Conte won 1-3 away at Udinese today and is back where he deserves, fighting for yet another Seria A title', and is doing it with a team that finished 10th in Seria A last season... ENIC OUT!!!
When stel said “fans” that will not mention levy when we win 1 or 2 games he’s referring to the likes of u sim hahaha. Everyone forgets where we actually are all because of 1 or 2 wins we are so desperate, he was spot on with that part
The only common denominator is toxic, negative mindset fans posing as supporters. They turned on Poch, they turned on Mourinho, they turned on Conte. Now they turn on Ange. Imagine if these turncoat DOGS were family members. Youd have to sleep with one eye open and never turn your back on them. But somehow they don't think that they are the problem and its everyone else's fault. And stop calling supporters fans. Supporters are supporters. Fans circulate hot air. Fans and supporters are 2 very different things.
The problem is the owners . The transfer window not getting enough ready made players were we needed relacements. What did Levy say after the staduim was built we would be challaging .Hes lied not buying enough quality. Till Enic and Levy go this club wont do anything .
You're absolutely spot on! We need owners and a chairman with ambition who actually sign world class or at least very good players in the transfer window, at least two in each window to reinforce the squad.😊 With our current owners they shop cheap and not so cheerful or they overpay for average players signing the likes of Solanke (who is maybe better than average), Johnson, Werner and kids like Gray and Bergvall. We should of course develop youngsters for the future but we need ready made as you said players for the here and now and in each window we need to be ambitious. Why can't Tottenham fans demand high standards and to see their club win Premier League titles and UCL trophies?!😅
Your right but in my opinion levy and ange are two separate issues. Long term no manager can succeed with levy's policy's but there's a lot of managers who would get more from the limited resources than ange. Ange has poor in game management and is tactically nieve
@@the-icephoenixYeah, Ange needs to adapt his tactics, drill the players in defending and scoring from set-pieces, improve the defending generally i.e. our players need to close down attempts on our goal which Porro didn't do against Chelsea for Enzo's goal for 2-3, he needs to improve with his game management particularly when we are winning by a couple of goals and keep things tight for a bit and he needs to make subs earlier in the second half and make the right subs at that i.e. not taking off Maddison in a game we need to score in.
I think Ange would have been heavily involved in the transfers I don’t think you can blame Levy. Recruitment was a strong skill he showed at Celtic but top 5 of PL needs an elite level of player. He needs to aim higher £400m has not been really well spent.
@@BradleyWynne_DavidBowiefan what amge needs is the players he has to fully buy onto the system and maintain the pressure right through the game the kids he has will also hopefully do that he needs another 3 or 4 solanke type player maintain the press right through the game he knows levy won't pay big wages yes you can sack Ange but nothing will change let ange try it his way you all talkabout how good pep is and how managers have worked Ange out yet they got spanked 4 1 4 0 4 1 4 0 so something is working pep lost one player and the team falls apart imagine if he lost haarland for a few months as well
The manager is not the main problem. The problem is the standard of player that the manager has to work with and that's down to the recruitment policy of the Board.
I agree with the guest's opinion. I loved Ange but now I doubt him because he has blamed Werner and Romero lately. He is just a good speaker. He is not good at tactics and selecting starting 11 players. Porro has been so poor all this season and Ange has kept starting Porro who has been the biggest problem for Spurs. That tells how poor he is. and Ange is not good at talking with players who need love and motivation from a manager.
Guys this video shows what Stell is talking about. As a fan base we are not united at all. Both Ben and Sim have just came up with excuse after excuse for most things Stell is saying. Ange and his tactics are appalling. The board are appalling.
100%. Said above. there seems to be alot of people who don't think you can be both Ange and Levy out. Ange isn't up to the job. Levy has backed him more than most managers but Levy needs to do more too.
@@Mark-pz9xwmakes me laugh that you people think poch marinho conte all had son and kane in their prime 40 plus goals between them every year and still won jack shite
Can we stop comparing Ange and Arteta. Stel hit the nail on the head.Arteta only survived because of the pandemic and that there were no fans in the stadium as it would have been toxic. Another major difference is Arteta had Edu and a board that were willing to back him and get the players he wants. This ain’t gonna happen at Spurs
one step at a time. let's get rid of the incompetent manager first. This is roughly the first manager after Levy solved his financial restrictions after putting in the stadium. Seems to me he backs Ange financially. He now knows he has the wrong manager. Let's see what he will do.
I don't personally think we have an amazing team, but for me, with a more realistic manager, you can still play attacking football, but someone that would pick his moments, drop a bit to conserve energy at times, be a bit more thoughtful in how he goes up against certain opponents, we probably would be in a pretty good position right now. I think we have lost a lot of games we just didn't need to because of Ange refusing to adapt. So for me, part of the problem has to go onto Ange. Im sure a better manager would have this same team, with the same injuries, in a much better position.
Tottenham have the 4th most losses in the Premier League in 2024. Do you know how bad that is? Why is this not being spoken about more? 14 losses in 33 games is absolutely abysmal. It’s disgusting. This is relegation form.
Stelios wants ange changing to a back 5 and making us hard to beat,,,, ie going out not to loose. negative crap football that has been the norm for 25 years. He goes on about arteta changing his whole team ,spent nearly a billion and still hasn't won the league , Give the guy the 3 years contract he signed up to and let him change the team to his.
Levy, ENIC and the sporting directors are the problem with their lack of ambition, we have spent considerable money but we've bought many average players over the last 24 years! We need to direct our frustrations with the complete lack of progression at Levy and ENIC and the players who are making mistakes every week! Ange isn't the problem but he needs to take responsibility as well and adapt his tactics, drill the players in defending and scoring too from set-pieces, make better subs and make subs earlier, he needs to adapt mid-game and utilise game management tactics when we are winning particularly, if Ange does that we would be far more consistent.
