Andy Goldstein SLAMS Barry Hearn Over Rumours The World Snooker Champ Will MOVE From The Crucible 🎱
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Snooker is a TV event. It needs TV money, not gate receipts.
Correct
With an extra 2000 tickets at £100 each you can make £200,000. 17 days that's £3.4 million.
£3.4 million EXTRA remember. The BBC doesn't even pay £3 million for the bundled rights to show all THREE of Snooker's biggest tournaments.
@@liamdevine8063100 quid??? No chance
Yeah I’m not understanding Barry’s reference here? Unless China or Saudi are willing to “bung” him a few million
Well done Andy Goldstein.....the Hearns don't listen to music at home, they have a recording of a till ringing.
Pink Floyd - Money. That till sound at the start of that song was recorded at Barry's first business.... 😉
It's a business. You're living in a fairytale land if you think there is anything wrong with what he said here.
That's business
Wouldn't you? I certainly would. It's a business?🤣
The players are the ones pushing for it too. Andy saying it won't be seen as the world championship if it moves, the players won't turn down the money from the Saudis or Chinese to continue playing at the cruicible for free. So it's wherever the players are.
Money, money, money, money, money, money, money. Corporate greed has ruined football, it's ruined F1 and even snooker isn't immune. ☹️
Like he said, if he doesn't, someone else will
What do people go to work for to earn money, so what's the difference if your a professional snooker player , if there's more money to receive your gonna take it , just like Barry says it secures their family's future
and yet we all still tune in!
Your only jealous you broke
My late grandfather used to say as soon as u bring money into sport that will b the DEATH of ALL sport and how TRUE those words have proven to b!People throwing matches,u name it ....ALL FOR MONEY!Wheres the integrity @?U dnt even know what u watching anymore ...did that player win,that team win .....or did they throw the game?Disgusting and they fleece the fans.....for what ,for WHAT?😡😡😡😡😫😫💀💀💀💀💀👁👁👁👹😈👹👎👎👎👎
I could sell 5000 tickets a day. Lies. There’s empty seats most matches.
i was thinking that myself if you have a 2500 seater stadium and the quarter finals aint selling out maybe he needs to promote his product a bit better
There are empty seats everywhere in the Crucible even for todays final. Imagine all the empty seats there would be in a 2500 seater during the 10am sessions
If in China, you would fill 50,000 seats btw
Empty seats doesn’t mean tickets not sold… Don’t be naive.
@@fromtheterraces4747 what does it mean then? They bought a ticket but couldn't be bothered to go in the end?
Barry is the living definition of a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing
He dines out on nostalgia with his silly little cliches and boring anecdotes but he doesn’t really feel what he’s saying, it’s all BS.
@MathewParker-by4nx He's just lacks class, always think of snooker as being a classy sport. Barry always forgets to mention the main objective for himself, what he will make from the move
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Taking from another channel, get your own work
@@TimComley Has Oscar Wilde got a UA-cam channel?
There's a lack of Snooker clubs and British Legions with Snooker tables these days when compared to the old days so the conveyor belt of up and coming British talent, will inevitably dry up.
Sad but true.
When you listen to Talk Sport live, you realise that the social media team write these titles as click bait. The chat was very friendly & Barry is taking Andy on a feebie jolly to the US to take part in an 8 ball pool tournament!
You could listen to this and get the exact same impression. Obviously a site that benefits from clocks are going to click bait titles, it's not like they said they had a fist fight on set 😅
We're in a clickbait society
Shocking.
Barry would sell his parents to the highest bidder!!
As long as he could eat a bacon role...
Don't be silly, why don't you just go to work for free.
Whether you admit it or not, it is really about money. Reason why the best in anything make to get the most money they get for there service and would go to almost anywhere that gives them the highest pay.
Harland, Messi or Ronaldo won't decide to go to Everton because they love Everton. They will go only because Everton would offer them the most money. That does make them greedy
@@yemi9196💯
@@yemi9196 WHAT A RIDICULOUS COMMENT.
