Welcome to Masters Wars. It sucks. Don't expect much of a response. TCN and Matrix get docked more than they don't, but they still play at the top. Consider this a truer Masters title than the one in game...
the dock system is pretty imperfect for sure. that being said, neutralizing the war would do nothing bc you still get 95% of the points for losing, you just miss the win bonus. trying to retroactively undo the loss gets more complicated the earlier in the season you run into a docked alliance bc your matchmaking and sometimes your tier changes as a result of the loss. i’m not exactly sure what the best solution would be other than rank bump rewards for alliances that matched a cheating alliance but even that comes with complications. MOFW had about 5-6 players confirmed modding, about 10 more are suspicious. really sucks they ruined your season.
Well I think by neutralizing the war, he meant just keeping us at what our placement was before the war, which was in masters. Obviously we had the ability to get top 10 masters but there’s nothing we can do at this point
That stinks. You guys did plenty well enough to earn that top 20 spot, beating us in the second to last war (jugg2). Love your content, and I appreciate how you guys play clean and have fun. Good on you.
The system is flawed from the player point of view. But from Kabam's view it's great. Very very high player engagement. Tons of focus and effort. Living in the game. Constantly striving to improve player abilities and expanding rosters. It's magnificent! Sometimes players will get boned by any system as the cheaters constantly figure out new ways to cheat. Their doing their best, and the company is raking in Millions from the new champs and constant pressure to do better against worsening odds. (Players improve so the challenges must increase to maintain player engagement.)
What I like to know is why do people cheat? As far as I know they don’t really gain anything, right? Is it for enjoyment? They are just hurting legit players that actually work very hard.
I will say that I know it could be a bit of a process for kabam to go through and change scores for everyone who played them but it’s the right thing to do, and if you had played them you would want it to be done. Also another question I have is if they can figure out who was cheating in hours after the final war, why wait a whole month to ban them? Either way they have had 50+ seasons to figure this out and I’m sure we aren’t the first and won’t be the last to go through this so it’s disgraceful.
It sucks but it happens almost every season and they will never give back points to teams that lose to docked alliances. You need to understand that this is something that happens and make peace with it or get out of the masters rat race. It sucks and it will happen again if you stick with it. It has happened to us twice in a season. Lol. P.S. I think it was unintended but I don't appreciate the fact that you are talking about getting cheated by an alliance in war 9 while talking over footage of war 8. Jugg2 did not get banned and didn't cheat anybody. But I fear some who see the video may get the impression that you are talking about them. I just wanted to clarify that.
You're right, I didn't want to say the name of the ally who cheated, because not everyone playing there was dirty, or knew what was happening, however, making the footage against a clean ally was a poor choice, and i didn't realize how misleading it could be.
I agree, ranking system dis season is absurd n irritating we lost 1 war oni n are P5 with rank 4..n cheating shudnt stand here n a win the ini way to compensate it.. nothing less
@GrassHeartsDazzler it's a shame how they treat certain scenarios and players. It almost makes you want to start modding yourself bc apparently everyone pays the price not just them.
Sucks for you guys but I think the title is a bit dramatic. This has been the case for some time for a lot of alliances from god knows how long. On the side on the “ cheating alliance ” it takes one bad egg to pull the other 29 which was the case but because only one player got banned but there are no UA-camrs it is believed the whole alliance are dubbed cheaters. New Nation got docked last season but aren’t labelled a cheating alliance probably wouldn’t have had the same title .
Welcome to Masters Wars. It sucks. Don't expect much of a response. TCN and Matrix get docked more than they don't, but they still play at the top. Consider this a truer Masters title than the one in game...
the dock system is pretty imperfect for sure. that being said, neutralizing the war would do nothing bc you still get 95% of the points for losing, you just miss the win bonus. trying to retroactively undo the loss gets more complicated the earlier in the season you run into a docked alliance bc your matchmaking and sometimes your tier changes as a result of the loss. i’m not exactly sure what the best solution would be other than rank bump rewards for alliances that matched a cheating alliance but even that comes with complications.
MOFW had about 5-6 players confirmed modding, about 10 more are suspicious. really sucks they ruined your season.
Well I think by neutralizing the war, he meant just keeping us at what our placement was before the war, which was in masters. Obviously we had the ability to get top 10 masters but there’s nothing we can do at this point
It's all trash. Worst feeling ever
Kabam: oh no, anyway make sure you get our next overpriced offer
I heard this story on Truth's stream. I'm sorry that happened to you guys. That stinks. You got this next season!
