Mooer GE300 - Worth the hype? First Impressions
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Very critical approach to the GE300, but I want to be honest!
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Tone Capture will be tested in a separate video guys!
thank u for this video..if u have to choose between a hd500x n ge 300 ,wat'd be ur call?plz do answer honestly..i'll buy that unit
Please do it as soon as possible i wanna here how it sounds. But to me HD500x sounds better
Arkava Goswami Wow okay... Well, a HD500X is HALF the price of the GE300, I'd take that into consideration. I would almost go ahead and say their sound is very close, you'll just get older technology with the POD... tough question
@@MilianMalivukMusic thank u dear bro.i do love ur chnl.keep rocking.theres an axe fx fm3 is about to launch .I think that'll be better than ge300 n pod,hx stomp.i'd like to listen ur view.
Soulhenge ...Dude, will you share that lick at 11:12 , sick!
Well, they've been listening to you, and us, and here is what they've done: What’s New
1. Trail function is now available. When the Trail function is activated, delay or reverb effects will remain for a few seconds after switching between patches or switching off effects.
Delay effects that support Trail: Digital, Analog, Dynamic, Real, Tape, Mod, PingPong
Reverb effects that support Trail: Room, Hall, Plate, Fl-Reverb, Swell-Reverb, Spring, Mod
2. CTRL footswitch mode. The footswitch LED will change the brightness to indicate the current situation.
3. Fixed the latency when changing between presets. Fixed the pause when turning on/off effect blocks.
4. New alerts for importing presets with TONE CAPTURE files. When importing TONE CAPTURE presets, if the TONE CAPTURE file already exists on the target patch, the user will be alerted to select “Replace” to replace the TONE CAPTURE file or select “Save As” to select another save slot.
Thank you,
MOOER Team
The save function still no update.... expression assignment still very inconvenient
So they did some improvent because the most important deal for me is the switching between effects patches and the latency.
@@johnong2655 You can feel free to tell MOOER via support email or on the text them on MOOER page, otherwise they cannot see it.
@@hadriancao955 The save naming function has been updated. I've emailed to them about assigning max/min parameter values for on/off CTRL. Got my reply. I guess that feature only available in BOSS multifx, haven't seen anyone else doing that yet
It's the best pedal for me, It works fantastic in studio and better live sesions.
Brutallity honest, take a Time tweeking that stuff ✌️
Really appreciate you saying that about the hype from some cannels. It is a bummer that so many youtube channels have become a shill front for the companies. I really like your channel for this reason; I feel like I'm getting an honest opinion.
When you said "I'm brutally honest" - I smiled. Thank god for straight facts and opinion. So greatly appreciated.
I started with ge300 and now I make a pedal board with the ge300 inside. It's nice for modeling effects, synth and the looper.
I love this small machine. It's just perfect to fit with my other pedals.
Good, honest video. It's getting harder and harder to find non-sponsored content these days so it's much appreciated. Another bonus with the Helix is you can get Helix Native for like $99 if you own any helix product and get all the helix sounds directly in your DAW. Highly recommend it for any Helix users that do recording.
How can anyone dislike your 5 star reviews? Keep up the great work!!!!!!
Thanks for being a clear-headed, unbiased reviewer like what you did with the Precision Drive. One of the reasons I keep coming back to this channel.
so glad you reviewed it. I was skeptical as you with all the other reviews, so thank you!
Love your videos because your always honest. Good review
Well, the Synth fx sounded awesome, but I'm pretty sure the Helix can do these also AND has amazing amp sims.
Great review. You're one of my favorite gear channels on yt. Greetings from Lotasticland aka Austria
Very much agree with your thoughts here... I'm not sure who they are Targeting at this price point. I'd probably just get an HX stomp if I was around that budget.
Only thing I think you may have missed is the amp match feature that's In the 300. It's certainly what has me KINDA interested. Cheers man.
Yeah man. IMO the Hotone stuff is miles better than mooer. Especially with the new ampero 2 “stomp” currently out. Do you agree?