@@yemi9196😂😂
@@yemi9196 noone works for free bonzo! that would be slavery and also illegal unless of course you wanted to as a free gift! :)
Barry Hearn: "No problem with me. You can't eat a trophy, son." Hahahaha. Gotta love Barry!
Next time Barry wants a bit of painting done you know what to charge half a million for a days work then see what he says 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bad comparison, top level sport is the elite of the elite of the elite and of all sports snooker is one of the most difficult sports to play at a decent standard.
Barry Hern - revolutionary business man who has made snooker what it is
Andy Goldstein - snooker fan
Used to get £147,000 for a maximum break. In the 1980s. Huge money.
The only change I like is that in my pocket, but I think the days of SWC at the Crucible are numbered.
I go the world snooker championship every single year. I go because I love the atmosphere & the fact that the venue is small & you can feel the pressure of the players. If it moves to anything above 1000 capacity, the masters will be the new world championship in my eyes. If the world championship moves from Sheffield, I hope the players make the masters the sought after trophy.
I agree with Barry. But it will only work and keep it's magic if the seats are filled and people don't clap every single shot or move when a player is about to play. What happened in UAE during the golden ball event was hidious and if it continues like this it will ruin the WC.
Money,money,money, bloody money.
Bigger arenas don't make sense for snooker, You won't be able to see the table and controlling the audience would be far more difficult for a game that demands silence and concentration.
Hearns right 500,000 is not enough for a sportsman at the top of his game the best. Not even for a day these are elite players who should get paid elite money 💰
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Gate receipts are nothing in today’s sports landscape. The venue is only important because of name recognition, otherwise why would anyone choose to perform at Madison Square Garden over Ohio Stadium?
This is about selling the sport to the highest bidder. Everyone wants to sell themselves to Saudi and Saudi is listening to all offers.
We called it the Mecca of snooker, the Mecca of Boxing, the Mecca of whatever. Now Mecca is actually paying, and we’re seeing the salesmen sell.
Bigger stadium
Sitting further away from table
BINOCULARS!
It’s a sign of the times. I’m a snooker purist but at the end of the day money talks. Greed will always conquer all unfortunately
Build a clone of the crucible. One table setup on both for each half of the draw.
People can slate Hearn all they like, but snooker and darts wouldn't be where it is today without him.
What about the unbelievable atmosphere that’s created in the crucible theatre, that most of the professional snooker players state that it can not be created anywhere els in the world !
The proximity of the fans to the table and the partition wall is the main reason why the Crucible brings such pressure on the players. It's the pressure and tension that made the World Championship what it is.
Barry is spot on
I thought Darren Bents screen was frozen.
Agree with Barry on pretty much everything he said. Most other sports are paying their players massive amounts of money. Snooker and Darts players are some of the lowest paid. Lets hope the World champs stays in its spiritual home🤞
Have it inside Wembley stadium the hearns love it there
What is Sheffield going to do with a 2500 seater venue for the othe 348 days of the year?
Love Barry and money talks and bullshit walks in life !!!!!
I believe that there is wiggle room for the World Championship to go around the world - like a World Cup in football, it should be bid for, and this bids be submitted and have to include how they would host the tournament for the players, staff, fans, broadcasters etc thoughts???
Barry is playing a game here to get what snooker needs in Sheffield and fighting for the snooker players. You cant knock him for that.
I think he is right to put the pressure on Sheffield and the government to redevelop the crucible as they get the money from the tourism ,,, it’s clear they all want to stay but are the council listening ? Doubt it
Host the worlds in the Magna Centre, the venue is massive!
It should never leave these shores!
Barry needs to realise that Sheffield CC have no money. Like most councils. This is what austerity has done. We have seen councils go bust recently because of risky ventures. Could Hearn give them an advance?
Just bring back Pot Black or Big Break and market the game properly.
