"Its hard to exercise political freedom if you don't have economic freedom. If you're dependent upon the state for your livelihood you lose your voice to oppose them." That's one of the best arguments against socialism I've heard!!! 👍
it took months for the gov to give me social support -oh i was given money for those 3+ months.. about as much as a 25hour/week job on minimum wage, would have gotten me in barely more than one month .. honestly, i would prefer working some low end job in a grocery store, rather than be dependent on this inefficient, uncaring and at times hostile system. also im thousands in debt -why? well, it is MANDATORY to have insurance here. yes, *MANDATORY* and the insurance knows the exact dates that you do and do not have job -guess what they do if you dont have a job? 1.) silently demand that you tell them about your financial situaiton *which they already know about, more so than the unemployment agency* 2.) MAKE YOU PAY MORE, and treat you as if you are now suddenly a successful self employed person im thousands in debt, simply for not giving the "insurance" information they already had. and they dont care.
You dont have economic freedom in capitalist system unless you are rich. You cant get proper education, a house to live in and cant even get medical help without putting a huge debt on yourself. In Soviet Union anyone could join the party and raise all the way up to Politburo, soviets were consisting of regular people and there was an effort to make more people politically active and speak up. In Soviet Union your livelihood did not depend on your political views, except there was some corruption like in every other country, but KGB and OBKhSS worked to root it out.
@@sovietcitizen9450 then why did it collapse? why were the shelves empty? why did the economy stagnate? why does the US have the highest median income in the world? Why does economic freedom correlate so heavily with quality of life?
Yes, privately owned enterprise is handling these affairs quite terribly, let’s give them more power to solve it! “I’m from Exxon Mobile and I’m here to help.”
live in a soclialist country here, and can 100% inform you nobody is leaving in rafts - in fact people are very happy to immigrate to New Zealand, plenty of americans included. So, yeah, GET REKT SCRUB.
Except the people in the United States aren't electing the swamp rats in government anymore. Big tech, corporations, wall street and foreign adversaries put Biden in the White House.
@@MilwaukeeF40C the abolition movement preceded Jefferson by centuries and grew overtime irrespective of Jefferson. Jefferson was a hypocrite. All his ideas of freedom yet he aligned himself with other slave owners to create a new country were the practice of slavery would continue since it was ending in the British Empire.
@@Zhicano So once upon a time, there was "slavery," defined as black man working in the fields for white man and in return for his labor, white man gave him...food, clothing, and shelter. Here in 2021, about all I am seeing is the self-described descendants of those "slaves" still getting...free food, free shelter, and free money...just absent the need to labor. But hey, at least those beatings and lynchings stopped, right? Oh, and now, those white folks giving away all that free stuff? Oh, such nice people they are, right? And yes, Jefferson was such a...what's the word you used...oh yes, "hypocrite". And LBJ, that wonderful man who introduced black people to, you know, "Civil Rights" and, never forget that "Great Society" that started giving all those black people all that stuff because, well, golly, he really, really cared about them. No, nothing "hypocritical" at all about removing chains from a man's hands and feet and then putting in his brain where he becomes too stupid to think for himself because, well, look at all the free stuff we're getting. Thank you for clarifying all of this.
@@peterpan8263 Social media censorship violates the 1st Amendment. *Private companies* now decide what political opinions are allowed to be given a "platform". Bank of America gave customer information to the FBI *without a warrant. America is now a fascist country.
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp I lol and smh when people try to compare apples to oranges, usually its Scandinavian countries but since the video already rebutted that I suppose you thought you'd try a different country? Any person with half a brain and access to google could list 1000 different variables at work making your simplistic comparison completely pointless. You love NZ so much, move there. I love the constitution.
@@sandiasurfers3174 Sandia, I am a Kiwi. I lived and worked in Seattle for 42-years. Have two daughters in the US. Both doctors. I retired to NZ recently when my wife died. I have three quarters of a brain, and don't think my comparison is pointless at all. Not having lived in New Zealand you don't have the knowledge to compare the two counties like I do. And don't get me started on the American constitution. You don't want to go there my friend. BTW, any person with half a brain surely realizes that the US military is the biggest socialized institution in the world.
@@ponir.v7584 Our Dictatorial Lock down in New Zealand has made us truly free my friend. We have ZERO covid cases and are 100% back to normal. How is that "free" thing working out for the UK and the USA? Are they free from Covid? Or even free at all?
I don't know, the DemSocs on my campus swore they weren't "weird tankies," and then lost it as soon as I suggested that Fidel Castro may have been a bad guy. Their defense? "Come on, nobody's perfect!"
In reality nobody is perfect. Thats why we have to weigh their good and bad deeds. Fidel Castro overthrew a dictatorship that kill around 20,000 people, which is great. However according to some data, under Castro around 10,000 people died in Cuba. Personally I think Fidel was a evil hypocrite but the point is to weigh ones deeds.
I’m sorry I don’t see the virtue. Basically what was said here is “See, he only killed 10000 people”. But at least he’s not that guy. That is literally how alcoholics reason..
And also let’s not forget the hypocrisy here.. denouncing evil capitalism while he personally walked around wearing 2 Rolexes .. I have yet to see an advocate leader of socialism practice it.
and how is an election between two conservative right-wing party considered a democratic one... You can choose? between what? You need more parties in the US, and election fraud is a terrible problem (of cause I am not referring to Donald Trump's bs, neither to the Russia Gate bs, but to all the efforts to oppress voters, especially in inner-party-votes)
@@miguelcrusoe7019 how is that suppression and where? I live in a pretty rural location and although we only have one polling station, people manage to vote. Weird huh? People actually have to make some type of effort to elect the leader of the free world...
@@joelellis7035 I'm always amazed how the liberals never follow their own words. Ever. I mean, ok I get it if you have different and misguided political and economic views but damn why you expect others to do if you won't do it youselves?? And play the victim and always blame others?
@@userhome3601 "Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." -Alexis de Tocqueville
@@userhome3601 Socialism cannot work because of the inequality amongst people. People have varying degrees of ambition ranging from a Trump/Elon Musk type all the way down to a welfare queen living in her slum. There are all sorts of ambition levels in-between those 2 extremes. Resentment builds in the people who have any form of ambition and the socialist system inevitably collapses. That's why the USSR collapsed in 1991 and transformed into the capitalist democracy of Russia. It was due to the bitter resentment of economic "equality". Anyone who had more ambition than a welfare queen wanted more out of life. I was a tourist in the USSR the day it collapsed. That was the common complaint. They wanted more out of life than being locked into servitude for others.
"And the trees were all kept equal by hatchet, axe and saw". As a teenager I realized what they meant. Bad thing is that so many would be happy if everyone was as miserable as them.
Political democracy, is nothing more than tyranny imposed by 50%+1. Anything less than 100% voluntary action, is as unethical as a dictatorship. In practice though, republics tend to be less miserable, but political democracy is still fundamentally evil, not fundamentally good.
@@alexpeer2 The US is less capitalist than Scandinavian countries lmao. Look at the business tax and burden of regulations. Extreme capitalism is closer to Switzerland or HK, some of the best countries in the world. You are just repeating statements you've been told, that have no root in reality.
Stossel is one of the few people I still have respect for in media. I might not agree with him all the time, but he is honest and actually does journalism, which is unheard of these days .
He is the only person I know who doesn't try to be politically correct in the field of journalism Respect to this Noble Man from India, A socialist country
He does Journalism by drawing parallels between socialism, which is an economic system and fascism, which is a social system LOL. He perpetually misguides people.
@@kimobrien. Robots. Menial jobs will be replaced with droids, why pay a person 15 an hour when it costs $15 a day in power to run a roomba with cup holders?
@@amihere383 Who's going to buy all the trinkets you meatheads dream up when nobody has any money wages to buy them? How fast can you type on a keyboard?
@@kimobrien. When production costs approach nothing, not as much money will be needed to buy anything. Then we can simply not give anything to socialists for the fun of it.
@@MilwaukeeF40C We are a movement and you've never gotten very far with your secret police, your discriminatory blacklisting and your firing. We keep defeating you starting with the 1940 Minneapolis trial. We lost to Stalin and Hitler but only temporarily. See we are born without fear of the ruling class. We know how to push back. In the 1930's GM was the largest company in the world they signed a union contract after a successful sit down strike.
I think that many confuse "socialism" and "a capitalist society with a welfare system". They want free healthcare and education, not collectively owned factories.
You're exactly right. However, a US politician running on creating an even bigger welfare state than we have now would have trouble getting votes. If you dress it up as _democratic_ socialism, you can fool enough people into voting for you.
@@Chuck1Norris the problem is any decently sized company can't run if everyone gets to decide on decision. Economic responsibilities are spread out so much, no one has a direct stake in their descions. Not saying people shouldn't try doing so, it's a free market. Small business can run this way. But anything more then a dozen employees would make it extremely inefficient. Which is why it always turns into the state dictating the allocation of resources, price control etc. Which brings authoritarianism and stills not efficient.
You are completely right! I'm from Denmark and I hate when young Americans use my country as an "example of good socialism". They know nothing about our system. As our (now former) Prime Minister said we're not a socialist country. I pay 40% in taxes yes. But I can use the remaining 60% as I want.
My only beef is that I don’t want a government that doesn’t know me or care about me to use the first 40% for what will very likely be something I disagree with.
Almost all of the corruption in government is due to socialist policies and the corruption, waste & graft they draw like a magnet. Without socialist ideas in government there is very little to abuse, because socialism is the main method of infiltrating and taking advantage of the public coffers. That's where all the money/rewards come from in government corruption: bilking the citizens out of money in the name of socialist policies, sharing the 'burdens of the collective', etc. Nothing is easier to embezzle than money that belongs to no one in particular. THAT, is the basic problem with government: it inevitably draws in socialistic interests, collects funding from citizens for that purpose, and then has money for the taking -whoever is the most clever manipulator, gets it.
I'm glad I was homeschooled otherwise I'd have a higher chance of eating out of the dog shit bag that is "socialism." If it's so great, why did they build walls around it and people died trying to escape??! Their blusters are so XDXDXD
So, uh, I'm a licensed educator. I have a degree in secondary language arts (high school English). I heartily disagree with the original post. Home School never looked bad. Five years in college for education and three years in public schools as a teacher convinced me to home school my kids from day one. My daughter is starting seventh grade, and my son is going into second. Home schooling all the way. No regrets, and no plans to change. This year for physical education my daughter is learning how to shoot...better. She's been doing that in gym class since she was big enough to pull a trigger. She has no idea how to play volleyball though, or give control of her life to the government. Oops, I knew I forgot something in the curriculum.
Nope. Socialism is simply organized society. Communism is a scam posing as socialism dreamed up by an alien tribe to enslave nations. They intentionally confuse the two because they know communism has gotten a bad name. This ensures that we will abhor the idea of collectivizing or working towards a common good.
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 The Dichotomy between communism and capitalism is as phony as the feud between Fox News and CNN or Democrats and Republicans. The terms have been confused because both sides are controlled by the same people. No matter which one we choose they win and we lose.
@Adam Lee Capitalism is designed to create hostility in the masses and incite communist insurrection. Marx didn't actually hate capitalism. He saw it as a tool to achieve his communist utopia. Actually, Marx didn't care about communism or capitalism. He only saw them as tools. Phony ideologies whose purpose was to enslave all of humanity to his tribe.
It is ironic that when people complain about the "evils of capitalism" they are frequently complaining about the few aspects of our system that are actually socialist.
When socialists look at socialist states, they see a field of manure with a rose growing in the middle of it and they say, "Look how beautiful that rose is." When they look at a capitalist state, they see a field of roses with a pile of manure in the middle of it and they say, "Look how ugly that manure is."
Very well stated. The current "Burn It Down" BLM rhetoric will only cause murders, riots, and eventually starvation when the producers are exterminated.
@@tubeguy4066 No system on earth has only roses. All humans are imperfect and only a fool can expect a Utopian society to be built by imperfect beings. All our societies are imperfect and there's no changing that no matter what you do.