FYI. the 1.2 firmware update enabled trailing and dimming of buttons when not in use.
Thank you sir!
That's what I like, a company who isn't so big headed and will listen to its reviews about its products and make changes in a hurry to not stray away any buyers.
Matt Cat like *cough Gibson cough* big corporate companies?
I see it like this. If you're an 'all-around' musician who plays gigs everyday jumping from a metal show from one night to an indie/dreampop show the following day (or in the same night!), the GE300 is for you.
If all you care about is high gain metal sounds that you can record with and play live with in a band...and that's all you want to do, the GE200 is for you. I personally don't see much use for the tone capture, the added send/return, and synthengine for a 'purely-metal' musician.
In my local metal scene, I know a few GE200 owners who initially pre-ordered the 300 because they thought it's 'better' only to be disappointed that it isn't that different from the 200 when they started using it. On paper, the 300 may initially have better metal tones than the 200 but once third party IRs come in to play, I feel that they're really close., with one maybe being better than the other depending on the IR used.
Wishfully thinking, I wish Mooer would make a variant of the 300 that replaces the synthengine with a 'built-in Mooer baby bomb'. For metalheads playing live, that would be much more useful.
Thanks for the review, I also was pretty sceptical about that synth-hype. Even Ola spent quite a decent time with the synth stuff. My 2 cents: Just get a used GE200 for >200 euros. If you want to spend more: Amplifier 6, HX Stomp
They fixed the led lights on the control buttons on the update! Well done for pointing this out!!
I sold my ax8, and bought the ge-300
that I find great it is intuitive find easily the sounds that have it wants a lot of option unlike its competitor
I bought it while waiting for the fm3 which will make you all agree. fractal is today one of the best digital unit that is close to the tube amp, I do not deny any other brand they have all their defects and quality but I prefer it is fractal a point that's all.
Great post ty for sharing
To be completely fair most (if not all) of the issues you had with it were fixed in firmware updates, plus there is also the Lite version, which is pretty much the same but muuuch cheaper ($200 less) cause it doesn't have some of the things that to most people are useless or just addable, like the synth, the 30 minute looper and the expression pedal (which you can just buy separately). But great video nonetheless! It's refreshing to see someone be harshly honest with their opinion while not being unpolite! Cheers!
"Plasticy" feel and lack of organic touch and feel is exactly how I feel every time I play a Helix. I always come back to my tube amps when I want that real feel. All of the modelers serve a purpose. Test them all out and pick one and just play and enjoy it.
I think you just have to tweak, and not asking more than the pedal can give you men, I have Pod Xt and It sounds amazing (You cannot compare a Pod Xt with these two)
@@jorgemm1000 Right on man. I have since bought an HX Stomp. I'm still tweaking but it sounds promising. 🤘🤘🤘
@@mhoff7722 ua-cam.com/video/q2VN1cIjlSw/v-deo.html !! (Watch this video men, you won't regret)
@@jorgemm1000 Thanks. I started watching that one a while back and never finished. I'll check the whole thing out this time!
Hi used to own the Line6 Helix LT as well. Currently on Headrush Pedalboard.
What are your thoughts about the headrush ?
Why headrush pedalboard rather than helix lt bro?
@@insight_yv I think it is great. The only down side is that the amount of effects and amps you can use are kind of limited, also the signal chain are not as flexible as the Helix family. But I would say that I the Headrush Stock Amps and distortions sound are more prefereable and easier to get good sound for me.
@@gauravlama2079 I would say that I love the stock amps sound of the Headrush more than what Helix offer.
And what realy catch me is the ability to change to a new rig without a pause in the sound. It is help me a lot as a Shoegaze/Alternative guitarist which need to swap around a lot of different sound in the song.
Glenn Fricker's video is a sponsored one (Y)
Yeah I saw that one. He's all about calling out BS. But he did the same...
