Encryption 1. Encryption in motion (WiFi) -- basic WiFi encryption can be cracked (search UA-cam) 2. Encryption at rest -- are the files encrypted on the disk? For example, if the device was stolen would the thief have access to all the files? Is there any encryption at all to slow down a their (or for example if one carried the device outside and dropped it or one left it in a cab or on a bus).
During the price comparison, you missed Samsung T7 Shield. It has the best price in mid 2023 due to its over-supply. 2TB variant is currently $119.99, which is no brainer.
I would love to see the interaction with the NAS. It would just make it a lot simpler to get my parents and older generation family members attached to my NAS and allowing them to have their own backup copy to restore from. The NAS is just a bit complicated for them.
This could be interesting for my parents. Do the PC and mobile backup work automatically after setting everything up? So, I would do the initial setup and then they just plug it into the computer and computer/mobile backup start automatically without them needing to do anything?
Hello. Great video and thank you. I was going to purchase a BeeDrive for my daughter. She needs an alternative to iCloud. What do you think? I would like your opinion please.?
Very interesting. Thanks a lot! This product has a market: Stand alone users who want to keep it simple. You made the logic clear to me. I think that Synology did it again. Simple Hardware, brilliant software. One question: Can it do bare metal backups? This device is the perfect solution for the simple private user. I expect it to be a big success. My customers are business users, but at home they love to have this to backup their laptops, phones, whatever as well. Thanks! The bare metal backup is a paramount thing to make things perfect. Is this possible? After seing your video, I have purchased one and will play with it. This device has a market!
Thank you for the interesting and instructive video. You showed the SanDisk SSD's, I own two of those(1TB & 2TB) with which I constantly experience problems. Ever since I acquired then. Issues such as not detected(or very slow to be recognised by the system ), corrupt data, empty drives, etc.. occur on a regular basis. I believe other people have experienced such frustration resuming in lack of trust for important storage. I'm using this on Max computers. Are you aware of such problems and possible remedies ? Thank you in advance for your reply. regards. Michael
Hi. I´m a wildlife photographer and during my trips I take tons of stills and footage. At the end of day I download camera cards content to my external portable SSD device and/or laptop. As soon I arrive home I then transfer them to my Synology DS923+ . Most of the times it works well but recently I´m having issues with the DS923+ not recognizing my external SSD drives thus I have a transfer problem. I found your YT video and I wonder on the possibility to replace my 3rd party SSD drives with this beedrive. I would love to know your opinion. Thank you so much. Jose
Very intersting and I agree with your final comment regarding the integration with the Synology ecosystem. Having said so this could be a solution to directly save photos from my Sony Alpha ? Is it possible ?
Ideal solution for some of my clients who buy external drives and then wonder how to use them to backup their favourite stuff. The BeeDrive seems simple enough, and while it isn't for me (I use Synology NAS solutions) it is ideal for those guys.
I can see this fit to backup sensitive files of laptop (HR with payroll info) that cannot be back up to NAS or cloud n risk being seen by IT admin . Yes similar solutions exist but to pair both the hardware ssd n software together I think I not yet seen done. Looking forward to it.
Hi, This BeeDrive may be a tempting product for my son. But what I would really like to see from Synology is a new version of the old EDS14 (A Mini rugged portable NAS) with newer storage technologys like NVME or SD storage drives and increased processor performance that run at lower power. I would hope that there is a valuable market for such a device. My personal main requirments for such a device would be: Portable use from a 12 volt power supply, I.e. a vechile; To take backups of camera footage and photos, including audio recordings. Also to be able to use as a basic media streaming and music storage device one or two local network devices; It may be too much to expect but if it had the capacity to take bare-bones back-up's of laptops etc too, even better!; Also to include a RJ45 network connection & perhaps WiFi connectivity :) And finally. if it had the option to sync back to our office NAS system (To off-load excess files) when we were in range of a stable WiFi connection, would be a wonderful device for my purposes. I hope Robbie that you could make a request to Synology, that this would be worthwhile looking into as a product to consider for future development. Thanks :)
As several decades was about clouds, outsourcing, centralization, these days are about opposite trend. Get rid of clouds and outsourcing, and rely on own devices and keep it out of public clouds and keep it in-house. This can be another way how to do it. Hopefully Synology will not destroy reputation in this.