@@tubeguy4066 I believe strongly that it is not possible. There cannot be a complex social system that allows only for good outcomes for every person. It is a truism of human nature that every person will make some bad decisions and that some people will make almost all bad decisions. Bad decisions lead to bad outcomes. There can't be a system which recognizes human nature in which outcomes are not dependent upon decisions. The best that can be hoped for is a system in which each person has the liberty to realize his potential to whatever degree he is willing to achieve it, free of coercion and unjust obstruction, and to minimize the number of people who make, and the severity of, bad decisions. Such a system of liberty inherently includes the latitude to fail or act badly. Every right carries within it the slack for bad actors to misuse it. (Unfortunately, as an aside, too many people think that defending a right when it is exercised badly is the same as defending the bad action.) So, the system for the most good outcomes, fewest bad outcomes, good outcomes of the highest expression and bad outcomes of the least harm would be built on free market capitalism, minimal republican government and personal liberty in all aspects of life. Such a system existed until January 20, 2021. Whether it exists now or will continue to exist into the future is up in the air.
"Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Yeah, just simply untrue - Germany, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and many more, are all democratic socialist countries. Here in NZ, we swing back and forth along the power that government has, but overall the government tends to have more power than the private sector. That quote is just simply totally untrue. I love it here, and I pity the blind ignorant americans that have been completely indocrinated by the propaganda they learned in school.
@@geegeetomlinson2316In your comment you make this argument that nations like Germany, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada are democratic socialist nations. This is inaccurate as even though the current leader could enact socialist leaning policies, it doesn't mean that the overall nation is socialist. Another reason as to why you're really wrong here is that these countries that you list are practically successful because of the markets. Sweden for example has a low corporate tax rate and creates wealth via markets.
@@JamesMaximum When you abolish private property then you've gone down the socialist road other wise you've just won a reform from the capitalist bosses. Private Property is the property used to exploit others rather than out right slavery the bosses become the owners of everything giving orders based upon maximizing profits for themselves. The profits come from the unpaid labor of the production workers. Its this privatization of the socially produced surplus that has such contradictory implications for production itself. Capitalism is the first system to suffer from crisis of overproduction. It also creates greedy ruling classes based in nation states who take the fight for profits onto the battlefield of world war. Markets create nothing other than to provide a place for exchange and state to arbitrate disputes among those who exchange either labor or commodities. The workers exchange their labor for a wage that must pay the cost to reproduce it for the next pay period while the bosses seek the longest hours and to pay he lowest wages such that the can sell the commodities produced for a profit. By replacing individual labor with machines and social labor the capitalist have enable a vastly superior way to produce over all past methods. All the old handicraft methods were put on trial by the cost of labor the wiiners were the loom, the steam engine and the modern factory methods.
Ok I’ll bite. I know the video chad said that democratically voted socialists kill democracy but that doesn’t immediately make it an oxymoron. Socialism simplified is the government producing certain services and democracy simplified is people voting for representatives to do things in the government. Nothing there portrays them as an oxymoron.
It's the opposite. Socialism is always democratic by definition. You don't have to specify that it's democratic. No democracy means no socialism. No buts, no ifs.
@@UGMD This is fundamentally wrong. Socialism is not government services. The fact that this gets conflated by both liberals and conservatives is completely confounding to me. The basic tenet of socialism is that workers control the means of production. It is an economic ideology, not a political one. Government spending is a separate, although adjacent issue. The question is, who controls manufacturing, production, entertainment, etc? Socialism says it's all workers equally. That's the goal of socialism. But no one has come up with a mechanism for how this would sustain itself. So inevitably in all socialist structures, the government takes over the position of controlling production, thus eliminating any checks and balances. As is stated in the video: once democratically elected, the people have less and less leverage to unelect socialist leaders, until they have none at all.
@@mikewilliams6025 I know socialism from Bernie Sanders and the things I see him pushing are increased government services to support working people. His means to the “socialism” end are probably clouding my definition.
We're experiencing "New age socialism with Chinese characteristics" where large corporations work with government to help each other stay in power / maintain monopoly
Not if we can help it. I would think Congress for the incumbent Democrats is not as safe as they may presume. I think many of them realize this or else they would not have placed barbed wire around it. They know their tyrants.
@@grawr3534 pretty much, calling it fascism with Chinese characters would make as much scene. They just like running around spewing Marxist nonsense, while not knowing and practicing what they're saying.
@@dole8001 Are those adults product of failed higher education with useless degrees and mountain of debt? Or, adults that made poor decisions all throughout their lives and blames everyone else for their failures? Or, adults that are naïve utopians? Or, adults with ulterior motive wanting the ultimate power over people? I know some of these 'adults'.
@@StosselTV That's true. But, kids are taught by social media instead of conducting their own research. Social media algorithm continues to cater to the end user's interest which could prevent them from forming their own opinions. Are there anymore free thinkers?
@@StosselTV Ty for videos. Explaining the arguments for capitalism is also very important, and you’ve done this, too. The Sandy Springs and Tragedy of the Commons were so important. Please consider looking into something that I discovered around age 40, which no one seems to know: Robin Hood was basically in law enforcement. He stopped thieves and returned stolen property. The original movie with Errol Flynn presented this clearly.
Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil (previously with Lula), Bolivia and now the next on the list Ecuador. Latin America is always the guinea pig for those kind of stuff specially Socialism and Democratic Socialism.
@@justdriftingthroughlife9378 Basically all those people who still asking for social plans and money for the government even though is made out of their own taxes and specially by the people who are working their asses to make a decent buck.
“Tell me about any country or nation, past or present, that does not have elites running it who have more rights, power, property, benefits, wealth, and services than the common people. Therefore, the right question is under which system have the common people enjoyed the greatest prosperity since all systems have the same elites at the top who profess different slogans to exploit the common people.” -Kevin Everett FitzMaurice
This is fantastic. I've had thoughts along these lines, but never so clearly and concisely expressed. I will have to use this next time I'm debating with a good friend of mine who is very left leaning. Thank you for sharing good sir.
@@DonVigaDeFierro Yes, and yours is a brilliant observation. You will love this quotation. Feel free to use it. “I believe it safe to say that all progress must lead, not to further progress, but finally to the negation of progress, a return to the point of departure.” -Eugène Delacroix
I think its funny that many on the left say "stop calling us socialists! Were not even socialists!" But then point to Scandinavia as an example of being socialist
"It's ridiculous people on the right call us socialist when we just want socialized healthcare, massive wealthfare state and more government control over the economy" "The post office is socialism being tried in America"
Thou hast yoted weak yeet, and thereof committed false yeethery. Thou canst only be blessed by Him who hath yote the universe. Thou single hope lies in the kind loving grace of the one true God. Yeet on young man and do not ye yeet recieveth.
@@Dennis-nc3vw what kind of argument was that. After paying the costs to maintain a roof over your head, a car, insurance and all that you’re literally left with a starvation wage. Your wages shouldn’t just be meant to cover the cost of merely existing.
@@Zhicano And they aren’t meant to. If you’re making minimum wage and older than say 25 then you have made some really bad life choices and shouldn’t be able to force your employer to pay you more. What if you’re not worth more an hour?
Exactly. They say "each according to their needs and abilities" when talking about socialism, but WHO gets to decide what are other peoples needs and abilitites? The government perhaps, that is already tyrannical now.
"From each according to his ability. To each according to his need." This sounds like a great philosophy. The problem is that in order to make those determinations, you must have intimate knowledge of the abilities and needs of each. That can only be had in a family or a very small group. Once you get above that number, it becomes "From each according to _what_ _the_ _committee_ _has_ _determined_ _is_ his ability. To each according to _what_ _the_ _committee_ _has_ _determined_ _is_ his need."
And workers won't control the means of production, the party does same as always. They really think they're part of something but they're just stepping stones used by people with more charisma and better lying skills using the dream of a guy that never held down a job. Communists, socialists whatever they want to call themselves will keep doing this to people for as long as they can keep their mistakes out of the public's mouths with that wasn't real socialism or communism.
And in a free market economy, he CHOOSES where he works and accepts the compensation and working conditions, and when he's on his own time, what he spends his wages on. He CHOOSES what beer to drink as long as he can afford it, and whatever entertainment he avails himself of. If that's parking it on the couch in front of the boob tube and watching the Simpsons, that's his own care. The key concept is: CHOICE.
@@selfdo Also, he barely "chooses" what to spend because there is a literal industry (advertising) designed to try to make people buy stuff; why don't they just let the consumers look at all the options carefully instead of just listening to the ad slogans?
REPUBLIC of yugoslavia. REPUBLIC of China.... I swear, I cannot. You people need to read some Marx. Just because it says a kingdom doesn't tell anything about their economic system. Most kingdoms were feudalist!
@@fds7476 Last time I checked, the Scandinavian countries were scaling back their social programs as they were unsustainable. Social programs does not equal true socialism as Bernie and AOC want.
stossel's out here fighting the good fight. i wish people could be won over with reason but every time i look around i become more convinced that things wont work as nicely.
@@aidenaune7008 They really are not. Only 3 of the commandments make any sense at all to encode to into a legal system. Where are the laws against coveting in western legal systems? What about having no other gods, where's that one? Even adultery is not generally illegal in western nations. In some places, you might be open to civil suits for it, and it may play a role in divorces, but that's it.
@@alexpeer2 you need to be more realistic, it would be impossible for the government to afford all those social programs. Not to metion the fact, it would be giving the government more power then it needs.
I recently came across a very interesting book, called 'Socialism: The Failed Idea That Never Dies', written by Kristian Niemietz. He meticulously dissects many attempted implementations of socialism, how and why they failed and what the outcome was. He also dedicates many pages to the methods socialists use to spin the narrative and shift the blame away from their bogus ideology, once the s**t hits the fan. It's an easy, yet inspiring read that contains a myriad of arguments, which might be suited to rhetorically arm everyone watching you.
That's a cool story. Now you should read Karl Marx's "Capital" and understand what socialism is really about. Because if you knew what socialism really is, then you would understand that socialism hasn't failed at all and exists right in the heart of America through the many worker cooperatives that have existed for years. Maybe you've been getting spoon fed a narrative all along and have missed the facts. 🤷♂️
@@Hunterchuck Wow, I didn't know people as challenged as you are allowed to roam free. But I've got to admit, 'Everything is socialism!" is something new, 'Real socialism has never been tried!' was getting old anyway. Let me make it clear: Unions and interest groups aren't socialism, taxes aren't socialism and welfare and caring for people in need isn't Socialism as well. Heck, even state organized health insurance isn't socialism, as long as it's implementation is reasonable. What is socialism is: Stealing everything from the people with merit and consuming it until nothing is left, crippling the economy with dumb policies and enslaving the people, leading to 100'000'000+ dead, many more poor or starving and ruined Nations, such as the former USSR, Mao's China, Cuba, North Korea, East Germany, Venezuela, California etc. Marx outlined interesting ideas in 'Das Kapital', he even had a pretty good grasp on the capitalism of the 19th century, but his conclusions were just plain bullshit, today more than ever. He might have had somewhat of a point in 1867, when all workers were unskilled and had to slave away in a factory for 12+ hours a day. Nowadays, this has been made obsolete by automation and it has become clear, that all the means of production are worthless without educated people operating them. People with merit have total freedom to negotiate their pay on the free market, even more so since the information age has enabled everyone to acquire any information basically for free. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economical system than ever before. A poor person today lives better than the upper middle class 100 years ago. That's because it functions similar to evolution: Free markets reward productive and efficient ideas and punish those that aren't. If your plans in life don't work out or seem too hard to achieve, live with it or try something else. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE EARNED FOR THEMSELVES!
