One of the early missing tracks is "Papyrus Speedway.". I remember running that during the very early testing days. Some of the more recent ones was probably where iRacing modeled Autoclub Speedway as a .5 mi short track for the NASCAR brass. The more recent ones are probably things NASCAR has asked iRacing to conjure up so they can kick the tires on an idea. I know NASCAR was very impressed that iRacing's simulation of Chicago Street nailed everything that happened in the event to a tee. If you notice right after that time was when you started to see people like Steve Letarte and the bigger Cup teams get a lot more involved with the Coke Series and whatnot.
While I can't confirm it, I remember hearing something about Irwandale and Oxford having dirt configurations like USA and Lanier, but they weren't added for whatever reason.
There was, I think, a screenshot floating around that I can no longer find of a rallycross car on the GRC Irwindale layout. Want to say I remembered seeing it around when the Subaru was being announced. I also think, if I remember, that there's some test versions of Irwindale that are just dev testing tracks and not commercially released ones.
Regarding #406 I may or may not have insider information that IRacing scanned Route 66 Raceway aka The Dirty O while they were in town (The Dirt track near Chicagoland Speedway) but it was important that the track is scanned and preserved digitally as it is in its last days.
A quick note on the Red Bull Ring motorcycle layout: it was constructed in late 2021/early 2022 after the track was added to iRacing, so would not be part of the scan data that iRacing collected, which was most likely done before ‘Rona lockdowns. It’s a chicane built on the area between turn 1 and turn 4. And I’d also like to know if this takes into account some tracks that were updated to modern specs, but who’s legacy versions are no longer usable. Example is Watkins Glen, which had a full rescan done in the last two years, but the old version cannot be used any more. That would account for four layouts: full Boot circuit and NASCAR version, with and without bus stop chicanes. If they’re still visible in the list then it leaves a potential unused track, but if they’re NOT in the list and you can only see the current versions, then that may be what’s missing for one of the ‘unused’ slots.
When iRacing scanned our brazilian stock cars, we had a relatively spread rumor about they also takin' the opportunity to scan some few tracks.. If was true and considering how the cars flopped hard, they may have canned the tracks and it fits the huge gaps in content from late 2021, early 2022 when the Stock Cars arrieved on iRacing (ID 415 to 422). I don't found any link about it searching now, but I'm pretty sure I read about it when the cars being scanned leaked . But, tracks being scanned was a rumor never confirmed and considering how Interlagos, our most famous track, is in a desperate need for a update, probably was a false rumor. Since would have been the perfect opportunity for a new Interlagos scan.
I’m positive #272 is Belleville, another dirt track in Kansas. When USAC was licensed with iRacing, they scanned multiple tracks in the midwest, and Belleville was confirmed to be scanned but has not released yet.
@@LuckYp0rriDge Crazy! I think the stands were one of the first things removed at Nazareth after it closed. Apparently they moved them to Watkins Glen.
I feel like North Wilkesboro will get rescan eventually to have the repave. But your theory does make a lot of sense that Dale Junior could’ve used it as a way to visually show how beautiful the track look.
If you remember the original plan for the track was after the first late model race they were going to tare it up and run it for a week as a dirt track.
8:20 Brands Hatch did have at least 3 Rallycross Layouts I can find that are different from what iRacing has in the game, but to me knowledge they aren´t used for many years now. But I somehow doubt that it´s any of them that is missing as it would be someone odd for iRacing to add only 1 of them considering they are all not a thing for well over a decade before Brands Hatch was added in general. All Layouts began at the Regular Start of the Track, had a unpaved shicane on the inside of Paddock Hill Bend, would go left on a unpaved section between Druids and Graham Hill Bend and go parallell to Cooper Straight. One of the Layouts (AFAIK the older one) would do a Hairpin near the exit of Surtees, do the Cooper Straght about half way in the wrong direction and use a Service Road to connect to the Pit Exit to complete the Lap. This Layout is in Project CARS 2 as Brand Hatch Classic Rallycross. The other Layout would do a chicane in the Surtees Area and cut straight across the grass to near the Pit Entry to then use the entire Brabham straight. The 3rd Layout I know off is basically a combination of the first two that would do a different chicane near Surtees to use the regular connectinc corner for the Indy Layout and then near Pit Entry would cut across the grass back down to Cooper Straight to do the rest of the 1st Layout. IIRC at least Layout 2, if noth also the 3rd one was in TOCA / Pro / DTM Race Driver 3.
Redbullring MotoGP layout was created after the scan for iracing. The part of the track that was created between turn 1 and the hairpin isnt there in game. I also think it could be Winton as they do Rallycross there, thats what could be missing.
