Unicron is an entity, If his body is destroyed, his mind lives and he can come back, because he can not die. Another point, he can posses mechanical bodies, and through he can also reconstruct his own body. Well, in Marvel Comics, it is something like that. Sorry by bad English.
Our soul will be in a different world after our bodies died. Our soul (Us) will be judged in life after. Please seek the truth of this life because this world is full of lies.
you forgot to mention unicrons success at the universes he did devour. In the comics, he is said to have already destroyed a small but noticeable chunk of the multiverse. Also destroying unicron is the last thing you want to do since killing him in one universe will send his spark to another universe to reconstitute. This is why the matrix is used to basically put him in a catatonic state. This was all before the the retconning of multiversal singularities.
And if you managed to actually truly destroy Unicron well congratulations. Now you have to deal with a multiverse ending black hole known infamously as the unicorn singularity that only primus can close
Unicron is a deity of destruction, he exists in infinite realities yet he is just one. He cannot be destroyed, he can only be 'survived'. Unicron can wipe out realities with a whim of his thought, the only thing that keeps him at bay is the combined essence and knowledge of the 13 stored within the Matrix. Without it we all be in a limbo of unimaginable suffering. (Death is a very sound choice while facing unicron)
@@therealbnasty3719 drugs man with a infinite amount of drugs , seriously the description is ridiculous to the point might as well tell in short he cannot defeated nor die nor sleep or wht ever u want it to call
you can contain him, and just fucking seal him there for eternity. Hes the size of a fucking planet too, and eats them. Well atleast he transforms into one on the physical plane. He literally wrecked the fuck out of Cybertron in the movie as well
Just need to note that Unicron is no longer a universal singularity because during a collector's club comic story called The Shrouding which had all of the singularities in the Transformers multiverse be individual separate beings. This was done so that it allowed creators creative freedom to depict Primus, Unicron, and the Thirteen Primes however a writer wanted to depict them.
@@thevesuviuschannel9884 please provide clarification because that is just you telling me to look at war for cybertron rather than telling me why war for cybertron is any more relevant than any other instance of the franchise in regards to my inquiry/question ( please send me a wall of text, thank you).
Since multiverse is a thing in the MCU, I'd like to see different variations of celestials from other universes. While the main MCU celestials look more bionicle-like with a few exceptions like ego, maybe we could have more monstrous ones like the Dweller. This would definitely support your theory that Dweller is indeed a celestial too 😍
The conflict between celestial break the universe itself. So they literally created multiverse because of their war. They said their war tear universe apart into multiverse
This fight weighs in Unicrons favour more than I'd like to admit, and I love the Celestials. Theres only one thing in the universe that can stop him, and it only puts him in a coma, or simply displaces his mind from his body, allowing him to make a new one. The celestials might be able to create suns and life, energy and cosmic power, but Unicron literally eats all those things for breakfast, hell, Unicron hasalready eaten a noticeable portion of the multiverse in lore already. And with the abilities of resurection, matter manipulation, mind domination, true transformation, and cosmic devastation, the chances of the Celestials escaping his violent and gnashing maw are slim to none. Celestials may be gods, but Unicron is an eldritch terror, unkillable, unreasonable, and unyielding; carving a great bloody scar across reality itself, until reality is no more. You do not beat Unicron, you survive him. Edit: spelling
Well to be fair, not all Celestial fall under the same power scale some are weak and some are vastly more powerful than others. Each Celestial has varying degrees of universal matter manipulation, reality warping, and multiversal capabilities. As for dying, death for isnt the same as a typical mortal being. The physical manifestation you see in comics/movies are mere avators[shells] that are being controlled from Hyperspace where the Celestials true forms resides, and each of their true forms is side to be the size of a galaxy.
@@MajorisMons True you're right, but Unicron eats galaxies and even universes. Reality manipulation doesn't work when your enemy is eating reality faster than you can change it. They could definitely survive somehow, but they'd never win, not without the matrix of leadership.
