Motorhome Vs. Campervan. Does the Ford Nugget win?
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- We check out a 5 seat motorhome and decide if it beats the Ford Nugget. Is the Nugget still the one for us?
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We love watching your adventures and stumbled across them whilst contemplating on getting our first campervan. Eager to see your next one with an update on the Nugget. Our kids are obsessed with it and we’ve run out of videos to watch on here now!!!
Hi Chris, thanks for watching our adventures and good to hear you are thinking of buying a camper - as you can tell, we love it....the best type of vehicle we have ever bought and the kids love it! Your timing is perfect, as tonight we release our latest video - "Order Time!" for our Nugget. Tell us what you think, but my guess is that your kids will be wanting one even more!
WOW. The kids have just got in from school. PJs are on and they are exceptionally excited about another video. Lasts night video was your tour around Cornwall which is our normal yearly holiday! Exceptionally happy for you that you’ve ordered one and a wincy bit jealous at the same time! #popcornready #fridaynightcali
Chris Verrall that’s lovely! Enjoy the latest installment and our other episodes! More on the way soon....keep watching, kids!!!! (And make sure you get that popcorn!)
I think you put that story together really well and we all got to experience the dilemma you face. We had caravans for 25 years and then we discovered campervans. We have had more fun in our tiny van in one year than all those years in the caravan rolled together. Why ? - freedom, freedom from campsites, the ability to wild camp and the ability to go down roads we would never dream of with a caravan. A motorhome is a caravan with the engine inside. Its size is a trap just waiting to limit your adventures. I think you can already tell we think the Nugget is the right van for you and as you say they are built to last not sit on the drive for the vast majority of its life or the campsite because you can never park it when you want to. Follow your gut feeling as its always the right thing to do. Whatever way you jump we love your adventures 👍
Life is too short wow, fantastic points and lovely comments guys. You made me laugh with saying you got to ‘experience’ the dilemma - in other words we are sharing the burden of our problem! 😂 Your comment about “a motorhome is a caravan with the engine inside” hits the nail on the head and describes it very well. The point about Freedom is also a big one - just heading anywhere you like without feeling restricted or maybe ‘antisocial’ with a big vehicle. We in particular will be compromising space when buying the Nugget, but it is the only major compromise. The otherway around gives us a whole different ball game of compromises, and as you say, it is about levels of fun too! Our gut feeling is to go with the original plan - Nugget Plus here we come! Glad you enjoy our adventures (as we do yours in your fab NV200), 👍🏻 thanks for watching, brgds J,J,H,I&P.
I concur. Life changes though, especially as kids grow up. We had three kids, now down to a 17 year old and a doggo. You have to do what is right for you, at the time and the best fit with your wants and needs.
Absolutely 👍 and it’s surprising how quickly they grow up. I don’t think there is one camper which suits everyone all of the time!
I was interested in the Nugget also, but the price in the UK is absolutely outrageously eye watering. For the price, you can have a top van conversion from Hymer, Adria, Knaus etc. Pop top with 5.5m length isn’t that long. Appreciate the market for 5 travelling seats is limited. Check out the Malibu Van First Class. Separate bedroom is amazing!
Ross D thanks for comments, and yes the Malibu First Class looks fantastic. But no 5th seat option...😕. Yes, the Nugget is expensive but it does what we need it to. Thanks for watching!
So pleased you stuck with the van option. Interesting to see your comparison with the mh. Look forward to seeing your nugget adventures 😊
We are too (phew!)
Hi you guys, love your channel, you definitely need a bigger van and that one looked OK but such a difficult decision. If only vans had seats like comfy armchairs and sofas. Your kids are adorable. 👍💕
Wee Broon Van thanks guys and nice comments....Let’s hope the extra size and different layout of the Nugget works for us, and as you say, it is not an easy decision! We like your Wee Broon Toyota (particularly the interior finish etc) and have subbed 👍🏻. Good Vlogs...best regards, Jordan and the girls!