Or Don't take your seat for the first 15 mins each game..stay in the tunnel watch it on Telly screens..Then make your way back Chanting Enic out Levy out
@luxid413 LIVERPOOL GAME 3PM OUTSIDE THE GROUND A BIG PROTEST IS NOW ORGANISED..24TH MINUTE OF THE GAME THERE WILL BE BALOONS RELEASED AND ENIC LEVY OUT CHANTS TO FOLLOW...JOIN THE CROWD...WE MUST MAKE THIS A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE PERIOD FOR LEVY WHO HAD IT TO EASY SINCE 2019
Stel knows the deal, he has the stats and facts, he knows the club and Levy, and he knows football. His opinion matters because it is not based on false hope, feelings, and sentimentality.
@@LevyHappyClapper yes, like everyone, but as I said his opinion counts more than those.with false hopes, feelings, and sentimentality becasue he brings the stats and facts, he knows the club and Levy. I’m not getting through to you, am I?
@slashieboy Ndombele had even less games at Spurs ineffective and I'm sure he was on near the same money or more even. He was fat and lazy. That makes him worse
Yes you are right every manager has worked Ange out emery got smaked 4 1 he really worked ange out pep worked ange out 2 1 and 4 0 spanking your hero Pep looses one player the team falls apart imagine if he lost hahland also for 6 or so weeksthen let's see how good Pep is his club is under 130 charges great manager imagine if slot looses salah for a few months hmmm context Kate
@@katerixham711ersinally want ange to walk sorry runs away from this toxic club of ours and goes to a decent club with better owners and better surporters our club isn't good for any manager
If you want Ange out you do not have a grip on our history. When I was a small boy Spurs were the best team in the country. We were majestic, but still lost games........ Since then we have seen many sides win the league but we have always fallen short. Why is this? Because, even with Poch, we have always felt that the league title was for others. Ange believes that multiple league titles are there to be had - that is the difference so count me in.
I hope we can get out of this and, in the end, laugh this off while we are one of, if not the best, in the country again. Hope we get to those heights again, COYS!
If we can agree that a 'project' relies on improving players, this current managers way of working is not delivering that. If we stick with Ange what will the future hold for the development of these players?
Stel, he is just speaking what he thinks, he doesn't want to come 2nd he wants to come 1st, what is up about that? Simple concept, no? He made no promise.
Well, I want 1st too not 2nd. But can I guide spurs to league title and trophies? Absolutely not. I'm just a big mouth dude and so is Ange. But I know my limitations but Ange doesn't. He knows nothing about tactics - just listen to what he said after game - "tough game", "close game", "mentality not right" etc. They are always general and generic. He can't analyse what is going on the pitch. Try listen to Slot and how he analyse the game afterwards and what's impacting his game. Ange does not know tactics full stop. Let's change manager.
@@konge108 It's not the opinion that is the problem. The problem is the person appearing in it and the community he represents. He doesn't operate in good faith. That community is silent when we play well and as soon as we lose a few games they jump on everyone. For an example, after the arsenal loss, the guy in this video called out Odobert, at that time Odobert had played a total of 163 minutes, remind you that he is 19 years old. I can go on but you get the point.
In you’re opinion! Give you’re head a wobble! 🤦♂️ 5 disgraceful performances 5 average performances and last years fall off was a joke!! some players are worse this year than last year!
This guy can’t be real man “I just want winning football” Managers he names: Iriola Marco silva Gerona Manager Those are some real winning manager names stel, Ange has won more than all those managers combined 👍🏻. Love how he uses his own Managerial experience to relate to pro football manager Ange postecoglou. Grow up baldy. Absolute doughnut man, go support that lot down the road if you don’t like spurs.
Stelios as a man as a manager isn't good enough to judge any one he has never coached at any decent level Ange would lead syelios to the well and not let him drink
C'mon lads give Stel a break. He has said if Ange goes he should be replaced by a manager who does not only play one way. If we get a manager is one who has good in game management, and plays players in their proper positions, and doesn't flog the living daylights out of them with his philosophy of we train as we play so they're at breaking point going into a match; then we can be very competitive with the squad we have. Bit of common sense to go with the philosophy/principles, one being to adapt so every man and his dog can't take advantage of the way you set up, and have a game plan to exploit the opponents weaknesses. Shouldn't be so hard for a Brilliant Guru like Ange, but hang on a minute it is to hard for him, my bloody bad !!
Yes you are right all the managers worked Ange yet emery got spanked pep got spanked they really worked him out Pep looses one PLAYER RODRI and the whole team falls apart imagine if he also lost haarland for 2 or 3 months mmmmm
Ange will ruin the team. You will see. He is too stubborn and extreme. How many more players will be out because of the injuries caused by his extreme high line? May be four more???😂😂😂😂
What does the extreme high line have to do with injuries? Being further up on the pitch doesn't magically make them more prone to injury. We don't even have the highest line, Barcelona plays with a lot higher of a backline than us. At least be correct.
@nok9979 if you have to sprint back every 5 mins when we lose the ball your gonna pull hamstrings. If your running up and down at full speed throughout the match with or without the ball you get tied and tied players pick up injuries
this guy wants the girona manager? they have 6 wins in 17 games and lost to 10 men today. he immediately started stalling when you asked him what manager he wanted instead of ange, because this guy has no analysis except that we are extremely bad right now.
I agree and that is the problem with what Stel is saying. I think he makes some valid points, but he didn't have a solid, realistic answer to who he thinks would be a good managerial replacement. Who in their right mind would want to come to this team and work in this environment? The later days of Poch, Mourinho, Nuno and Conte have all experienced what Spurs have to offer and now it's Ange. Why does Stel or anyone else think that history is going to change with a new manager? There is a problem with this club and everyone knows what it is. Changing the manager will just result in the fans turning against that manager in a 1.5 - 2 seasons while Levy, the sith master, manipulates them all. I don't have an answer, but I have learned to manage my expectations where Spurs are concerned.
@@slashieboy They finished 3rd last season with 7 losses throughout. They already have 7 losses this season and by no means are doing well. Funny you are talking about Girona like plucky underdogs when they are part of CityGroup.
Who cares if a better manager gets us Europe. Levy won't back that manager if he gets us into Europe. The club is going nowhere under this ownership who are blatantly fleecing the fans as they refuse to compete.
