Ashworth FIGHTS BACK! 😤 | Flex's View
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If Ashworth really thought he was sacked then he would’ve went to work with United right away lol
Newcastle paid £6M for Ashworth from Brighton, why on earth would they accept £3M and take a loss for someone with 2 years left on his contract just because Jim Ratcliffe said so? It’s absolutely bizzare. The NICE fans have said Ratcliffe wants everything for nothing and it’s so true hence him wanting tax payers to fund his new stadium.
as far as i heard they dont want 6 or even 7M they're asking for like 10 to 15M
@@zacneley4685 it’s all media that’s saying 20M and 15M - Newcastle haven’t said nothing, they will want more than they paid for him though. Why would they take a loss just to make ratcliffe happy?
It depends how Ashworth advised he wanted to leave. If it was notification by email, then he has advised of his intention to quit and it was accepted.
The stuff with Brighton, Newcastle paid the money.
Just what United need, someone that leaks things 😂
There will be content creators making out as if "all this drama" is typical of Manchester United, and they wish that all the off-field stuff was kept indoors and we can just hear about the football. Unfortunately, their livelihoods generally depend on MSM writing stories,from which they create content, which we, in turn, engage with! Once INEOS do get their act together, and the drama surrounding this club dies down, it will be interesting to see how the different circumstances affect the few that only thrive because the club has been so... disjointed for so long!
that aint even the funny part..
When there is no news/gossip..Content creators start complaining about not knowing what's going on..
Either way there will be drama
AFTV hugely benefited from that turmoil over the years and Ray Parlour called Robbie out on it live on Talksport and he really didn’t like it lol theres a certain other United Stand prat in the midst of all that right now…
@aurynwestwield1682 I agree that a couple of the big ones have benefited from it,but my main point is that we all play our part,and we are caught in a loop. MSM writes articles, and many are fabricated. The general public is aware that the articles may or may not be true,but it's "news," so it's a subject for debate,and content creators choose from the options available and engage with the most... engaging. So it's BS on top of BS,covered in BS!
Or maybe I'm just sad because I support Man U...😏
It is ironic that the very thing they want the club to fix is what’s earning them their bread.
@@aurynwestwield1682the media ie Talk sport LIVE for all this .. daily mail the SUN etc literally formed brands n shaped thoughts of masses .. its not changed n not going to .. talk sport etc r jealous of these so called prats n get u to fume at them .. what exactly does Goldbridge or Robbie say that Luckhurst doesn’t?
DAN ASHWORTH IS LIKE MANU'S ROOF......CANT HOLD WATER.
Dan Ashworth has no legs to stand on imo. If this news is true any company has the right to protect their own interests especially if there is a conflict of interest which is a breach of contract. Plus you are not sacked if you are placed on gardening leave as wages are still paid out to fund his ever growing garden.
Exactly so pay up 😂
INEOS are really proving themselves in competent, what a Suprise, 😂😂😂😢😢
The fact hes still accepting a wage from Newcastle would say otherwise
Well this aged well. Tapping up charge coming your way
People are blowing this out of proportion
Newcastle sacked him that's why they have been paying his wages and he has had plenty of time to resign, and the man has shown his integrity by sneaking around telling ppl their transfer dealings I know who I believe
These news prove that the news in the mooring is real, cause Dan didn't deny them
If newcastle thought Ashworth who was i a high place in the board and has access to sensitive information newcastle have every right to place him on gardening leave
Ashworth has also implicated barrada who should also be investigated
Ok, so the reason this situation is messy is because Man u have tried to do this all 'through the backdoor'. When Newcastle united went for ashworth from brighton, we approched the club first (after a head hunting firm recommended Ashworth for the position) We then approched BRIGHTON first to negotaite a price to buy him out of his contract, THEN went to ashworth with the contract an job proposal. He agreed and we STILL we waited for 6 months gardening leave before we could have him after all that.
Man united Decided to tap him up behind Newcastle united's back while he was STILL empolyed at Newcastle, Turned his head (because of sir dave brailsford being his mate) come join the project etc. We had strong suspicons he was being tapped up and therefore placed him on gardening leave as he is privy to HUGELY sensitive information about our club (Which newcastle is WELL within their rights to do because he is a NEWCASTLE united employee and still is WHILE on gardening leave).
Now Ashworth is saying 'wooooo this gardening leave is a bit steep mate!, cmon lemmie go to these guys we all consipried behind your back with for a few months!!! Dont be a mad bro!' and Newcastle are saying 'No, you have axcess to REALLY sensitive information about newcastle and are STILL on the payroll on your gardening leave'.
Now Newcastle have found proof of Ashworth commincations with Berrada and Man U while Ashworth was still an emplyee of Newcastle united, because of an email chain Ashworth stupidly CC'ed onto his newcastle account where is is talking to Berrada (who is on man city gardening leave an is not allowed to work for another club) and the contents showed not only was he being tapped up by Man U, but Ashworth was sharing details of contract details between Brighton an Newcastle. That information is not his to divulge to a thrid party coming in to try and poach him.
