321: Haolonggood Triceratops (好龙谷三角龙) Review 2024

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  • Опубліковано 28 лис 2024

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  • @soreal091987
    @soreal091987 Місяць тому +31

    I do not buy any dinosaur figures until i see your review. Thanks.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +3

      Wow, that is a huge responsibility! 😂😂 But I am delighted that I can contribute in helping you make a decision. Especially if you are in the West, I know these Chinese figures are not cheap!

    • @PrehistoricMenagerie
      @PrehistoricMenagerie 3 дні тому

      @@DinosDragonsironic isn’t it, for years “Chinasaurs” was a pejorative, yet these days the most high quality, accurate and expensive Dinosaur models are made by Chinese companies!

  • @Mildnumber4444
    @Mildnumber4444 Місяць тому +7

    Not only do I think this is Haolonggood's best figure, but I think this surpasses all the competition and is the definitive Triceratops figure on the market, currently. I love the compromise here between a fully cheeked and no cheeks look for the genus. It seems far more plausible than the completely cheekless look on PNSO's figure, in my opinion, while also not going for the more mammalian cheek look that we have seen in the past. Fantastic model and lets hope its a sign of things to come from Haolonggood.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Well said! The compromise is one that will be palatable to all, and having the mouth closed to give us nothing definitive was a smart move. As was the resistance to the temptation of making the jaw articulated!

  • @Jesus-rl9ph
    @Jesus-rl9ph Місяць тому +10

    I have the PNSO triceratops (one of my favorite figures) and the Schleich one (the one with red lines on the spine and frills) but I have always been interested in having the Yoshi specimen. The Eofauna one is beautiful. The Haolonggood one is more than beautiful.
    As an anecdote, a few days ago I was telling a youtuber that I looked at her videos and those of other youtubers to make my purchases. She thanked me and told me that it was just a hobby and that there were other youtubers who made much more professional reviews. She was definitely referring to you 😂

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Lol thank you but I wouldn't dare make such a claim! But I really do have a love for dinosaurs and a love for learning about the science as an adult in a way I could never have done as a kid, and I'm really excited to share my little knowledge with fellow collectors who would care. Thanks for your support! 😁

    • @Jesus-rl9ph
      @Jesus-rl9ph Місяць тому

      @@DinosDragons Very modest of you 😂 I don't know a youtuber so complete in his rewiews 🧐

  • @tmanbloke6535
    @tmanbloke6535 Місяць тому +1

    Hello,I hope all is well.
    I am truly impressed with this Trike.
    Haolongggood has become one of my favorite companies.
    The sculpture, paint application,and design are excellent. Not to mention affordability for such quality.
    My new favorite in my collection.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much! Just had my dental implants in and the pain is finally gone, thanks for asking!
      This is truly a masterpiece and I don't use that word lightly. It has a perfect package of sculpt, paint application, scientific accuracy (at least in proportions and minus the speculative keratinous features), and price.... the perfect choice for most people!
      I am sure you will notice that in hand, yours will look a lot better than in any video. Good choice!

  • @The_PokeSaurus
    @The_PokeSaurus Місяць тому +6

    This just might be the push I needed to start getting Haulonggood figures.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      This would certainly give most people a very hard *shove* in that direction! 😁

  • @SiamSentin3l
    @SiamSentin3l Місяць тому +1

    This review was such a treat! Thanks for pointing out all the details that couldn't be seen from the promo photos!

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      You are most welcome! Even now I am noticing details I wish I had mentioned! It's wonderful work! 😁😁

  • @MrRajithasandaruwan
    @MrRajithasandaruwan Місяць тому +1

    What a pleasant surprise. I think this is the best Haolonggood figure up to date. And this is one of the best figures that came out this year. Haolonggood sets their bar so high and let's see which company will try to challenge them (obviously PNSO, but still). I love both color variants, but this gray version is just out of this world. Hopefully, I will get the chance to buy this someday. Thank you so much, my dear sir. You are the best. 🖤

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for your support as always! Well, as it turns out, I actually had the green but it got separated, and as a result I couldn't compare that here. Both are really good, and if I had to choose I would go for the green.
      But the grey really has a lot of detail that was surprisingly harder to see in the green. What I love most about this one is how minute the scales are, in the limbs especially. Find it strange to 'spoil' it with those huge frill features.

  • @rokugeni2263
    @rokugeni2263 Місяць тому +1

    This figure blows my mind, it's literally a dreamworthy. The quality of the sculpture, the painting and especially the variety of textures that you mentioned leaves me speechless. I have never been so impressed by a massproduced dinosaur model. Usually I settle for one color variant for Haolonggood figures but this is the first time where I hesitate to get both because I'm so amazed. I have never been so happy to consider Triceratops my favorite dinosaur. Thank you for your video which does perfect justice to the quality of this model and which is still as pleasant and informative as usual, keep it up !