18:49 Stel is absolutely right here too, with the Alan Sugar example. You CAN make a difference with unity. Look at Aston Villa fans refusing to pay for tickets in 1992/93 when Chairman Doug Ellis raised the prices! Villa Park was practically empty of fans until he relented around October time! The message sank in! And it COULD with unity - against Levy & ENIC
If people say ange out for tactical reason, I cannot 100%agree cause the depth is shit, but as stel said resigning temu werner is a sackable thing. The summer transfer showed that ange is a yesmen
It’s so depressing that ultimately everyone, Ange in or out, knows we’re not going to achieve anything. “Nobody can achieve anything at Spurs” We are basically irrelevant and just there to make up the numbers. Such a sad state
I cant wait to see you guys eat humble pie when Ange gets this team through this tough time . He is the mentally toughest managers and doesn’t give up just because some doubters do believe in his style of coaching and his way of building a side that will become a force to be reckoned with . Let the guy finish his project , and just because he has had a horriffic run of injuries which are the worst in the league . If you keep expecting a quick fix to a long term problem . Your club probably deserves to be where it has over the past decade .
No fan deserves the utter rubbish that comes from Anges mouth, Liverpool have 7 injuries and are top of the premier league and champions league. Cut the crap, cut the excuses and look at all the relevant data, then come back and give a genuine reason as to why we are abysmal…
I'd say stick with him till the end of the season, he has put Tottenham on the front foot, when Spurs win they win by a few goals, when they lose it is just by a solitary goal, the goal difference for the results is crazy.... the games against Villa, West Ham and City were fire...
Wtf we are not on the front foot for over half the games this year! 5 disgusting disgraceful performances 5 average performances we can’t retain the ball or play out from the back a few players have got worse and he will die on his sword!
30:50 - I agree with Sim here though - there is no advantage in sacking Ange now - its too soon in the season and constant sacking only really plays into the hands of Levy anyway - because he's been using previous managers - top managers like Jose and Poch as scapegoats before sacking them - diverting blame away from himself.
Spurs shd stop this try and error theme,get Potchettino back. Potchettino is one of us, part of the family! The recruitment team headed by Lange, is doing absolutely nothing to get in better players. Start by going for Eberechi Eze in January. For heaven's sake, why is it that Djed Spence was not registered for Europa, and also not being used in the premiership games?????
Poch is the manager of the USA why would he come back to Tottenham? Levy never wanted him when he was free before he went to Chelsea, I wouldn't want Poch to come back and work for that useless owner again.
What is there to be positive about? Why don't you happy clappers see that being negative is because we care about the club the most which has failed for 24 years under levy and enic
If fans are Ange out I think it is mainly because he has been protecting the ownership by saying it is all on him. Ange should go because it is obvious he is a YES MAN !!
Stelios is absolutely spot on with everything we say. I realise the ownership is crap, I realise we have injuries, but another manager could so much better with what we have. We need the entire south stand to repeatedly sing Levy out, but our supporters lack the passion. This lack of passion was evident when Levy wanted to take us to Stratford. The protests consisted of about 20 people.
Conte and Mourinho were so called better than Ange and didn't do better than Ange. They also had Kane and Son in the same team and in my opinion better players. Overall our team may be a better team now which is debatable, but with Kane and Son how can you not win a trophy?
@@pyrrhusepirus7181 Jose lost 17 games in 69, Ange lost 19 in 47. Nuno had a better record record after being sacked after 12 games than Ange did in the first 12 games of this season. His records has been absolutely awful, and can't understand anyone defending him.
So we have a shallow squad with endless injuries, a manager who is a tactical moron, and a chairman who only cares about money. What have we done to deserve this? I don't understand Sim's blind faith
Seems to be a lot of fans who think you can't be both Levy Out and Ange Out. Levy hasn't done enough in thw past, even though he's given ange £330 million already, but Ange isn't up to the task either.
34:00 - Stel, although Ange may have gotten behind the players that were signed (think of the uproar if he would have done differently). I don't believe that some of those players were his first choice signings. We sign players on a budget because that is the structure that Levy has put in place. We could have gotten Neto or Eze, but we didn't. Instead we have Werner, who is probably a really nice guy, but his football is not the best. Think of what the problem is with this club and realize that it will always be a problem until it is removed. Ange isn't the real problem and I think there are a lot of fans that realize this which explains why they support Ange with their loyalty. Also, concerning Ange stating that he wants to win. What do you want him to say, "I think we should be mid-table for a couple of seasons"? In order to be a winner, you have to think like one. That is what Ange was trying to convey to his players. To settle for anything other than victory, is not worthy of a professional footballer.
Mr Levy and the board...We don't care about the Stadium, training ground, F1 track, skywalk, future hotel etc. There is no point in these unless they are used to improve the 1st team. The game is about glory. To dare is to do. We just want to win. Do you?
Sick of people thinking a new manager means starting from the beginning. The last time we qualified for CL was because of a mid season sacking & the last time we won a trophy was because of a mid season sacking.
@@konge108 I agree, i want the board gone but if a new owner came in right now the first thing i'd want them to do is get a new manager. So tho the board are the overall problem, Ange is still the immediate problem that can be addressed right now.
You just simply cannot keep sacking managers, we know the huge time it takes to keep rebuilding. Ange needs the right players it’s simple and a big squad to work with. He doesn’t need to change his system since it’s philosophy, he has adjusted his system to play not so a high line. We have to see it out with Ange, this team is nowhere near the end result of what he wants. It’s still the middle of a rebuild. If we don’t see it out with Ange we will never know. Therefore see it through. We are talking about trying to build a winning team which takes time, Ange needs 2 more windows before we can really judge his football, yes we are struggling right now but it’s not Ange’s fault. Creating a toxic environment is NOT the answer, supporting the manager and the players is the best way to help us get out of this.
Seems like what this guy is saying is just repeating what we all been saying for months/years … Werner levy Enic…🤔 no Harry Kane …I feel. Like this video is a copy from the past 😂
A lot of Aussies and tourist transient fans in the comments as well who will leave when Ange does too. Not many who are in the stadium loyally travelling hundreds of miles from all over the UK to games can be pleased with this manager…..