That stinks. You guys did plenty well enough to earn that top 20 spot, beating us in the second to last war (jugg2). Love your content, and I appreciate how you guys play clean and have fun. Good on you.
Ggs from war 8
They definitely need to fix stuff like this in the future because this can't happen again.
The system is flawed from the player point of view. But from Kabam's view it's great. Very very high player engagement. Tons of focus and effort. Living in the game. Constantly striving to improve player abilities and expanding rosters. It's magnificent!
Sometimes players will get boned by any system as the cheaters constantly figure out new ways to cheat.
Their doing their best, and the company is raking in Millions from the new champs and constant pressure to do better against worsening odds. (Players improve so the challenges must increase to maintain player engagement.)
We lost to those cheaters as well brotha. 😢 I wish you guys would have gotten compensation or something
What I like to know is why do people cheat? As far as I know they don’t really gain anything, right? Is it for enjoyment? They are just hurting legit players that actually work very hard.
I will say that I know it could be a bit of a process for kabam to go through and change scores for everyone who played them but it’s the right thing to do, and if you had played them you would want it to be done. Also another question I have is if they can figure out who was cheating in hours after the final war, why wait a whole month to ban them? Either way they have had 50+ seasons to figure this out and I’m sure we aren’t the first and won’t be the last to go through this so it’s disgraceful.
That's Crap brother 😢
You got Cabamed
It sucks but it happens almost every season and they will never give back points to teams that lose to docked alliances. You need to understand that this is something that happens and make peace with it or get out of the masters rat race. It sucks and it will happen again if you stick with it. It has happened to us twice in a season. Lol.
P.S. I think it was unintended but I don't appreciate the fact that you are talking about getting cheated by an alliance in war 9 while talking over footage of war 8. Jugg2 did not get banned and didn't cheat anybody. But I fear some who see the video may get the impression that you are talking about them. I just wanted to clarify that.
To be honest I too thought it was jugg2, but it became clear when I focused on Ss more
You're right, I didn't want to say the name of the ally who cheated, because not everyone playing there was dirty, or knew what was happening, however, making the footage against a clean ally was a poor choice, and i didn't realize how misleading it could be.
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Hey grass, I can only imagine how frustrating your guys situation has to be. I’d be extremely pissed as well.
Did you get an answer from kabam?
White noise
Nah this is just freakin absurd kabam should definitely give you that win
I agree, ranking system dis season is absurd n irritating we lost 1 war oni n are P5 with rank 4..n cheating shudnt stand here n a win the ini way to compensate it.. nothing less
Doesn't kabam need to intervene and fix or resolve the situation
They won't. They never have for this kind of thing
@GrassHeartsDazzler it's a shame how they treat certain scenarios and players. It almost makes you want to start modding yourself bc apparently everyone pays the price not just them.
Ouch. Another Kabam fumble.
Sorry bro.
This is kinda stupid everygame i know returns your elo when you lose to cheaters
Sucks for you guys but I think the title is a bit dramatic. This has been the case for some time for a lot of alliances from god knows how long.
On the side on the “ cheating alliance ” it takes one bad egg to pull the other 29 which was the case but because only one player got banned but there are no UA-camrs it is believed the whole alliance are dubbed cheaters.
New Nation got docked last season but aren’t labelled a cheating alliance probably wouldn’t have had the same title .
@@Cleancut258 it was confirmed that 5-6 people cheated in the ally we lost too
How was it confirmed? It would have translated to 5 bans rather than one ban . I would take hearsay with a pinch of salt unless it is verifiable .
Confirmed was a poor choice of words on my part, however, I've been told from a high tier war player i trust that that was the amount
Technically anyone who fought them there losses shouldn’t count either
Agreed
How about alliances before you who lost? You benifited from there losses, which most likely put you at the rank 1 position
In either case it's still some absolute bullshit to be placed plat1 just for matching with cheaters at the last second
All alliances suffer because of them cheating. Not just your alliance 🤙🏻
Keep your head up
All of the allies who lost to them deserve restitution, not just us
big dumdum kabum strategum 🤦♀️ there's no justice playing clean in the game no more, stay safe Knuckles bruv 😮💨🤨🩷