Hey Soulhenge. Nice video! Maybe you‘ll test it again with some good impulse responses? It‘s not a game changer, but the GE300 sounds better with IRs!
He said "smells like china" well I'm out.
thank you for this video. Currently at the end of July 2020, Helix LT is at 915€ and the GE300 costs 584€. So the price gap has increased quiet a lot. ;)
"Many people are picky as well."
That's why I subscribed.
Very truthful and real opinions!!! Great job, keep it up 👍👍
Would like to see a review of a “ Headrush” modeler. If it’s anywhere as good as a Helix or Mooer, the touchscreen sells it for me.
As of now the GE 300 is about 600€ while the Helix LT sits between 900/1000€,moneywise it's a big gap while the differences are so minimal (and sometimes work in reverse compared to what you higlighted in the video) that makes this unit actually a better buy than the LT.About tonal capabilities if don't put third party IRs into the Helix it will sound like shit,wanna have a "real" tone heaven? Then go Fractal,even the smaller unit released lately is light years ahead of whatever Line6 or whoever else can match.
Did you ever test the Hotone Ampero?
I think Mooer saw your ge200 video because the next software update they did fixed 90% of your issues with it haha.
I've waited for your review, love them
Hej, mate! this is the most comprehensive review I've seen of this unit
Soundwise would you recommend this one over the Preamp Live? Does this one sound really better?
Thanks!
Everybody has it's own taste. Especially I just can't stand how all Line6 stuffs sounds like.
Exactly
Do you have any other alternatives? I’m interested in your opinion
Excellent!! Thanks for the review !! Now I have no doubts !! I go for the Helix !!
thank you, one of the best Ive seen, you keep it very real, Thank you
Instantly subbed for assumed honesty. I like sceptical reviews ;)
If GE300 was 400-500, it would take a big chunk of Helix LT market. But, at this pricing, as already said multiple times, nope. It's not rivalling, Line 6 still has Yamaha behind it and continuous software improvements and release cycles, has some very nice boutique amps models, it's just much better overall.
11:03 That gap in swithing on and off effects is completely unacceptable, even my old Boss GT-pro does that without any kind of gap at all and its from 2007, switching patches does produce a gap of about the same length though.
Do the delay trails carry on when switched off within a patch?
@@thecalmcommotion6204 Doesnt seem like it judgeing from that part of the video i linked to, there is no delay or reverb at all after he shuts them off. The gap bothers me much more though, even if that gap was during patch swithing it wouldnt be ideal these days, it wouldnt bother me much for patch switch though. As far as i remember the delay trails carry on after switching off the delay on my Boss GT-pro, not when patch switching though, possibly if you have the same delay in the patch you are switching to, i dont remember.
Delay trails isnt an important feature to me , when i switch sounds live i feel it can even be an advantage that you get a distinct break from the sound you had before. That gap when switching off/on delay and reverb within a patch like in the clip is more of a dealbreaker to me, if it were when patch swithing it would be ok although not ideal, but when switching on/off effects its a big no no.
@@Stefan- yeah my gt10 within a patch the delay Trails continue when I turn the effect off, and I actually definitely need that to happen for some of my patches, in between patches I'm not that concerned but within a patch the delay trails have got to carry on when the effect is turned off
Ok, but what I see was just the random sounds of the presets and not trying to get the best sounds as possible. Almost always, in 100% of multi effects, the presets aren't good enough or not usable. Still missing to show the editing and the possibilities of the I/O options. Honest but weak review.
Thanks for honest review, that's very helpful.
I love your brutal honesty
My parrot appreciate your riffs.
As did mine!
Great review. I too am bored of review 'ads' that are all over UA-cam nowadays, seems like most everyone is signing on (except for a few UA-camrs out there).