Werner is the kind of signing Levy can never resist, the gamble, Levy loves it, he’d sign Ronaldinho today if he could just because 20 years ago he was the best player in the world
When Ben was saying if Ange carries on like this for another 3 or 4 weeks he will lose his job in my opinion he's giving insight into him and Sims private conversations off camera. They can't come out and say levy or Ange out due to sponsors and perks.
I don’t know why there is such loyalty by parts of this fanbase to Ange. He’s never been a loyal manager himself, had he done a good or a great job, he’d of been recruited by United. He’s never stuck around anywhere he’s been and if he does do a good job after all the backlash. Trust me he will jump ship the very first chance he gets.
However much I dislike Werner as a player, I believe Ange was completely wrong in throwing him under the bus ! - his criticism should have been kept as private ! - he’s obviously low on confidence and hopefully he will be returned to Leipzig in January ?
If we sack the manager every 1.5 years when we do find one we like, he won't want to join. Let the season finish then if he hasn't succeeded there will be more managers to choose from, including Poch after the world cup.
It "feels like" red flag N°1. No mention of what these counter points are, Red flag N°2. "picking up" what with a divining stick or through a medium? Red flag N°3 Stelios spitting facts about the happy clappers and happy clapper N°1 comes back with "feelings" and no counter points but some paranormal stuff
@@VisualWizard79 You mean, being alive in all Cup competitions and within distance of top 5 is an unreasonable counter point ? I find it crazy that a section of fans seem desperate for their team to lose so they can say "See I told you Ange was no good'...
Ange has a bigger PR team on social media. The way his wasting our games no way there are so many Ange-in fans defending him. May be there are still some fans not want him sack - but they would be silent. No sane person would want to come out to defend the indefensible.
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Conte won 1-3 away at Udinese today and is back where he deserves, fighting for yet another Seria A title', and is doing it with a team that finished 10th in Seria A last season... ENIC OUT!!!
When stel said “fans” that will not mention levy when we win 1 or 2 games he’s referring to the likes of u sim hahaha. Everyone forgets where we actually are all because of 1 or 2 wins we are so desperate, he was spot on with that part
That's absolutely true, most of us Spurs fans are guilty of that.😮
@ sad but true bruva, we are craving some success lol
Roocky times sim? Its been over 12 months of rocky times.
Why do you think it will change?
The only bottom common denominator with all previous managers is Levy and Enic. It's beyond manager reach.
The only common denominator is toxic, negative mindset fans posing as supporters. They turned on Poch, they turned on Mourinho, they turned on Conte. Now they turn on Ange. Imagine if these turncoat DOGS were family members. Youd have to sleep with one eye open and never turn your back on them. But somehow they don't think that they are the problem and its everyone else's fault.
And stop calling supporters fans. Supporters are supporters. Fans circulate hot air. Fans and supporters are 2 very different things.
@daveb daniel is that you?
@@daveb5998are fans meant to be happy with 24 years with one league cup?
Ben keeps making excuses
Ben sim Chris cowlin and many others all make excuses there the problem.
The problem is the owners . The transfer window not getting enough ready made players were we needed relacements. What did Levy say after the staduim was built we would be challaging .Hes lied not buying enough quality. Till Enic and Levy go this club wont do anything .
You're absolutely spot on! We need owners and a chairman with ambition who actually sign world class or at least very good players in the transfer window, at least two in each window to reinforce the squad.😊 With our current owners they shop cheap and not so cheerful or they overpay for average players signing the likes of Solanke (who is maybe better than average), Johnson, Werner and kids like Gray and Bergvall. We should of course develop youngsters for the future but we need ready made as you said players for the here and now and in each window we need to be ambitious. Why can't Tottenham fans demand high standards and to see their club win Premier League titles and UCL trophies?!😅
Your right but in my opinion levy and ange are two separate issues. Long term no manager can succeed with levy's policy's but there's a lot of managers who would get more from the limited resources than ange. Ange has poor in game management and is tactically nieve
@@the-icephoenixYeah, Ange needs to adapt his tactics, drill the players in defending and scoring from set-pieces, improve the defending generally i.e. our players need to close down attempts on our goal which Porro didn't do against Chelsea for Enzo's goal for 2-3, he needs to improve with his game management particularly when we are winning by a couple of goals and keep things tight for a bit and he needs to make subs earlier in the second half and make the right subs at that i.e. not taking off Maddison in a game we need to score in.
I think Ange would have been heavily involved in the transfers I don’t think you can blame Levy. Recruitment was a strong skill he showed at Celtic but top 5 of PL needs an elite level of player. He needs to aim higher £400m has not been really well spent.
@@BradleyWynne_DavidBowiefan what amge needs is the players he has to fully buy onto the system and maintain the pressure right through the game the kids he has will also hopefully do that he needs another 3 or 4 solanke type player maintain the press right through the game he knows levy won't pay big wages yes you can sack Ange but nothing will change let ange try it his way you all talkabout how good pep is and how managers have worked Ange out yet they got spanked 4 1 4 0 4 1 4 0 so something is working pep lost one player and the team falls apart imagine if he lost haarland for a few months as well
The manager is not the main problem. The problem is the standard of player that the manager has to work with and that's down to the recruitment policy of the Board.
I agree with the guest's opinion. I loved Ange but now I doubt him because he has blamed Werner and Romero lately. He is just a good speaker. He is not good at tactics and selecting starting 11 players. Porro has been so poor all this season and Ange has kept starting Porro who has been the biggest problem for Spurs. That tells how poor he is. and Ange is not good at talking with players who need love and motivation from a manager.
Making things toxic is only going to risk destroying our club. As Harry Enfield once said, "is that what you want cause that's what'll happen".
Guys this video shows what Stell is talking about. As a fan base we are not united at all. Both Ben and Sim have just came up with excuse after excuse for most things Stell is saying.
Ange and his tactics are appalling. The board are appalling.
100%. Said above. there seems to be alot of people who don't think you can be both Ange and Levy out. Ange isn't up to the job. Levy has backed him more than most managers but Levy needs to do more too.
