yer gripstyle and has the right shape .
2- get your focus on how consistent the sensor is in tracking. Note : Consistent in tarcking and accurate, are 2 diff stories .
New generation sensors are accurate. but not all of them are consistent in tracking. and believe me this has nothing to do with polling rate. (polling rate between 500 and 1000 HZ is all you need and good enough). It's the sensor and how compatible the software is with the OP system. That's the most important thing.
3- Get yourself a decent mouse pad .
4- practice , practice , and practice .
I’ve tried many diff brands and finally ended up with a steelseries rival 3 wierd one which did cost me about 35 box.
never seen a mouse like the rival 3, so precise and accurate and most importantly , so consistent in accurate tracking.
at the end of the day it's a personal preference. But keep one thing in your mind, A perfect gaming mouse is not necessarily the most expensive one .
What about xtrfy m4?