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for your kind words! I do my best to point out detail so that people can appreciate their own models even more, or to help them make a decision. Unfortunately my green got delayed, but whicever one you get, I am sure you would be extremely happy with it!

  • @therumbleinthejunglee
    @therumbleinthejunglee Місяць тому +21

    Best triceratops figure out there.

    • @C1ioTavares
      @C1ioTavares Місяць тому +2

      So true

    • @Eustakista
      @Eustakista Місяць тому

      Top 3:
      - haolonggood
      - Kaiyodo Capsule 2022
      - Safari LTD

    • @player21099
      @player21099 Місяць тому

      ​@@Eustakista schleich 2017 top 1

    • @player21099
      @player21099 Місяць тому

      No

    • @Eustakista
      @Eustakista Місяць тому

      @@player21099 is a top about accuracy, schleich one isnt accurate, sorry

  • @PaganPK
    @PaganPK Місяць тому +2

    Just ordered it. It seems to be a great figure. Thanx 4 the review! 😎

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      You are most welcome! By now you have received yours I hope, and you will see it actually looks better in hand than any video can adequately capture!

  • @tharukkus
    @tharukkus Місяць тому +7

    Late?!? It was only announced last week! I ordered immediately (still waiting of course).

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Haha, it was out in China for almost a week already when I shot this!

  • @JL-ux9dk
    @JL-ux9dk Місяць тому +2

    I am waiting for mine to arrive, in my opinion is one of the best figures of the year ,a must have......excellent review!!

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much! This was a real beauty. HLG is not only becoming my favourite of sauropods but ceratopsians as well!

    • @antiantifans1914
      @antiantifans1914 Місяць тому

      ​@@DinosDragonsDo you have any opinions on Rebors Triceratops? I never see anyone mention it. Is it oversized for 1/35?

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Do you mean the "Trident"? I don't have it, but from what I've seen, too big for 1:35. Probably more like 1:30 plus or minus.

    • @antiantifans1914
      @antiantifans1914 Місяць тому

      @@DinosDragons yes I have the Trident version from rebor but I was wondering why no one talks about it when it comes to triceratops models. I figured maybe because it's too big? It seems like an amazing model otherwise.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      @@antiantifans1914 What do you mean? I am sure if I have seen many reviews on it! Here for example.
      ua-cam.com/video/eTGArb-sU1c/v-deo.htmlsi=Uk_r4syPnEn9QuhY

  • @summers7775
    @summers7775 Місяць тому +1

    this is the King Trident we should’ve gotten 😂 I love this figure! Great review as always DD!

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      You are most welcome! Trident definitely has its plus points, but just not the level of accuracy and the 1:35 scale I would like. This one is really amazing!

  • @Eykadinotime
    @Eykadinotime Місяць тому +3

    Es una figura fantástica! Creo que es mi figura favorita de Triceratops y la primera que yo compraré de esta especie 😁 Aunque yo también pienso que las escamas de la gola son enormes 😮Yo había leído en algún comentario de Facebook de Haolonggood que no había evidencia de las escamas de la gola, yo creo que no encontraron las imágenes que tu mostraste 😅
    A pesar de eso, las demás escamas y la pintura de las dos versiones del Triceratops de Haolonggood son hermosas! 😍

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      ¡Me sorprende que no tengas ni siquiera un modelo de Triceratops! Si es así, ¡esta sería una elección fantástica para la primera! 😁
      Lo maravilloso de los dinosaurios es que hay suficiente desconocimiento sobre ellos, que hay mucho espacio para la especulación. Si bien las escamas grandes son especulativas, y la queratina de la nariz también, estoy contento y no soy demasiado exigente con la elección creativa. ¡Este es un hermoso modelo! 😀

  • @thomasmonroe7947
    @thomasmonroe7947 Місяць тому +1

    So, the brief HLG videos of their upcoming Argentinosaurus are amazing. This is the sauropod to knock everything else off the shelf. There will be four color variants, two of which I’m itching to buy. Don’t know what the final price point will be but if it’s in line with the current up scaling of larger figures, it should still be very affordable for what it looks to be. Looking forward to your take on it but I’m already sold.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Well I was sold immediately, but then the ridiculous hard part is the crazy and frankly, lousy representations of colour HLG has shown us in different media. It is so hard to decide which to get, and then praying that it will come out right. I hope that it will be worth the cost, and for many of you, the shipping!