He is though. Good manager
@@Mark-pz9xwmakes me laugh that you people think poch marinho conte all had son and kane in their prime 40 plus goals between them every year and still won jack shite
Can we stop comparing Ange and Arteta. Stel hit the nail on the head.Arteta only survived because of the pandemic and that there were no fans in the stadium as it would have been toxic. Another major difference is Arteta had Edu and a board that were willing to back him and get the players he wants. This ain’t gonna happen at Spurs
You are 100% right Stelios, the fans are toxic and your leading these nuffies
I’ve honestly can’t take sims delusion.
It's weird, it's like sim and Ben seem like they don't want to protest and push to get the owners out!
They don't. Because they get there little gifts from the owners
one step at a time. let's get rid of the incompetent manager first. This is roughly the first manager after Levy solved his financial restrictions after putting in the stadium. Seems to me he backs Ange financially. He now knows he has the wrong manager. Let's see what he will do.
I don't personally think we have an amazing team, but for me, with a more realistic manager, you can still play attacking football, but someone that would pick his moments, drop a bit to conserve energy at times, be a bit more thoughtful in how he goes up against certain opponents, we probably would be in a pretty good position right now.
I think we have lost a lot of games we just didn't need to because of Ange refusing to adapt.
So for me, part of the problem has to go onto Ange.
Im sure a better manager would have this same team, with the same injuries, in a much better position.
More and more people are waking up to these facts! 🤷♂️
Poch was more pragmatic than Ange.
@@longbridge100 Poch had BALANCE
@ I agree that was my point. Great work Stel stay keeping it real.
@@StelTee79poch had nothing 5 plus seasons had Son and Kane in their prime and won absolute jack shite
@@StelTee79you people are dilutional
@@longbridge100 always 👍
Tottenham have the 4th most losses in the Premier League in 2024. Do you know how bad that is? Why is this not being spoken about more?
14 losses in 33 games is absolutely abysmal. It’s disgusting. This is relegation form.
And 4th best goal difference - go figure, it can't be all bad
@@J_D_M_CEven that will change in another few games.We will concede more goals
@@AminCoreaso basically you want us to concede more goals to further your narrative
Sadly Levy will go nowhere, but at least Ange should go by Monday if there's another loss. The players don't buy into Angeball anymore.
Stelios wants ange changing to a back 5 and making us hard to beat,,,, ie going out not to loose. negative crap football that has been the norm for 25 years. He goes on about arteta changing his whole team ,spent nearly a billion and still hasn't won the league , Give the guy the 3 years contract he signed up to and let him change the team to his.
Well said very well said
We only played crap football during the Nuno, Conte and Mourinho eras. We have normally always played exciting football! 😊
Levy, ENIC and the sporting directors are the problem with their lack of ambition, we have spent considerable money but we've bought many average players over the last 24 years! We need to direct our frustrations with the complete lack of progression at Levy and ENIC and the players who are making mistakes every week! Ange isn't the problem but he needs to take responsibility as well and adapt his tactics, drill the players in defending and scoring too from set-pieces, make better subs and make subs earlier, he needs to adapt mid-game and utilise game management tactics when we are winning particularly, if Ange does that we would be far more consistent.
Totally in agreement with Stel!
That's because youhave no football knowledge and follow like a sheep
PROTEST! = Boycott the games!!
Or Don't take your seat for the first 15 mins each game..stay in the tunnel watch it on Telly screens..Then make your way back Chanting Enic out Levy out
Wont work
@luxid413 We will make it work..No one is bigger than the Crowds
@@lnr243 We simply won’t. Too many fans.
@luxid413 LIVERPOOL GAME 3PM OUTSIDE THE GROUND A BIG PROTEST IS NOW ORGANISED..24TH MINUTE OF THE GAME THERE WILL BE BALOONS RELEASED AND ENIC LEVY OUT CHANTS TO FOLLOW...JOIN THE CROWD...WE MUST MAKE THIS A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE PERIOD FOR LEVY WHO HAD IT TO EASY SINCE 2019
Stel knows the deal, he has the stats and facts, he knows the club and Levy, and he knows football. His opinion matters because it is not based on false hope, feelings, and sentimentality.
He is just an armchair critic ...
@@LevyHappyClapper yes, like everyone, but as I said his opinion counts more than those.with false hopes, feelings, and sentimentality becasue he brings the stats and facts, he knows the club and Levy. I’m not getting through to you, am I?
@jammygitt yea until you bring up stats and facts that goes against his agenda then he blocks and deletes your comments 😂
@@LevyHappyClapperwell said mate iam still trying to find where this stelios dude has played and who has he coached
@@danx1486well said mate this stelios is evill
Excellent show lads! 🍿🍿🍿
Need more of these debates with Stel, Savva, Mr Box Office etc
At 163.000 pounds a week Timo Werner is the worst player we EVER had if you look at salary
Ndombele was worse
@@stephenparker8250 I dont agree Werner is worse we could have used Ndombele now while Timo Werner is totally useless
@slashieboy Ndombele had even less games at Spurs ineffective and I'm sure he was on near the same money or more even. He was fat and lazy. That makes him worse
You're nice and honest lol.😊@@stephenparker8250
@@slashieboyBoth are just as bad.😊
How can we win a cup when every one knows our tactic every Manager knows how to play us.Ange doesnt change anything
Yes you are right every manager has worked Ange out emery got smaked 4 1 he really worked ange out pep worked ange out 2 1 and 4 0 spanking your hero Pep looses one player the team falls apart imagine if he lost hahland also for 6 or so weeksthen let's see how good Pep is his club is under 130 charges great manager imagine if slot looses salah for a few months hmmm context Kate
Thanks Peter for replying .
@@katerixham711just my opnion Kate we all have opinions
@@katerixham711ersinally want ange to walk sorry runs away from this toxic club of ours and goes to a decent club with better owners and better surporters our club isn't good for any manager
@@peterkehagiasAnd yet we lose to Ipswich at home next we will Southampton will defeat us.
If you want Ange out you do not have a grip on our history. When I was a small boy Spurs were the best team in the country. We were majestic, but still lost games........ Since then we have seen many sides win the league but we have always fallen short. Why is this? Because, even with Poch, we have always felt that the league title was for others. Ange believes that multiple league titles are there to be had - that is the difference so count me in.
I hope we can get out of this and, in the end, laugh this off while we are one of, if not the best, in the country again. Hope we get to those heights again, COYS!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 you can’t write this stuff.