@@Indi.go1 If I'm remembering correctly, Unicorn only ate mostly 1 universe, and the tiny pieces of that universe formed another one around him as he slept. Then it gave birth to a sentient defender "Primus", to protect it from another inevitable demise upon Unicrons awakening. Yes Unicron has the capacity to destroy a universe, but facing an entire race of Celestials that allegedly accidentally created a multiverse, wouldnt be a easy fight.. Celestials would either run experiments on him, turn him into a weapon, or banish him into some other dimension. Like Cyttorak, Mephisto, and Dormammu, granted he'll either escape it or have some sort of tangible extra dimension influence like the others. As for speed, Celestials were only given 3 seconds to prevent the end of all existence while fighting a pre-retconned Beyonder[The Marvel God before "The One Above All] Then there's the Celestial variant known as One Above All along with Scathan. With Scathan capabilities being compared the Living Tribunal at the time of his appearance.
Honestly, I believe that Mcu Tiamut would lose against comics unicron, and win against bayverse unicron, but if tiamut were to be killed by unicron, unicron would have to deal with Arishem
My question would be the aligned Unicron. His blood being dark energon, allows him to control or resurrect cybertronians and machines. So would unicron be able to infect tiamut with dark energon and control him? Or would it just be a form of poison to Tiamut?
Meaning his cosmic energy would be strongwr than a celestials not only that his mind is always alive he can never be destroyed just contain even if you do he will escape soon enough
@@whatifno5400 cybertronian technology has been able to integrate itself into non-cybertronian technology like human tech for example in the first bayformers movie, or in the transformers animated series with grimlock and soundwave being originally human tech
Well, the outcome of the battle depends on which version of Unicron you choose. G1 (cartoon) would be clearly demolished since he's nothing more than a giant artificial mecha but if you pick G1 (comics) Unicron or Aligned (Prime/RID 2015 cartoons) Unicron then MCU Tiamut would be easily defeated since they are both multiversal demons who can consume and/or corrupt all matter.
Gods that aren't organic and human looking are the most interesting n cool ones to talk about and love the image between both tiamut and unicron inside earth together in the thumbnail
Unicron would probably win. If not in the immediate fight, then in the future. This is because Unicron can live without a body, and even possess others that have been tainted by him.
I do find it strange how the supposed emergence of Tiamat was supposed to kill or destroy earth yet it seems to me that when they were emerging they were trying not to do that by any means possible.
Tiamut may be a celestal which maybe close to that of a god, but Unicron is literally part of the fabric of existence of not just 1 universe, but ALL mutliverses. Existance literally cannot work without Unicron, and if he was truly destroyed to a point he would never come back, all of reality would not work. Unicron would win any day of the week
While everyone is talking about how Unicron is one that exists in infinite realities and multiverses all at once, we are forgetting some of his soldiers, one specific one in particular being Sideways, our favorite Split in half 2 piece Audi R8. It’s apparent that Sideways decided to become one to be along side Unicron and aiding him in search of power or something like that (Sideway’s full story is somewhere I don’t remember but it’s on the internet.). The power he was granted by unicron allows him to in a way “Respawn” after death, just in a different universe or reality, however it resets his knowledge and he only remembers being sent to the place he respawns to, and his mission. In Transformers Armada, I have no idea what his mission was because I haven’t watched the show. However in Transformers Animated, he does appear as a fan made character, and the person that had drawn him gave the description of his new mission: Go to Shanghai. It appears that before he could he was killed in some incident, probably when Prowl activated the allspark or whatever it was and every allspark fragment on the planet was brought to it, including the one lodged in Starscreams forehead. This leads into Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, where he makes it to Shanghai and probably given the same mission before prior. Noting all of the decepticons know him regardless of the reality explaining why Scavenger couldn’t have shown confusion when Sideways appeared. After Sideways’ death in ROTF, he makes one last appearence, which is Optimus Primes rage in DOTM. Now this is obviously just reusage of CGI models (with the exception of the Brawl Clone and Scrapper, whom survived Operation Firestorm in RORF), thought Sideways does make a faint appearance as a smaller decepticon stabbed and killed by Optimus. He is likely here because he was possibly brought back into the same universe after dying once again. But yes, Sideways lore, and a perfect example of how Unicrons soldiers never actually die.