  • @paleo-logica
    @paleo-logica Місяць тому +1

    Una imponente pieza por parte de HG con una pose que, a mi gusto, mejora la que se eligió por PNSO. El texturizado de la piel, aunque de calidad, lo veo tal vez muy agresivo y grande... Cierto que hay registro de piel de este animal, pero no sé hasta que punto la equivalencia en 1:35 está correcta... Me encaja y me parece más natural la del modelo de PNSO. Aunque siempre es bueno tener una versión más de este icónico animal. Para mí, el modelo de Eofauna siempre tendrá su lugar privilegiado. Hablando del modelo de Eofauna, ¿quién te pintó tu figura? Es un diseño muy interesante. Un gran vídeo, amigo, como siempre 😊🙏🏼

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      ¡Ah, un amigo mío hizo eso por mí! Odiaba la pintura original. Pensé que si EoFauna se iba a volver loca, ¡yo me volvería loca con los colores que quiero!
      Creo que las escamas del Triceratops son bastante grandes, especialmente en el área de la cadera. Estoy seguro de que serían más pequeños en 1:35, pero ese es un compromiso que los diseñadores deben hacer para crear texturas interesantes y no ser demasiado aburridos.
      Como dije antes, el que parece respetar más el tamaño real sería EoFauna en el minuto 1:35. Pero, lamentablemente, la gente está acostumbrada a tener escamas en un reptil.

    • @paleo-logica
      @paleo-logica Місяць тому

      @@DinosDragons Sí... Parece que todavía vivimos en los tiempos de los reptiles gigantes... Tienes mucha razón con el de Eofauna, tanto en el escamado, como en lo loco de su pintado 😂

  • @danluna9649
    @danluna9649 Місяць тому +1

    This was such a great surprise from Haolongood. I wonder if we will get more surprises before the end of the year. I wish they would release an Anchiceratops, or an Arrhinoceratops. There are many obscure species that I’d love for them, and PNSO to add to their collections.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Considering it's very near the end of the year, I don't think they would. Supposedly, they still have Einiosaurus and Styracosaurus to clear, not to mention that brachiosaurid. I believe it would be hard to top the Argentinosaurus though!

  • @NetheriteGuy14-vs7ne
    @NetheriteGuy14-vs7ne Місяць тому +3

    I honestly like this a lot better than Doyle. The more active pose and a lot of the details in the head really sell this one for me. Yeah, the large frill scales and keratinized face are a little weird, but they don’t take away from the beauty of this figure.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      They most definitely do not! You will easily overlook them when you have this in hand. As you say, there is real beauty in this figure!

  • @_name3825
    @_name3825 Місяць тому +1

    This might have to be my first Halonggood it looks so good.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      It will be a most worthy first purchase if you don't yet have any of HLG's models!

  • @michaelkawano1951
    @michaelkawano1951 Місяць тому

    So great! Can’t wait for mine to arrive.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      By now I'm sure it has, and very delighted you are!

  • @C1ioTavares
    @C1ioTavares Місяць тому +1

    I need the blue one 🤩🤩

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Haha... I would say that in this case "need" is the right word to use! 😁

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 Місяць тому +2

    I like the green one better I don’t know why and yeah Yoshi trike specimen is a subadult. There both adult versions of the Yoshi trike hypothetic they also have an adult Yoshi specimen in prehistoric planet

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      This seems to me like a Yoshi type Triceratops _sp_ for sure, and in my latest video I show that the age of the subadult would be different for the EoFauna, based on the epiossifications 😁

  • @paleoscinkus542
    @paleoscinkus542 Місяць тому +1

    The figure itself is seems to be heavily inspired by David Krentz “Uncle Beazley” Triceratops, they essentially have the same pose, both feature tortoiseshell like scales over the frill and are based on the same specimen.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      Good Heavens... you are right! I just checked it out!

  • @dericplummer9272
    @dericplummer9272 Місяць тому +1

    Dang. I have been critical of Haolonggood but this looks really nice.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      This is a fantastic model! And it's how a flagship dinosaur should be! 😁

  • @iamlegend3007
    @iamlegend3007 Місяць тому

    A masterpiece.

  • @colinmathura-jeffree9829
    @colinmathura-jeffree9829 Місяць тому +2

    Similar size to Stegosaurus models?