SIM - Ange is leading us to a relegation fight.
If we can agree that a 'project' relies on improving players, this current managers way of working is not delivering that. If we stick with Ange what will the future hold for the development of these players?
Stel, he is just speaking what he thinks, he doesn't want to come 2nd he wants to come 1st, what is up about that? Simple concept, no? He made no promise.
Well, I want 1st too not 2nd. But can I guide spurs to league title and trophies? Absolutely not. I'm just a big mouth dude and so is Ange. But I know my limitations but Ange doesn't. He knows nothing about tactics - just listen to what he said after game - "tough game", "close game", "mentality not right" etc. They are always general and generic. He can't analyse what is going on the pitch. Try listen to Slot and how he analyse the game afterwards and what's impacting his game. Ange does not know tactics full stop. Let's change manager.
When Ange moans publicly about Werner he is talking to Levy read the room ffs
That's the issue though. He says 'public criticism of me isn't helpful' and then attacks his own player publicly. Read the room.
Yet he keeps playing him ?
Why do you have this guy on. The tottenham away people are the most insufferable people in this fan base.
If you can’t handle a different opinion don’t watch the video. Simple! If Sim & Ben want him on, let them have him on!
CRY MORE 😂😂😂😂
Hate the truth then
@@konge108 It's not the opinion that is the problem. The problem is the person appearing in it and the community he represents. He doesn't operate in good faith. That community is silent when we play well and as soon as we lose a few games they jump on everyone. For an example, after the arsenal loss, the guy in this video called out Odobert, at that time Odobert had played a total of 163 minutes, remind you that he is 19 years old. I can go on but you get the point.
In you’re opinion! Give you’re head a wobble! 🤦♂️ 5 disgraceful performances 5 average performances and last years fall off was a joke!! some players are worse this year than last year!
Stel and Ben kept hitting on the key point without realising it, they are in the minority.
instead of Ange , put this negative whiner . he graduated from coaching courses and considers himself a coach
Stellios wants the job 😂
how miserable would that be
This guy can’t be real man “I just want winning football”
Managers he names:
Iriola
Marco silva
Gerona Manager
Those are some real winning manager names stel, Ange has won more than all those managers combined 👍🏻.
Love how he uses his own Managerial experience to relate to pro football manager Ange postecoglou. Grow up baldy.
Absolute doughnut man, go support that lot down the road if you don’t like spurs.
Couldn't have said it better myself well done buddy
Stel believes in his own bullshit lol
Stelios as a man as a manager isn't good enough to judge any one he has never coached at any decent level Ange would lead syelios to the well and not let him drink
C'mon lads give Stel a break. He has said if Ange goes he should be replaced by a manager who does not only play one way.
If we get a manager is one who has good in game management, and plays players in their proper positions, and doesn't flog the living daylights out of them with his philosophy of we train as we play so they're at breaking point going into a match; then we can be very competitive with the squad we have.
Bit of common sense to go with the philosophy/principles, one being to adapt so every man and his dog can't take advantage of the way you set up, and have a game plan to exploit the opponents weaknesses.
Shouldn't be so hard for a Brilliant Guru like Ange, but hang on a minute it is to hard for him, my bloody bad !!
Yes you are right all the managers worked Ange yet emery got spanked pep got spanked they really worked him out Pep looses one PLAYER RODRI and the whole team falls apart imagine if he also lost haarland for 2 or 3 months mmmmm
Stel is the realest guest you’ve had on this channel
He's the opposite of real. Pure grifter
The problem is the fans who follow the Epl have no patience, This project was always going 2 to 3 years to come to fruition.
We are 24 years into your 3 year project. Where were you 24 years ago?
"Project". One of the many favorite buzz words used by football fans.
A project is supposed to see progession. We've gone backwards.
Arsenal finished 8th twice when they got arteta, seriously, all you ange out are fools. New manager….? Who..
Since when is Arteta the benchmark?
@ since arsenal became contenders for the league
Well said but hey let's be honest we have to listen to these expert you tubers lol lol lol
Sim sounds very unambitious and defeated. Very spursy...
Yeah he's jaded
He always sounds like that.
Ange will ruin the team. You will see. He is too stubborn and extreme. How many more players will be out because of the injuries caused by his extreme high line? May be four more???😂😂😂😂
LOL! But I blame the medical team and clearly they're being rushed back too soon.😊
What does the extreme high line have to do with injuries? Being further up on the pitch doesn't magically make them more prone to injury. We don't even have the highest line, Barcelona plays with a lot higher of a backline than us. At least be correct.
@nok9979 if you have to sprint back every 5 mins when we lose the ball your gonna pull hamstrings. If your running up and down at full speed throughout the match with or without the ball you get tied and tied players pick up injuries
“Too stubborn” a.k.a wont set his team up based on the opinion of jamie o’hara and jason cundy
@bb5979 or setting his team up the same way every time regardless of opposition
this guy wants the girona manager? they have 6 wins in 17 games and lost to 10 men today. he immediately started stalling when you asked him what manager he wanted instead of ange, because this guy has no analysis except that we are extremely bad right now.
Girona is doing great compared to Spurs with economics they have a 14.600 stadium with no bars, fancy restaurants at all
I agree and that is the problem with what Stel is saying. I think he makes some valid points, but he didn't have a solid, realistic answer to who he thinks would be a good managerial replacement. Who in their right mind would want to come to this team and work in this environment? The later days of Poch, Mourinho, Nuno and Conte have all experienced what Spurs have to offer and now it's Ange. Why does Stel or anyone else think that history is going to change with a new manager? There is a problem with this club and everyone knows what it is. Changing the manager will just result in the fans turning against that manager in a 1.5 - 2 seasons while Levy, the sith master, manipulates them all. I don't have an answer, but I have learned to manage my expectations where Spurs are concerned.
@@slashieboy They finished 3rd last season with 7 losses throughout. They already have 7 losses this season and by no means are doing well. Funny you are talking about Girona like plucky underdogs when they are part of CityGroup.
Spot on!
Who cares if a better manager gets us Europe. Levy won't back that manager if he gets us into Europe. The club is going nowhere under this ownership who are blatantly fleecing the fans as they refuse to compete.