Hi. Great vlogs, thank you. Apart from winter use what advantages has the hard top Nugget Plus over the pop top Nugget plus do you think?
Good question. There are draw backs too, of course. But the main advantages are 1. Quieter, both when parked and on the road 2. Temperature regulation is easier 3. You can always stand up 4. Camping is discrete, important of at the side of the road, for example. 5. No worries about storms/the wind etc. Hope that helps!
@@CaliCamperFamily yes that’s helpful thank you
I had a basic berlingo style camper and I finally upgraded to a ducato based van conversion. Parked up it is amazing! So luxurious and with an "en suite" better than my home. It's 6m long and has a brilliant fixed bed with a proper mattress. The downside is that is a real pain to drive and I really struggle in little european villages. I'm thinking of downsizing again now because I'd just get more use out of it. My compromise will be a drive away awning I should think. I love the little nugget but it costs a crazy price in the UK. Happy hunting!
Ruby Mouse thanks for your thoughts on this, and you highlight the advantages of a smaller venicle well. And, it sounds like you are willing to compromise the extra space with your 6m van by dropping down in size again. Interesting that that you use the bigger van less than you thought you would due to the day to useability (and it being more of a headache to nip into town/park). Like you say, parked up is amazing, but then we can’t have everything and there is always a compromise! Many thanks for watching and commenting. Nugget, here we come! 😃
We agonised for a year before buying our Cali, and even now we wonder whether we would be better off in a Motorhome with a toilet and shower. But the factors that swung it for the Cali still hold true. It’s only 5 metres long so we can park it on our drive. The build quality is so much better and the driving experience is better. We often average up to 40 mpg, whereas with a M/H we would only be getting 25-27 mpg.
But then, there’s only 2 of us (plus our little dog)!
Hi Trevor, the word ‘agonised’ well describes this conundrum! Mostly, you feel pleased as punch with a campervan and then you admire the guy’s Motorhome next door for its simplicity when parked up. Then you remember you can park outside the Co-op, drive happily in the outside lane of the motorway and have a more car like driving experience. Then, on a rainy day you wish you had the u-shaped lounge and big integrated garage! We cannot win, but for us (and probably you too) the camper has a feel good factor and puts more of a smile on our faces...and that matters! We may have to go to a motorhome in the future, but until then the Nugget should deliver very well. Thanks for commenting and watching, Jordan.
Good discussion. We have a Ducato conversion and we totally agree with you concerning the poor comfort and refinement over long distances, not to mention the uncool 'old folkes home' venacular inside. Our solution is to plan to convert our nearly new jumbo Transit ourselves as these vans seem to mostly share the driving refinement of the Nugget. Incidentally; if we were less old and creaky we would definitely buy the Nugget. Hope you enjoy yours and happy travels.
Yes, it is amazing that these vehicles are designed to be used for road trips and the driving refinements are often overlooked by the industry, it doesn't make sense. Yes, the Ford base vehicles are one of the class leaders in equipment levels and comfort so the Jumbo Transit should be a good basis. We can't wait to take delivery of ours! Good luck with the conversion, J.
Good review. I agree from what I've seen that the Nugget is fantastic... Only wish they would offer these in the States. They would sell like wildfire.
Nice to see you back, good luck. We ordered a Cali after seeing you coping with five and whether our downsize from a Moho would work :-)
Peter Waugh haha...! Glad we could helped in your decision making process. I bet you feel like you made the right decision buying a Cali...👍🏻
Because the Ford nugget plus was not available at that moment we decided to buy a Hymer Sydney. It has 5 seats and its a short car , only 496 cm long, 205 cm wide and 235 high. With plenty of room. Its a pop top and the upper bed is very large. 210 x 150. We also use it as our daily car. We drove 30000 km in 2 year without any problem . The Hymer Sydney is a good alternatif for the Ford nugget.
A good alternative for sure 👍
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Unfortunately our Hymer Sydney was stolen a few months ago. We needed another camper soon because we made lots of plans for trips throug Europe this year and it is our daily car as well.