  • @thomasmonroe7947
    @thomasmonroe7947 15 днів тому +1

    Watched this vid a couple of times. The HLG Triceratops, other than the facial keratin and the over large frill scales, is damn good. I’ll probably get the grey just cuz the paint looks more cohesive and the horn stippling was a big selling point-that’s a great application.
    As to PNSO’s “updated” Doyle, it never grew on me. The old Doyle was a pretty good, dynamic figure. The update, with its lowered horns, doesn’t seem quite right for a few reasons but most notably, the horns seem to perilously dip down compared to the direction of the horns on the actual skull. They just seem….annoying. Probably just me but they look wrong.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  14 днів тому

      The old Doyle was certainly more dynamic, and I believe would appeal to many more people. There is a trend in the more scientifically-focussed people to start to move towards more day-in-the-life poses as we recognize them more and more as living animals. Unfortunately, this won't be as viscerally satisfying and might even be downright boring.
      As for the horns, I definitely still prefer more 'traditional' depictions, such as in the old Doyle. But as more ideas on this have surfaced over the years, I'm less confident of how these horns could have grown over the bone core. The bone core still plays a huge starting role of course.

    • @thomasmonroe7947
      @thomasmonroe7947 13 днів тому

      @@DinosDragons Totally on board with your thinking. A horn core can only tell us so much. My feelings of the updated Doyle might be a little too much “me” but I still feel, looking at the skull and angle of the horns, as PNSO molded their take, the horns seem a little dislocated and downward facing almost to the point of being a visual distraction to the animal. My last poke at this. They just seem, as before, wrong. I will look at more recovered available specimens and let this dog lie. As always, your videos and insights, presentations of more in depth data beyond the normal “what a cool figure” reviews and breakdowns are the best.

  • @Mrtitanosaur
    @Mrtitanosaur Місяць тому

    Wow beautiful

  • @BiffyC
    @BiffyC Місяць тому +1

    Stunning. Haolonggood really producing some top tier figures, and the price of this is great. I just wish they could improve their consistency as their figures are not all of the same standard. The just released xenoceratops is no where near the same quality as this one.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      It's interesting... I didn't expect the poor reception Xenoceratops received. But I do get that there is some inconsistency. Most obviously in the fineness of the scales. EIther it's a deliberate choice or it's two different teams. I love all of them though! 😁😁

  • @tekkamangrave
    @tekkamangrave Місяць тому +1

    This is a real contender to PNSO Trike. Head looks great, especially the non-articulated mouth. Only thing they can improve is the paintjob. The stripes often look a little too casual.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      Maybe the green version will be more to your liking. In general, for most people I would recommend this over the PNSO. It is an amazing package!

    • @tekkamangrave
      @tekkamangrave Місяць тому

      ​@@DinosDragons The green one is actually the one I am talking about... It's a clone of the old PNSO Doyle which looked a little too flashy.

  • @matts2298
    @matts2298 Місяць тому +1

    I'm an avid PNSO fan but this is the point where I truly feel Haolonggood have surpassed PNSO in quality. If it keeps going like that I may have to swap my collection.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      I think it's good to be fluid and not locked into one or switch completely. But I have to honestly say that for my Western viewers, HLG makes a lot of sense cost-wise. For the quality of sculpt, paint applications, more interesting patterns, and price, HLG is my recommendation for most people at least for the *herbivores*

  • @kcdiscipline
    @kcdiscipline Місяць тому +1

    I think it's pretty funny how Haolonggood Ceratopsidae always looks good, while other groups look way cheaper. This and Pachyrhinosaurus are my favorites.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Hmmm... did you mean other HLG models? I think their sauropods are amazing! 😁

    • @kcdiscipline
      @kcdiscipline Місяць тому

      @@DinosDragons Yep, but I agree with you, the sauropods are indeed amazing!

  • @멀더fox
    @멀더fox Місяць тому +1

    나도 회색으로 주문했다 회색이 예쁘다

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      The grey is much nicer than I thought it would be! I prefer the green, but I am very happy to have the grey as well!

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 Місяць тому

    This is so goat'd!!!

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Indeed! It's going to be _very hard_ to beat!

  • @firegator6853
    @firegator6853 Місяць тому +1

    its indeed a very beautiful figure i like how giant and bulky it is, what i want from a triceratops
    i just wont buy it cuz i dont want to buy same species, i have the pnso already and im satisfied with it because although the specimen its reconstructed after is debated weather its torosaurus or triceratops horridus, its reconstructed as the latter so it is the latter, and other specimens like big john have an incredibly similar appearance, even down to the frill shape both are very similarly square, biggest difference between that and big john is the horn shape but ceratopsians can have a lot of individual variation so both the frill and horn difference can fall into that and when it comes specifically to the head integument like the scales i like the finer style of the pnso more and honestly the tighter skin that doesnt make up for cheeks is a style i quite like, since there is no definitive answer if that jaw muscle was visible like a lizard or covered with tight skin like in crocodiles or just normal skin covering it like birds
    though if i didnt have it i would probably consider this haolonggood version probably, speaking of which what species is it? if its based on yoshi's trike, what species is that specimen?