Brands Hatch has a rally and rally cross configuration. Not sure Rally cross is still used any more. Turn sharp left after turn 2 hairpin well before turn 3 Graham Hill bend. This ran on dirt then a chicane back across the track and grass cutting out clearway onto the start finish straight rejoining the tarmac before the pit lane entrance. Project cars had a variant of the track where instead of the chicane you turned right heading the wrong way towards turn 3 Graham Hill bend the turning sharp left to an access dirt road to join the pit lane exit, Beith a sharp right turn before paddock Hill bend turn 1 with a dirt chicane left then right onto tarmac in the dip between turn 1 and 2. Hope you find this interesting
lol, nah. ss is neither special nor significant enough for iracing to include. Southside speedway will never be an iracing track. It was just a place for local yokels to run.
Oschelaben had a significant change to the first turn around the early 2000s. Maybe they considered a historic version? I believe there were other smaller changes to chicanes as well for safety purposes
Brands hatch has a real life rally stage that isn't like the ingame rallytrack. The missing id could have been that. You run the rally section then 3 laps of the track in various configs (that cut through pitlanes and service roads with tyre wall chicanes). They may have added it to see if their systems could work with it.
it could be the Rallycross course thats missing for Hockenheim, and between 415-417 or 420-422 could be an Dirt track, because if i remember correctly, they hinted at them working on an drit track around that time.
One more from me. Rockingham has to be included. The variations are many, legends used to use a chicane utilising the pit exit turn 1. ASCAR used the oval, gt and formula junior cars touring cars used many variations over time and there is also inner road course separate to the oval. Often on track days both were used at the same time. I drove on the oval in formula car and the mini Cooper were running on the infield only course
i wouldnt be surprised if atleast a small portion are just empty baseplates, or undetailed tracks that were used for drive tests. edit: I didnt get to the 40 consecutive missing. Thats most definitely gonna be development tracks for testing cars. The verified tracks before those were more than likely made before the cars were ready for testing, and thats why the development tracks are so far down the line.
5:53 Suzuka also has a short configuration - a hairpin to the frontstretch after the esses. Idk if it is in iRacing now, but maybe this configuration is that missing track. But again, that's just a guess. Btw cool video as always!
I feel like the North Wilkesboro was probably a present to the date it was scanned (2019ish?) A configuration with asphalt aprons but before the real life facelift for 2023. I just hope some day they add Portland.
"It takes somebody with no life to go through every single track ID and see which one is valid and which one redirects to nothing", well i'll have you know that it takes somebody with no life, but with an internet connection, to watch somebody with no life go through all the track ID's that redirect to nowhere, and then try to figure out what they referred to! :) :) :) Seriously though, an entertaining and informative video as always. Keep up the good work :)
for #289 it might be a Rallycross Layout for Brands Hatch? They used to run a layout in the British Rallycross Championship but as far as I can tell it hasn't been used since the late 80's
I’d say #441 is potentially the RX layout for Winton; it was constructed in 2017, so before the scan, but I suspect it didn’t make economical sense to produce, as it was already somewhat of a niche road track and putting another paid RX layout in on a track people were extremely unlikely to purchase just for RX usage would only split the already small fields.
I feel like a few of these missing tracks are ‘Go-Kart’ configs. That were scanned but obviously not used. Does anyone think they would add a Go-kart or dirt kart to the game in the future? Maybe add to the rookie class?
There was a second configuration for Belle Isle. When it was added back to the IndyCar schedule, they ran a shorter layout for a few years before returning to the full layout. Looks like it was also run on the 90s, but that was before my time as a race fan. So that might answer one missing number in that chunk, but not all of them.
"There's no way that Belle Isle has that many configurations." Belle Isle didn't have 4 or 5 configurations, that's true, but they did have that one other that they alternated back and forth between in the event's on-again, off-again history. I'm pretty sure the racing surface and maybe even the curbing from that old shortcut through Picnic Way still exists irl, so they probably have it scanned as an alternate layout that hasn't reached the light of day yet.
Awesome video, I'm afraid I can't offer any info like so many others here have, but I hope you make a follow up with all the additional research from everyone!
Rudskogen actually has a karting track it looks like behind the main course if you look on maps. But unless iracing rescanned Rudskogen recently I doubt this is the case.
i think 386-388 is different configuration of the new atlanta repave and then somwhere in here, if not all of these 408-412, 415-417,420-422 is a fontana short track configuration
Always hoped we'd get Daytona Battle at the Beach, probably will never now due to the changes it falls in between Legacy Daytona and current Daytona that gets updated.