I don't have wi-fi, so I can't use it in the handy dandy way, but I can still physically connect it to my laptop and use it in the same way as I do with my SanDisk 1 TB SSD. Is that correct? Thank you for this video, you are very thorough. (I purposely don't have wifi because Microsoft does auto Windows updates which will make my important software incompatible)
This is similar to the now long-gone ClickFree backup drive (two iterations of which I own) that was available from the likes of the QVC shopping channel a few years ago. And therein lies the appeal. It's a simple plug and go backup device that gets the job done with minimal user knowledge. The only drawback, it seems to me, is that the user has to remember to use it!
Sounds like these are fire backups, so if one also wants image backups (in case an entire drive crashes) one would need a seperate device and Acronis or similar software?
i won't put much value to wifi connectivity, it would be cool, but is it really that useful? Connecting directly to the sdd via wifi just have 1 pro, you don't need the cable. For that you have a price though, you've to disconnect your device from internet which make you're device mostly useless for the time you're transferring stuff to your drive (it's either wifi through router or wifi through the ssd, isn't it? unless you have some fancy device that can connect through different wifi lans, not something that many not techy people have/do) and also it will obviously be a slower connection than the cable one. + you'll have to take care of the battery.
Just can't see how I could recommend a single point of failure backup solution to someone. I have had several cases of general user coming to me to save data off failed drives.
What is the TBW of the drive? There enterprise 2.5" ssd has an 2,194 TB TBW and totaly drarfs something like the crucial mx 1tb with 360TB. I hammer the snot out of my external drives transfer wise, so TBW is important to to gauging the reliable useful life of my external drives. ATM i just buy a USB C gen2 3.2 encloser and a drive like the Sabrent Rocket NVMe PCIe 4.0 2tb with a claimed TBW of 3,350TB. While there software is nice I only care about how durable and reliable the storage is first, i suspect I am in the minority there but great software means sod all if the hardware is average or sub par. I just use open source back software. There choice of form factor sucks to, looks like it was designed to use a sata not nvme connection and would be annoying in your pocket. If you ever take a 2,5" sata ssd apart the hardware uses less than a third of the enclosure length and that puck of a housing would be ideal for it. Then again the synology enterprise sata drives have capacitors incase of powerloss so the free space is usefull at least to synology.
The backup software doesn't really look any different from what you find included with most external drives these days. The big difference seems to be in the multi-device support, file sync, and mobile backups. It's not like DSM at all.
I'm having a hard time trying to understand the use cases for this here. While some of the features are nice to have, they have been available as part of the major operating systems for years - or at least can be arranged separately for free or for very cheap - and for that price you can find much better deals of larger drives from reputable brands such as SanDisk. Having some of that stuff automated is nice for the computer illiterate folks out there but again, none of this is rocket science and anyone motivated enough to actually keep a backup probably can figure out Time Machine or Windows Backup so I wonder who exactly is the audience that Synology is targeting with this. While I don't disagree with the overall gist of this video, my point is that the gap between the computer illiterate user that would be better served subscribing to a cloud backup service such as Backblaze's and the sort of user that understands the benefits of having a local backup and thus _already_ has an idea of how to operate something along the lines of Windows Backup and/or Time Machine is not that big to warrant an entire product line dedicated to it. Or is it? Synology probably did some research before launching this product and might have walked away with the feeling that there is enough of an untapped market out there for something like this...