The problem is that Moore doesn’t create good factory presets, which is a problem. Once you add decent impulse responses and and amp captures, the Moore will sound amazing. This review was NOT informative and also lazy, kind of like many guitar players. Sorry 🙂. If you can’t take time to explore the full potential of your gear, then that’s a good reason you may not be getting the most out of it. Especially if you’re looking for a Line 6 sponsorship. Are encourage whatever is watching to look at a few more videos in regard to the GE-300 and you’ll see what I’m talking about
The modern day guitarist and consumer is absolutely lazy. I personally also don´t want to spend hours trying to make something sound good because creativity and inspiration need something interesting in the first place ;) This is not my last video about the GE300, I will talk about the Tone Capture in another video, also creating more metal tones.
I absolutely agree that you should watch more than 1 video if you are thinking about getting gear. Regarding all the (almost too) positive reviews, I wanted to bring some scepticism into the game. Life´s too short to agree with everyone ;)
had the ge200 for a while, didn't sound great out the box...but some time spent....and some custom IR's imported......a beast that you'd be proud to gig with.....just takes some effort
@@MilianMalivukMusic I really like where you're coming from on this. I get that in the video. You did have many good things to say about the 300 and also I'll bet you are going to have more demos of this later. Cheers
Great review, always appreciate honest reviews.
Thanks for the honest review. For the money I think, I will skip this GE300. The switching between preset is not seamless and that is very important for me.
I got it for £560:00 - Good Review though - Im still gonna enjoy it compared with my Boss and other outdated Modelling Effects units.
Was waiting for this! ✌️
Thank you for your candid review
You haven't talked about the GE300's tone match/tone capture feature, what are your thoughts on this? I'm really curious to see how it does. Great straight to the point no bullshit video by the way!
Patrick Ombrog I will talk about the Tone Capture in a separate video! ;)
Thanks for doing this video. I couldn’t understand why everyone was demoing this like it was an advertisement and not a review. I thought the exact same thing about the “synth engine”. Why do metal UA-cam channels care about a synth guitar product lol. I’m curious to hear how many good high gain amp sounds there actually are inside.
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Love your videos dude! I would love to see a review of the Line 6 HX stomp :) Seems like there are pretty much zero reviews of it catering to the metal crowd.
OMG i cant believe the POD HD sounds better than this thing. Even my Zoom g3 can't be defeated by this ge300. Nice honest review by the way.
You're dreaming.
When I saw this unit I was really interested, especially when you know Mooer have always been honest on their prices, but in that case when I saw the price I though there was an error!! 700€!!! It's twice what I expected...!!
Seriously it's good to see honest people like you who are able to say:"no, at that price this unit is not a good one, period."
Hi dude! Love your vids!
Would you mind doing a review update after the new firmware updates that came out? They fixed a lot of the issues you explained like FXs, trails and led dimming!
I would appreciate that so much since I'd want to buy it as well!
Cheers from italy!
Also wondered about that. Any News about the FX with this Update?
I want to buy it as well.
Cheers from Germany 😉
I really appreciate your honesty
As long as it worth the money, being not cheap is not a disadvantage; if it is not, than, not cheap is a disadvantage.
As of May 2020 you have the GE200 around 200€, GE250 around 400€ and GE300 around 600€.
I've owned a GE200 for the past 5 or 6 months and I'm pretty satisified with it, from a beginner's point of view. I've seen some reviews and demos with the Fractals and I'm definitely considering it as a replacement for my Mooer in the future.
Try the unit with impulse responses. I have a ge200 and it sounded about the same out of the box. I was disappointed until I tried the IR's I've used in the past with line 6. It blew the line 6 stuff away with that. I'm sold on my ge200 and I'd like to try the ge300 now.
Thank you for a great [actually critical?!?] review on youtube!
Best review! Thank you :)
I actually found your videos when I was deciding to buy my pod hd500. I had an XT Live years ago which I wasn't super excited by, but then I found a great deal on the hd500 and your videos made me decide to buy it (and then line6 student discount made the upgrade packs affordable, which was nice).