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      I believe it is inspired by Yoshi and hence a Yoshi-type triceratops. As far as I know, Yoshi is still currently designed as Triceratops _sp_ so there is no definite official name for it yet. Some think it's a transitonary species, others think it's one of the other two. Considering how much keratinous horns might build up around the horn core, that's not enough to separate species. So we really need an official full paper out on it.

  • @modelnut617
    @modelnut617 Місяць тому

    Thank goodness --- no quills!

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Yes... if they had to add something speculative, I'd much rather it be keratin on the face than quills in the ass!

  • @hokiesrex9599
    @hokiesrex9599 Місяць тому +2

    while Imo the haloongood triceratops is more appealing to look at, if we go by accuracy I would say the eofauna's yoshis trike and arguably the pnso doyle 2021 still takes the cake. either way these models are fantastic and depends on the buyer's preference on which one they want. great vids as always

    • @Luis-xr8rv
      @Luis-xr8rv Місяць тому

      The eofauna is mid at Best

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      @hokiesrex9599 I agree with you on the EoFauna here, I might drop a video on that.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 Місяць тому

    Yeah, triceratops horns were not curl like the Mark witton artwork 2:26

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      I sure hope not! But then again, Dr Witton makes a lot of sense in his reasoning, so who knows. I just hope that I can still retain the fantasy that at least ONE ceratopsian could fight in a reasonable way!

  • @shawntorres9299
    @shawntorres9299 Місяць тому

    Another great review but u sure they’re based on yoshis trike I think it’s a different specimen like lane because the frill looks bigger than with is based off yoshi but u could use it as a regular adult trike I guess?

    • @isislima8995
      @isislima8995 Місяць тому

      Yeah, that's not Yoshi.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      @shawntorres9299
      You definitely could! Even now, there's no consensus on what Yoshi is. From all my reading I realise that the ceratopsians were far more variable in morphology than I would have imagined.

  • @Bota7120
    @Bota7120 Місяць тому

    i prefer HLG body shape, but pnso's face and horns look cooler imo

    • @yozkopf3000
      @yozkopf3000 Місяць тому

      Can't understand how someone can prefer the PNSO face. That is the biggest issue with the PNSO triceratops - the face looks off, the mouth articulation makes the mouth look hideous and the mouth opening much too large. Compared to the much better HLG, the eyes of the PNSO make the face expression goofy and retarded looking.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      If only we could create our own amalgamation from different figures!

  • @oscarvaldes5621
    @oscarvaldes5621 Місяць тому +1

    The body is perfect a shame on the choices made in the face but still a great figure

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +1

      Yes it really is quite puzzling! Artistic licence I guess, but overall, still a solid WOW!

  • @MahmWithThePlan
    @MahmWithThePlan Місяць тому +3

    Those frill "scales" are extremely off putting to me. Such a shame as it really is a lovely figure, but I'll stick with Eofauna's interpretation of Yoshi's Trike. Gah, just can't get past that frill, what were they thinking?

    • @joshuavis2736
      @joshuavis2736 Місяць тому +1

      I’m really not sure. Given how accurate haolonggood tend to be, I’m not sure why they’d make such a big change. I’m wondering if there’s some new research out there or if it’s just speculation

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому +2

      @joshuavis2736 That's what I'm wondering! I might have missed a paper here and there, and was hoping the viewers might shed some light. It seems like a strange choice to practise such imagination with a highly important flagship dinosaur like Triceratops!

  • @thomaswagner1135
    @thomaswagner1135 Місяць тому +3

    This Triceratops has many improvements compared to other ceratopsians from Haolonggood. For example, the rich details of the sculpt, correct manus, better eyes, very nice paint application and a dynamic pose. But these large scales or whatever they are on the frill unfortunately ruin this model, not least because they feature so prominently. Taking everything together, the PNSO (new Doyle) is still better and for T. prorsus the De Clay studio resin model is the best one out there.

    • @DinosDragons
      @DinosDragons  Місяць тому

      Unfortunately, the De Clay would be way out of the reach of most collectors. I love their T Rex, but unfortunately I wasn't comfortable with the forelimbs of their Triceratops, especially the lateral unguals of the hand.
      I just released a way overdue video comparing the PNSO and HLG more directly. The large scales on the frill are unfortunate, and to a lesser degree, the keratin in the prefrontal area. And for some sadly, will be just too glaring to overlook. But overall, considering the price of PNSO, and everything else, I believe most people would do well with the HLG.