I would love to have the two clubs come to some soret of arrangment as tbh, this storyline is boring and being dragged on and now apparently through the mud.
However, Newcastle has been shown zero respect in all of this, from Man U or Ashworth, an yea i get it, we all point and laugh at each other and get tribal over our clubs, but make no mistake, Newcastle does not need to roll over accept some low ball comp offer from a director of football we chased for a long time (and at great expense) to have them and a premier league rival behave in this manner.
Dont get annoyed at Newcastle, if i were you id be annoyed at Ashworth/Beraada (and extension Sir jim etc) for being this silly in the way they have tried to approch this move.
Hope it gets sorted at some point, but the misinformation flying around this topic is mad.
Boom
That's beautifull
If the court says pay the money, then United pay the money and Ashworth starts because Newcastle got their compensation
Newcastle are willing to allow him to start straight away but they want more than 6M which is what they paid for him from Brighton.
That intro song is waay too loud 😂
ex city man tapping people up... no wayyyyyyyy
That thought occurred to me as well. Ethics are a sign of weakness in the eyes or Arabs who deploy an attitude that you do anything you think you can get away with. That is not intended as a racist comment, it is part of their culture. That mindset would have been passed on to Berrada. His soon to be ex club is as crooked as a dog's hindleg.
Newcastle had their best transfer windows before Dan Ashworth started so I think Newcastle will be OK over the summer. I wouldn't mess with PIF and their lawyers, the US government went after them for LIV golf and they ended up taking over the PGA.
There is no fight back. This needs to get resolved before arbitration. Ashsworth claim is just screaming desperate. Hes still getting paid, therefore hes not sacked as its stated. But the emails are evident. Man u have too solve this quickly. Newcastle are laughing right now
If he was “sacked” why can’t he just join man united? Surely there wouldn’t be an argument for garden leave if he was sacked?
you gotta work on the music transistions
Only Man Utd can have a DoF saga
He better be good
What we can be sure of is that he'll be better than the bunch of incompetents we've had for the last 10 years.
so if sacked why did man utd offer a paltry 3m in compo more like they are going to have to stump up the cash before arbitration as tapping up if found can lead to club getting a transfer embargo
He wants to leave for man utd while he is still under contract at newcastle. Of course newcastle wont let him go without compensation and any club would do the same. Ashworth has a little reputation of not wanting to stay at clubs long and makes the club look bad and not himself. Hes not worth all this agro. Man utd and newcastle fans dont deserve all this childish crap
Tyson Fury put up more fight in the 9th round
he can do what he wants but the facts are Newcastle paid 6m to get him from Brighton and there is no way Utd get him for anything less than what hes on the books as no court in the world would allow Utd to get a 6M asset for 2M as Ratcliffe offered. His book value is probably over 4 so thats the price plus a premium as he has to be bought out
The book value would be 3m based on half of his contract remaining after Newcastle paid 6m for his acquisition.
As soon as the transfer window closes in the summer, Utd will come up and Newcastle will come down and everything will be sorted. Newcastle will have spoilt Utds window and will claim victory. Newcastle can't claim that he was tapped up because Ashworth will say they done that when he was at Brighton.
Do you really think that Ashworth won't share his thoughts in an off the record discussion on what United should be doing on the transfer market this summer with his mate Brailsford in the privacy of his own home? I'll be shocked if that hasn't already been happening and Newcastle know this as well. The football industry has very few ethics.
Let's not forget a rat will do anything to survive
Ashworth has shown himself to be a man of low morals and if he emails to berrada are also true then a fool also. Why would we want someone like that as the club. We are literally trying to rebuild and remove playera with the bad character
It is flex's view of flexes view?...
What man u will get out of all this is nothing, Ashworth will get a 5 Yr ban, and Berrada will get a lifetime ban for his involvement in City's 115....up yours !! Hahahahaha
*if Ashworth statement is true, there should be no arbitration* Ashworth win!!
If you are sacked from a job then you are sacked, end of. But, because the snake Ashworth has done summit naughty, nufc won't sack him for that, they would rather he walked/reneged, then they don't pay his remaining contract. Here is a definition of gardening leave "Garden leave is the term used to describe the process where an employee stays away from the business for the duration of their notice period". If YOUR club want him then pay the money!
@@jvaddison *Paying the money is NOT the issue, it’s how much and MUFC have indicated the willingness to pay* Note my disclaimer if his statement is true, then what’s the reason for arbitration? Now me think you are some type of trader holding onto a position that will decay over time, so stay away from the business and you get nothing, his contract expire worthless. Is that what NCU want, NO, so Settle for the best offer you can get for a worthless contract!
@@georgelovell477 LOL, you know full well that his statement is rubbish. You are not reading my prev post properly! Again, if sacked, he can go wherever he wants to (he did not, he was placed on GL). Why would someone stick around if they were sacked. And when did MCU say they were happy to pay up? All i know is Ratcliffe is a business man who won't pay for FA, he just whines that we had snake on GL.