Can't fault Barry for his wideboy business man ethic and giving snooker the level of what it is today cos he's the one to thank for it, from his resiliant character in the 80s when it was still great to watch assuming you could see through the Benson & Hedges smoke over the tables....... but he's just about the money now and it's not a bad thing for business minded folk, a touch harder for the fans of the game however....... the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, both Hearns do love the sports they represent, but not as much as a pound note
It's actually really simple- there is currently enough demand and offers on the table for the top snooker players to be earning at least 4/5 times what they earn right now. That is too big an offer for any of them to turn down, just to preserve a bit of history. Time's change, every other sport grows to the biggest it can be. Snooker needs to do the same if they want to inspire kids to take up the sport and keep it going. Cus right now what kid wants to be a snooker player earning the same amount of money for winning the top prize in the sport, as most footballers earn in a couple weeks??? If the money and demand is there, it is Hearn's job to allow them to earn as much as is being offered to them.
Fair play Andy but I hate to say it money talks end of story and it’s very sad to see
all credit to Andy Goldstein with his line of questioning on this one... kudos to you. Hearn just interested in the cash and none of the history.
the solution to this is to build a new venue in Sheffield, and Mr Hearn can finance 50% of it. Could be quite a wait though. 😑
I don't want to say it, but i have to agree with him in some respects.
You Can’t take it away from the crucible theatre in Sheffield
Well Sheffield arena holds 13k for Boxing 🥊 & they reduce it
To ice hockey to 8k fans I’m sure they could reduce it down to 2/3k fans inside Sheffield arena
History beats money it won’t be the same at all
It needs to stay in Englands 4th Largest city of Sheffield
Keeps SNOOKER in Sheffield
If not it won’t be the same
SWFC
If you want to bring ACTUAL sport back, the money needs to be taken out completely. Should be a hobby
The living embodiment of a money man from Essex..but it's hard to disagree with him on some points. He's a promoter first and foremost and bums on seats is what is important to him. It's a shame but he's honest about it
Indianna Jones and the Holy Grail horse....great movie idea
I completely agree with the history and atmosphere argument, and I hate everyone selling their soul to Saudi and China.
Having said that… The Crucible was built in 1971, and they’ve only been playing snooker there since 1977. It’s not like it’s some long lasting historical venue like Wimbledon or Lords or Ascot or Aintree. It’s relatively new.
It is tiny and it is massively outdated, but the issue is Barry Hearn should be funding a replacement himself, not the council.
What for one tournament don't be so stupid
On my tombstone I'm not having: 'This is the man that took snooker out of Sheffield'. We can sell tournaments, but we're not going to let our crown jewels go. It would be letting our soul go." - Barry Hearn discusses future of Crucible in 2015.
Hearn is the man who put Snooker where it is now without him it would be a minority sport
Tyson will spark the UA-camr out in round one ,,, trust me on that
He’d take the US Masters away from Augusta if he could 😂
Does barry know how much basketball players in the uk are paid, with bigger crowds
Money will kill sport in the end.
But you have another building in Sheffield Barry what’s the matter , it’s the UTILITIA Sheffield it’s massive Barry must know this , there’s no excuse now to leave Sheffield
A basic footballer in th3 premier league earns more than the whole of the snooker season put together. The arrogance of these guys is just stupendous
World Snooker Champs needs to move to a bigger venue but taking it to Saudi or China will be a sure way to kill the sport in the UK
The Greg norman of the snooker world!!
Tradition being sold , pretty sad, but Barry's right..he's a promoter, step up Sheffield...💪😎🍺🇳🇿
Once money is put in the highest place tradition becomes inconsequential.
Cash is killing the magic of sport.
Barry hearne's new nickname is Mr burns from the Simpsons 😁
Barrys new nickname is Jeffrey Epsteins mate
Shut up Smithers. .
A nick name is supposed to be shorter than their actual name
What's the odds of Barry giving DAZN sole broadcasting rights. Great value monthly cost of £1.99 ❌ £7.99 ❌ £9.99 ❌ £14.99 ❌ £19.99..... don't forget to order your PPV if you want to watch the final!!
£20? Give it 2 years & it'll be £40 a month given the price rise of the current UK offering since their launch. Literally only have rights to 2nd tier prospect boxing shows, rest is PPV....& other rights are literally just women champions league football, saudi pro league & e sports. Embarrasing. UK boxing fans ditched DAZN on mass a while back, hence why they're shows are shite & rest is PPV & they launched MISIFTS which does more subs than Eddie Hearn's boxing in the UK.
