Good report. You South Africa riders seem a bit more realistic about your expectations than most of we "Yanks". I still remember the how riders talked trash about "Rice Burners" in the late 60's and 70's. I'm looking forward to owning one of the 450s.
@@jonwoodworkeroil is generic, air filter is easy to find through Kove USA or online. It shares the same part number as the KTM. Spokes, not sure, probably a common length.
Nice video, I like that you mentioned Kove has other bikes. Most people talk about them like the Rally is their first bike ever. I wish Kove comes to Mexico, importing one from the US might just about double the price. I was excited about the CFMoto 450 MT, but the weight is around 440lbs, not what I was expecting. Other rally models I've come across are -Fantic XEF Rally. Around 250lbs dry and around $16,000 usd -AJP PR7, around 360lbs wet, and $14,000 usd and coming this 2024, which might actually make it to Mexico the Keeway TX450R, around 360lbs dry, and the price might be even less than the Kove (yes this isn't a well known brand, but they've been around for a long time, and like a lot of these chinese companies, they're owned by some bigger chinese companies. Keeway is owned by QJ Motors (who own Benelli, and are partners with Harley)
The weight of the Kove 450 Rally is 145kg dry, with a 96cm seat height, it is comparable with the KTM 690 Enduro which offers 74hp, but costs 12.000euros vs 10.000euro for the Kove. I'll keep my KTM 500EXCF for adventure riding, only 108kg dry.
It would take another 3000 euros to put a rally tower, windscreen, larger tank, and better suspension and to make the KTM 690 comparable to the Kove. The Kove does not have as much power, that’s a given. This is in a different class compared to the 500. The 500 is a dirt bike with a license plate, the Kove is a rally style bike.
@@jonwoodworker what's up with these people who don't know actual facts , slates the kove a new team about finishing even though 3 finished, but didn't know about Hondas breaking down and KTM and fantics , need education
There was a time when Japanese bikes were kinda suspect quality-wise and mostly copied European design, then they started crushing it. I think this might be the beginning of the wave of serious bikes coming out of China.
To be blunt, not buying a bike made by anyone that has no right to strike, peacefuly petition their government, or even a vote for head of state. Rather walk.
how did you make this post if you dont entertain chinese products? most if not all bikes have some sort of chinese part in them not to mention cell phones, t.v.s/monitors, household appliances and so on. maybe look into the story of the guy who came up with the idea for the kove. youre not hurting the chinese governement, just a guy/company having a dream. i get what youre trying to say, not a fan of what goes on over there either.
KTM 450 Rally makes 70HP. What does the Kove proper rally bike make. 51HP is 450exc stock standard power,so no way is that rally bike a full rally engine.
The Pro version this one is derivated from, is 54hp with Titanium exhasut and a race ECU tune (and rally tower). And 3 finished the Dakar last year , and 2 this year. This standard version can be upgraded to that for 1000$ (except rally tower). So yes, it is a Dakar bike, just tuned for EPA regulations. In 2024 Kove introduced the 450 RALLy EX version of about 65hp but it is a prototype and had problems. Sometimes less power is more reliability ;)
China now is very capable of building quality bikes. In fact, if you do the research a lot of brand name parts are built there. Some completely built and assembled. The thing to remember about China is that everything is built to a price specification. Quality they can do, but it comes at increased cost. Politics aside, it's hard (if not nearly impossible unless you spend big money) to avoid buying Chinese made things as most everything is made there...
Good report. You South Africa riders seem a bit more realistic about your expectations than most of we "Yanks". I still remember the how riders talked trash about "Rice Burners" in the late 60's and 70's. I'm looking forward to owning one of the 450s.
Looking forward to the test of the Kove 800
Nice Review. I am a dealer in Colorado. We just got three bikes in one of them a rally Pro. We are very excited about the product.
I busted a few spokes and I need a oil and air filter. Do you have them in stock?
@@jonwoodworkeroil is generic, air filter is easy to find through Kove USA or online. It shares the same part number as the KTM. Spokes, not sure, probably a common length.
Sweet bike! They should try that in a rally! Oh, wait… 😂😂😂
AWESOME ! ! ! !
Nice video, I like that you mentioned Kove has other bikes. Most people talk about them like the Rally is their first bike ever.
I wish Kove comes to Mexico, importing one from the US might just about double the price.
I was excited about the CFMoto 450 MT, but the weight is around 440lbs, not what I was expecting.