I would like to point out that after the Shrouding all multiversal singularities were split into seperate incarnations. In the real world, this is because the writers did not want to be limited, and thus the official transformers convention published such a story.
I think it's worth pointing out in the 1986 animated movie, Spike and Bumblebee rigged one of Cybertron's moons to detonate as Unicron was consuming it and Unicron survived the explosion unscathed, and the reason the Matrix of Leadership could defeat Unicron is because it was imbued with the power of Primus.
I think Unicron got this fight handled. He is basically a eternal planet dark god or something. Dang his brother even needed to make something called “primes” to deal with him.
@@brawmankerlexterminateurde860 Are you talking about the Animation Rewind vs or the Dan Co discussion because Screw Attack never did that battle. Unless I missed one over the past 10 years.
@@brawmankerlexterminateurde860 bruh galactus is from before the birth of universe and is Thanos level Villan while unicorn is so strong giant as big as earth itself but galactus is gonna take the hand bro that would be hell of a fight but galactus is galactus
Originally Unicron was a multiversal entity, which means he exists in eveyr universe at the same time. Sadly, someone in transformers official collector club decided it was a fuckin good idea to unmake both him and Primus's multiversal entity status, and shattered them into shards, while each shards are part of the original self they are now completely seperate entity. If you don't believe me, you can go check Chris Mcfeely's video on Primus and Unicron
The fact that it took me rewatching TFP a week ago to figure out that that was unicron (before i saw this video) just shows how smooth brain i am at tranformers lore
I personally think Unicron, all he would have to do is trap Tiamut in a pocket dimension and destroy that, thus killing Tiamut without any chance of retaliation.
Quintessa: Don’t touch him. He doesn’t like- Sersi: *stares in total shock and confusion* Quintessa: … Sersi: What the fuck? Minn-Erva: [in distance] Told you that planet’s a shithole!
Since Marvel and Transformers were connected at the time of Unicron's comic arc - development, could this be the reason why marvel decided to go with the giant world eating/ destroying entity ... but this time in the form of Tiamut ??? Both feature Gemma Chan btw. Shocking coincidence. As you already spotted 10/10.
Unicron is far older than the Earth (4.5B yr), as like you said, he was created the dawn of creation. Except, that’s not completely true. He was created at the dawn of the previous universe before he succeeded in consuming all reality, but due to shenanigans, the universe was reborn with the Big Bang, bring forth the multiverse
I feel like, out of the two, Unicron would win, almost 100% of the time Due to the point Baltazar Osilva raises, in that Unicron is an ENTITY, meaning if his body is destroyed, he's not truly dead And the fact that almost all of his incarnations, to some extent, have had powers that delve into the energy of chaos. Making him, in some capacity, a literal god of chaos and evil, as opposed to Primus' peace and good.
Dude, I just said that in your other video about 2 gods sleeping in earth tiamut & unicron ! And you made a comparison video, nice Can I get credit for the idea!!
to put the power of comic tiamut into perspective, odin and seth’s battle ripples across every plane of reality, but odin with the destroyer armour couldn’t even handle a few celestials, tiamut was powerful enough to need multiple other top tier celestials to beat him and then he evolved beyond that and was stated to be on the level of the fulcrum, who created the celestials tiamut literally woke up and galactus looked outside his window and pissed himself
Sadly if they showed his full powers by allowing him to transform, the Earth would be destroyed and the show would be over. So his wings are clipped, plus no Planet-Vore. *Michael Bay* had a planet-eating monstrosity that could turn into a giant god-robot, and he wasted it.