@@dh510 That 100 million number has been proven false times and times again. Even 2 of the 3 writers talked about how the 3rd person litterally counted people who weren't born, nazi soldiers, civil wars, 2nd world war, or just millions added here and there. Also capitalism is not a meritocracy, if your family has connections, money, power, it is infinitely easier to get a job, create a business, ... And if you keep this going you will see richer people getting richer as they already have money to start something and poor people get poorer. If capitalism rewards efficency and innovation, why most of the technology you use today has been created by governments(gps, satellites, computers, internet, ...) businesses take what has already been created and spin it around to call it a product. A tendency of capitalism as it is a competitive system, creates winners and losers, the losers go bankrupt and the winners take the market. I know that monopolies are impossible as they need external help, but a lot of companies have monopolistic powers even without being an actual monopoly (buying competitors, merging, and cartels to ensure no competition between companies). People most often than not, have no say on their pay, work hours or they will one way or another get replaced, this is also why unemployment is good to capitalist, more people are desperate for a job, more likely they will accept no matter the cost. Capitalism hasn't made any particular nation richer, why you always look at good capitalist exemples and bad socialist exemples and not the other way around? Can you explain to me why Ethiopia, South Africa, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Burkina Faso, Chad, Pakistan, Indonesia, ... aren't doing well? It's actually socialist reforms that made these countries at the very least less miserable. Look at Thomas Sankara in Burkina Faso, Allende in chile, Mossadegh in Iran, Castro in Cuba, and others how they improved materially the life of countless people. I hope you can at least reconsider what you are saying
@@Hunterchuck Marx's ideas didn't work at all in the USSR. Why do you think that the USSR was overthrown in 1991 by a revolution and replaced with the capitalist democracy of Russia??? Socialism has NEVER worked throughout human history. The pilgrims tried it and it failed. It was tried in the 16th century British colony of Jamestown in what's now Virginia. It failed. People are not equal. You are not equal to Elon Musk, for example, who has much more drive and ambition. You are not equal to Trump, Gates, Buffett, etc for the exact same reason. People with ambition are not satisfied with handouts, sponging off the system and living off the system like a 2 year old dependent child. That's why socialism inevitably fails
@@pollypurree1834 What on earth did I just read? LMAO! "The USSR was overthrown in 1991" - No, it was dissolved by Gorbachev to destabilize Communist control of the government. This led to the collapse of the Soviet Union, at least in name since the country did not change at all. Not even the Soviet revolution changed anything about the country other than what they started calling themselves, but the economic system remained in control of the government. This is called a command economy in economics. "Socialism has NEVER worked throughout human history." - Wrong again even by your own definition of socialism. North Korea, China, and many other so-called communist/socialist nations are still in existence with the same USSR formula. If we use Karl Marx's definition of socialism then it can be seen in the thousands of worker cooperatives around the world. So essentially you are just wrong on all accounts. Better luck next time I guess
@Jefe Anson not one person can explain it to the ones who are deluded with the propaganda. They're absolutely religiously committed regardless of easy to explain facts. No one.
You're not much of a logician, are you? You see, there's other logically consistent options. You could agree with Stossel (which, according to what you're implying, means you're in touch with reality) but still dislike him, for example.
I've worked as an Engineer in Manufacturing for over 40 years and was amazed at how much training employees, managers and myself were required to take. Our Politicians need training......reality training......everyone in Congress or the Senate or any other important job should have to spend time with Police, the Fire Dept, working in a Federal Prison and at the Boarder!
True, only way they will learn is the hard way. If west becomes socialist i am moving to Russia, they at least know what socialism means and won`t fall for that crap anytime soon.
@Rabbi Eladio Imenezshtien Not only Christians but also Slavic pagans (Rodnovery), Buddhists and Muslims. For reds we are all trash that has to get neutrilized.
I'll forward this and part 1 to my niece for her birthday tomorrow. A few months ago, I shuddered when she said, "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would make a great president." Thanks John Stossel and team! One of a few voices of reason in a sea of nonsense.
That's not at all what democratic socialism is about, idiot. That's Marxism. Stop confusing the two. I live in New Zealand, a country that swings towards giving the Public sector more power than the Private sector (higher taxes, more centralized power and regulation of business - aka democratic socialism.) We are NOT communist - we are socialist. We have a free market, but also have many publicly owned enterprises. I pay for services that feed back into my own life - services that at some point, I am likely to need. Healthcare, schooling and transport primarily - i have zero issue with my tax dollars going towards these initiatives that help others. So yeah, you and John have a fundamental misunderstanding of democratic socialism and you can both go to hell.
Everything you own will be OUR(states) fair share for the good, and in the favor of the common people and for all of US the working people(state). - Communism
It’s because they been proven wrong and like this video speak so much facts there pressed like literally Bernie sanders the man who started socialist democracy had the prime minister of Denmark say that Denmark Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia was far from socialist and that they were a free market economy based on capitalism Bernie must have cried his eyes out when he saw that happen😂
5:04 "In the last 20 years, we've seen more humans escape extreme poverty than any other time in human history, and that's because of markets." Amen. I wish THIS was taught in schools.
@shid I know this is an old post, but have you lost your mind. China REPORTS 0% poverty. Venezuela can't feed its people. Most long-term homeless Americans CHOOSE that lifestyle, the rest suffer from various mental illnesses and will not accept the help they need. In America, you can buy a house away from the large cities for a reasonable amount. I bought two on a less-than-average wage.
Stossel is one of the best break down journalists on youtube. Some of these quick breakdowns are some of the best arsenal to bad arguments i've ever heard.
Correct, I have been to Cuba and have been in China as well. I have seen the way they live, what they have, what they don't have and the level of un-content. You don't see people fleeing to either country for a reason. Wake up basement kids. Go get a job.
@@jett7499 the problem isn't always they don't have jobs ect many of the Socialist pushers came from decent income families. It's their lack of thinking how the system they think would be utopian will end like many other Socialism trials where the Socialist State oppresses the people when it starts to show it doesn't work.
Well, you are right. At least chavez had place to vote where they officially was and not in the middle of highway or bottom of the sea like emperor joe.
@@kabar7929 it's not "authoritarian" to educate/inform people. It's what every parent is obligated to do for their own children. If they have a shred of decency in them. Most people won't grow up well adjusted, smart or wise by being left to figure everything out for themselves. They will have ruined their lives before even getting started.
Does anyone else feel like they are a lone fire fighter struggling to extinguish a blaze that threatens the entire wood built town, asking others to help, but most do nothing and those that act are air dropping napalm?
Unfortunately yes. My business can't take much more of this shit, pretty soon the only companies left will be big corporations subsidized by the government
To me, it seems americans are so scared of the word socialism they cannot even think of a situation in which both can be useful. Depending on the situation and the country, I think socialism and capitalism can be combined to achieve the best society.
Here's a question I rarely get an answer to: A spectrum is a device for measuring something from one extreme to the other. On a political spectrum that puts communists on the left, fascists on the right, and US political parties in the middle, what exactly is being measured?
It is unfair to say national socialism is socicialism as normally defined. Especially the ultra anti-semitism and ultra-nationlism. Though fascism has strong roots in scoiclism, originating from the Jacobins and other radicals in the French revolution. Mussolini was a socialiat. Fascist mainly splitted over nationalist/cultural views. Both are highly collectivist ideologies that by definition needs authotrianism. Fascist also promote state economic control. They differ on rather it's for the common good of "humanity" or the "nation". That's how you can have a socialist state like China turn into effectively a fascist state without much changes.
@@ivovloet The problem with socialism is that we are applying it to the wrong species. Humans are naturally capitalistic purely because we are built to survive. That doesn't mean we're not generous or caring, just that we want what is best for us and our "tribe" over all others. Actually sit most of these socialist believers down and hold them to socialist standards,. They'll change their tune real quick.
@@Echo5427_ First thing the Soviets did after WWII was slaughter socialists after broadcasted show trials and use Nazi collaborators to form their puppet governments. Do you really believe the persecution of rivals is significantly meaningful?
We are seeing this play out right now in Canada and Australia. In both countries the government is ignoring the law in the name of public safety. The citizens have no rights except for the rights that the government allows.
That’s what a lot of people don’t get. No reasonable human will pay so that a mentally unstable teen chops his dick off, or so that universities keep spewing out idiots with degrees in gender studies
@NS I I’m not ideologically against selling your own work. It’s your labor you’re entitled to gain from it. What communists like me don’t like is how people profit off your labor and time. Taking from you something that they had no part in producing. Without the worker nothing would be created no service, no product. Workers are the only people that can create something with value. We’re given a set wage, high rent prices, high food costs, and high insurance costs because capitalists benefit from the workers labor. It’s how they get their profits in the first place. Not in a product they sell but from the work you and I do. Because like I said we can create things that have value.
@@Zhicano Correct, however under socialism, the book belongs to society as a whole, and not just any one individual. So in selling it, wouldn't you be forced to split any profits between all stakeholders? Let's say the book sold at a highly inflated rate of $100 at the aforementioned event. Distributing proceeds amongst the entire US population (splitting it roughly 335M ways) would yield a net profit of 1/100,000 of a single cent. Under a capitalist model, the book would likely sell for a fraction of the cost and the author and publisher would be the only people that profit from its sale. And rightfully so, since no one else who would otherwise profit from it contributed it its production
I find it hilarious that people point to the public schools as a socialist success and thirty seconds later complain about our terrible school performance.
We just need to throw more money at it don't you know? I find it hilarious that the same people who complain that we spend more per capita on health care than any other industrialized country while getting worse outcomes and want us to completely revamp our healthcare system because of that are the same people who refuse to consider any change to our education system despite spending more per capita than any other nation while getting worse outcomes.
Thank you, John, for all your work exposing as much of the truth as you can. I know that none of us has all of the truth, but as all of us have part of it, it is good to share what we have. You do an excellent job of making it lively and interesting. (I loved the one you did on panhandling, especially the "Out of Beer" sign.)
That's if you believe that "good intentions" had anything to do with socialism. I suspect "rape them, murder them and take everything they got" was a common intention.
I get it, who doesn’t want free stuff? Thing is, eventually the free stuff runs out. Also, I tend to respect things that I’ve earned as opposed to given. It feels good to finally get something that I’ve saved up for. “I’m from the government and I’m here to help”.....uh huh.
Stop using those free roads, stop flushing your toilets into those free sewers, stop calling that free 911 service when you need help, stop expecting your employees to know how to read from those free schools, stop enjoying all the free stuff then. Buy your own military to make sure you don't get bombed while you're at it.
@@0trynewthings0 First off capitalism works because its competitive and I can't even begin to imagine when competing sewer systems or roads would look like. Second if you get an education or use a road you pay it forward to society, because it would be a lot harder for companies to find productive laborers without these things. Same thing with police and military (no one would have a motive to be productive if criminals could just come and steal their stuff). Socialism totally ignores the idea of whether their programs "pay it forward" and just enables people to be parasites in the name of compassion. The result is decreased motivation to work, which leads to a smaller pool of wealth, which leads to decreased value of money, which leads to more wealth being extracted to achieve the same ends, which further decreases motivation to work, etc.
@@Dennis-nc3vw People in this country want 1. healthcare, 2. education, 3. taxing of the super-rich to reduce the wealth gap, 4. money out of politics so leaders can't be bribed. NO ONE, I repeat, no one, ever asked for everything to be government-owned and free. That's just idiots trying to demonize the word socialism so that the super-rich can keep getting richer while the middle class is replaced with minimum wage and part-time slave workers.
@@0trynewthings0 ....what’s the problem with someone being super rich? MOST of these people earned it. They risked everything for a large reward. I think having billions is crazy, but it’s their money. They also invest fortunes into other companies which in turn employs many people. Everyone has the ability to move past minimum wage.
1:30 “Democratic socialism is your kids’ public school.” Said w such sincerity, it’s terrifying. Suddenly I’m not so unhappy about not having children, instead sticking with Irish Setters and Goldens. I could see home schooling as a viable alternative, as difficult as it must be for parents.
Problem is that just like wearing a mask and socially distancing, people will follow these politicians...I blame the education institutions and the role of government on how they make the decisions and what our children should learn...
In a perfect world people will wear masks to prevent the spread of disease to others without the government's decision. Social distancing is pretty stupid though, especially with public transport being so prevalent. Masks are enough
Dude, no offense intended, but please reread what you posted and then go look up the term 'irony' and see if you don't accidently give yourself brain damage when you facepalm.
@@alexpeer2 All those prefixes and euphemisms are irrelevant. Capitalism is capitalism. Anything else is idealism . It’s a system. Private ownership of the means of production and the need to constantly accumulate wealth and property is at the base of capitalism. It functions the way it’s supposed to no matter how much it negatively affects working people. Regulations are a bandaid to the system to prevent it excesses from consuming itself like it almost has time and time again during its booms and busts cycles. The US is no new guy in the development of capitalism it was there during its birthing process from feudalism. No “middle ground” is secure enough. The continued existence of a capitalist class will hinder all progress made at every turn and the process of exploitation of the global south will continue. Just look at Europe today. All positive regulations and welfare programs are gnawed at the feet by politicians at the behest of capitalists and bankers who will eventually destroy those policies as they have in the US.