18:49 Stel is absolutely right here too, with the Alan Sugar example. You CAN make a difference with unity. Look at Aston Villa fans refusing to pay for tickets in 1992/93 when Chairman Doug Ellis raised the prices! Villa Park was practically empty of fans until he relented around October time! The message sank in! And it COULD with unity - against Levy & ENIC
If we don't win at Southampton, then it is time for Ange to go cos enough is enough
Even if we win he should go, get someone else in to try & salvage something out the season
@adamphillip5305 Does sacking the manager accomplish anything, does it bring back the 8-9 players out?
@nok9979 Ange won't change & he's arrogant
Even if there's a win against Southampton, Liverpool are next in the league followed by Forest.
Stelios has coached lol lol lol lol lol who has he coached whete has he played no one can give me an answer
If people say ange out for tactical reason, I cannot 100%agree cause the depth is shit, but as stel said resigning temu werner is a sackable thing. The summer transfer showed that ange is a yesmen
We have TOO many fans like Sim.. Just don't care and find any reason to "just back the manager" 😔
I think he goes after we lose to Southampton tonight or they might wait until the Utd game
Get stel vs Sean b. In a debate. Fucking fireworks 😆
@@mattmayhew5497 That wouldn’t end well😬 If we could’ve just had that without personal attacks😅
It’s so depressing that ultimately everyone, Ange in or out, knows we’re not going to achieve anything.
“Nobody can achieve anything at Spurs”
We are basically irrelevant and just there to make up the numbers.
Such a sad state
I cant wait to see you guys eat humble pie when Ange gets this team through this tough time .
He is the mentally toughest managers and doesn’t give up just because some doubters do believe in his style of coaching and his way of building a side that will become a force to be reckoned with .
Let the guy finish his project , and just because he has had a horriffic run of injuries which are the worst in the league .
If you keep expecting a quick fix to a long term problem .
Your club probably deserves to be where it has over the past decade .
Cringe 😂
No fan deserves the utter rubbish that comes from Anges mouth, Liverpool have 7 injuries and are top of the premier league and champions league.
Cut the crap, cut the excuses and look at all the relevant data, then come back and give a genuine reason as to why we are abysmal…
I'd say stick with him till the end of the season, he has put Tottenham on the front foot, when Spurs win they win by a few goals, when they lose it is just by a solitary goal, the goal difference for the results is crazy.... the games against Villa, West Ham and City were fire...
Surely youre not watching the games
Wtf we are not on the front foot for over half the games this year! 5 disgusting disgraceful performances 5 average performances we can’t retain the ball or play out from the back a few players have got worse and he will die on his sword!
I was onve critical of Stel, but i was wrong, apologies to Stell hes been 100% right all alomg.
A broken clock is right twice a day.
These 2 sold out faster than the PS5.
30:50 - I agree with Sim here though - there is no advantage in sacking Ange now - its too soon in the season and constant sacking only really plays into the hands of Levy anyway - because he's been using previous managers - top managers like Jose and Poch as scapegoats before sacking them - diverting blame away from himself.
Ange never said they were going to win the league in their first season, he said he wouldn't tell fans not believe in that.
Spurs shd stop this try and error theme,get Potchettino back. Potchettino is one of us, part of the family!
Shouldn't of sacked poch in the 1st place
Spurs shd stop this try and error theme,get Potchettino back. Potchettino is one of us, part of the family! The recruitment team headed by Lange, is doing absolutely nothing to get in better players. Start by going for Eberechi Eze in January. For heaven's sake, why is it that Djed Spence was not registered for Europa, and also not being used in the premiership games?????
Poch is the manager of the USA why would he come back to Tottenham? Levy never wanted him when he was free before he went to Chelsea, I wouldn't want Poch to come back and work for that useless owner again.
spurs fans - we just want our spurs back, we want to be entertained. also spurs fans - we want to know how to defend
Even though I think this guy is negative minded, I do agree with what he says in this video.
What is there to be positive about? Why don't you happy clappers see that being negative is because we care about the club the most which has failed for 24 years under levy and enic
16:50 This answer from Stel is an absolute gem 😁👍👍COYS!!! - LEVY OUT!!!! ENIC OUT!!!!!!!!!
Stelios isn't disputing our form under Ange, he is simply saying the guy is shit at his job, no flexibility is the #1 reason to be fired
Ben is starting to see it sadly Sim is still deluded.
Stel is 100 percent right, so many tottenham supporters are so happy to just mediocrity....
Sim is so deluded 🤣🤣
Thomas Frank it has to be. He would do well on smaller budgets
If fans are Ange out I think it is mainly because he has been protecting the ownership by saying it is all on him.
Ange should go because it is obvious he is a YES MAN !!
Ange won’t change
He is an arrogant person
I want him sacked
Who you want in
@@Tuan-FistofFury Just make Levy manager
It's only a matter of time don't worry.
Stelios is absolutely spot on with everything we say. I realise the ownership is crap, I realise we have injuries, but another manager could so much better with what we have. We need the entire south stand to repeatedly sing Levy out, but our supporters lack the passion. This lack of passion was evident when Levy wanted to take us to Stratford. The protests consisted of about 20 people.
Conte and Mourinho were so called better than Ange and didn't do better than Ange. They also had Kane and Son in the same team and in my opinion better players. Overall our team may be a better team now which is debatable, but with Kane and Son how can you not win a trophy?
@@pyrrhusepirus7181 Jose lost 17 games in 69, Ange lost 19 in 47. Nuno had a better record record after being sacked after 12 games than Ange did in the first 12 games of this season. His records has been absolutely awful, and can't understand anyone defending him.
I think Ange will go if we lose to Southampton.
So we have a shallow squad with endless injuries, a manager who is a tactical moron, and a chairman who only cares about money. What have we done to deserve this? I don't understand Sim's blind faith
Stel is a real dude
Seems to be a lot of fans who think you can't be both Levy Out and Ange Out.
Levy hasn't done enough in thw past, even though he's given ange £330 million already, but Ange isn't up to the task either.
Some great points Stel! Unless Ange adapts and changes, we won't win trophies !