We were lucky to find a beautiful Nugget Plus with pop top roof and we love it!. The camper has automatic gear and 185 hp engine, thats super!
The roofbeth is very comfortabel. And we don't need an extra topper like in the Sydney. Dispite of the loss of our stolen camper we are very happy with the Nugget.
Great video, had similar thoughts as you but came to same conclusion. For now it suits our family of 4 to stick with current set up (a VW T6 4 berth conversion) and maybe change to nugget or VW equivalent in medium term and perhaps a motorhome in future.
Hi Alex, interesting that there is always a compromise somewhere. However, a T6 is a super nice vehicle and is genuinely useable day to day, especially as you are 4 in your family. As time goes on, the way you like to use a vehicle and the amount of time you use it for holidays/number of nights away often changes. For us, it has been an upward trend so having a little bit more space (5 of us) and an onboard toilet has seen us move from the Cali to the (pending) Nugget Plus. Good luck with the adventures! Jordan.
Great video, I have the same issue now as I have 3 x kids. Quick question how do you manage the sleeping arrangements for 5 people, do the adults use the lower bed and all 3 kids up top?
Hi Ian, we sleep downstairs and the kids all go upstairs (mostly). It works well, although there were a few territorial arguments at the beginning!
Are you getting the Nugget with the high roof? Would love to see a vid of whats that like inside.
Where2Next yes, we have ordered the Nugget Plus High Roof. It is an awesome vehicle! When we get it (several months yet) we will definitely be doing lots of videos for our channel! Thanks for watching! CCF.
I'm kind of dreading the time we have to think about parting ways with our T5 Campervan. Its an amazing setup and perfect for what we need. However, the kids (we only have 2) are growing up so fast so the time will come when we outgrow it.
Where2Next it was a tearful farewell to our beloved Cali...part of the family. I can understand why you would like to hold on to it too, the T5 is a cool Camper and delivers on most things. Good luck with your decisions in the future, it’s not straightforward!
We are in the same position as yourselves with our 3 girls. The nugget all the way for me its fabulous. Best of luck guys and thanks for the insight.
Hi Carmel, nice to hear you have 3 girls too and that you like the Nugget! It's probably the best option available for a family of 5. Thanks for watching and commenting, Jordan.
Ah Jordan thanks so much for your reply. We love watching your lovely videos making memories with your lovely family. Bless you all.xxx
@@carmelmurphy5923 my pleasure 👍🏻
Are you buying the Nugget in Europe? I had a mooch round here in the UK and I couldn't see it for sale anywhere, Ford are selling the pop top version but the configurator was down :-( Is the high top version Westfalia only?
Peter Waugh hi Peter, they are few and far between in the UK. They have been officially launched in the UK but not at all normal Ford Dealers. Usually, Ford Commercial Centres, and some are on the same site as the normal Ford car dealerships. Apparently Hendy Ford in Eastleigh has one in to see and are taking orders (according to one of our viewers comments). The Nugget range is all available through Ford only as it is Ford’s brand name. Some dealers might say they have never heard of it. In which case, they haven’t done their homework! Brgds, J.
That 5th seat. So dangerous....how can that even be legal? We too are a family of 5. 13 and 10 and 3. We are not as fussed about the kitchen as cook outside anyway, so have the Beach and it’s awesome. For now we can all fit inside to sleep....in the future maybe some will have to be the drive away awning...but also soon I’m expecting the eldest to be wanting more personal space for changing etc. But if want the kitchen, short a sprinter conversion (and even then hard to find 5) you only really have the Nugget....surely there are lots of families of 5 in this predicament!