Charlotte Dirt could have had some short course truck layout added, I think they had something long ago so it wouldn't have been scanned like a lot of the RX courses. One of the layouts of Daytona could have been the mini dirt oval they have outside Turn 1, which is currently being ran by AFT.
Lanier Karting couldnt be a thing in iRacing. The karting came out just a couple years ago after 2017/18. Knowing who the track owners are now, sadly they wouldnt want anything more to do with motorsports other than drifting and car shows. RIP Lanier short track racing. EDIT: The karting there is scary too. No belts and they are moving pretty good down straights.
As an Australian and having been to Winton, #441 is definitly the national circuit used for go karts, track days and production cars (depending on the series)
Similarly to Okayama refresh, I wonder if an update to any of these tracks adds the missing circuits. Also, I wonder if the addition of a GoKart will be the catalyst to revive some of these karting circuits.
Road America has five available configurations, and only has two currently. Track gets split at T5/T13 at the crossover. Back half of the track is the skip barber school course - you can add the bend or delete it for an additional layout. Front half is used for high-speed testing - there is a former loop inside T3, but has been disused for more than 30 years.
9:32 could be the layout global rallycross used? Same as iracing one but bit more hairpins 14:52 not sure about rbr moto, chicane was unveiled march 2022 while iracing released in june 2021 and scanned months before that probabily
It could be 113, because most programming languages start counting from 0. Though apparently databases with auto-incrementing values (where the value likely originates from) usually start from 1. There are very valid reasons to start from 1 under other circumstances too, since 0 can be set as a default value and therefore whenever track 0 is asked for, you'll know it was a mistake.
For #32, the Richmond Raceway did not have a go-kart track on it's property in 2008. There was an indoor kart track called G-Force Karts located in a warehouse across the street from Richmond Raceway. In 2019 G-Force Karts moved out of the warehouse location and began operating for outdoor rental karting in one of the parking lots on the Richmond Raceway property. G-Force Karts went out of business within about a year or two after moving outdoors and there is no more karting at the Richmond Raceway Complex.
no idea if you get to it here at the 4:36 mark, but I wonder for wide swaths of "missing" if we have "old versions/old scans" of tracks that have been updated. see: Plenty of Ovals, Old Watkins Glen, etc where there's an old scan, if they have to reserve a full new ID for the new scan.
Idk if you’ve done a video on this topic but I feel like there could be more cars that iRacing could add. Nascar stock cars from the 70s, trans am from the 70s. Early to mid 90s Nascar stock car and the 90s/2000s IROC Pontiacs. With that being said I can’t wait to see what new tracks will be added.
Utah Motorsports Campus, formerly Miller Motorsports Park, has 4 road course configurations, an off road short course, and a kart track. It currently has a rallycross configuration but that was added after it became UMC. I’d be really fun to drive it on iRacing, there’s no other track like it.
For #177. Idk if its in Iracing already but it could very well be a shorter verison of suzuka the f1 game had for awhile which was basically at the end of the S's at the top of the hill you turned right and went to the final turn on the circuit normally.
A potential for one of those gaps in the Nashville Fairgrounds area, but the World of Outlaws did a race there back in 2019 on a temporary setup on the front stretch. Maybe iRacing intended to add that layout?
There's a Kart track at Brands Hatch which could have been scanned? They also have two Rally stages on site, but I would say that's less likely. I've also always wondered given that Brands, Oulton Park and Snetterton (Donington added recently are all in iRacing and owned by Motorsport Vision. However Cadwell Park also owned by Motorsport Vision isn't in iRacing. I wonder if that's been scanned?
Also on the Red Bull Ring in iRacing the MotoGP chicane on the straight between T1 and T3 isn't shown at all so don't know if there is a seperate layout for that, but there is an access road that pulls right off of that same straight that could give a smaller layout?
If I had to guess... 272: A fake dirt bristol. They did add dirt to other tracks as we all know, them doing it do a track that notably had actually been dirtified is reasonable 401-402: I feel like one of them is probably Nashville dirt. IRL WoO raced at Nashville with dirt on the quarter mile, makes sense they'd consider it 495: Kern, but without the frontstretch wall. They used to run Kern like that, so it makes sense they'd consider a version like it 441: Probably Bristol Dirt but with the "Dirtles", instead of the flat apron we got
I have been watching your videos for months and i really enjoy the content you publish, so i wanted to request maybe a content idea i would like to see. I don't play iRacing (so i dont know basically anything about it) but im a enjoyer of narrow street circuits or tough race tracks like the rockingham short course or the summit point circuit, so i wanted to ask if you could do a video about the narrowest or toughest track that there are in iRacing according to the community.