I think unicron would win because even if he is killed he is an entity that can inhabit other life forms and he could possibly infect tiamut with dark enegon and control him since anything with his blood in it he can control
One thing you forgot to mention is that unicron succeeded in his goal once, so the one remade the multiverse and he started again. He has already completed 21% of the multiverse. It is one thing yo make galaxies, it is another to destroy the infinite multiverse successfully. Edit: unicorn to unicron
Tough to say, since Last Knights Unicron spent the entire movie alseep...but the 86 movie was boss, and beast wars should do it justice...but there's like multiple celestials and only 1 Unicron, so...
Comic Unicron outmatches Comic Galactus (both never having a full movie scene). So when Galactus can smack every Celestial in the comics. Unicron will just play with Celestials like toys.
Since Marvel and Transformers were connected at the time of Unicron's comic arc - development, could this be the reason why marvel decided to go with the giant world eating/ destroying entity ... but this time in the form of Tiamut ??? Both feature Gemma Chan btw. Shocking coincidence.
So we have • Tiamat who is born from the Earth • Unicron in the Bayverse and Aligned continuity who is the Earth (should we include Gaia, the missing sister of the 2 gods?) • I think Doctor Who had a spider alien be the origin of the planet? • what other series had Earth be like a cocoon, nest, or some dormant form of some higher entity? I actually like this concept.
Eternals: Are you lost? Sersi: ....I wouldn’t do that, don’t touch him........he doesn’t like it Eternals: Who doesn’t like what? Sersi: ......Unicron 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The biggest factor about Unicron is conflict. If there isn't much conflict then it can sometimes cripple him to stand still. But true peace is always unavoidable when old grudges flare up,
Lets also not forget that unicorn also has the potential to have an army of servants empowered by him considering all life on earth can be considered as being unicornian it would make some sense for him to keep it around like the minicons from armada
Unicron,eventhough we haven`t seen him yet in live action movie,but if you know who Unicron is and how powerful is he,he would win against all Celestials no doubt
@@biltongandboba do you even know who Unicron is? he is the embodyment of all evil,destruction,darkness and so on,he`s so powerful that he exists only in one reality,and btw there are more powerful beings in Marvel than the Celestials such as:TOBA,TOAA,Living Tribunal,the Beyonder,Beyonders,Molecule Man,Chaos King,Magus,Galactus,Dormammu,Mephisto,Knull,Borr,Buri,Eternity,Infinity and so on,i know they`re very powerful,but c`mon there are some characters who are way more above them
So I think your analysis is interesting but first and foremost we really don’t know what the Unicron from the Michael Bay movies can really do only since we saw his horns in the Last Night. But honestly Tiamut would lose against Unicron since really the only thing that can kill Unicron is the the Matrix of Leadership, and the only being that can use the Matrix of Leadership is a Prime appointed by Unicrons brother Primus.
I would say that Unicron would win, as he has literally been in the multiverse since the dawn of time itself, he is a devourer of universes. Think Galactus but on a higher level.
There's a problem with the two fighting Unicron is an immortal entity he cannot die you can destroy his physical form then they'll just be an energy form left which will be indestructible regardless! He can just regenerate his physical form again, he can be temporarily knocked out in the Transformers form of a coma called the stasis lock that's how he was in the core to begin with but still nothing what you have will hold him! Oh and the one that blew up in the 1986 film of Transformers G1, that was only a clone! Unicron and his opposite Primus basically gods they can do whatever they want by thinking of it they have an unlimited amount of power as well or construct constructs that have an infinite amount of power! Like the allspark which was created by Primus! And also a little bit of Transformers lore to make this thing too long, you know quintessa in the last knight, she's not the Transformers God Primus is the quintessons came to Cybertron millions of years ago the cybertronians were still in there early stages of development, so it was easy for the quintessons to deceive the Transformers and play God, it was best explained in the aligned continuity, quintessa was greedy she already had control of a bunch of sentient shapeshifting beings but she wanted something that Unicron had! UNLIMITED POWER!!