@@d.b.cooper1 I remember thinking how amazing DAZN was when I first signed up for £1.99. Hearn went on a media rampage telling everyone how this was the future of sport, a low cost monthly subscription and no PPV. The lies kept coming until the number of new subscribers had levelled off, then announced price increase, one week later refused to deny PPV future. I cancelled my subscription out of principle after the first price rise. They're just take out merchants.
@timb9249 just stream everything. I stream snooker football boxing ufc.
@@d.b.cooper1Whats e Sports? Drones and Scalectrix?
DAZN is 24.99 now. Liberty.
Bulgarian here. For years, my dad and I have been watching snooker on free TV(Eurosport) and the only tournament we actually followed with interest was the "World Championship". However, we always referred to it as just "The Crucible" - that's how we differentiated it from any other tournament. In my opinion, if it happens another venue, it instantly loses its prestige and becomes "another tournament".
Само там ли дават снукър
@@vy9191 omg read what he said......
Dont worry about crowd, its for tv audience. Leave it.
The crowd is a cop out
If it's just for TV, then it could be anywhere.
Hearn and Ronnie already counting their Saudi cash
Go like golf won’t it.
Exactly, there will be no sport left untouched by the Saudi’s, it’ll be Darts next
Does he realy care,
Ronnie definitely shilling for the Saudis.
@@HarveyTwoFaceDentFirst 9/11, now the footie and golf🫣
Barry is right about this, I rarely agree with him but he's right
Barry would make his own funeral box office
Ffs 😭
One thing I’d pay for
...and be buried in Saudi.
Probably PPV it.
But Alex Hurricane Higgins said : 'I AM the box office'
This talk is pointless, youth of today are not interested in snooker! And hearns would sell their granny if the price was right
Hearns would sell their nan if it made them a fiver
Ronnie banging on about wanting 'that call'. Thing is it doesn't matter how you dress it up, it's just snooker, a good game but just f***ing snooker!
Goes to a bigger Venue and get clowns shouting out etc like another nonsense the shoot out tournament.
Andy’s a pillock but good on him for staying blunt here. A good promoter makes money, a great one also makes it for worthwhile for the fans too.
Yes Andy is.
The bigger picture here is , if it moves , it will not be on the BBC , so snooker will lose , as people will not watch it , and thats the really sad part of this.
Why won't it be on the BBC
Absolutely true if it’s taken off the BBC and it’s a brand-new trophy then I won’t watch snooker at all
I watch it on eurosport much better than the beeb
Garbage @@StGeorgeCross21
Disgusting badly
Look how soulless boxing is in Saudi? The reason we love the sport is because of the atmosphere. Jonny from Doncaster hasn’t got £6000 to go to Saudi for a week
They don’t care about working class fellas, its all about the corporate money
@@richrender-xy9em an arena full of Sheikh’s, who have never watched the game, giving it the odd golf clap. It would be embarrassing. China on the other hand, at least you will have a proper atmosphere as they are gaga for the sport
You can still watch boxing, there are plenty of fights in the UK.
@@eddiel7635 bore off
The dead atmosphere for the boxing makes it a hard watch. It kills the event altogether.
As a normal bloke from the Czech Republic and snooker fan for just over two decades, I really miss Andy Goldstein in snooker, and also Colin Murray, two guys with personality and good opinions. From my point of view of a nobody but someone who loves snooker A LOT, it would be a F DISASTER if they moved it out of The Crucible.
The capacity is a cop out - the revenue comes from tv audience which love the crucible, ticket prices aren’t that relevant really
You’d Make A Great Business Man 👀
@@barrymurray4923 hark at elon musk here
So you make a 2/3k seated arena in Sheffield…..how you going to fill that on a wet Wednesday afternoon watching Milkins attempting to knock a few balls in the pocket.
They sell the tickets in the 12 months prior and it’s very hard to get tickets nearer the time of the championship. On that basis the tickets would be spoken for irrespective of who plays even if some people don’t actually turn up on the day. In some ways it’s more compelling and dramatic watching some of the lesser lights playing at the world as you get lots of nervy frames rather than century after century being knocked in which as a punter can get a bit boring.