We have a VW Coast and mostly when we go away with our wee grand-daughter we pull-up at beach car parks/forest parks etc., which have a height barrier, but as ye know, we can just slip under them. But, if we could afford to change we would definitely go for the Ford Nugget. We love the layout but would prefer the one with the elevating roof so we could continue getting under barriers (that's what suits us). We are no experts, so we would not be confident driving a 7m motorhome and it seems more safe to travel with your family of five in the Nugget. Best of luck whatever ye decide. 🙂
Pat Coburn hi Pat, thanks for the great comments. The VW Coast is a cracking camper! And yes, the benefits of not being restricted by a height barrier can be useful for sure. There is now a new LWB Nugget Plus Pop Top! We will hopefully get to see this soon and do a walk around video. I know what you mean about driving a 7m vehicle around, and it sounds like you use yours as a day van, so this is where the motorhome loses out. And as regards safety, you hit the nail on the head. It’s the Nugget for us!
@@CaliCamperFamily Looking forward to that review. Well done on the video.
Nice update. You scared me. I'm looking forward to seeing the nugget in action. Unfortunately you can't buy the Ford Nugget in Denmark.
Jakob Borg Andersen sorry we scared you! We nearly scared ourselves for a moment! Shame that the Nugget isn’t available in Denmark. I suppose you could do a personal import, but it is strange that Ford hasn’t brought it to your country. We can’t wait to get it, and for sure, there will be lots of new videos of it in action! All the best, J,
Yes I did think about importing from Germany. A little overwhelmed by the paperwork and the insane taxation.
Very interesting vlog, thanks
Very impressed with the Nugget. Like you I want the automotive quality and want to keep in touch with the fun camping style. I own a Cali for that reason. These van conversions and motor homes feel like they have reversed in to a flat pack furniture shop. Nugget for the win for me, happy camping.
Thanks for commenting and I like your analogy of the furniture shop! Very true. Like you, we enjoy the fun factor of a campervan. A motorhome also feels a bit grown up! Nugget wins for us too...best regards, CCF.
Like a Swiss army penknife it’s capable of doing many tasks and yet it still fits in your pocket 😀
@@nigelgordon4329 exactly! 👍🏻
Hi there, been watching your videos with great interest. Only just picked them up. with regard to the Giotti versus the Nugget. How is the upper bunk accessed?, presume that there is a ladder? The toilet is fine-ish but there is no shower and with three adventurous children like yours that may be a problem. but then again not if you are on a campsite of course. The upper bed in the nugget is a winner for the children but your bed takes a bit of putting together but as it is all about being out camping that is livable with. The third passenger seat on the Giotti is a no-goer for us. Storage in the Giotti is far more generous but it is down to the camping ethic again i.e. a couple of sports bags etc. Go on then.....go for the Nugget. For our end we are two old retirees who live in SW France and travel with our two cats in an Adria Coral Axcess 670 SL. Enjoy your travel and stay safe.. Glenys and Fred Chase.
Frederick Chase hi Frederick, thanks for watching our videos! The upper bunk has a half ladder that allows you to climb up on to the kitchen worktop and then hop into the top bunk. Works better than it sounds! The shower is on a trailing pipe and you can then open the rear tailgate and shower under it. Not ideal in various circumstances but can be made fun and at least there is option, especially for sandy feet at the end of the day. Our bed will take a bit of putting together, but it is no worse than we are used to with our California....like you say, it does have that camping ethic which we do enjoy. The extra seat in the GiottiLine was simply not safe enough. We have gone for the Nugget and can’t wait! The Coral is a lovely motorhome, we like Adria’s, their build quality and their use of fabrics and colours. In particular, the swooping roof line and skylights looks awesome. Enjoy you travels around 🇫🇷 France, best wishes from 🇮🇹 Italy...😎
Have you seen the Nugget LWB pop top. Still going for the plus?
Colin Rickman hi Colin, yes, the Nugget Plus LWB Pop Top is an exciting prospect for many. I think we’ll carry on as planned with the hightop due to all weather useability, possibility to install air con and more storage. We are hopefully going to view and film one next week. Let’s see! Thanks for commenting. J.
Looks great 👍 ideal for you , hope it goes well , will be watching 😎
Thanks for watching! 👍🏻😀 Brgds CCF
Why not tow a small caravan with your Cali then you still have the Cali to drive around in when on a campsite .