Anyway, yeah I think Mooer missed the mark a bit with pricing. Their Preamp Live, Radar, and other pedals are fantastic and have done a great job of jumpstarting their brand name, and the GE200 is pretty sweet for the price, and even the Black Truck is pretty sweet. And the GE300 does look like a pretty competent device overall. But, they're charging big-boy bucks for it. It's $900 on amazon right now, compared to $1100 for the Helix.
The thing is, Line6 has been making processors for a decade or two at this point, and has an established, long term reputation in the marketplace and so they've earned being able to charge top dollar. Even the Headrush pedals are based on a product with close to a decade of history behind them. But then for Mooer to step in with a product which is "adequate" but unpolished, but charge premium prices for it, is stupid. If they swung in at $500ish, that'd be amazing and they'd probably get incredibly good press, and they'd earn the street cred to release a high end product next time. But for now? I don't think it's going to go well for them.
Brutaly honest - that`s what we want.
Best review video ever
I mean.. in this price range as of today April of 2024 it cost 600 Euro, the GE300 must be the top of the line compared to other pedals that cost maximum 600 Euros right ? Even the GE300 Lite that cost today 444 Euros must be the best in that price range ? I have made some serious comparing between the multi effects in both this price segments and the conclusion is that the GE300 and GE300 Lite would most likely be the best value for the money. There is some really great IR´s out there, Ola England has some great ones that sounds totally awesome. Even other IR´s that you buy is way better than the built in ones, that combined with the wide range of settings you can do on the GE300 and GE300 Lite is remarkable I think.. What do you think ?
In total honesty: no idea man, and I also absolutely don't care about this stuff anymore... this was 5 years ago, I haven't followed the guitar gear world in the last 2-3 years at all, so unfortunately I have no more opinion on this, sorry...
There seem to be a lot of noise about the 'tone capture' feature of this unit. What's your opinion about it?
Did they fix the led always on issue? That's a deal breaker! Good review!!
Apparently they fixed it by now with a software update I think!
mooer ge300 has tone capture feature which is usable on guitars and cabinets etc. That is kemper functionality in a much lower price range. I think this unit only needs 1 more fx loop and the ability for parallel signal chains. If it had those, it would be perfect.
btw Line 6 is Japanese (parent corp is Yamaha) while Mooer is Chinese.
Really impressed with your honesty man, thanks for the review, could you please guide me on what should I buy Mooer GE300 or Boss GX100 the Latest unit from the Boss? ..my main perspective is for live gigs. i want a processor which has amazing depth.
Thank you for honesty!
Very Nice and lookings honest review.many detailed points on Daily use that are notre focused on in other reviews.thanks
i wonder what are you playing on that gameboy advance..
awesome video!
Nice review ^_^
Simon X Don't trigger me 😂
Thanks for your review.
the buttons work fine if you use the mushroom tops
It should have lcd scribble strips above each button to say what is assigned to each button and then change colors to the strip if activated. Many digital mixers have these scribble strips.
Great review as always.
Btw have you ever reviewed the boss GT1 ? Entry price multi fx
Boss GT1 has 2 generic FX blocks for which you can choose a variety of boss effects (such as their pedals). The other blocks are preassigned (such as 1 NS block, 1 reverb block, 1 delay block etc). You can download tone studio software to look at the signal chain as it works without the unit itself.
I would prefer it had 1 compression, 1 chorus and 1 equalizer effect block additionally too. But you do not need these as often actually. For instance, you need OS/DS, chrous and compression to get a solo sound, you need overtone and pitch shifter to get an organ sound etc. But it would have helped definitely especially the equalizer. But you could put a real equalizer pedal to the output of boss gt1 maybe.
Strong points of Boss GT1:
It has usb audio interface connection to a pc (so you do not need a separate one)
Boss effects are quite good (from the videos on youtube, I would say Boss units definitely sound better than Helix units)
Simple design for amps (the amps work well for their intended genre but you don't have much choice as other multifx pedals -> this can be a con too)
It works with batteries.
Cons of Boss GT1:
It does not have so many buttons so a live use might be an issue, you need to prepare your patches before a live performance.