In the the mcu gardians of the galaxy film, yes, he's a celestial. However, in the comics he was a scientist named Egros, and an entity called the Stranger used his consciousness to create both Ego and his brother Alter-Ego the living planets as a science experiment with the help of the Collector. Ego was set free, and Alter-Ego was held in captivity by the Collector and taught to hate his brother Ego, with the plan to one day make them fight one another so they could see whether freedom or imprisonment built a stronger will.
Yes, but it has nothing to do with Unicron or Primus It’s called “Transformers: Rise of the Beasts”, supposed to be released in 2023. I’m honestly surprised you haven’t heard yet, it’s definitely been making the rounds-especially when it was delayed until 2023 (Was original supposed to come out this year).
Unicron is pretty much the supreme being ín his multiverse along with Primus, they pretty much serve as The Living Tribunal since they both only have 1 being above them in the multiverse, Celestials are way below that level
Basically Unicron would win this fight that he is powerful enough to kill his brother Primus that he can do anything he wants that he knows where the other celestials are even he knows what universe he is in even he made the matrix of chaos that has his life force inside it that he can form any Autobot or Decepticon as his own henchmen like Galvatron (Megatron) or Rodimus Unicronus (Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod) who looks like Lemmey Kilmister the lead singer of motorhead who made Triple H entrance song and plus Unicron can shoot lasers out of his eyes or breath fire out of his mouth and plus unicron is no joke when his blood is flowing through earths core that he can kill Tiamut easily that he is a living parasite inside Unicrons body and also Unicron can beat Galactus in a eating contest except Fat mamma who won against Galactus
I think we will never know as they never really fallow the story as he is in the earth and then the next thing we know he is in outer space. How did he even become trapped in the earth and how did he get free with out hurting the earth
Technical, Unicron IS a planet. As far as I know, in both the movies and Aligned Continuity he is Earth, while in all other forms of TF media he transforms into his own planet.
Tiamut, Tiamat, in marvel he is a big robot thing, in DnD she is all evil dragons mommy, in Mesopotamian myth she is a creator sea goddess with a grudge. In Godzilla comics she is a sea serpent with spores, what else am I missing
Depending on what bayverse would've done it's not really known, but from other depictions of Unicron he'd probably win I think because of his actual (basically unkillable) god status in other continuity's n stuff.
well Unicron is practically immortal in the aspect that he can never die (his body may perish but his very essence doesn't). Both Primus and Unicron would wipe these celestials out due to the fact that they are the forces of light/creation and dark/pure evil that never truly get destroyed but brought back in another body or form. Celestials can die and have been killed by heros/villians or other cosmic beings so clear winner is the one that cannot die lol.
Hm would win, Tiamut the celestial vs Unicron the chaos bringer, the Satan of transformers, the Embodiment of pure evil and chaos. Yeah Unicron would win, and also the concept of Unicron being the earth originated from Transformers prime, and unlike in Transformers The Last Knight, Unicron was actually doing something, like making avatars out of the terrain to attack Optimus, taking control of Megatron to try and kill Optimus, and even after he was defeated he came back, reanimating/reformatting Megatron's corpse to use as a vessel to attack cybertron and almost succeed in killing Primus with his army of reanimated predacon remains before being trapped in a container that was used to hold the allspark and being ejected into space.
Unicron is an entity, If his body is destroyed, his mind lives and he can come back, because he can not die.
Another point, he can posses mechanical bodies, and through he can also reconstruct his own body.
Well, in Marvel Comics, it is something like that.
Sorry by bad English.
That's true he is somewhat like the elder gods from Lovecraft and from the transformers lovecraftian comic
Are all of us is this? Our body is a vessel that grows and eventually dies but our soul lives a long if not forever.