Lisa Faulds hi Lisa, thanks for commenting. We would prefer not to tow anything, and we want the kids to be under the same roof as us. Also, it is not as easy to stop anywhere and sleep with a caravan. It is something we have considered though. Maybe a small adventure trailer might work if we need to take more with us. Cheers, J.
Really didn’t like the look of those seats. I think Holly would have found that seat very uncomfortable. Hope you go ahead with the Nugget & have lots more adventures. 😃👍
Emma Paylor thank you Emma! And I think you’re right about that seat for Holly. 😀
Great video as usual. I think the 5th seat could be better and yes I also think everybody needs to be safe and comfortable for your long journeys.
I still think there's going to be a channel called the Nuggeteers, lol...
Russell Rivers-Scott there might be the ‘Nugget Adventures’ coming soon(ish)! We think the Nugget is as good a solution as the market can offer...we can’t wait! Thanks for commenting, Brgds CCF.
The other problem in the UK is the legality of car seats, and the children car SATs need a 3 point car seat not a lap belt. Which has kiboshed a few options we’ve looked at sadly.
But we upgraded our HBB booster seats to Chicco fold and go, because of how much they pack down :) etc
Do you know the Nugget is now available in lwb with the pop-up roof?
noname yes, thanks for that. It is a fabulous addition to the Nugget range. But, having had a pop top we have discovered its limitations, especially with the amount of camping we enjoy, all seasons. Hence, we have ordered the LWB hard top. Thanks for commenting!
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Seats 5 and sleeps 6. Known as the Terra Van in France.
Good video guys. 👍🏼
As you were already intimating...the Giotto motorhomes as good as they are did not tick some of your most important boxes.
First and foremost being the children and the fact that the ‘5th’ seat was in no way safe, comfortable nor enjoyable for Holly to travel in (not to mention her being apart from her sisters). The Nugget has them all sitting together allowing them to chat and have fun during your journeys. Secondly, not a great vehicle to pop down to shops in as opposed to the Cali (or the Nugget) plus far larger to drive on some of those beautiful, scenic (but narrow) roads in your part of the world.
The upper bed in the Nugget is massive and ideal for the girls fur many years to come and very safe as you know they are up above with you down below.
Anyway, all the best in your next ‘van’ purchase and I look forward to seeing what you decide on. Would love to get back to Italy soon (as we drove from Loch Lomond to Venice and back last year) but as for everyone, Covid-19 has just quashed any dreams of a return visit in the near future. ☹️
Stay safe and God Bless.
Paul
Three’s a Crowd hi Paul. Thanks for the comments and it is good to hear your thoughts. All your points are spot on, and they summarise the issues with the motorhome and are in line with our conclusions. Your point about Holly being seperated during travel is a good one too, not fun for her. Yes, Italy has plenty of small scenic roads / historic villages etc and we don’t want to buy something that is going to restrict our adventures. The compromise of less space in the smaller Nugget is looking like a small price to pay! And, we also think the top bed will be good enough for all 3 girls together, glad its just not us thinking that. Wow, Loch Lomond to Venice.... now that’s our kind of road trip, love it! Best regards, J,J,H,I&P.
Lovely to hear back from you.
My wife and I love watching your vlogs, not just the beautiful destinations (Elba being one which we would love to visit next year God willing) but your close knit family which we also have with our 12 year old son...most encouraging to see.
Look forward to the Nugget and more vids.
Would definitely love a camper but between renovating a Victorian semi-detached and my live music income being lost with Covid 19 restrictions I think it will be little while off...maybe a DIY conversion...who knows.
Stay safe and God Bless
Great video.... I work for the ambulance service we run Fiat, Mercedes, Renault and Ford..... The Fiat's are awful to drive always off the road, broken down, so I would never but a Fiat camper. Fiat stands for...... Fix It Again Tomorrow .
Yes, the Ford is fairly refined and car-like in comparison. Fiats seem over due for an improvement. We’ve covered almost 9k km since June and it is a joy to drive. Thanks for watching and commenting on our videos!
I'd also rather go with nugget plus. It is very well put together and easy to drive around due to its size. They fit worlds into a such small car and managed to make wide area inside the car as well. Good choice!