@@georgelovell477 you're entire argument is a literal boris johnson copy/paste of 'if I did break the rules I didn't mean to, I maintain that I didn't break any rule however if there's evidence I did break the rules then I will resign immediately' that's basically what dan ashworth has done, he knew full fucking well he was on gardening leave and not in any way 'sacked', this is his literal last roll of the dice in an attempt to save face publically because he knows he has fucked up royally, and from a legal point of view, NUFC hold ALL the chips and the only outcome of these hearings will be either MU are forced to pay out the compensation deemed suitable, or ashworth will be forced to buy out his contract himself and be allowed to join MU after a set period of time as determined by the courts, which might be a long time just an FYI, so stop trying to pull that 'if he's telling the truth' bullshit and wise up to reality here.
I doubt he'll be able to walk. If it goes to arbitration I can't see them side with Ashworth. He is still being paid and therefore employed by Newcastle. If he considered he was no longer working for Newcastle he shouldn't have accepted the salary they've been paying him. I think arbitration would see that as an admission by Ashworth that Newcastle is his employer.
Ashworth hasn’t got a chance, it’s all because ratcliffe won’t pay more than 3M when Newcastle actually paid 6M for him. He’s accepting a salary.
Any employee can be placed on gardening leave if an investigation is on going. It’s UK law. He hasn’t got a leg to stand on
@@HolloMollo8 it‘s just that Newcastle want 20 mil which is completely insane
I think the point of Ashworth taking it to arbitration is just an attempt to make Manchester United stick with him. They don't want to pay the full compensation fee,and they aren't happy about the length of gardening leave. Ashworth wants arbitration to make one or both smaller,small enough that INEOS doesn't look like a soft touch. It's plain to see that Ashworth's(or any other competent professional of his ilk!) addition to our executive structure will cut our wastage within the transfer market, by much more than the full fee within one or two windows, and my main concern is that arbitration will not speed up the process at all and INEOS are planning to use (talk of) this process as a "contributing factor" later on,to justify all sorts of shenanigans that may occur this summer. For example, if excess deadwood remains or obvious targets are snatched away early,then the fact that our attention was focused on creating the right structure for the future could be seen as a relatively plausible excuse for the lack of activity. I'm still not convinced that INEOS have anywhere near the sense of urgency that the average fan has... only time will tell.
@@harrysportello the media reported £20M, not Newcastle. They want between 8-10M
@@edbarrett7692 Ashworth is a good mate of Brailsford. There is nothing stopping Brailsford from visiting Ashworth at his home where they can share their ideas on what United should try to do in the transfer market this window. Everything would be off the record, but Brailsford would pass the information on to the new football department's brains-trust to do with as they please. Not ethical and illegal, but almost impossible to prove and I'd be surprised if it isn't already happening considering the football world is full of opportunism. Newcastle know this and it is in their best interest to not be paying someone a large salary when they might already be working for a competitor off the books. Newcastle can push this for as long as they want, but when someone is eager to leave they are negotiating from a very weak position. Ratcliffe is also making a public statement that United won't be extorted out of money under his watch. Hopefully the days of paying he United tax are behind us.
Always drama with this club im tired
Newcastle small club in the northeast 😂
Well, at least they don't run 'cap in hand' to the government to get money from the tax-paying fans of other clubs in order to build their 'Wembley of the North'.
Man utd allow woman bashes in club broken roof , tap up and man u should be punished
Yet your club is desperate for their director so who is smaller
@@obiwankenobi7425 are you saying man united are a smaller club than Newcastle? Please elaborate in which metric Newcastle are bigger?
Man u is a big club by name
They're not moving like a big club anymore
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I'll be real this doesn't bode well for my trust in them.... If you're in a contract 101 is get a burner and only use that to communicate nothing else.... Have an "assistant" at the club/business you're trying to go to who handles all the paperwork... Leave no paper trail on your personal devices
Its almost embarrassing, for them to be mised up like this
I dont trust Ineos at all yet. Berrarda and ashworth already made a blunder regardless of anything which doesnt bode well as far as getting fans on side. Furthermore Newcastle have nearly signed that fulham centreback Tosin on a free a player who we must be looking to sign esp on a free. Prem proven aswell. We miss on that opportunity aswell. Ineo must show us why we should trust them
Is this guy really that good ?
Can’t really see see why Man U going for this guy
united will bend over like it always does. They are so poor at negotiations. remember they spent £55M on mason mount when no one else wanted him. jusr pay NUFC £20M and move on
The United of old will change now that Ratcliffe has full control of the football department. That is exactly why this is playing out the way it is. No more wasting copious amounts of money and no more United tax. The reason Ratcliffe bought in was because the club was extremely poorly run and he could see how he could make a good profit by overhauling the football department and installing capable people.
Ashworth is under contract to Newcastle until 2025 and shouldn't have been talking to any other potential employers. Simple as that .He agreed to such when he signed and accepted higher wages as compensation. Man Utd should have approached Newcastle before they did Ashworth. That is the rule. Ordinary folks like us have short contracts where we give an agreed short notice period.