@@mikewhocheeseharry5292 yeah ig but the problem is we arent all powerful dark gods lol.
Our soul will be in a different world after our bodies died. Our soul (Us) will be judged in life after. Please seek the truth of this life because this world is full of lies.
So unicron is just like Quintessa she can do the same
Arishem: "You killed my baby"
Eternals: "He looks angry"
Bruh
Lol😂😂
😂😂.
I’m sad they made him like this in the mcu, kinda like how they did task master. In comics Tiamut was a celestial among celestials
@@njp7893 yea, the whole mcu eternals stuff it's just a mess, making tiamut a new born? Wtf, who thought that was a good idea
you forgot to mention unicrons success at the universes he did devour. In the comics, he is said to have already destroyed a small but noticeable chunk of the multiverse. Also destroying unicron is the last thing you want to do since killing him in one universe will send his spark to another universe to reconstitute. This is why the matrix is used to basically put him in a catatonic state. This was all before the the retconning of multiversal singularities.
If I remember correctly he has destroyed around 22% of the multiverse
@@TAAAKYON he did
His death will also basically release his essence, a nearly unstoppable and ever growing black hole that devours the fabric of existence.
And if you managed to actually truly destroy Unicron well congratulations. Now you have to deal with a multiverse ending black hole known infamously as the unicorn singularity that only primus can close
@@cjsaurus4120 So what would happen if Primus dies?
Unicron is a deity of destruction, he exists in infinite realities yet he is just one. He cannot be destroyed, he can only be 'survived'. Unicron can wipe out realities with a whim of his thought, the only thing that keeps him at bay is the combined essence and knowledge of the 13 stored within the Matrix. Without it we all be in a limbo of unimaginable suffering. (Death is a very sound choice while facing unicron)
How does he get beat cause you can’t have someone that strong and him not die at some point
@@therealbnasty3719 drugs man with a infinite amount of drugs , seriously the description is ridiculous to the point might as well tell in short he cannot defeated nor die nor sleep or wht ever u want it to call
@@therealbnasty3719 Hes only ever been beat in one way with the power of his counterpart and sense younger brother primus and the power of the primes
his energy form got contained in transformers prime "contained" not destroyed
you can contain him, and just fucking seal him there for eternity. Hes the size of a fucking planet too, and eats them. Well atleast he transforms into one on the physical plane. He literally wrecked the fuck out of Cybertron in the movie as well
Just need to note that Unicron is no longer a universal singularity because during a collector's club comic story called The Shrouding which had all of the singularities in the Transformers multiverse be individual separate beings. This was done so that it allowed creators creative freedom to depict Primus, Unicron, and the Thirteen Primes however a writer wanted to depict them.
Why couldn't unicron and primus be role-playing when they are manifest within a universe.
@@rrose9161 see war for cybertron
@@thevesuviuschannel9884 please provide clarification because that is just you telling me to look at war for cybertron rather than telling me why war for cybertron is any more relevant than any other instance of the franchise in regards to my inquiry/question ( please send me a wall of text, thank you).
I know but what about legacy?
@@foxyplayz1399 please clarify as to what legacy entails, thank you ( if you reply back anyway)
Since multiverse is a thing in the MCU, I'd like to see different variations of celestials from other universes. While the main MCU celestials look more bionicle-like with a few exceptions like ego, maybe we could have more monstrous ones like the Dweller. This would definitely support your theory that Dweller is indeed a celestial too 😍
Well, In the comics the celestials PRE-DATE the multiverse. So there aren’t more than one version of them
The conflict between celestial break the universe itself. So they literally created multiverse because of their war. They said their war tear universe apart into multiverse
They are Nexus Being.