@@Zhicano all socialist experiments have failed. You can say those werent "true socialism" or were state capitalism but that is always what you get after a socialist revolution. Socialism requires an authoritarian state to expropriate the businesses people have built, take the wealth people worked for, and redistribute it. I used to think socialist revolutionaries had a point, but you have to wake up! if socialism worked to improve the ceiling for the quality of life of people there would be a current socialist world power. But no, even china gave up socialism after mao for dengism with large party controlled capitalist corporations to improve their situation
@@snpandsnb1953 All socialist experiments have not failed. Cuba is still ongoing, Korea is still managing, China, Lao, and Vietnam were forced to introduce a controlled capitalism to develop its productive forces in order to allocate resources because previous attempts such as the Great Leap Forward weren’t able to efficiently industrialize the country enough to produce all the things a socialist country experiment needs to run. Socialism is a step from capitalism. It develops from the contradictions within capitalism that renders it incapable of sustaining itself. It’s a process there’s no magical “now we have socialism button”. Even the Soviet Union went through a phase in order to allocate money and materials. Countries like Bolivia, Nicaragua and Venezuela are alternative socialist projects in the making because they’ve gone the same route as Chile did in the early 70s by winning elections while creating a secondary power base of workers to defend the socialist project. This slower approach is a materialist approach for developing countries to shake off American imperialism and exploitation. The past socialist projects were besieged constantly by the US and allies. They put on embargoes, sanctions, regime change, color revolutions, coups, assassinations and mass propaganda networks to stifle any any movement that even decided to challenge American hegemony post WW2. Just look at what America did to Guatemala in the 50s for doing simple land reform that helped out peasant farmers not the United Fruit Company. Look at the Iran Contra affair where cartels and deaths-quads were given weapons and money to attack the socialist Nicaraguan government and supporters. Look at Nixons and the CIAs involvement with the coup against the democratically elected socialist president Salvdor Allende. Even worse look up the Jakarta Method. Literally look it up. The US aided Indonesia in literally murder of 1 million leftists and used the same lessons learned on other countries with large socialist support. Hell the USA, Germany, France and the UK invaded Russian during the Russian civil war to defeat the revolution. Socialism improved peoples lives. It increased literacy rates, decreased infant mortality rates, gave people healthcare, free education, right to work, maternity and paternity leave, subsidized housing and much more. The reason why I couldn’t maintain a quality of life similar to the west was because it lacked in its ability to produce consumer goods. Which was a big reason why people in socialist countries were attracted to the capitalist west and because the socialist states were always handicapped by capitalist countries.
@@Zhicano What I am saying is that you dont have to ban private property for "literacy rates, decreased infant mortality rates, gave people healthcare, free education, right to work, maternity and paternity leave, subsidized housing" scandinavia is social democracies and they have all these things. Nationalizing the economy is not a good way of producing a variety of consumer goods like in capitalist countries. socialists would say capitalism creates consumer goods that are unnecessary but why should the state say what I should be able to buy or want. Thats why social democracies are better atleast in western nations because they nationalize/socialize industries that are of the public good like healthcare, housing to an extent, and leave consumer goods to the market which allows for better items and variety of items for the people. Instead of having one brand of tomato sauce like in Cuba, we have dozens and the socialist rebuttal that "all these products are from the same 3 companies" is invalid because under a centralized economy, it would only be 1 product from the state allowed.
Your correct. The problem is not only do so many young people don't really understand, they don't want to learn the truth. They have been successful propagandize.
@@barnibombosz1448 No, I acknowledge that European countries like Sweden, Denmark, and Germany aren't socialist. Even John Stossel recognizes that. Only Bernie Bros and dumb Trump supporters call social democracies socialist.
TO CLARIFY: The USPS is not funded by the government. That said, because it's the USPS it's not subject to the same risks as privet companies. Furthermore, they have a number of practices that are running it into the ground. Their promotion and job bidding system is based on seniority rather than merit. This leads to a number of poor managers who have spent many years playing the system rather than learning about the work itself. Thus, there isn't really incentive to work hard when it doesn't do much to determine how far you'll go.
I still haven't found a "democratic" socialist that has ever been able to explain how someone is able to vote for an outcome that is already determined for them.
"This is class war, eat the rich, feed the poor!" says the comparatively rich, and objectively obese American man. He is the rich, and his fat gut could certainly feed a few families.
I am an American living in China. The reason China is so rich now is because they implemented capitalism. There are very little socialist or communist qualities in this country today.
"Its hard to exercise political freedom if you don't have economic freedom. If you're dependent upon the state for your livelihood you lose your voice to oppose them."
That's one of the best arguments against socialism I've heard!!! 👍
Yup! It's time we defund the Socialist Police Unions!
it took months for the gov to give me social support
-oh i was given money for those 3+ months.. about as much as a 25hour/week job on minimum wage, would have gotten me in barely more than one month
.. honestly, i would prefer working some low end job in a grocery store, rather than be dependent on this inefficient, uncaring and at times hostile system.
also im thousands in debt -why?
well, it is MANDATORY to have insurance here.
yes, *MANDATORY*
and the insurance knows the exact dates that you do and do not have job
-guess what they do if you dont have a job?
1.) silently demand that you tell them about your financial situaiton
*which they already know about, more so than the unemployment agency*
2.) MAKE YOU PAY MORE, and treat you as if you are now suddenly a successful self employed person
im thousands in debt, simply for not giving the "insurance" information they already had.
and they dont care.
You dont have economic freedom in capitalist system unless you are rich.
You cant get proper education, a house to live in and cant even get medical help without putting a huge debt on yourself.
In Soviet Union anyone could join the party and raise all the way up to Politburo, soviets were consisting of regular people and there was an effort to make more people politically active and speak up.
In Soviet Union your livelihood did not depend on your political views, except there was some corruption like in every other country, but KGB and OBKhSS worked to root it out.
@@sovietcitizen9450 then why did it collapse? why were the shelves empty? why did the economy stagnate? why does the US have the highest median income in the world? Why does economic freedom correlate so heavily with quality of life?
For quite long time main socialist groups were for decentralization, like syndicalists and various groups of anarcho-socialists.
Yes, government is handling these affairs quite terribly, let's give them more power to solve it!
I'm from the government and I'm here to help
Yes, privately owned enterprise is handling these affairs quite terribly, let’s give them more power to solve it!
“I’m from Exxon Mobile and I’m here to help.”
You're implying Trump and Biden are basically the same.
@@Philly1cheasteak Biden is exactly what the media tried to warn us about Trump.
Trump cares about the people, Biden cares about his net worth.
@@Philly1cheasteak They are the same. Just two different cheeks on the ass of global capitalism.
Imagine if people started saying, "It wasn't real fascism."
Well it literally wasn’t...
@@gplastic Here we are.
Haha funny Catholics and Muslims they are awoke hahaha
Just wait.
@@ianjharris Somebody may very well say that and you might even get Republican Socialists.
"I can't wait to finally finish this raft so I can escape all of this capitalism". What no one said, ever.
live in a soclialist country here, and can 100% inform you nobody is leaving in rafts - in fact people are very happy to immigrate to New Zealand, plenty of americans included.
So, yeah, GET REKT SCRUB.
Nor did a couple of West German families cobble together a makeshift balloon to ESCAPE to East Germany.
Millions of Yankees sneaking into Mexico. 😆
Other way around bean boy
@@cobanus2862 Try reading it properly bean boy.
“The government you elect is the government you deserve.” ― Thomas Jefferson
Except the people in the United States aren't electing the swamp rats in government anymore. Big tech, corporations, wall street and foreign adversaries put Biden in the White House.
Did he say that to his slaves too?
@@Zhicano The principles of Jefferson were the beginning of the end of slavery.
@@MilwaukeeF40C the abolition movement preceded Jefferson by centuries and grew overtime irrespective of Jefferson. Jefferson was a hypocrite. All his ideas of freedom yet he aligned himself with other slave owners to create a new country were the practice of slavery would continue since it was ending in the British Empire.
@@Zhicano
So once upon a time, there was "slavery," defined as black man working in the fields for white man and in return for his labor, white man gave him...food, clothing, and shelter.
Here in 2021, about all I am seeing is the self-described descendants of those "slaves" still getting...free food, free shelter, and free money...just absent the need to labor.
But hey, at least those beatings and lynchings stopped, right? Oh, and now, those white folks giving away all that free stuff? Oh, such nice people they are, right?
And yes, Jefferson was such a...what's the word you used...oh yes, "hypocrite".
And LBJ, that wonderful man who introduced black people to, you know, "Civil Rights" and, never forget that "Great Society" that started giving all those black people all that stuff because, well, golly, he really, really cared about them. No, nothing "hypocritical" at all about removing chains from a man's hands and feet and then putting in his brain where he becomes too stupid to think for himself because, well, look at all the free stuff we're getting.
Thank you for clarifying all of this.
Thanks John for educating the public in a way schools don’t.
Gotta love the unbiased teaching by John. It would fiy perfectly into the standard education
The definition of fascism is corporate run government & that is the opposite of people voting for programs for the people (Democratic socialism)
@@peterpan8263 Social media censorship violates the 1st Amendment. *Private companies* now decide what political opinions are allowed to be given a "platform". Bank of America gave customer information to the FBI *without a warrant.
America is now a fascist country.
Can we just clone John for a chain of charter schools?
It's true. Despite the biases students encounter at school, few would embrace such blatant disinformation and propaganda like Stossel does.
"Democratic Socialism is like your kid's school"
Yeah that's a great example of how awful an idea it is...
Democratic Socialism is like New Zealand.
A country with one of the highest standard of living in the world.
And everybody is truly free.
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp I lol and smh when people try to compare apples to oranges, usually its Scandinavian countries but since the video already rebutted that I suppose you thought you'd try a different country?
Any person with half a brain and access to google could list 1000 different variables at work making your simplistic comparison completely pointless.
You love NZ so much, move there. I love the constitution.
@@sandiasurfers3174 Sandia, I am a Kiwi. I lived and worked in Seattle for 42-years. Have two daughters in the US. Both doctors. I retired to NZ recently when my wife died.
I have three quarters of a brain, and don't think my comparison is pointless at all. Not having lived in New Zealand you don't have the knowledge to compare the two counties like I do.
And don't get me started on the American constitution. You don't want to go there my friend.
BTW, any person with half a brain surely realizes that the US military is the biggest socialized institution in the world.
Dictatorial covid lockdowns are not truly free. Have a nice day.
@@ponir.v7584 Our Dictatorial Lock down in New Zealand has made us truly free my friend.
We have ZERO covid cases and are 100% back to normal.
How is that "free" thing working out for the UK and the USA? Are they free from Covid? Or even free at all?
I don't know, the DemSocs on my campus swore they weren't "weird tankies," and then lost it as soon as I suggested that Fidel Castro may have been a bad guy.
Their defense? "Come on, nobody's perfect!"
In reality nobody is perfect. Thats why we have to weigh their good and bad deeds.
Fidel Castro overthrew a dictatorship that kill around 20,000 people, which is great.
However according to some data, under Castro around 10,000 people died in Cuba.
Personally I think Fidel was a evil hypocrite but the point is to weigh ones deeds.
Unless it’s a straight, white, Christian male. Then they’re down-right evil! SMH…..
I’m sorry I don’t see the virtue. Basically what was said here is “See, he only killed 10000 people”. But at least he’s not that guy. That is literally how alcoholics reason..
And also let’s not forget the hypocrisy here.. denouncing evil capitalism while he personally walked around wearing 2 Rolexes .. I have yet to see an advocate leader of socialism practice it.
"A dependent voter is a dependable voter."
and how is an election between two conservative right-wing party considered a democratic one... You can choose? between what? You need more parties in the US, and election fraud is a terrible problem (of cause I am not referring to Donald Trump's bs, neither to the Russia Gate bs, but to all the efforts to oppress voters, especially in inner-party-votes)
@@miguelcrusoe7019 what oppression of voters??
@@miguelcrusoe7019 what oppression are you babbling about?
Lack of polling stations, voter registration long before the ellection, etc. etc.
@@miguelcrusoe7019 how is that suppression and where? I live in a pretty rural location and although we only have one polling station, people manage to vote.
Weird huh? People actually have to make some type of effort to elect the leader of the free world...
Will the celebrities pool their money together and gift it to the people?
Better yet, open up their mansions to skid row vagrants. Let them come face to face with the way they're telling us how we should live.