OMG!!!! Four Commericals in the first 8 Minutes. You are ABUSING your visitors!!!! That's too many commericals for your whole video! If Google thinks that badgering people will get them to pay for Google, they are mistaken. I would just not ever watch Google. Nothing is foever. Anyway, I stopped watching the video. Could not take it anymore.
Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have too many commercials in even the first 4 minutes of your video. The first one being around 1:40 minutes into the video. I consider that an Abuse of your viewers. Please!!!! Have Google show less commercials and later in your video. And I took note of the advertisers and I will never buy anything from them.
Sorry to hear that man. There should not be that many. I just checked via a proxy and no seeing more than 2x ad blocks. Are you skipping forward/back alot? That can often trigger the UA-cam ads. I leave the ad settings to default, like most other creators.
So to be clear, this device only works (well?) with proprietary software on Windows, atm? You're right, it's useless for the rest of us homelabber types. I stopped watching at 8 mins.
Always enjoy how comprehensive your videos are. Thank you for the informative video.
The seagulls are loving the BeeDrive
What about seagulls ? Almost every video has someone comment on seagulls ?
Encryption
1. Encryption in motion (WiFi) -- basic WiFi encryption can be cracked (search UA-cam)
2. Encryption at rest -- are the files encrypted on the disk?
For example, if the device was stolen would the thief have access to all the files? Is there any encryption at all to slow down a their (or for example if one carried the device outside and dropped it or one left it in a cab or on a bus).
During the price comparison, you missed Samsung T7 Shield. It has the best price in mid 2023 due to its over-supply. 2TB variant is currently $119.99, which is no brainer.
I would love to see the interaction with the NAS. It would just make it a lot simpler to get my parents and older generation family members attached to my NAS and allowing them to have their own backup copy to restore from. The NAS is just a bit complicated for them.
Just have a text scrolling by continuously, "I hate seagulls" 😁
This could be interesting for my parents. Do the PC and mobile backup work automatically after setting everything up? So, I would do the initial setup and then they just plug it into the computer and computer/mobile backup start automatically without them needing to do anything?
Hello. Great video and thank you. I was going to purchase a BeeDrive for my daughter. She needs an alternative to iCloud. What do you think? I would like your opinion please.?
Very interesting. Thanks a lot!
This product has a market: Stand alone users who want to keep it simple.
You made the logic clear to me.
I think that Synology did it again. Simple Hardware, brilliant software.
One question: Can it do bare metal backups?
This device is the perfect solution for the simple private user.
I expect it to be a big success.
My customers are business users, but at home they love to have this to backup their laptops, phones, whatever as well. Thanks! The bare metal backup is a paramount thing to make things perfect. Is this possible?
After seing your video, I have purchased one and will play with it. This device has a market!
Thank you for the interesting and instructive video. You showed the SanDisk SSD's, I own two of those(1TB & 2TB) with which I constantly experience problems. Ever since I acquired then. Issues such as not detected(or very slow to be recognised by the system ), corrupt data, empty drives, etc.. occur on a regular basis. I believe other people have experienced such frustration resuming in lack of trust for important storage. I'm using this on Max computers. Are you aware of such problems and possible remedies ? Thank you in advance for your reply. regards. Michael
Nice video! Thanks! Want to ask, how fast is the backup speed of the photos? Like you had 14k photos, how long did it took you to back it up.
Hi. I´m a wildlife photographer and during my trips I take tons of stills and footage. At the end of day I download camera cards content to my external portable SSD device and/or laptop. As soon I arrive home I then transfer them to my Synology DS923+ . Most of the times it works well but recently I´m having issues with the DS923+ not recognizing my external SSD drives thus I have a transfer problem. I found your YT video and I wonder on the possibility to replace my 3rd party SSD drives with this beedrive. I would love to know your opinion. Thank you so much. Jose
Idk if I missed it but can you back up different phones on different folders to the drive?
Great video - thank you.