This one doesn’t excite us at all, really don’t like that 5th seat, doesn’t seem safe for Holly.
We think the Nugget is a much better option for you. We have a California, but sadly yours is too small now for your three growing girls. It’s done you proud, we hope you enjoy the Nugget or whatever you choose as much as you have the California.
Gillian H thanks Gillian, and you’re right about the seat for Holly, just not safe enough and it is surprising that the manufacturers decide to bring this to market. Nice to hear you have a California...what a vehicle! Best decision we ever made at the time. Now, like you say, we have more than outgrown it. It has seen us through lots of adventures and will be missed. Fingers crossed the Nugget delivers as the bar has been set high! Many thanks for your comments/thoughts, Brgds, Jordan and family.
Guys, are you aware that there is a plus version of the Nugget now that has the pop up roof? I dont know if that may work better for you?
Olga Clarke hi Olga, and yes, thanks for mentioning it. It is such a new development that little was seen of it until the Caravan Salon this week, so we have only just found out about it. We are going to see one on Saturday at the Parma Camper Show, 🇮🇹 Italy...we’ll report back on the channel after we see it....looking forward to it! Brgds, J.
Guys. Just seen a video of the 2020 Affinity camper. Many similarities to the Nugget but with a surprising twist. Not sure if 5 seater though. Worth a look.
@@robclarke4963 thanks Rob, what an awesome camper van. Enjoyed watching 'Alan Heaths' video of it thanks to your recommendation. Great to see fresh ideas, high build quality and innovation....those front seats that transform into bunks are awesome! Shame it hasn't got a 5th seat though. Thanks for commenting, J.
I think the nugget is more versatile than the motorhome.
Why dont you stay with the Cali? Maybe a Grand Cali!
ohh nei, just checked, the Grand Cali is only 4 seats 🙄
@@tomcatave this is the problem. You would think the 'Grand California' would offer us what we need, but it actually can carry less passengers than the normal Cali...I asked about this, and the Grand California has been homologated for 4 passenger seats only, so we can't legally put the 3 seats back into the cab either. All the best, J.
Trust me a MoHo limits your travel options, stick with getting a van and a driveaway
Peter Waugh thanks and it is interesting to hear your thoughts as a former motorhome owner...it makes us feel happier in our decision! Brgds, J.
Towards the end, you mentioned an ‘ordering a Nugget’ video - but I don’t see one? All I can see is the detailed review and test drive from the German show...
Robert Fenner ...it’s coming up on next weekends edition! Thanks for asking and sorry for the wait, but it is still on the editing table! Thanks for watching and commenting, all the best Jordan.
Cali Camper Family Thanks for this - and thanks for an enjoyable video. We’re with you on the Nugget Plus, and we’re keen. Are you based in the UK? We’ve asked Ford UK directly about availability, and they’re being a bit vague...
Robert Fenner hi Robert, we are based in Italy and our Nugget has been ordered from the Ford Main Dealer in Milan. However, I have heard of some Ford dealers in the UK being vague about a lot of the details as regards the Nugget. Some dealers have never even heard of one. If the Ford dealer in question has a commercial vehicle section, they should be better clued up. However, as you may know, the Transit is built in Turkey, and then transported to Germany for the the Westfalia conversion. Both plants were closed for at least 1 month during Lockdown, and the Motorhome and Camper van industry demand has rocketed. Normally, a 3 to 4 month lead time is what we understand, but this is of course likely to be longer at the moment. We can’t wait and we highly recommend one based on our research and experience with Campervans. All the best, Jordan.
Cali Camper Family Cheers, Jordan. It’s Ford UK itself that’s being vague - and the dealers know even less, as you say! Still, as you point out, none of this is surprising, things being as they are. Thanks again. I’ll leave you alone now. It must be bedtime in Italy 😉👍
@@blackjubilee Hendy Ford in Eastleigh have one for viewings and have 5 on order.
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Lose the matching glasses....! Very odd!!
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