You won’t even give him the chance, so there’s that… 🎪🎪🎪🎪🎪🎪🎪🎪
34:00 - Stel, although Ange may have gotten behind the players that were signed (think of the uproar if he would have done differently). I don't believe that some of those players were his first choice signings. We sign players on a budget because that is the structure that Levy has put in place. We could have gotten Neto or Eze, but we didn't. Instead we have Werner, who is probably a really nice guy, but his football is not the best. Think of what the problem is with this club and realize that it will always be a problem until it is removed. Ange isn't the real problem and I think there are a lot of fans that realize this which explains why they support Ange with their loyalty.
Also, concerning Ange stating that he wants to win. What do you want him to say, "I think we should be mid-table for a couple of seasons"? In order to be a winner, you have to think like one. That is what Ange was trying to convey to his players. To settle for anything other than victory, is not worthy of a professional footballer.
Mr Levy and the board...We don't care about the Stadium, training ground, F1 track, skywalk, future hotel etc. There is no point in these unless they are used to improve the 1st team. The game is about glory. To dare is to do. We just want to win. Do you?
Ange has a one track mind. Nothing changes with him. He is stubborn. Better off cutting loses and moving on. The club needs a new owner to succeed.
No wonder his internet don’t work the download speed can’t deal with his ego
Stel doesn't need the internet he makes a good living elsewhere this youtube shit is just a hobby
Interesting how whenever you and the other happy clappers get offended by fact, you resort to getting personal.
@Jahno71 why bring up what he makes? No shit it's a hobby
@@Tuan-FistofFury I don't what he makes ? and i don't care
%100 agree Stelios, our fans are not loyal. judge Ange at end of season, no excuses but have to take into consideration too many injuries.
Savva and stelios are the reason i turn off these channels
They have got to be related..
They are spot on with everything , what are you smoking? So dumb
Sick of people thinking a new manager means starting from the beginning. The last time we qualified for CL was because of a mid season sacking & the last time we won a trophy was because of a mid season sacking.
@@adamphillip5305 A new manager would do better with this team, but nothing will change drastically without the board getting out.
@@konge108 I agree, i want the board gone but if a new owner came in right now the first thing i'd want them to do is get a new manager. So tho the board are the overall problem, Ange is still the immediate problem that can be addressed right now.
You just simply cannot keep sacking managers, we know the huge time it takes to keep rebuilding. Ange needs the right players it’s simple and a big squad to work with. He doesn’t need to change his system since it’s philosophy, he has adjusted his system to play not so a high line. We have to see it out with Ange, this team is nowhere near the end result of what he wants. It’s still the middle of a rebuild. If we don’t see it out with Ange we will never know. Therefore see it through. We are talking about trying to build a winning team which takes time, Ange needs 2 more windows before we can really judge his football, yes we are struggling right now but it’s not Ange’s fault. Creating a toxic environment is NOT the answer, supporting the manager and the players is the best way to help us get out of this.
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I wish we'd stop these destructive debates and get behind the manager. What we're doing is my definition of 'Spursy'.
Bring back Potchettino!
Seems like what this guy is saying is just repeating what we all been saying for months/years … Werner levy Enic…🤔 no Harry Kane …I feel. Like this video is a copy from the past 😂
24 years rinse and repeat until fans stand up to ENIC & Levy
A lot of gooners in the comments pretending to be spurs fans, trying to keep ange and enic
You are not fooling me!
A lot of Aussies and tourist transient fans in the comments as well who will leave when Ange does too. Not many who are in the stadium loyally travelling hundreds of miles from all over the UK to games can be pleased with this manager…..
Werner is the kind of signing Levy can never resist, the gamble, Levy loves it, he’d sign Ronaldinho today if he could just because 20 years ago he was the best player in the world
When Ben was saying if Ange carries on like this for another 3 or 4 weeks he will lose his job in my opinion he's giving insight into him and Sims private conversations off camera. They can't come out and say levy or Ange out due to sponsors and perks.
I don’t know why there is such loyalty by parts of this fanbase to Ange. He’s never been a loyal manager himself, had he done a good or a great job, he’d of been recruited by United. He’s never stuck around anywhere he’s been and if he does do a good job after all the backlash. Trust me he will jump ship the very first chance he gets.
However much I dislike Werner as a player, I believe Ange was completely wrong in throwing him under the bus ! - his criticism should have been kept as private ! - he’s obviously low on confidence and hopefully he will be returned to Leipzig in January ?
We would be out of Europe already under Ange if the Europa league format didn't change, remember that. Ange out, enic out, levy out all of them
If we sack the manager every 1.5 years when we do find one we like, he won't want to join. Let the season finish then if he hasn't succeeded there will be more managers to choose from, including Poch after the world cup.
It feels like that people who are anti Ange just don't seem to listen to reasonable counter points.. that's what I've been picking up lately.
It "feels like" red flag N°1. No mention of what these counter points are, Red flag N°2. "picking up" what with a divining stick or through a medium? Red flag N°3
Stelios spitting facts about the happy clappers and happy clapper N°1 comes back with "feelings" and no counter points but some paranormal stuff
@@chrisgoods Which counter points?
@@mikezappa Ben and Sim came up with plenty of reasonable counter points.
Exactly the same accusation can be made against the Ange in crowd
@@VisualWizard79 You mean, being alive in all Cup competitions and within distance of top 5 is an unreasonable counter point ?
I find it crazy that a section of fans seem desperate for their team to lose so they can say "See I told you Ange was no good'...
The Amazing thing is if Ange was more tactically astute there would t even be a conversation about the squad
“Tactically astute” tactics havent been a problem for a single game under ange. You’re just bloody clueless
STELIOS IS 100% RIGHT BRAVO PLEASE LIVE HIM MORE TIME TO LECTURE US.
Chessington's no good stel I want to go to Thorpe park
Ivan toney ,Eze,Gallagher I wouldn’t want them seriously signing a player who loves Chelsea and even they didn’t wanna keep him is a NO NO
Ange has a bigger PR team on social media. The way his wasting our games no way there are so many Ange-in fans defending him. May be there are still some fans not want him sack - but they would be silent. No sane person would want to come out to defend the indefensible.