Very intersting and I agree with your final comment regarding the integration with the Synology ecosystem. Having said so this could be a solution to directly save photos from my Sony Alpha ? Is it possible ?
Is there any advantage with Bee Drive over Synology Photos for mobile photo backup?
I swear you need to have a spoof intro on seagulls…. 😂😂😂
We're reviewing the SeaGull NAS today, and it's just caws.
Ideal solution for some of my clients who buy external drives and then wonder how to use them to backup their favourite stuff. The BeeDrive seems simple enough, and while it isn't for me (I use Synology NAS solutions) it is ideal for those guys.
I can see this fit to backup sensitive files of laptop (HR with payroll info) that cannot be back up to NAS or cloud n risk being seen by IT admin . Yes similar solutions exist but to pair both the hardware ssd n software together I think I not yet seen done. Looking forward to it.
Does this device allow you to make a backup and synchronize with the external drives that our Mac has or only the internal drive?
Thank you.
lots of routers have USB connection, maybe that would be a good spot for future?
Hi, This BeeDrive may be a tempting product for my son. But what I would really like to see from Synology is a new version of the old EDS14 (A Mini rugged portable NAS) with newer storage technologys like NVME or SD storage drives and increased processor performance that run at lower power. I would hope that there is a valuable market for such a device. My personal main requirments for such a device would be: Portable use from a 12 volt power supply, I.e. a vechile; To take backups of camera footage and photos, including audio recordings. Also to be able to use as a basic media streaming and music storage device one or two local network devices; It may be too much to expect but if it had the capacity to take bare-bones back-up's of laptops etc too, even better!; Also to include a RJ45 network connection & perhaps WiFi connectivity :)
And finally. if it had the option to sync back to our office NAS system (To off-load excess files) when we were in range of a stable WiFi connection, would be a wonderful device for my purposes.
I hope Robbie that you could make a request to Synology, that this would be worthwhile looking into as a product to consider for future development. Thanks :)
As several decades was about clouds, outsourcing, centralization, these days are about opposite trend. Get rid of clouds and outsourcing, and rely on own devices and keep it out of public clouds and keep it in-house. This can be another way how to do it. Hopefully Synology will not destroy reputation in this.
You have a lot of synology at your back,how do you use that.Haha.Subscriber here.
I don't have wi-fi, so I can't use it in the handy dandy way, but I can still physically connect it to my laptop and use it in the same way as I do with my SanDisk 1 TB SSD. Is that correct?
Thank you for this video, you are very thorough.
(I purposely don't have wifi because Microsoft does auto Windows updates which will make my important software incompatible)
This is similar to the now long-gone ClickFree backup drive (two iterations of which I own) that was available from the likes of the QVC shopping channel a few years ago. And therein lies the appeal. It's a simple plug and go backup device that gets the job done with minimal user knowledge. The only drawback, it seems to me, is that the user has to remember to use it!
Sounds like these are fire backups, so if one also wants image backups (in case an entire drive crashes) one would need a seperate device and Acronis or similar software?
Is it correct it can backup up to 5 desktop (via 5 backup tasks? Eg me n my family member) or only 1 desktop max? Wished have larger capacity too
Why everywhere on bee app it says photos ...why not photos and videos...does it also backup videos as well?
what we are paying or buying here is the software? since the hardware I see there is not difference from the Scandisk 1TB for example
Could this be attached to home router, or which synolgy is great for that
i won't put much value to wifi connectivity, it would be cool, but is it really that useful? Connecting directly to the sdd via wifi just have 1 pro, you don't need the cable. For that you have a price though, you've to disconnect your device from internet which make you're device mostly useless for the time you're transferring stuff to your drive (it's either wifi through router or wifi through the ssd, isn't it? unless you have some fancy device that can connect through different wifi lans, not something that many not techy people have/do) and also it will obviously be a slower connection than the cable one. + you'll have to take care of the battery.
Is it possible to install the DSM system on the 2 Chache SSD to reduce the noise and power?