It does not have FX loop (GT100 has 1 and GT1000 has 2 mono or 1 stereo) so you can only add pedals before GT1 and after GT1, you get the idea. You might use a real tube screamer and real compression pedal before GT1 but you might also need a noise gate at the beginning.
It does not have IR loader feature. Mooer GE200 has so it might be a con.
Lastly and one of the most important cons are the screen is really from the previous decade. It looks like tetris screen. Mooer and Line 6 has colored screen nowadays, Boss really needs to update the screen. It does not effect the sound quality but why not look at a better designed colored screen?
i have AXE FX 2 and i get mooer Ge300 it is really not bad
Has a LOOPER which is appealing
Hi, thanks for the very interesting review, the "small pause" at 11:05 when turn on/off the switches... that really shock me!! (especially because you were activating just DLY & REV, maybe I could expect it from the section Synth but not here), did you find the same problem turning on/off other effects? Thanks
That sounds like a change in levels (db) rather than a gap. How do other modelers handle this? By the way, I really need to listen thru a great set of cans - double check. Pete.
Great honest review!
Anyway, have you tried out Boss Katana series and Zoom G5n? Would love to hear your opinion on those digital modelling devices and how far those are from helix. I have been thinking to add Zoom and pair it with my Katana or selling my Katana and its cab to buy Helix + cheap powered PA speakers.
Great video man thanks!
Excellent video !!!
Good review. Ill stick with the old rack stuff, ty
come on Line6 give this guy a unit!!!
I agree with everything you tell but! You should have covered the tone capture feature with either your engl or laney and talk about the organic feeling and if a good tone capture will get you to the next level.
How does it compare to the Headrush? There is just some idiot how says its ahead of the Headrush and at Par with the Helix?
Yea bro we really need honest people specially on review.... Thanks
the atomic amplifire is way better in that price range (and a bit lower) than the helix lt. doesnt have so many effects but sound wise it's way better
I second this. I wonder why no one talks about it.
Atomic amplifire only has good amp modelling, IR and drive, the rest of its effects are terrible for that price range
Mooer GE 300 sounds better than both of these you mention, except for the Headrush in my opinion.
That GBA is prolly my favorite piece of gear here! Haha Nice video.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts but I kind of missed the tone capture feature being talked about.
Thanks for the honest review. I'd love to hear one for the Ampero :-)
Good honest review ... Ive been thinking about upgrading to a 300 ... I love my GE 200 and have been using it live for small gigs (cover band playing everything from disco to rock) ... once you learn how to use the cntrl and merge (on the expression pedal) functions the Mooer units become very flexible! Seems like the 300 expands on this with, as you said better sound. I see a new Christmas present for myself!
I really like your reviews.
But is good to have different points of view. In this case i think you have too much focus in the Helix, and in my oppinion you are forgoting Boss Gt-1000, for exemple, that i personally think is superior to the Helix in most features.
But what i'm shure is that all these products are great!
Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺
I probably missed it because I was listening and not watching but were the audio samples all direct or did you mic? Thanks for this revoew
Just ordered one.
Only downside for me is no dual amps.
Would be amazing if they could add that in an update but it's unlikely.
See, I literally bought an HX Stomp for synth sounds.
Unfortunately, the Stomp is really really good at synth sounds, so that makes this unit a bit redundant for me.
Thank you for this vid and the aforementioned brutal honesty. I was on the verge of buying the Mooer Preamp live when the vids for this popped up. I have been debating since... but I think this helped clear up my doubts and suspicions. I like the synth engine as I think I would use it but the other effects are only ok and i have yet to hear the intelligent pitch/harmony feature which is very important for my live work. I think the Line 6 M9-M13 harmony engine is the best one out there right on the same level as the Eventide H9 but with a lot more control because of the interface on the H9. Thank you again for this great vid. I'm going with the PAL for its size and sound coupled with the M9 and finally the SD power-stage. Ultra compact live board for fly ins and daily gigging