Just guessing: #441 could be a historic layout of Winton that they just did not end up using (different pits to the current Club layout or something?).
Detritus sorry Detroit Bell Isle after turns 1 and 2 the straight was shorter turning right. So turn 3 and 4 now wasn't used. The old version joined ar what would be turn 5 now. So a slightly shorter track. This was during the CART era, they lengthened the track to create better over taking on the track, I could be wrong but I think that was 1998.
In an old episode of dale jr download. Dale was talking to he owners/promoter of millbridge speedway, a dirt track in NC. In the show they say the track was scanned for iracing. But not yet included
I just wonder if one of those unused tracks is the Pittsburgh International Race Complex. I know it has at least 3 configurations. Beautiful track though.
Daytona did have a different configuration for the GRC round in 2015 and 2016, so that might be what 292 or 294 is. Since I'm pretty sure the Hockenheim scan came from SlightlyMad who made Project CARS it's possible 389 is either the rallycross track or their version of the old Hockenheim since Project CARS 2 had both.
406 is a good guess as the final layout is slightly different from the original prototype, you can also drive outside the map on the current Chicago Street configuration
New Jersey motorsports park is a tech track on the iracing site still. But it not release in years. When you see it now its a abandoned project. So i just wonder?
After Daytona. They scan the 24 hour of le mans. So I wonder did they scan Bugatti Circuit as well but remove because it is only use for motorcycle racing these days. So yeah.
There was also a driver development track at mosport with multiple configurations (there still is, but it was completely redone a few years ago. Could be either of them).
I reckon #289 might be brands hatches rallycross they have in other games #441 might be the burnout pad at winton or a form of short track as winton does have a road right have turn 3
One of the early missing tracks is "Papyrus Speedway.". I remember running that during the very early testing days.
Some of the more recent ones was probably where iRacing modeled Autoclub Speedway as a .5 mi short track for the NASCAR brass.
The more recent ones are probably things NASCAR has asked iRacing to conjure up so they can kick the tires on an idea. I know NASCAR was very impressed that iRacing's simulation of Chicago Street nailed everything that happened in the event to a tee. If you notice right after that time was when you started to see people like Steve Letarte and the bigger Cup teams get a lot more involved with the Coke Series and whatnot.
While I can't confirm it, I remember hearing something about Irwandale and Oxford having dirt configurations like USA and Lanier, but they weren't added for whatever reason.
Found an article on OSRacing from November, a month before the Midget was released with pictures of the Midget on both Irwandale and Oxford
There was, I think, a screenshot floating around that I can no longer find of a rallycross car on the GRC Irwindale layout. Want to say I remembered seeing it around when the Subaru was being announced.
I also think, if I remember, that there's some test versions of Irwindale that are just dev testing tracks and not commercially released ones.
Haven't heard about that, but that's really interesting. Wonder why they never released these dirt oval and rallycross tracks.
definitely remember Oxford was supposed to have a dirt configuration
The bull ring at Las Vegas also has a ½ mile dirt track that possibly could have been scanned
Regarding #406
I may or may not have insider information that IRacing scanned Route 66 Raceway aka The Dirty O while they were in town
(The Dirt track near Chicagoland Speedway) but it was important that the track is scanned and preserved digitally as it is in its last days.
A quick note on the Red Bull Ring motorcycle layout: it was constructed in late 2021/early 2022 after the track was added to iRacing, so would not be part of the scan data that iRacing collected, which was most likely done before ‘Rona lockdowns. It’s a chicane built on the area between turn 1 and turn 4.
And I’d also like to know if this takes into account some tracks that were updated to modern specs, but who’s legacy versions are no longer usable. Example is Watkins Glen, which had a full rescan done in the last two years, but the old version cannot be used any more. That would account for four layouts: full Boot circuit and NASCAR version, with and without bus stop chicanes. If they’re still visible in the list then it leaves a potential unused track, but if they’re NOT in the list and you can only see the current versions, then that may be what’s missing for one of the ‘unused’ slots.
This really hints for iRacing's motorcycle update (for Red Bull Ring motorcycle layout one).
When iRacing scanned our brazilian stock cars, we had a relatively spread rumor about they also takin' the opportunity to scan some few tracks..
If was true and considering how the cars flopped hard, they may have canned the tracks and it fits the huge gaps in content from late 2021, early 2022 when the Stock Cars arrieved on iRacing (ID 415 to 422).
I don't found any link about it searching now, but I'm pretty sure I read about it when the cars being scanned leaked .