Other rally models I've come across are
-Fantic XEF Rally. Around 250lbs dry and around $16,000 usd
-AJP PR7, around 360lbs wet, and $14,000 usd
and coming this 2024, which might actually make it to Mexico
the Keeway TX450R, around 360lbs dry, and the price might be even less than the Kove (yes this isn't a well known brand, but they've been around for a long time, and like a lot of these chinese companies, they're owned by some bigger chinese companies. Keeway is owned by QJ Motors (who own Benelli, and are partners with Harley)
kove are coming and coming hard - get used to it, well built bikes too
Kove will come on you my friend. Come hard and fast.
The weight of the Kove 450 Rally is 145kg dry, with a 96cm seat height, it is comparable with the KTM 690 Enduro which offers 74hp, but costs 12.000euros vs 10.000euro for the Kove. I'll keep my KTM 500EXCF for adventure riding, only 108kg dry.
It would take another 3000 euros to put a rally tower, windscreen, larger tank, and better suspension and to make the KTM 690 comparable to the Kove. The Kove does not have as much power, that’s a given. This is in a different class compared to the 500. The 500 is a dirt bike with a license plate, the Kove is a rally style bike.
Very good-looking bike. Isn't it the same 449cc engine as in the Fantic Caballero? Nick
Exactly, except this one has an upper engine made by Kove in house to be DOHC and gain approx 10hp.
@@toine0002 Thanks for that. Nick
No review of the AJP PR7? A proper 650 single rally bike...
I am buying one ....
The Kove is not 145kg with all fluids on board. It's 145kg dry. With all fluids and 30L of fuel you're at 170kg.
Yeah, Honda just fell apart at Dakar this year and barely finished. But the Kove was the real winner, 49th place is the new 1st.
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Do you know how many Honda's and ktms and fantics broke down? Do you're research 😂
@fozzy1717 Yes, less than Kove. What is up with you Kove people and the emojis?
@@jonwoodworker so how many koves broke down then? and how many ktms and Hondas as you know?
@@jonwoodworker what's up with these people who don't know actual facts , slates the kove a new team about finishing even though 3 finished, but didn't know about Hondas breaking down and KTM and fantics , need education
Plastic skid plate?
🆒😎✌️!
Dry 145Kg, with fluids it can be 180Kg
You are fortgetting about the Fantic 450 rally, €19000
There was a time when Japanese bikes were kinda suspect quality-wise and mostly copied European design, then they started crushing it. I think this might be the beginning of the wave of serious bikes coming out of China.
To be blunt, not buying a bike made by anyone that has no right to strike, peacefuly petition their government, or even a vote for head of state. Rather walk.
how did you make this post if you dont entertain chinese products? most if not all bikes have some sort of chinese part in them not to mention cell phones, t.v.s/monitors, household appliances and so on. maybe look into the story of the guy who came up with the idea for the kove. youre not hurting the chinese governement, just a guy/company having a dream. i get what youre trying to say, not a fan of what goes on over there either.
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KTM 450 Rally makes 70HP. What does the Kove proper rally bike make.
51HP is 450exc stock standard power,so no way is that rally bike a full rally engine.
The Pro version this one is derivated from, is 54hp with Titanium exhasut and a race ECU tune (and rally tower). And 3 finished the Dakar last year , and 2 this year. This standard version can be upgraded to that for 1000$ (except rally tower). So yes, it is a Dakar bike, just tuned for EPA regulations. In 2024 Kove introduced the 450 RALLy EX version of about 65hp but it is a prototype and had problems. Sometimes less power is more reliability ;)
The KTM rally is 33k
Chinese quality has definately got there .... but until they stop supporting Russia, I will not buy anything chinese.
You do realise that the phone/laptop/computer that you typed this message on, chances are it was made in China....
China now is very capable of building quality bikes. In fact, if you do the research a lot of brand name parts are built there. Some completely built and assembled. The thing to remember about China is that everything is built to a price specification. Quality they can do, but it comes at increased cost. Politics aside, it's hard (if not nearly impossible unless you spend big money) to avoid buying Chinese made things as most everything is made there...
Most Jap and European bike parts are made in china , the bikes themselves are made there or parts for the bikes are Chinese, the T7 is 99% Chinese
Agreed. Plenty of friends and allies with political systems not stuck in the qing dynasty to buy from.