No the people pool their money and give it to the celebrities
@@joelellis7035 I'm always amazed how the liberals never follow their own words. Ever. I mean, ok I get it if you have different and misguided political and economic views but damn why you expect others to do if you won't do it youselves?? And play the victim and always blame others?
You know the answer but you made a solid point.
Hollywood lobbied Gov Newsome and got special carve outs for continuing their industry under Covid while others suffered.
"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it". - Thomas Sowell
I Love me some Sowell
I could provide the opposite quote from an equally misinformed individual.
@@userhome3601 "Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." -Alexis de Tocqueville
@@userhome3601 Socialism cannot work because of the inequality amongst people. People have varying degrees of ambition ranging from a Trump/Elon Musk type all the way down to a welfare queen living in her slum. There are all sorts of ambition levels in-between those 2 extremes. Resentment builds in the people who have any form of ambition and the socialist system inevitably collapses. That's why the USSR collapsed in 1991 and transformed into the capitalist democracy of Russia. It was due to the bitter resentment of economic "equality". Anyone who had more ambition than a welfare queen wanted more out of life. I was a tourist in the USSR the day it collapsed. That was the common complaint. They wanted more out of life than being locked into servitude for others.
your're thinking of Communism sweety
"And the trees were all kept equal by hatchet, axe and saw". As a teenager I realized what they meant. Bad thing is that so many would be happy if everyone was as miserable as them.
And the leftist hated Neil Peart for thinking such thoughts.
@@stevegraham2535 RIP, Neil Peart.
Putting the word " Democratic" in front of anything doesn't make it good
Including the word voter.
@@robedmund9948 especially..
Political democracy, is nothing more than tyranny imposed by 50%+1. Anything less than 100% voluntary action, is as unethical as a dictatorship. In practice though, republics tend to be less miserable, but political democracy is still fundamentally evil, not fundamentally good.
@@eventhisidistaken So you're anti-democratic then. Okay.
@@bessermt I'm anti-preemptive-force, so that includes political democracy. You're oversimplifying in a purposefully stupid way.
Socialism - 99% getting equally poor, while 1% is getting extremely rich.
Precisely what is happening in America today. Scary huh?
@@mecanwinmac2796 correct, at least since de-regulations of late 198*
Genius statement 👏
@@alexpeer2 The US is less capitalist than Scandinavian countries lmao. Look at the business tax and burden of regulations. Extreme capitalism is closer to Switzerland or HK, some of the best countries in the world. You are just repeating statements you've been told, that have no root in reality.
@@alexpeer2 The idea that the US has way less regulations is the illusion, bud. You know literally nothing.
Stossel is one of the few people I still have respect for in media. I might not agree with him all the time, but he is honest and actually does journalism, which is unheard of these days .
Your first sentence comes off all wrong
@@srmatte1 that should solve any confusion
He is the only person I know who doesn't try to be politically correct in the field of journalism
Respect to this Noble Man from India,
A socialist country
He does Journalism by drawing parallels between socialism, which is an economic system and fascism, which is a social system LOL. He perpetually misguides people.
@@dhyanesh5968 India is a socialist country? Are means of Production of capital goods owned by the government or society? I guess not.
No dictator ever gathered their following with a platform of "I'm going to make things worse for everyone" lol.
What did socialists use before candels?
Answer: electricity
What will bosses do without maids, gardeners and pool boys? Like like ordinary people instead of kings.
@@kimobrien. Robots. Menial jobs will be replaced with droids, why pay a person 15 an hour when it costs $15 a day in power to run a roomba with cup holders?
@@amihere383 Who's going to buy all the trinkets you meatheads dream up when nobody has any money wages to buy them? How fast can you type on a keyboard?
@@kimobrien. When production costs approach nothing, not as much money will be needed to buy anything. Then we can simply not give anything to socialists for the fun of it.
@@MilwaukeeF40C We are a movement and you've never gotten very far with your secret police, your discriminatory blacklisting and your firing. We keep defeating you starting with the 1940 Minneapolis trial. We lost to Stalin and Hitler but only temporarily. See we are born without fear of the ruling class. We know how to push back. In the 1930's GM was the largest company in the world they signed a union contract after a successful sit down strike.
John Stossel has only one major flaw.......he’s TOO good. Go John!
One flaw: not running for president
wasn't he a never trumper?
@@frankyflowers some of us had our doubts. We came around.
@@plasma. for sure!
@sabbath maidenfan I do worry
I think that many confuse "socialism" and "a capitalist society with a welfare system". They want free healthcare and education, not collectively owned factories.
Most self proclaimed socialist think this way. But if you say government should control the economy they'd also agree.
You'd be surprised and disgusted by how many actually support textbook socialism
If you ask most socialists, that’s absolutely what they want. They’ll say “workers should decide” which means the workers run the company.
You're exactly right. However, a US politician running on creating an even bigger welfare state than we have now would have trouble getting votes. If you dress it up as _democratic_ socialism, you can fool enough people into voting for you.
@@Chuck1Norris the problem is any decently sized company can't run if everyone gets to decide on decision. Economic responsibilities are spread out so much, no one has a direct stake in their descions. Not saying people shouldn't try doing so, it's a free market. Small business can run this way. But anything more then a dozen employees would make it extremely inefficient. Which is why it always turns into the state dictating the allocation of resources, price control etc. Which brings authoritarianism and stills not efficient.
I never understood how giving the government sole control of the economy is somehow "power to the people".
John Stossel is a man of reason.
Democratic socialist states are heaven for corrupt politicians.
take a look at srilanka one of the poorest countries
@@adam360 yeah becaue there is no corruption in the US going on
@@Florian-9-9 Yes because we're suffering from early onset Socialism in the US
Can John Stossel be my dad please?
I wish Stossel can be president right now smh
You are completely right! I'm from Denmark and I hate when young Americans use my country as an "example of good socialism". They know nothing about our system. As our (now former) Prime Minister said we're not a socialist country. I pay 40% in taxes yes. But I can use the remaining 60% as I want.
Thank you, Mikkel!!!
You are the chosen one.
My only beef is that I don’t want a government that doesn’t know me or care about me to use the first 40% for what will very likely be something I disagree with.
@@derkatwork33 valid beef
@@derkatwork33 Wasn't our country (USA) founded on "No taxation without representation"?
I remember seeing John stossel videos in school a long time ago. Thank you for being a true patriot
What's crazy is that at the socialist convention literally everything they were complaining about was government. i.e. socialism.
Almost all of the corruption in government is due to socialist policies and the corruption, waste & graft they draw like a magnet. Without socialist ideas in government there is very little to abuse, because socialism is the main method of infiltrating and taking advantage of the public coffers. That's where all the money/rewards come from in government corruption: bilking the citizens out of money in the name of socialist policies, sharing the 'burdens of the collective', etc. Nothing is easier to embezzle than money that belongs to no one in particular. THAT, is the basic problem with government: it inevitably draws in socialistic interests, collects funding from citizens for that purpose, and then has money for the taking -whoever is the most clever manipulator, gets it.
"Democratic socialism is your kids' public school"
Being homeschooled doesn't seem so bad now does it?
Being in the auction in Taken doesn't seem so bad.
I'm glad I was homeschooled otherwise I'd have a higher chance of eating out of the dog shit bag that is "socialism." If it's so great, why did they build walls around it and people died trying to escape??! Their blusters are so XDXDXD
That's exactly what they want. They want you to take your conservative kids and stop bothering them so they can take over.
So, uh, I'm a licensed educator. I have a degree in secondary language arts (high school English). I heartily disagree with the original post. Home School never looked bad. Five years in college for education and three years in public schools as a teacher convinced me to home school my kids from day one. My daughter is starting seventh grade, and my son is going into second. Home schooling all the way. No regrets, and no plans to change. This year for physical education my daughter is learning how to shoot...better. She's been doing that in gym class since she was big enough to pull a trigger. She has no idea how to play volleyball though, or give control of her life to the government. Oops, I knew I forgot something in the curriculum.
@@Great_Wall_of_Text I think it’s like a dog whistle / buzzed word whenever they say that but it’s an easy got ya tbh low hanging fruit ig
"Socialism is the same as Communism only better English." [George Bernard Shaw]
Nope. Socialism is simply organized society. Communism is a scam posing as socialism dreamed up by an alien tribe to enslave nations. They intentionally confuse the two because they know communism has gotten a bad name. This ensures that we will abhor the idea of collectivizing or working towards a common good.
Socialism is just what modern communists call communism...
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 The Dichotomy between communism and capitalism is as phony as the feud between Fox News and CNN or Democrats and Republicans. The terms have been confused because both sides are controlled by the same people. No matter which one we choose they win and we lose.
@Adam Lee You are so close in your analysis but you are missing a critical factor.
@Adam Lee Capitalism is designed to create hostility in the masses and incite communist insurrection. Marx didn't actually hate capitalism. He saw it as a tool to achieve his communist utopia. Actually, Marx didn't care about communism or capitalism. He only saw them as tools. Phony ideologies whose purpose was to enslave all of humanity to his tribe.
The fact the guy from Denmark came here to say Denmark isn’t socialist is hilarious
Well, it technically isn't, it's a social democracy, which falls under capitalism, but it is a lot closer to socialism than most other countries.
@@imjustandromeda isn’t it a way of national socialism kinda?
It is ironic that when people complain about the "evils of capitalism" they are frequently complaining about the few aspects of our system that are actually socialist.
When socialists look at socialist states, they see a field of manure with a rose growing in the middle of it and they say, "Look how beautiful that rose is." When they look at a capitalist state, they see a field of roses with a pile of manure in the middle of it and they say, "Look how ugly that manure is."
Both sides have problems. What about having a field with only roses? It's possiblE
Very well stated. The current "Burn It Down" BLM rhetoric will only cause murders, riots, and eventually starvation when the producers are exterminated.
@@tubeguy4066
No system on earth has only roses. All humans are imperfect and only a fool can expect a Utopian society to be built by imperfect beings. All our societies are imperfect and there's no changing that no matter what you do.
@@tubeguy4066 I believe strongly that it is not possible. There cannot be a complex social system that allows only for good outcomes for every person. It is a truism of human nature that every person will make some bad decisions and that some people will make almost all bad decisions. Bad decisions lead to bad outcomes. There can't be a system which recognizes human nature in which outcomes are not dependent upon decisions.
The best that can be hoped for is a system in which each person has the liberty to realize his potential to whatever degree he is willing to achieve it, free of coercion and unjust obstruction, and to minimize the number of people who make, and the severity of, bad decisions. Such a system of liberty inherently includes the latitude to fail or act badly. Every right carries within it the slack for bad actors to misuse it. (Unfortunately, as an aside, too many people think that defending a right when it is exercised badly is the same as defending the bad action.)
So, the system for the most good outcomes, fewest bad outcomes, good outcomes of the highest expression and bad outcomes of the least harm would be built on free market capitalism, minimal republican government and personal liberty in all aspects of life. Such a system existed until January 20, 2021. Whether it exists now or will continue to exist into the future is up in the air.
@@Jerry_Fried very well said.
"Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Intelligent man.
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Yeah, just simply untrue -
Germany, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and many more, are all democratic socialist countries.
Here in NZ, we swing back and forth along the power that government has, but overall the government tends to have more power than the private sector.
That quote is just simply totally untrue.
I love it here, and I pity the blind ignorant americans that have been completely indocrinated by the propaganda they learned in school.
@@geegeetomlinson2316In your comment you make this argument that nations like Germany, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada are democratic socialist nations. This is inaccurate as even though the current leader could enact socialist leaning policies, it doesn't mean that the overall nation is socialist. Another reason as to why you're really wrong here is that these countries that you list are practically successful because of the markets. Sweden for example has a low corporate tax rate and creates wealth via markets.
@@JamesMaximum When you abolish private property then you've gone down the socialist road other wise you've just won a reform from the capitalist bosses. Private Property is the property used to exploit others rather than out right slavery the bosses become the owners of everything giving orders based upon maximizing profits for themselves. The profits come from the unpaid labor of the production workers. Its this privatization of the socially produced surplus that has such contradictory implications for production itself. Capitalism is the first system to suffer from crisis of overproduction. It also creates greedy ruling classes based in nation states who take the fight for profits onto the battlefield of world war. Markets create nothing other than to provide a place for exchange and state to arbitrate disputes among those who exchange either labor or commodities. The workers exchange their labor for a wage that must pay the cost to reproduce it for the next pay period while the bosses seek the longest hours and to pay he lowest wages such that the can sell the commodities produced for a profit. By replacing individual labor with machines and social labor the capitalist have enable a vastly superior way to produce over all past methods. All the old handicraft methods were put on trial by the cost of labor the wiiners were the loom, the steam engine and the modern factory methods.