Externals kinda ruined everything
@@manbearpig710 stop doing that👀
This fight weighs in Unicrons favour more than I'd like to admit, and I love the Celestials. Theres only one thing in the universe that can stop him, and it only puts him in a coma, or simply displaces his mind from his body, allowing him to make a new one. The celestials might be able to create suns and life, energy and cosmic power, but Unicron literally eats all those things for breakfast, hell, Unicron hasalready eaten a noticeable portion of the multiverse in lore already. And with the abilities of resurection, matter manipulation, mind domination, true transformation, and cosmic devastation, the chances of the Celestials escaping his violent and gnashing maw are slim to none.
Celestials may be gods, but Unicron is an eldritch terror, unkillable, unreasonable, and unyielding; carving a great bloody scar across reality itself, until reality is no more.
You do not beat Unicron, you survive him.
Edit: spelling
Or...you just ignore it because it's fiction.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 so why are you here, Mr Fun? Both this video and comment is about fiction, why don't you ignore it?
Well to be fair, not all Celestial fall under the same power scale some are weak and some are vastly more powerful than others.
Each Celestial has varying degrees of universal matter manipulation, reality warping, and multiversal capabilities.
As for dying, death for isnt the same as a typical mortal being. The physical manifestation you see in comics/movies are mere avators[shells] that are being controlled from Hyperspace where the Celestials true forms resides, and each of their true forms is side to be the size of a galaxy.
@@MajorisMons True you're right, but Unicron eats galaxies and even universes. Reality manipulation doesn't work when your enemy is eating reality faster than you can change it. They could definitely survive somehow, but they'd never win, not without the matrix of leadership.
@@Indi.go1
If I'm remembering correctly, Unicorn only ate mostly 1 universe, and the tiny pieces of that universe formed another one around him as he slept. Then it gave birth to a sentient defender "Primus", to protect it from another inevitable demise upon Unicrons awakening.
Yes Unicron has the capacity to destroy a universe, but facing an entire race of Celestials that allegedly accidentally created a multiverse, wouldnt be a easy fight..
Celestials would either run experiments on him, turn him into a weapon, or banish him into some other dimension. Like Cyttorak, Mephisto, and Dormammu, granted he'll either escape it or have some sort of tangible extra dimension influence like the others.
As for speed, Celestials were only given 3 seconds to prevent the end of all existence while fighting a pre-retconned Beyonder[The Marvel God before "The One Above All]
Then there's the Celestial variant known as One Above All along with Scathan. With Scathan capabilities being compared the Living Tribunal at the time of his appearance.
Honestly, I believe that Mcu Tiamut would lose against comics unicron, and win against bayverse unicron, but if tiamut were to be killed by unicron, unicron would have to deal with Arishem
Unicron from comics shits on all Celestials from comics
@@lordrayson-thc5324 excuse me
Marvel transformers?
@@gruntyboithebetter8335 comics unicron is the literal cosmic force of destruction entropy etc
@@lordmeepers7297 celestials in comics are gods too.
My question would be the aligned Unicron. His blood being dark energon, allows him to control or resurrect cybertronians and machines. So would unicron be able to infect tiamut with dark energon and control him? Or would it just be a form of poison to Tiamut?
It probably wouldn't do much to Tiamat since he isn't a cybertronian
Dark energon is dangerous to anything its literally the blood of the chaos bringer he existed before time and was created by the one
Meaning his cosmic energy would be strongwr than a celestials not only that his mind is always alive he can never be destroyed just contain even if you do he will escape soon enough
@@whatifno5400 TiaMUT, not Tiamat. Tiamat is the name of a kaiju.
@@whatifno5400 cybertronian technology has been able to integrate itself into non-cybertronian technology like human tech for example in the first bayformers movie, or in the transformers animated series with grimlock and soundwave being originally human tech
They tried to prevent Unicron, now we got Omicron
Well, the outcome of the battle depends on which version of Unicron you choose. G1 (cartoon) would be clearly demolished since he's nothing more than a giant artificial mecha but if you pick G1 (comics) Unicron or Aligned (Prime/RID 2015 cartoons) Unicron then MCU Tiamut would be easily defeated since they are both multiversal demons who can consume and/or corrupt all matter.
the one thing the only thing that can stand in g1 unicrons way is the matrix of leader. that's it. it's the only way to destroy him
If you want to get technical, seeing as how Unicron is a multiversal being that would include the G1 version
Gods that aren't organic and human looking are the most interesting n cool ones to talk about and love the image between both tiamut and unicron inside earth together in the thumbnail
They still have blood considering he was created before time itself his blood would be poison but far Stronger
Unicron would probably win. If not in the immediate fight, then in the future. This is because Unicron can live without a body, and even possess others that have been tainted by him.