Do you watch it? Theres always empty seats. Take it to saudi there will be even more, look at the boxing its shocking @@languageoffootball
Barry trying to shoehorn a “why shouldn’t it go to Saudi” next Canvey Island and Shanghai as if Saudi had a known history for the love of snooker and not just willing to throw millions at another sport for sake of sport washing. They’d host the world tiddlywinks championship if you told them it was popular somewhere.
I have no problem with them rotating a world championship - but rotate it in countries with legitimate interest in the sport like china not in Saudi Arabia
Agree, good points made.
If it ever leaves UK, should perhaps go first to the non UK countries who have won it.
As in, Canada, Australia and Belgium.
And of course you would have to include Scotland, Ireland and Wales.
We can squeeze in 95,000 at mcg Barry, that enough for ya ?
i take it Andy doesnt want OLD TRAFFORD , rebuilt , renovated or moved
They’re not moving it to the Middle East are they?
I wish Man United would move to the Middle East because they are rubbish anyway
@@Jimboslice35Not that we know of lol. At this stage I wouldn't rule out England playing Home matches in Jeddah.
Got a feeling that Barry is just playing poker with the council... got a funny feeling he really doesn't want it to move (but he's willing to). Steve Davis being quiet the other day when Barry was next to him told me that he knew something we didn't... I think Barry has told him what's going on...
Steve Davies is always quiet. He was probably biting his lip on this occasion and not wanting to upset the man that made him.
Steve Davis was groomed by Hearn as a young man & Steve thinks they're friends but he hasn't got the guts to speak his mind! It's sad watching grown men sitting in the company of a greedy old prick like Hearns & not saying what they really feel. Snooker player's do more than alright for themselves (especially for a game that doesn't require physical fitness!)
@@Essydykim afraid its the other way around..it was steve who made barry...
@@Essydyk nah I'm almost certain from reading between the lines and the reactions of people close to him that he really is just cornering the council - he's probably been asking them for ten years . Saudis have just got a new ranking event for all the players - that's another big clue that they won't land the worlds... it'll be the invitational and this ranking event, and Sheffield will step up because they make too much money. Don't forget there's plenty of money to be made for those in the council to make handing out the construction contracts to their mates etc...
I am with you totally on this one Andy. Hearn, whilst being an extremely charming individual represents everything that is wrong with this country.
Short term greed, no regard for the who owns the hand that feeds you & the impact it has on those on the periphery.
Crucible needs to be made bigger. Double the capacity with more better facilities. Don’t think it can be done where it is unless you can build upwards ?
Giving Tiger Woods as an example of who to aspire to is poetic. This is the bloke who cheated on his wife many many times, become a drug addict & almost killed himself in his car crash due to his excess.
That is absolutely right what you wrote.
Nobody cares about Woods private life! he's a sporting legend with 120 titles 14 major titles! so of course he's a role model to millions!
Yet like Maradonna, George Best, Alex Higgins!
Man does what men have done throughout history. Plus you are guessing about the car accident.
@@Zxcvbueisn444 it's all about the players - that's who the fans pay to see!
NO, the $ is not in The Crucible. When you are growing a sport it's your responsibility, it makes NO sense anymore.
Money money money haven't you got enough make me sick
You need to leave earth then because that's how the world works
It's peanuts compared to football, you have Rashford playing like a one legged Donkey on iceskates during an earthquake and earning over 300K a week.
Wimbledon adapted. Silverstone adapted. Wembley adapted. There’s no need to move, just improve. We could do with the investment in this country, not farm it out overseas, never to return again.
Both BBC and Talksport fail to ask him the fundamental question.
If the world championship goes to a country with no spectators, which then leads to reduced viewership and sponsors, then regardless of extra prize $ what does it do for the sport going forward?
Bingo
THIS!!!
This is a good point. Fury v Usyk is on soon- they haven’t hardly sold any tickets even though those tickets are dirt cheap. How is a 3000 capacity venue in Saudi gonna sell out when boxing is more global
The point is they don’t care. It’s about milking the sport for money now
It'll be sold out in China.