But, tracks being scanned was a rumor never confirmed and considering how Interlagos, our most famous track, is in a desperate need for a update, probably was a false rumor. Since would have been the perfect opportunity for a new Interlagos scan.
NJMP's Lightning course could be one of the unused tracks if iRacing scanned it alongside Thunderbolt (#220).
I’m positive #272 is Belleville, another dirt track in Kansas.
When USAC was licensed with iRacing, they scanned multiple tracks in the midwest, and Belleville was confirmed to be scanned but has not released yet.
I’d love Rockingham UK in Iracing! It’s the closest oval configuration to Nazareth that I can think of.
Shame it's now a car park for storing new cars, still has the stands & seating tho 😂
@@LuckYp0rriDge Crazy! I think the stands were one of the first things removed at Nazareth after it closed. Apparently they moved them to Watkins Glen.
I feel like North Wilkesboro will get rescan eventually to have the repave. But your theory does make a lot of sense that Dale Junior could’ve used it as a way to visually show how beautiful the track look.
If you remember the original plan for the track was after the first late model race they were going to tare it up and run it for a week as a dirt track.
Some of the layouts between #54 and #93 are surely the removed layouts for the old versions of Watkins Glen, VIR, Zandvoort and Okayama
Most of those tracks are actually still active track ID's under [Retired]
Ah I see - interesting!@@DJYeeJay
8:20 Brands Hatch did have at least 3 Rallycross Layouts I can find that are different from what iRacing has in the game, but to me knowledge they aren´t used for many years now. But I somehow doubt that it´s any of them that is missing as it would be someone odd for iRacing to add only 1 of them considering they are all not a thing for well over a decade before Brands Hatch was added in general.
All Layouts began at the Regular Start of the Track, had a unpaved shicane on the inside of Paddock Hill Bend, would go left on a unpaved section between Druids and Graham Hill Bend and go parallell to Cooper Straight.
One of the Layouts (AFAIK the older one) would do a Hairpin near the exit of Surtees, do the Cooper Straght about half way in the wrong direction and use a Service Road to connect to the Pit Exit to complete the Lap. This Layout is in Project CARS 2 as Brand Hatch Classic Rallycross.
The other Layout would do a chicane in the Surtees Area and cut straight across the grass to near the Pit Entry to then use the entire Brabham straight.
The 3rd Layout I know off is basically a combination of the first two that would do a different chicane near Surtees to use the regular connectinc corner for the Indy Layout and then near Pit Entry would cut across the grass back down to Cooper Straight to do the rest of the 1st Layout.
IIRC at least Layout 2, if noth also the 3rd one was in TOCA / Pro / DTM Race Driver 3.
The PCARS example is the only real layout of Brands rallycross, the iracing/other layouts are fictional
@@iamthedrumandbassfarmer8735 Thanks for the clarification, I always assumed that at least the 2nd one was real too.
Redbullring MotoGP layout was created after the scan for iracing. The part of the track that was created between turn 1 and the hairpin isnt there in game.
I also think it could be Winton as they do Rallycross there, thats what could be missing.
Makes sense thanks!
really interesting video, love these deep dives into the obscure parts of iRacing
Brands Hatch has a rally and rally cross configuration. Not sure Rally cross is still used any more. Turn sharp left after turn 2 hairpin well before turn 3 Graham Hill bend. This ran on dirt then a chicane back across the track and grass cutting out clearway onto the start finish straight rejoining the tarmac before the pit lane entrance. Project cars had a variant of the track where instead of the chicane you turned right heading the wrong way towards turn 3 Graham Hill bend the turning sharp left to an access dirt road to join the pit lane exit, Beith a sharp right turn before paddock Hill bend turn 1 with a dirt chicane left then right onto tarmac in the dip between turn 1 and 2. Hope you find this interesting
Hopefully Pukekohe is in one of those un-used slots. There are two combinations. Can't wait to see it released
#32 was probably Southside Speedway in Richmond. No longer open unfortunately- went to many races there as a kid
lol, nah. ss is neither special nor significant enough for iracing to include. Southside speedway will never be an iracing track. It was just a place for local yokels to run.
Michigan did have a kart track. A friend has raced there. It was over 30 years ago
Oschelaben had a significant change to the first turn around the early 2000s. Maybe they considered a historic version? I believe there were other smaller changes to chicanes as well for safety purposes
I don’t think iracing does historic versions unless it’s still able to be laser scanned like monza
@@DJYeeJay IIRC some of the chicanes used at that track were just tire chicanes on the existing pavement, which would make it more doable for iRacing.