“Democratic socialism” = the oxymoron of the century !
Ok I’ll bite. I know the video chad said that democratically voted socialists kill democracy but that doesn’t immediately make it an oxymoron. Socialism simplified is the government producing certain services and democracy simplified is people voting for representatives to do things in the government. Nothing there portrays them as an oxymoron.
Remove the oxy.
It's the opposite. Socialism is always democratic by definition. You don't have to specify that it's democratic. No democracy means no socialism. No buts, no ifs.
@@UGMD This is fundamentally wrong. Socialism is not government services. The fact that this gets conflated by both liberals and conservatives is completely confounding to me. The basic tenet of socialism is that workers control the means of production. It is an economic ideology, not a political one. Government spending is a separate, although adjacent issue. The question is, who controls manufacturing, production, entertainment, etc? Socialism says it's all workers equally. That's the goal of socialism. But no one has come up with a mechanism for how this would sustain itself. So inevitably in all socialist structures, the government takes over the position of controlling production, thus eliminating any checks and balances. As is stated in the video: once democratically elected, the people have less and less leverage to unelect socialist leaders, until they have none at all.
@@mikewilliams6025 I know socialism from Bernie Sanders and the things I see him pushing are increased government services to support working people. His means to the “socialism” end are probably clouding my definition.
Thank you John, you always show the truth and common sense that America is going through. I have always loved your pieces.
Yup. It's time we defund the Socialist Police Unions!
Idk how anyone can sit in a DMV and think we need more of this
Imagine having your phone built by the DMV instead of Apple... or getting healthcare from the DMV. Or education..
@shid The DMV is run by the federal government. Its just a metaphor
We're experiencing socialism here in the US now.
And it's going to get worse
We're experiencing "New age socialism with Chinese characteristics" where large corporations work with government to help each other stay in power / maintain monopoly
Not if we can help it. I would think Congress for the incumbent Democrats is not as safe as they may presume. I think many of them realize this or else they would not have placed barbed wire around it. They know their tyrants.
@@Nathan-jh1ho Isn't that facism?
@@grawr3534 pretty much, calling it fascism with Chinese characters would make as much scene. They just like running around spewing Marxist nonsense, while not knowing and practicing what they're saying.
This takes the cake for stupidest comment I've seen today.
More kids need to tune out their social media accounts and pay attention to these messages. Otherwise, the kids will ruin their own future.
Sadly it is not just kids but adults that believe the same like Bernie.
@@dole8001 Are those adults product of failed higher education with useless degrees and mountain of debt? Or, adults that made poor decisions all throughout their lives and blames everyone else for their failures? Or, adults that are naïve utopians? Or, adults with ulterior motive wanting the ultimate power over people? I know some of these 'adults'.
They shouldn't tune out of social media but instead explore more rather then only seeing what they have already seen
@@StosselTV That's true. But, kids are taught by social media instead of conducting their own research. Social media algorithm continues to cater to the end user's interest which could prevent them from forming their own opinions. Are there anymore free thinkers?
@@StosselTV Ty for videos. Explaining the arguments for capitalism is also very important, and you’ve done this, too. The Sandy Springs and Tragedy of the Commons were so important. Please consider looking into something that I discovered around age 40, which no one seems to know: Robin Hood was basically in law enforcement. He stopped thieves and returned stolen property. The original movie with Errol Flynn presented this clearly.
No such thing as equality. We can’t even get to fairness at this point
Democratic Socialism: Higher taxes and more inefficient government systems, amiright?
Youamright.
You be right ....
Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil (previously with Lula), Bolivia and now the next on the list Ecuador.
Latin America is always the guinea pig for those kind of stuff specially Socialism and Democratic Socialism.
Socialism is nothing more than slavery for the people who produce value to forcibly share with the lazy, who produce nothing.
@@justdriftingthroughlife9378 Basically all those people who still asking for social plans and money for the government even though is made out of their own taxes and specially by the people who are working their asses to make a decent buck.
“Tell me about any country or nation, past or present, that does not have elites running it who have more rights, power, property, benefits, wealth, and services than the common people. Therefore, the right question is under which system have the common people enjoyed the greatest prosperity since all systems have the same elites at the top who profess different slogans to exploit the common people.” -Kevin Everett FitzMaurice
This is fantastic. I've had thoughts along these lines, but never so clearly and concisely expressed. I will have to use this next time I'm debating with a good friend of mine who is very left leaning. Thank you for sharing good sir.
@@ElijahRedd1 Thank you for your kind words. Feel free to share the quotation wherever you want and to share the ideas with whomever you like. Peace
"When no source has quite said what you want to express, the only choice left is to quote oneself."
-Georges Prat
You're 100% on point. The more we try to stay away from Feudalism, the most likely we will stumble upon it again.
@@DonVigaDeFierro Yes, and yours is a brilliant observation. You will love this quotation. Feel free to use it. “I believe it safe to say that all progress must lead, not to further progress, but finally to the negation of progress, a return to the point of departure.” -Eugène Delacroix
I think its funny that many on the left say "stop calling us socialists! Were not even socialists!"
But then point to Scandinavia as an example of being socialist
"It's ridiculous people on the right call us socialist when we just want socialized healthcare, massive wealthfare state and more government control over the economy"
"The post office is socialism being tried in America"
@@Nathan-jh1ho ah yes, we should have the post office be in charge of our healthcare, whoever suggested that must be a genius! HAHA
Good point.
An old black man once told me that there is no difference to Communism or fascism because each one can lead to the other and now I believe it.
Thou hath blessed us with thy grace with a new upload.
lol
Thou hast yoted weak yeet, and thereof committed false yeethery.
Thou canst only be blessed by Him who hath yote the universe.
Thou single hope lies in the kind loving grace of the one true God.
Yeet on young man and do not ye yeet recieveth.
@@JGizzardofOz Understood.
Amen brother 🙏
@@bankerduck4925 😂 how?
See! You are blessed with the gift of wisdom!
I don't know what I was talking about 🤣
Except the God part.
It's true.
"They protest in Nikes, and tweet about it from their iPhones."
They complain with full bellies and easy access to grocery stores filled with food.
Yep
According to Bernie Sanders Walmart pays "starvation wages", even though you can buy four loafs of bread with an hour of minimum wage labor.
Bernie "bread lines are a good thing" has never had to be in one.
@@Dennis-nc3vw what kind of argument was that. After paying the costs to maintain a roof over your head, a car, insurance and all that you’re literally left with a starvation wage. Your wages shouldn’t just be meant to cover the cost of merely existing.
@@Zhicano And they aren’t meant to. If you’re making minimum wage and older than say 25 then you have made some really bad life choices and shouldn’t be able to force your employer to pay you more. What if you’re not worth more an hour?
"resources should be allocated to those who need them."
who gets to allocate those resources? therein lies the problem...
Who determines the need. Exactly. We saw that with Obama and talking about Grandma's pacemaker.
Precisely. Same as the noble idea of feeding the world's hungry - making the food isn't the problem, it is getting it to the people that need it most.
Exactly. They say "each according to their needs and abilities" when talking about socialism, but WHO gets to decide what are other peoples needs and abilitites? The government perhaps, that is already tyrannical now.
"From each according to his ability. To each according to his need." This sounds like a great philosophy. The problem is that in order to make those determinations, you must have intimate knowledge of the abilities and needs of each. That can only be had in a family or a very small group. Once you get above that number, it becomes "From each according to _what_ _the_ _committee_ _has_ _determined_ _is_ his ability. To each according to _what_ _the_ _committee_ _has_ _determined_ _is_ his need."
and who decided who "needs" it more?
A worker doesn't want to control the means of production.
A worker wants to clock off and drink a beer watching the Simpson's.
And workers won't control the means of production, the party does same as always. They really think they're part of something but they're just stepping stones used by people with more charisma and better lying skills using the dream of a guy that never held down a job. Communists, socialists whatever they want to call themselves will keep doing this to people for as long as they can keep their mistakes out of the public's mouths with that wasn't real socialism or communism.
And in a free market economy, he CHOOSES where he works and accepts the compensation and working conditions, and when he's on his own time, what he spends his wages on. He CHOOSES what beer to drink as long as he can afford it, and whatever entertainment he avails himself of. If that's parking it on the couch in front of the boob tube and watching the Simpsons, that's his own care.
The key concept is: CHOICE.
@@selfdo that's precisely the crux of the matter
@@selfdo Yes, he "accepts" the compensation he gets or he complains and gets fired, so now he can't afford anything.
@@selfdo Also, he barely "chooses" what to spend because there is a literal industry (advertising) designed to try to make people buy stuff; why don't they just let the consumers look at all the options carefully instead of just listening to the ad slogans?
Repeat with me
*KINGDOM* of sweden
*KINGDOM* Of Denmark
*KINGDOM* of Norway
*NOT SOCIALIST!*
Yeah, they're Social Democratic.
@@fds7476 no they aren't.
@@dudleyhaines9826
Yes, they are.
Look up social democracy.
Hint: Most socialists dont consider it socialist.
REPUBLIC of yugoslavia. REPUBLIC of China.... I swear, I cannot. You people need to read some Marx. Just because it says a kingdom doesn't tell anything about their economic system. Most kingdoms were feudalist!
@@fds7476 Last time I checked, the Scandinavian countries were scaling back their social programs as they were unsustainable. Social programs does not equal true socialism as Bernie and AOC want.
stossel's out here fighting the good fight. i wish people could be won over with reason but every time i look around i become more convinced that things wont work as nicely.
Every 3rd generation....wastes it all.
"No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude."
-Karl Popper
Rule #1: Don't Hurt People. Rule #2: Don't Steal Their Stuff
Basically, the constitution should just be the Ten Commandments.
@@ledzeppelin1212 And then the US would be in even a bigger mess than it is now!
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp you do realize that every single western country's legal system is based on the ten commandments, right?
Rule #3, ignore rules 1 and 2 and call it 'government'. Then brainwash the masses that rules 1 and 2 only apply to them.
@@aidenaune7008 They really are not. Only 3 of the commandments make any sense at all to encode to into a legal system. Where are the laws against coveting in western legal systems? What about having no other gods, where's that one? Even adultery is not generally illegal in western nations. In some places, you might be open to civil suits for it, and it may play a role in divorces, but that's it.
One of my favorite jokes is "Why did Stalin hate Hitler? Because Hitler actually fed his people."
I can't help but notice that CHAZ was "Democratic Socialism." How'd that fuckin' work out?
@@alexpeer2 go cry somewhere else you socialist, your literally on every comment in this video lol
@@alexpeer2 If you can't compete with the big boys, just say so.
@@alexpeer2 AMERICA!!! Love it, or get the fcuk out.
Cardboard fertilizer.
@@alexpeer2 you need to be more realistic, it would be impossible for the government to afford all those social programs. Not to metion the fact, it would be giving the government more power then it needs.
I recently came across a very interesting book, called 'Socialism: The Failed Idea That Never Dies', written by Kristian Niemietz.
He meticulously dissects many attempted implementations of socialism, how and why they failed and what the outcome was.
He also dedicates many pages to the methods socialists use to spin the narrative and shift the blame away from their bogus ideology, once the s**t hits the fan.
It's an easy, yet inspiring read that contains a myriad of arguments, which might be suited to rhetorically arm everyone watching you.
That's a cool story. Now you should read Karl Marx's "Capital" and understand what socialism is really about. Because if you knew what socialism really is, then you would understand that socialism hasn't failed at all and exists right in the heart of America through the many worker cooperatives that have existed for years. Maybe you've been getting spoon fed a narrative all along and have missed the facts. 🤷♂️
@@Hunterchuck Wow, I didn't know people as challenged as you are allowed to roam free.
But I've got to admit, 'Everything is socialism!" is something new, 'Real socialism has never been tried!' was getting old anyway.