I understand the point of view of both sides of the argument here. I'm an avid snooker fan and I've played the game since the age of 12. I once had ambitions to become a professional but honestly.. I'm thankful I never made it as there simply isn't enough money in the game today to earn a full time income as a top level sportsman unless your in the top 16. Just look at football? The top 200 players in the world are all on over a million a year. The money only really gets impressive when your in the top 16 with snooker. It would be nice to see the worle championships stay in Sheffield but Barry is right, the venue needs to atleast 3000 seats. Come on Sheffield, pull your finger out!
There’s a reason Barry is a business man
And Andy is on Talkshit
😂
Just cos he’s a businessman doesn’t mean it’s better for the sport
@@snookerstones what did he say that was wrong? Bigger prize money makes sense
If you are calling yourself ‘world snooker champs’ I expect something bigger than £500,000
& why not move it around
Like a bidding system like the World Cup
Andy blatantly has a issue with it cos Saudi has a interest in hosting it
The Saudi agenda has to stop it’s embarrassing
Barry would be a bum without Steve Davis and the Crucible.
@rhghhh4195 why should saudi get it when theyve never produced a fan base or great players. Thats just stupid.
@@alanchamberlain9902of course he wouldn’t. Foolish comment
Every single player in the last 16 at these championships is from the UK. It's not that much of a global sport and needs to stay in the UK, preferably at The Crucible.
If I had my way I'd get those famous globes back behind those players chairs and keep it at the crucible
Hearn is a gangster and a hypocrite.
With one hand, he shakes down the Crucible, and with the other, he threatens the players who ask him for more money...
''Hearn is a gangster'' haha says a little sissy who has ''back up dancer'' as their username . LOOOOL . You little millennial sissy
@@FaircloughcffSnake oil salesman the lot of them
If they move the world championship abroad snooker is finished, they already have a massive issue with no young talent really coming through
What's the point? Once Ronnie puts his cue down snookers finished. You'll be lucky to get a "crowd" of 30 in there hahaha
..Again it's just greed over valuing the history of the crucible and the sport itself
Should be ashamed but of course won't be
The hearns could easily put up 2 million as the top prize if they wanted. Sport has history and the idea that a tournament can't be at the same place every year is nonsense. Imagine the Masters leaving Augusta or Wimbledon going to Saudi.
A sport needs money, snooker isn’t a popular sport and it needs to look elsewhere for its expenses if the areas arent big enough / popular enough
oh dear. Perfect definition of Nouveau riche. No concept of heritage
Glad Andy’s an actual snooker fan so knows what to ask. Bent sitting there without a clue.
Maybe because Bent's not really a snooker fan? Would you prefer he pretends and takes questions away from the actual fan i.e Andy?
It’s just a case of when… not if. Obviously it’s going to happen now.
Sounds like he's already had an offer put on the table.
Me, me, me, me, me, me, me. He doesn't even run world snooker anymore!
Snooker has had its lean times, it's boom times and it's steady times. The constant through all those times has been The Crucible.
Barry, most councils are skint, including Sheffield. The idea Sheffiled have £10 Million quid , to spend on a new venue at the courtesy is madness. You knew tht anyway
You think a a 2500 seater venue can be built for 10 million? 😳😂
Yeh i am afraid thats when i knew the game was up , in a way he is telling us the truth without actually saying the words
Which is why it will be moving beyond 2027, because the party line will be "we give Sheffield Council 4 years' + notice and every opportunity to keep it in Sheffield, its their fault they didn't work hard enough to keep the WCs"... Barry isn't stupid, I actually like him a lot, this is his business and as he inadvertently said as much here. I would bet heavily that post-2027, snooker WCs will be in China or Saudi - it won't even be in the UK.
Then he can find someone who will invest 10 mil elsewhere. Don't see a problem here
He is correct. Stop being sentimental
The Hearns always look out for number one. They need some misfortune.
He cares only for the players. Not the fans. I know the players are the most important but not the only consideration.