Brands hatch has a real life rally stage that isn't like the ingame rallytrack. The missing id could have been that.
You run the rally section then 3 laps of the track in various configs (that cut through pitlanes and service roads with tyre wall chicanes). They may have added it to see if their systems could work with it.
it could be the Rallycross course thats missing for Hockenheim, and between 415-417 or 420-422 could be an Dirt track, because if i remember correctly, they hinted at them working on an drit track around that time.
One more from me. Rockingham has to be included. The variations are many, legends used to use a chicane utilising the pit exit turn 1. ASCAR used the oval, gt and formula junior cars touring cars used many variations over time and there is also inner road course separate to the oval. Often on track days both were used at the same time. I drove on the oval in formula car and the mini Cooper were running on the infield only course
I run gokarts on the Mini Mile at stafford, I hope they add that into the game. Very fun
i wouldnt be surprised if atleast a small portion are just empty baseplates, or undetailed tracks that were used for drive tests.
edit: I didnt get to the 40 consecutive missing. Thats most definitely gonna be development tracks for testing cars. The verified tracks before those were more than likely made before the cars were ready for testing, and thats why the development tracks are so far down the line.
5:53 Suzuka also has a short configuration - a hairpin to the frontstretch after the esses. Idk if it is in iRacing now, but maybe this configuration is that missing track. But again, that's just a guess.
Btw cool video as always!
Ah that might be it!
That configuration is Suzuka East, already available as track ID #174
@@subcerotj What about Suzuka West? Is that also already in?
@@CheetahLynxyes, both with and without the chicane after the hairpin
Theres also a Kart track to the south just before 130R and west of Degner #2 Very likely that as well
I feel like the North Wilkesboro was probably a present to the date it was scanned (2019ish?) A configuration with asphalt aprons but before the real life facelift for 2023.
I just hope some day they add Portland.
"It takes somebody with no life to go through every single track ID and see which one is valid and which one redirects to nothing", well i'll have you know that it takes somebody with no life, but with an internet connection, to watch somebody with no life go through all the track ID's that redirect to nowhere, and then try to figure out what they referred to! :) :) :)
Seriously though, an entertaining and informative video as always. Keep up the good work :)
for #289 it might be a Rallycross Layout for Brands Hatch? They used to run a layout in the British Rallycross Championship but as far as I can tell it hasn't been used since the late 80's
9:39 that's literally just mini monza
I wonder if some of the ones from 2021 were Indy street tracks and now that they rescued the license, they can continue development again.
I’d say #441 is potentially the RX layout for Winton; it was constructed in 2017, so before the scan, but I suspect it didn’t make economical sense to produce, as it was already somewhat of a niche road track and putting another paid RX layout in on a track people were extremely unlikely to purchase just for RX usage would only split the already small fields.
8:26 Brands Hatch has hosted rallycross before, so it could be a scan for that
I feel like a few of these missing tracks are ‘Go-Kart’ configs. That were scanned but obviously not used. Does anyone think they would add a Go-kart or dirt kart to the game in the future? Maybe add to the rookie class?
There was a second configuration for Belle Isle. When it was added back to the IndyCar schedule, they ran a shorter layout for a few years before returning to the full layout. Looks like it was also run on the 90s, but that was before my time as a race fan. So that might answer one missing number in that chunk, but not all of them.
Rockingham easily has 7 variations.
Rockingham UK closed back in 2019, I think, to convert to an auto show now.
You should check these using way back machine, guessing dates using neighboring tracks and see if the web pages ever existed!
Great idea!
"There's no way that Belle Isle has that many configurations."
Belle Isle didn't have 4 or 5 configurations, that's true, but they did have that one other that they alternated back and forth between in the event's on-again, off-again history. I'm pretty sure the racing surface and maybe even the curbing from that old shortcut through Picnic Way still exists irl, so they probably have it scanned as an alternate layout that hasn't reached the light of day yet.
Awesome video, I'm afraid I can't offer any info like so many others here have, but I hope you make a follow up with all the additional research from everyone!
Rudskogen actually has a karting track it looks like behind the main course if you look on maps. But unless iracing rescanned Rudskogen recently I doubt this is the case.
i think 386-388 is different configuration of the new atlanta repave and then somwhere in here, if not all of these 408-412, 415-417,420-422 is a fontana short track configuration
Auto club short track should not exist until 2025.
Always hoped we'd get Daytona Battle at the Beach, probably will never now due to the changes it falls in between Legacy Daytona and current Daytona that gets updated.
Legend las Vegas and Kentucky oval. Who knows here.