Let me make it clear: Unions and interest groups aren't socialism, taxes aren't socialism and welfare and caring for people in need isn't Socialism as well. Heck, even state organized health insurance isn't socialism, as long as it's implementation is reasonable.
What is socialism is: Stealing everything from the people with merit and consuming it until nothing is left, crippling the economy with dumb policies and enslaving the people, leading to 100'000'000+ dead, many more poor or starving and ruined Nations, such as the former USSR, Mao's China, Cuba, North Korea, East Germany, Venezuela, California etc.
Marx outlined interesting ideas in 'Das Kapital', he even had a pretty good grasp on the capitalism of the 19th century, but his conclusions were just plain bullshit, today more than ever. He might have had somewhat of a point in 1867, when all workers were unskilled and had to slave away in a factory for 12+ hours a day. Nowadays, this has been made obsolete by automation and it has become clear, that all the means of production are worthless without educated people operating them. People with merit have total freedom to negotiate their pay on the free market, even more so since the information age has enabled everyone to acquire any information basically for free.
Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economical system than ever before. A poor person today lives better than the upper middle class 100 years ago. That's because it functions similar to evolution: Free markets reward productive and efficient ideas and punish those that aren't. If your plans in life don't work out or seem too hard to achieve, live with it or try something else. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE EARNED FOR THEMSELVES!
@@dh510 That 100 million number has been proven false times and times again. Even 2 of the 3 writers talked about how the 3rd person litterally counted people who weren't born, nazi soldiers, civil wars, 2nd world war, or just millions added here and there.
Also capitalism is not a meritocracy, if your family has connections, money, power, it is infinitely easier to get a job, create a business, ... And if you keep this going you will see richer people getting richer as they already have money to start something and poor people get poorer. If capitalism rewards efficency and innovation, why most of the technology you use today has been created by governments(gps, satellites, computers, internet, ...) businesses take what has already been created and spin it around to call it a product.
A tendency of capitalism as it is a competitive system, creates winners and losers, the losers go bankrupt and the winners take the market. I know that monopolies are impossible as they need external help, but a lot of companies have monopolistic powers even without being an actual monopoly (buying competitors, merging, and cartels to ensure no competition between companies).
People most often than not, have no say on their pay, work hours or they will one way or another get replaced, this is also why unemployment is good to capitalist, more people are desperate for a job, more likely they will accept no matter the cost.
Capitalism hasn't made any particular nation richer, why you always look at good capitalist exemples and bad socialist exemples and not the other way around? Can you explain to me why Ethiopia, South Africa, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Burkina Faso, Chad, Pakistan, Indonesia, ... aren't doing well? It's actually socialist reforms that made these countries at the very least less miserable. Look at Thomas Sankara in Burkina Faso, Allende in chile, Mossadegh in Iran, Castro in Cuba, and others how they improved materially the life of countless people. I hope you can at least reconsider what you are saying
@@Hunterchuck Marx's ideas didn't work at all in the USSR. Why do you think that the USSR was overthrown in 1991 by a revolution and replaced with the capitalist democracy of Russia??? Socialism has NEVER worked throughout human history. The pilgrims tried it and it failed. It was tried in the 16th century British colony of Jamestown in what's now Virginia. It failed. People are not equal. You are not equal to Elon Musk, for example, who has much more drive and ambition. You are not equal to Trump, Gates, Buffett, etc for the exact same reason. People with ambition are not satisfied with handouts, sponging off the system and living off the system like a 2 year old dependent child. That's why socialism inevitably fails
@@pollypurree1834 What on earth did I just read? LMAO!
"The USSR was overthrown in 1991" - No, it was dissolved by Gorbachev to destabilize Communist control of the government. This led to the collapse of the Soviet Union, at least in name since the country did not change at all. Not even the Soviet revolution changed anything about the country other than what they started calling themselves, but the economic system remained in control of the government. This is called a command economy in economics.
"Socialism has NEVER worked throughout human history."
- Wrong again even by your own definition of socialism. North Korea, China, and many other so-called communist/socialist nations are still in existence with the same USSR formula.
If we use Karl Marx's definition of socialism then it can be seen in the thousands of worker cooperatives around the world.
So essentially you are just wrong on all accounts. Better luck next time I guess
If you dislike Stossel, you are rejecting reality.
That's on you.
I'm a kulak.
@Jefe Anson not one person can explain it to the ones who are deluded with the propaganda.
They're absolutely religiously committed regardless of easy to explain facts. No one.
@Jefe Anson Alright, then you give a stab at the definition. I'm a political philosopher btw; there is a right answer here. Have a go.
@Jefe Anson they should chant before attacking.. wait, oops.
So what do you grow?
You're not much of a logician, are you? You see, there's other logically consistent options. You could agree with Stossel (which, according to what you're implying, means you're in touch with reality) but still dislike him, for example.
I've worked as an Engineer in Manufacturing for over 40 years and was amazed at how much training employees, managers and myself were required to take. Our Politicians need training......reality training......everyone in Congress or the Senate or any other important job should have to spend time with Police, the Fire Dept, working in a Federal Prison and at the Boarder!
Yuri Bezmenov: you can show them all the proof in the world, even take them to a gulag in Russia and they still wont believe you.
True, only way they will learn is the hard way. If west becomes socialist i am moving to Russia, they at least know what socialism means and won`t fall for that crap anytime soon.
@@aleksejjovanovic986 Hopefully you're not of fighting age.
@@seanwickham8905 I am and it has crossed my mind if you want to know.
@Rabbi Eladio Imenezshtien Not only Christians but also Slavic pagans (Rodnovery), Buddhists and Muslims. For reds we are all trash that has to get neutrilized.
Just like showing people real, true facts about covid and vaccines, they don't want to hear it.
I'll forward this and part 1 to my niece for her birthday tomorrow. A few months ago, I shuddered when she said, "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would make a great president." Thanks John Stossel and team! One of a few voices of reason in a sea of nonsense.
This is common sense for people who were taught history rather than transgender pride.
Yes.
"transgender pride" lmao
And, this is common sense for people who actually suffered under a hellish socialism country like me.
@@cmlee58 fr
@@izdatbOi ???
“Exactly what is your fair share of what I have earned” - Thomas Sowell.
That's not at all what democratic socialism is about, idiot.
That's Marxism.
Stop confusing the two.
I live in New Zealand, a country that swings towards giving the Public sector more power than the Private sector (higher taxes, more centralized power and regulation of business - aka democratic socialism.)
We are NOT communist - we are socialist. We have a free market, but also have many publicly owned enterprises.
I pay for services that feed back into my own life - services that at some point, I am likely to need.
Healthcare, schooling and transport primarily - i have zero issue with my tax dollars going towards these initiatives that help others.
So yeah, you and John have a fundamental misunderstanding of democratic socialism and you can both go to hell.
3 quarters of what you earned because you are a conservative libertarian fascist white supremacist racist nazi. -socialist
Everything you own will be OUR(states) fair share for the good, and in the favor of the common people and for all of US the working people(state). - Communism
The best part about these videos is coming to read the comment section. I really enjoy the people defending socialism/etc.
It’s because they been proven wrong and like this video speak so much facts there pressed like literally Bernie sanders the man who started socialist democracy had the prime minister of Denmark say that Denmark Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia was far from socialist and that they were a free market economy based on capitalism Bernie must have cried his eyes out when he saw that happen😂
5:04 "In the last 20 years, we've seen more humans escape extreme poverty than any other time in human history, and that's because of markets."
Amen. I wish THIS was taught in schools.
@shid I know this is an old post, but have you lost your mind. China REPORTS 0% poverty. Venezuela can't feed its people. Most long-term homeless Americans CHOOSE that lifestyle, the rest suffer from various mental illnesses and will not accept the help they need. In America, you can buy a house away from the large cities for a reasonable amount. I bought two on a less-than-average wage.
@shid I choose not to believe in communist propaganda. Unlike you, apparently.
Stossel is one of the best break down journalists on youtube. Some of these quick breakdowns are some of the best arsenal to bad arguments i've ever heard.
Agreed
I find stossel an intriguing character, would love to have a chat. His interaction with s. Crowder was interesting
These are great! Keep producing this content. I want to use it in the classroom.
Go to Florida and ask people from Cuba what socialism is.
Exactly.
Correct, I have been to Cuba and have been in China as well. I have seen the way they live, what they have, what they don't have and the level of un-content. You don't see people fleeing to either country for a reason. Wake up basement kids. Go get a job.
@@jett7499 the problem isn't always they don't have jobs ect many of the Socialist pushers came from decent income families. It's their lack of thinking how the system they think would be utopian will end like many other Socialism trials where the Socialist State oppresses the people when it starts to show it doesn't work.
Are they Democrats, though?
Sometimes, but not always. Most are like a Marco Rubio.
i think Chavez was more democratically elected than Sleepy Joe. Although, who knows, they both had Dominion
Well, you are right. At least chavez had place to vote where they officially was and not in the middle of highway or bottom of the sea like emperor joe.
These videos should be played in the public schools and colleges as mandatory learning.
That’s something an authoritarian socialist country would do. Just let them grow out of it on their own.
@@kabar7929 it's not "authoritarian" to educate/inform people. It's what every parent is obligated to do for their own children. If they have a shred of decency in them. Most people won't grow up well adjusted, smart or wise by being left to figure everything out for themselves. They will have ruined their lives before even getting started.
The French revolutionaries and communist tyrants used the same vocabulary while erecting the scaffold and filling the gulags.
To me, a socialist is just someone that doesn't want the responsibility for their own life/decisions.
....which is the majority of canadians
That's fairly accurate.
Ah, the dreaded R-word...
@@almy75 isn't Canada a social democracy?
In all the recent "human rights" movements of the last century, not a single 1 of them EVER mentioned responsibility for the group it fought for.
Does anyone else feel like they are a lone fire fighter struggling to extinguish a blaze that threatens the entire wood built town, asking others to help, but most do nothing and those that act are air dropping napalm?
Unfortunately yes. My business can't take much more of this shit, pretty soon the only companies left will be big corporations subsidized by the government
poor syrian interviewed in sweden: "my phone is now a smart phone but nothing else changed for me"
I'd like to watch/read that interview if you've got a link.
Source?
I think they should start paying socialist actors as though they lived in a socialist country.
Let's have a look: Fascism and socialism are both collectivism and therefore they can be compared.
To me, it seems americans are so scared of the word socialism they cannot even think of a situation in which both can be useful. Depending on the situation and the country, I think socialism and capitalism can be combined to achieve the best society.
Here's a question I rarely get an answer to: A spectrum is a device for measuring something from one extreme to the other. On a political spectrum that puts communists on the left, fascists on the right, and US political parties in the middle, what exactly is being measured?
It is unfair to say national socialism is socicialism as normally defined. Especially the ultra anti-semitism and ultra-nationlism. Though fascism has strong roots in scoiclism, originating from the Jacobins and other radicals in the French revolution. Mussolini was a socialiat. Fascist mainly splitted over nationalist/cultural views. Both are highly collectivist ideologies that by definition needs authotrianism. Fascist also promote state economic control. They differ on rather it's for the common good of "humanity" or the "nation". That's how you can have a socialist state like China turn into effectively a fascist state without much changes.
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Answer: nothing. Putting the fascists ( = National socialism ) on the right side of the spectrum is a joke.
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The problem with socialism is that we are applying it to the wrong species. Humans are naturally capitalistic purely because we are built to survive. That doesn't mean we're not generous or caring, just that we want what is best for us and our "tribe" over all others. Actually sit most of these socialist believers down and hold them to socialist standards,. They'll change their tune real quick.
Marxist: "the Nazi's were evil!"
Me: "don't you mean the National SOCIALISTS?"
Hegel's children.
@@Echo5427_ Do you have a point?
@@Echo5427_ First thing the Soviets did after WWII was slaughter socialists after broadcasted show trials and use Nazi collaborators to form their puppet governments. Do you really believe the persecution of rivals is significantly meaningful?
@@Echo5427_ Makes sense to me. How does hating communism make you not a socialist?
@@Echo5427_ lol
i can't see danny devito the same way after watching this
I know...very disappointing.
We are seeing this play out right now in Canada and Australia. In both countries the government is ignoring the law in the name of public safety. The citizens have no rights except for the rights that the government allows.
“Allocating resources to people who need them”-well, start sharing YOUR resources with them!
Be the example!
Not a chance!
She is paraphrasing Marx. "To each according to need, from each according to need".