That wouldn’t seem to work with my office laptop as IT has all the USB Drives blocked.
Do you get synology photo software w it ?
But cant i use this bee drive to make an update over usb on my synology nas?
Waiting for Synology to make a product similar to AmberPro but with user upgradable ssd
Just can't see how I could recommend a single point of failure backup solution to someone. I have had several cases of general user coming to me to save data off failed drives.
What is the TBW of the drive? There enterprise 2.5" ssd has an 2,194 TB TBW and totaly drarfs something like the crucial mx 1tb with 360TB. I hammer the snot out of my external drives transfer wise, so TBW is important to to gauging the reliable useful life of my external drives.
ATM i just buy a USB C gen2 3.2 encloser and a drive like the Sabrent Rocket NVMe PCIe 4.0 2tb with a claimed TBW of 3,350TB. While there software is nice I only care about how durable and reliable the storage is first, i suspect I am in the minority there but great software means sod all if the hardware is average or sub par. I just use open source back software. There choice of form factor sucks to, looks like it was designed to use a sata not nvme connection and would be annoying in your pocket.
If you ever take a 2,5" sata ssd apart the hardware uses less than a third of the enclosure length and that puck of a housing would be ideal for it. Then again the synology enterprise sata drives have capacitors incase of powerloss so the free space is usefull at least to synology.
0:57 is that a seagull in the background
Gonna recommend this to a bunch of my friends damn
Their target market will be confused by this device and return it, I guarantee it.
Is the BeeDrive software a baby version of DSM?
I mean is this device intended as a "gateway drug" to a full NAS?
The backup software doesn't really look any different from what you find included with most external drives these days. The big difference seems to be in the multi-device support, file sync, and mobile backups. It's not like DSM at all.
I'm having a hard time trying to understand the use cases for this here. While some of the features are nice to have, they have been available as part of the major operating systems for years - or at least can be arranged separately for free or for very cheap - and for that price you can find much better deals of larger drives from reputable brands such as SanDisk. Having some of that stuff automated is nice for the computer illiterate folks out there but again, none of this is rocket science and anyone motivated enough to actually keep a backup probably can figure out Time Machine or Windows Backup so I wonder who exactly is the audience that Synology is targeting with this.
While I don't disagree with the overall gist of this video, my point is that the gap between the computer illiterate user that would be better served subscribing to a cloud backup service such as Backblaze's and the sort of user that understands the benefits of having a local backup and thus _already_ has an idea of how to operate something along the lines of Windows Backup and/or Time Machine is not that big to warrant an entire product line dedicated to it. Or is it? Synology probably did some research before launching this product and might have walked away with the feeling that there is enough of an untapped market out there for something like this...
SanDisk? lol that statement aged poorly..
Lol no lie trying to make out the seagull sounds while your talking
Apple users miss out again.
OMG!!!! Four Commericals in the first 8 Minutes. You are ABUSING your visitors!!!! That's too many commericals for your whole video! If Google thinks that badgering people will get them to pay for Google, they are mistaken. I would just not ever watch Google. Nothing is foever. Anyway, I stopped watching the video. Could not take it anymore.
Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have too many commercials in even the first 4 minutes of your video. The first one being around 1:40 minutes into the video. I consider that an Abuse of your viewers. Please!!!! Have Google show less commercials and later in your video. And I took note of the advertisers and I will never buy anything from them.
Sorry to hear that man. There should not be that many. I just checked via a proxy and no seeing more than 2x ad blocks. Are you skipping forward/back alot? That can often trigger the UA-cam ads. I leave the ad settings to default, like most other creators.
So to be clear, this device only works (well?) with proprietary software on Windows, atm? You're right, it's useless for the rest of us homelabber types. I stopped watching at 8 mins.
the BeeDrive is awesome for regular people.
This is nice, but it would have been fantastic if it had been a caddy for an nvme you could add yourself.