#13 wasnt released solely because it was unlucky 13. Source: none
Charlotte Dirt could have had some short course truck layout added, I think they had something long ago so it wouldn't have been scanned like a lot of the RX courses. One of the layouts of Daytona could have been the mini dirt oval they have outside Turn 1, which is currently being ran by AFT.
if you look at belle isles track map there are 4 different roads that could account for the 4 layouts.
Ohhh you're right!
I hope iracing adds more european smaller tracks. Especially small tracks from scandinavia like for example gelleråsen or mantorp
Lanier Karting couldnt be a thing in iRacing. The karting came out just a couple years ago after 2017/18. Knowing who the track owners are now, sadly they wouldnt want anything more to do with motorsports other than drifting and car shows. RIP Lanier short track racing. EDIT: The karting there is scary too. No belts and they are moving pretty good down straights.
As an Australian and having been to Winton, #441 is definitly the national circuit used for go karts, track days and production cars (depending on the series)
Similarly to Okayama refresh, I wonder if an update to any of these tracks adds the missing circuits. Also, I wonder if the addition of a GoKart will be the catalyst to revive some of these karting circuits.
I believe Hockenheim has both national configurations!
Road America has five available configurations, and only has two currently. Track gets split at T5/T13 at the crossover.
Back half of the track is the skip barber school course - you can add the bend or delete it for an additional layout.
Front half is used for high-speed testing - there is a former loop inside T3, but has been disused for more than 30 years.
9:32 could be the layout global rallycross used? Same as iracing one but bit more hairpins
14:52 not sure about rbr moto, chicane was unveiled march 2022 while iracing released in june 2021 and scanned months before that probabily
It could be 113, because most programming languages start counting from 0. Though apparently databases with auto-incrementing values (where the value likely originates from) usually start from 1.
There are very valid reasons to start from 1 under other circumstances too, since 0 can be set as a default value and therefore whenever track 0 is asked for, you'll know it was a mistake.
For #32, the Richmond Raceway did not have a go-kart track on it's property in 2008. There was an indoor kart track called G-Force Karts located in a warehouse across the street from Richmond Raceway. In 2019 G-Force Karts moved out of the warehouse location and began operating for outdoor rental karting in one of the parking lots on the Richmond Raceway property. G-Force Karts went out of business within about a year or two after moving outdoors and there is no more karting at the Richmond Raceway Complex.
no idea if you get to it here at the 4:36 mark, but I wonder for wide swaths of "missing" if we have "old versions/old scans" of tracks that have been updated. see: Plenty of Ovals, Old Watkins Glen, etc where there's an old scan, if they have to reserve a full new ID for the new scan.
Those actually still have track id's and if you find them they're listed as [Retired]
Idk if you’ve done a video on this topic but I feel like there could be more cars that iRacing could add. Nascar stock cars from the 70s, trans am from the 70s. Early to mid 90s Nascar stock car and the 90s/2000s IROC Pontiacs. With that being said I can’t wait to see what new tracks will be added.
#375-379 One of them Could be Nashville Fairgrounds Dirt Ran by World Of Outlaws as recently as 2019
In the late 2000s or early 2010s i seem to remember them doing a Rallycross track at brands hatch, could be that
I wonder if the Hockenheim one COULD be classic Hockenheim
Utah Motorsports Campus, formerly Miller Motorsports Park, has 4 road course configurations, an off road short course, and a kart track. It currently has a rallycross configuration but that was added after it became UMC. I’d be really fun to drive it on iRacing, there’s no other track like it.
For #177. Idk if its in Iracing already but it could very well be a shorter verison of suzuka the f1 game had for awhile which was basically at the end of the S's at the top of the hill you turned right and went to the final turn on the circuit normally.
A potential for one of those gaps in the Nashville Fairgrounds area, but the World of Outlaws did a race there back in 2019 on a temporary setup on the front stretch. Maybe iRacing intended to add that layout?
Ohh didn't know that!
You think they have golden isles speedway? Maybe even the version from back when it was the fastest dirt oval in America?
0:07 Limerock Park #1 😎
There's a Kart track at Brands Hatch which could have been scanned? They also have two Rally stages on site, but I would say that's less likely. I've also always wondered given that Brands, Oulton Park and Snetterton (Donington added recently are all in iRacing and owned by Motorsport Vision. However Cadwell Park also owned by Motorsport Vision isn't in iRacing. I wonder if that's been scanned?
Also on the Red Bull Ring in iRacing the MotoGP chicane on the straight between T1 and T3 isn't shown at all so don't know if there is a seperate layout for that, but there is an access road that pulls right off of that same straight that could give a smaller layout?
If I had to guess...