That’s what a lot of people don’t get. No reasonable human will pay so that a mentally unstable teen chops his dick off, or so that universities keep spewing out idiots with degrees in gender studies
@@thingfish000 yes, and who gets to determine what is a “need”🤔
Take any billionnaire and ask them to share.
Jhon, never stop being unbiased and exposing all angles of government. You are one of the last reporters like that out there.
The irony of selling books at a socialist convention
There’s no irony in it. Selling and buying goods isn’t exclusive to capitalism.
@NS I I’m not ideologically against selling your own work. It’s your labor you’re entitled to gain from it. What communists like me don’t like is how people profit off your labor and time. Taking from you something that they had no part in producing. Without the worker nothing would be created no service, no product. Workers are the only people that can create something with value. We’re given a set wage, high rent prices, high food costs, and high insurance costs because capitalists benefit from the workers labor. It’s how they get their profits in the first place. Not in a product they sell but from the work you and I do. Because like I said we can create things that have value.
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@@Zhicano Correct, however under socialism, the book belongs to society as a whole, and not just any one individual. So in selling it, wouldn't you be forced to split any profits between all stakeholders?
Let's say the book sold at a highly inflated rate of $100 at the aforementioned event. Distributing proceeds amongst the entire US population (splitting it roughly 335M ways) would yield a net profit of 1/100,000 of a single cent.
Under a capitalist model, the book would likely sell for a fraction of the cost and the author and publisher would be the only people that profit from its sale. And rightfully so, since no one else who would otherwise profit from it contributed it its production
I find it hilarious that people point to the public schools as a socialist success and thirty seconds later complain about our terrible school performance.
We just need to throw more money at it don't you know? I find it hilarious that the same people who complain that we spend more per capita on health care than any other industrialized country while getting worse outcomes and want us to completely revamp our healthcare system because of that are the same people who refuse to consider any change to our education system despite spending more per capita than any other nation while getting worse outcomes.
Thank you, John, for all your work exposing as much of the truth as you can. I know that none of us has all of the truth, but as all of us have part of it, it is good to share what we have. You do an excellent job of making it lively and interesting. (I loved the one you did on panhandling, especially the "Out of Beer" sign.)
Great series, keep it up John, been watching you for decades!
Berni always says he wants socialism like Denmark and Sweden, but his policies are those of Venezuela.
"If government was in charge of the Sahara Desert there would be a shortage of sand". Thomas Sowell
That is actually a quote from Milton Friedman.
That guy at the front of the parade shouting "this is class war, eat the rich and feed the poor" could do with giving some of his food to the poor.
I wish all journalists were like this guy
I don't, I like it when journalists base their work on evidence.
@@Tattikanava why do u think he doesn't have evidence?
Whats the one thing that's NEVER free in any socialist society...YOU
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
-Socialism
That's if you believe that "good intentions" had anything to do with socialism. I suspect "rape them, murder them and take everything they got" was a common intention.
@@johnsharpe6411 that sounds like it's at the hell stage.
"The goal of Socialism is Communism"
-Vladimir Lenin
We need to update that quote: "The read to hell is paved with willful blindness."
100 years ago the "good intentions" excuse could fly. Not anymore.
Democrats: Free healthcare!
National Socialist German Workers Party: Free healthcare!
Me: huh.
They also were the first to implement a grand highway system (Autobahn) in Germany. The USA did the same thing after them. Are they nazis now?
I get it, who doesn’t want free stuff? Thing is, eventually the free stuff runs out. Also, I tend to respect things that I’ve earned as opposed to given. It feels good to finally get something that I’ve saved up for. “I’m from the government and I’m here to help”.....uh huh.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually, you run out of other people's money."
- Margaret Thatcher
Stop using those free roads, stop flushing your toilets into those free sewers, stop calling that free 911 service when you need help, stop expecting your employees to know how to read from those free schools, stop enjoying all the free stuff then. Buy your own military to make sure you don't get bombed while you're at it.
@@0trynewthings0 First off capitalism works because its competitive and I can't even begin to imagine when competing sewer systems or roads would look like. Second if you get an education or use a road you pay it forward to society, because it would be a lot harder for companies to find productive laborers without these things. Same thing with police and military (no one would have a motive to be productive if criminals could just come and steal their stuff). Socialism totally ignores the idea of whether their programs "pay it forward" and just enables people to be parasites in the name of compassion. The result is decreased motivation to work, which leads to a smaller pool of wealth, which leads to decreased value of money, which leads to more wealth being extracted to achieve the same ends, which further decreases motivation to work, etc.
@@Dennis-nc3vw People in this country want 1. healthcare, 2. education, 3. taxing of the super-rich to reduce the wealth gap, 4. money out of politics so leaders can't be bribed. NO ONE, I repeat, no one, ever asked for everything to be government-owned and free. That's just idiots trying to demonize the word socialism so that the super-rich can keep getting richer while the middle class is replaced with minimum wage and part-time slave workers.
@@0trynewthings0 ....what’s the problem with someone being super rich? MOST of these people earned it. They risked everything for a large reward. I think having billions is crazy, but it’s their money. They also invest fortunes into other companies which in turn employs many people. Everyone has the ability to move past minimum wage.
1:30 “Democratic socialism is your kids’ public school.” Said w such sincerity, it’s terrifying. Suddenly I’m not so unhappy about not having children, instead sticking with Irish Setters and Goldens. I could see home schooling as a viable alternative, as difficult as it must be for parents.
"The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money". -Margaret Thatcher
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Winston Churchill
Usa cough cough 28 trillion dollar debt
How so lmaooo this makes no sense
@@grannydwarf Exactly!
@@uberraschtedame1510 i was dissing capitalism
Problem is that just like wearing a mask and socially distancing, people will follow these politicians...I blame the education institutions and the role of government on how they make the decisions and what our children should learn...
That was absolutely how these tyrant crook traitor politicians and govt thug employees got the rediculous thought that this could ever work going..
And don't forget the media, they also play a role with following government propaganda shoved down your throat, you know, the state controlled media
In a perfect world people will wear masks to prevent the spread of disease to others without the government's decision. Social distancing is pretty stupid though, especially with public transport being so prevalent. Masks are enough
@@ouya_expert That’s not a perfect world in my view. Sorry.
Dude, no offense intended, but please reread what you posted and then go look up the term 'irony' and see if you don't accidently give yourself brain damage when you facepalm.
“The capitalism the critics talks about is not the real ‘true capitalism’. The real one exists in my theory and it will bring global salvation”
@@alexpeer2 All those prefixes and euphemisms are irrelevant. Capitalism is capitalism. Anything else is idealism . It’s a system. Private ownership of the means of production and the need to constantly accumulate wealth and property is at the base of capitalism. It functions the way it’s supposed to no matter how much it negatively affects working people. Regulations are a bandaid to the system to prevent it excesses from consuming itself like it almost has time and time again during its booms and busts cycles. The US is no new guy in the development of capitalism it was there during its birthing process from feudalism. No “middle ground” is secure enough. The continued existence of a capitalist class will hinder all progress made at every turn and the process of exploitation of the global south will continue. Just look at Europe today. All positive regulations and welfare programs are gnawed at the feet by politicians at the behest of capitalists and bankers who will eventually destroy those policies as they have in the US.
@@Zhicano all socialist experiments have failed. You can say those werent "true socialism" or were state capitalism but that is always what you get after a socialist revolution. Socialism requires an authoritarian state to expropriate the businesses people have built, take the wealth people worked for, and redistribute it. I used to think socialist revolutionaries had a point, but you have to wake up! if socialism worked to improve the ceiling for the quality of life of people there would be a current socialist world power. But no, even china gave up socialism after mao for dengism with large party controlled capitalist corporations to improve their situation
@@snpandsnb1953 All socialist experiments have not failed. Cuba is still ongoing, Korea is still managing, China, Lao, and Vietnam were forced to introduce a controlled capitalism to develop its productive forces in order to allocate resources because previous attempts such as the Great Leap Forward weren’t able to efficiently industrialize the country enough to produce all the things a socialist country experiment needs to run. Socialism is a step from capitalism. It develops from the contradictions within capitalism that renders it incapable of sustaining itself. It’s a process there’s no magical “now we have socialism button”. Even the Soviet Union went through a phase in order to allocate money and materials. Countries like Bolivia, Nicaragua and Venezuela are alternative socialist projects in the making because they’ve gone the same route as Chile did in the early 70s by winning elections while creating a secondary power base of workers to defend the socialist project. This slower approach is a materialist approach for developing countries to shake off American imperialism and exploitation. The past socialist projects were besieged constantly by the US and allies. They put on embargoes, sanctions, regime change, color revolutions, coups, assassinations and mass propaganda networks to stifle any any movement that even decided to challenge American hegemony post WW2. Just look at what America did to Guatemala in the 50s for doing simple land reform that helped out peasant farmers not the United Fruit Company.
Look at the Iran Contra affair where cartels and deaths-quads were given weapons and money to attack the socialist Nicaraguan government and supporters. Look at Nixons and the CIAs involvement with the coup against the democratically elected socialist president Salvdor Allende. Even worse look up the Jakarta Method. Literally look it up. The US aided Indonesia in literally murder of 1 million leftists and used the same lessons learned on other countries with large socialist support. Hell the USA, Germany, France and the UK invaded Russian during the Russian civil war to defeat the revolution.
Socialism improved peoples lives. It increased literacy rates, decreased infant mortality rates, gave people healthcare, free education, right to work, maternity and paternity leave, subsidized housing and much more. The reason why I couldn’t maintain a quality of life similar to the west was because it lacked in its ability to produce consumer goods. Which was a big reason why people in socialist countries were attracted to the capitalist west and because the socialist states were always handicapped by capitalist countries.
@@Zhicano What I am saying is that you dont have to ban private property for "literacy rates, decreased infant mortality rates, gave people healthcare, free education, right to work, maternity and paternity leave, subsidized housing" scandinavia is social democracies and they have all these things. Nationalizing the economy is not a good way of producing a variety of consumer goods like in capitalist countries. socialists would say capitalism creates consumer goods that are unnecessary but why should the state say what I should be able to buy or want. Thats why social democracies are better atleast in western nations because they nationalize/socialize industries that are of the public good like healthcare, housing to an extent, and leave consumer goods to the market which allows for better items and variety of items for the people. Instead of having one brand of tomato sauce like in Cuba, we have dozens and the socialist rebuttal that "all these products are from the same 3 companies" is invalid because under a centralized economy, it would only be 1 product from the state allowed.
@@snpandsnb1953 wait Scandinavia? Didn’t the video say they aren’t?
Your correct. The problem is not only do so many young people don't really understand, they don't want to learn the truth. They have been successful propagandize.
"demoralized" as Yuri Bezmenov would explain it.
Yeah I love going to USPS, They are always so happy, fast and efficient! Thanks Big GOV
So true... and the DMV and their archaic green-screen system.
Thank you for making this. UA-cam is sure to take it down soon.
I applaud John Stossel for telling it like it is. He's willing to criticize both the right and the left with convincing arguments like this.
The american political stage is sooo far to the right that what you consider "left" and "socialism" is called center in most European countries.
@@barnibombosz1448 No, I acknowledge that European countries like Sweden, Denmark, and Germany aren't socialist. Even John Stossel recognizes that. Only Bernie Bros and dumb Trump supporters call social democracies socialist.
TO CLARIFY: The USPS is not funded by the government. That said, because it's the USPS it's not subject to the same risks as privet companies. Furthermore, they have a number of practices that are running it into the ground. Their promotion and job bidding system is based on seniority rather than merit. This leads to a number of poor managers who have spent many years playing the system rather than learning about the work itself. Thus, there isn't really incentive to work hard when it doesn't do much to determine how far you'll go.
Stossel taught me socialism in 5 minutes whereas school failed to teach me in 14 years.
I still haven't found a "democratic" socialist that has ever been able to explain how someone is able to vote for an outcome that is already determined for them.
It's even harder to find an actual democratic socialist country.
"This is class war, eat the rich, feed the poor!" says the comparatively rich, and objectively obese American man. He is the rich, and his fat gut could certainly feed a few families.
I adore John Stossell, but lost him so long ago. Happy to find you again!
I am an American living in China. The reason China is so rich now is because they implemented capitalism. There are very little socialist or communist qualities in this country today.