272: A fake dirt bristol. They did add dirt to other tracks as we all know, them doing it do a track that notably had actually been dirtified is reasonable
401-402: I feel like one of them is probably Nashville dirt. IRL WoO raced at Nashville with dirt on the quarter mile, makes sense they'd consider it
495: Kern, but without the frontstretch wall. They used to run Kern like that, so it makes sense they'd consider a version like it
441: Probably Bristol Dirt but with the "Dirtles", instead of the flat apron we got
Additionally: What if they tried making a Turn 11 sonoma oval? It could make sense to add to the legends cars.
I have been watching your videos for months and i really enjoy the content you publish, so i wanted to request maybe a content idea i would like to see. I don't play iRacing (so i dont know basically anything about it) but im a enjoyer of narrow street circuits or tough race tracks like the rockingham short course or the summit point circuit, so i wanted to ask if you could do a video about the narrowest or toughest track that there are in iRacing according to the community.
Sweet! Keep it up man, awesome videos.
Just guessing: #441 could be a historic layout of Winton that they just did not end up using (different pits to the current Club layout or something?).
Detritus sorry Detroit Bell Isle after turns 1 and 2 the straight was shorter turning right. So turn 3 and 4 now wasn't used. The old version joined ar what would be turn 5 now. So a slightly shorter track. This was during the CART era, they lengthened the track to create better over taking on the track, I could be wrong but I think that was 1998.
In an old episode of dale jr download. Dale was talking to he owners/promoter of millbridge speedway, a dirt track in NC.
In the show they say the track was scanned for iracing. But not yet included
Brands Hatch has a rallycross course.
I just wonder if one of those unused tracks is the Pittsburgh International Race Complex. I know it has at least 3 configurations. Beautiful track though.
Possible
Anderson speedway in Indiana is scanned in but never released. Per Dale Jr on his podcast.
That likely
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Thanks haha honestly i should've known that
Daytona did have a different configuration for the GRC round in 2015 and 2016, so that might be what 292 or 294 is.
Since I'm pretty sure the Hockenheim scan came from SlightlyMad who made Project CARS it's possible 389 is either the rallycross track or their version of the old Hockenheim since Project CARS 2 had both.
This is a really great idea for a video, cool
16:08 Winton does have the old short layout so that’s not an entirely impossible thing for them to add
For #32 I think it's Richmond Dirt
nascar youth series is coming to richmond raceway this year!!
406 is a good guess as the final layout is slightly different from the original prototype, you can also drive outside the map on the current Chicago Street configuration
There is also a missing track at #507 now (between Slinger Figure 8 and Lime Rock School)
Slinger offroad when kekw
I believe Volusia's go-kart track was scanned and placed as #281. If iRacing was doing dirt karts as well, your theory about Eldora is correct.
Somewhere in there is Pukekohe in New Zealand. Would’ve been scanned late 2022 or early 2023 so remains to be seen where that is
New Jersey motorsports park is a tech track on the iracing site still. But it not release in years. When you see it now its a abandoned project. So i just wonder?
I assume that 495 was left as a deliberate awkward gap due to an office in-joke about bad Kerning.
I will say, there's a chance the one next to Weedsport could be the Kartway on the other side of the pits.
I feel like #441 would most likely be the short version of winton which use to be the old layout used up until around 1997
*272 could have been the las vegas outer road
Edit: It Could also be las vegas dirt
Edit 2:*177 Could Be Sugo
Interesting thanks!
After Daytona. They scan the 24 hour of le mans. So I wonder did they scan Bugatti Circuit as well but remove because it is only use for motorcycle racing these days. So yeah.
@@joshuathecat-human1247 Maybe
Mosport oval could of been an early one
There was also a driver development track at mosport with multiple configurations (there still is, but it was completely redone a few years ago. Could be either of them).
Now we just need to find a way to restore the old car models (NASCAR Gen 6, Trucks, etc.)
Iracing was thinking about motorcycle racing but they abandoned that. That was couple years ago those.
#290 could be a Brands Hatch Rallycross circuit, pretty sure they had some rallycross there at one point at least?
Did you check any ids with the wayback machine?
Love you man!
Yes, Winton does have 2 configurations. I know I race on them both.
I reckon #289 might be brands hatches rallycross they have in other games #441 might be the burnout pad at winton or a form of short track as winton does have a road right have turn 3
focus!
Where outro music??????
I kinda made this to be a background noise vid so the outro music woulda been jarring haha
You cray cray lol
#32 maybe Richmond day configuration?
Wait a minute if Lime Rock Park is #1, what is #2?
[Retired] VIR Full Course