I do find it strange how the supposed emergence of Tiamat was supposed to kill or destroy earth yet it seems to me that when they were emerging they were trying not to do that by any means possible.
Tiamut may be a celestal which maybe close to that of a god, but Unicron is literally part of the fabric of existence of not just 1 universe, but ALL mutliverses. Existance literally cannot work without Unicron, and if he was truly destroyed to a point he would never come back, all of reality would not work. Unicron would win any day of the week
While everyone is talking about how Unicron is one that exists in infinite realities and multiverses all at once, we are forgetting some of his soldiers, one specific one in particular being Sideways, our favorite Split in half 2 piece Audi R8. It’s apparent that Sideways decided to become one to be along side Unicron and aiding him in search of power or something like that (Sideway’s full story is somewhere I don’t remember but it’s on the internet.). The power he was granted by unicron allows him to in a way “Respawn” after death, just in a different universe or reality, however it resets his knowledge and he only remembers being sent to the place he respawns to, and his mission. In Transformers Armada, I have no idea what his mission was because I haven’t watched the show. However in Transformers Animated, he does appear as a fan made character, and the person that had drawn him gave the description of his new mission: Go to Shanghai. It appears that before he could he was killed in some incident, probably when Prowl activated the allspark or whatever it was and every allspark fragment on the planet was brought to it, including the one lodged in Starscreams forehead. This leads into Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, where he makes it to Shanghai and probably given the same mission before prior. Noting all of the decepticons know him regardless of the reality explaining why Scavenger couldn’t have shown confusion when Sideways appeared. After Sideways’ death in ROTF, he makes one last appearence, which is Optimus Primes rage in DOTM. Now this is obviously just reusage of CGI models (with the exception of the Brawl Clone and Scrapper, whom survived Operation Firestorm in RORF), thought Sideways does make a faint appearance as a smaller decepticon stabbed and killed by Optimus. He is likely here because he was possibly brought back into the same universe after dying once again. But yes, Sideways lore, and a perfect example of how Unicrons soldiers never actually die.
I would like to point out that after the Shrouding all multiversal singularities were split into seperate incarnations. In the real world, this is because the writers did not want to be limited, and thus the official transformers convention published such a story.
Funfact is Quintessa and Sersi want to destroy them and both of this characters portrayed by Gemma Chan
I think it's worth pointing out in the 1986 animated movie, Spike and Bumblebee rigged one of Cybertron's moons to detonate as Unicron was consuming it and Unicron survived the explosion unscathed, and the reason the Matrix of Leadership could defeat Unicron is because it was imbued with the power of Primus.
I think Unicron got this fight handled. He is basically a eternal planet dark god or something. Dang his brother even needed to make something called “primes” to deal with him.
MindQ, please, bring Unicron vs Galactus!
There was a death battle between them and unicron won with facts
@@brawmankerlexterminateurde860 Are you talking about the Animation Rewind vs or the Dan Co discussion because Screw Attack never did that battle. Unless I missed one over the past 10 years.
@@brawmankerlexterminateurde860 bruh galactus is from before the birth of universe and is Thanos level Villan while unicorn is so strong giant as big as earth itself but galactus is gonna take the hand bro that would be hell of a fight but galactus is galactus
@@Pruthviraj780 and galactus is the living embodiment of darkness and he's also multiversal.
@@Pruthviraj780 Unicron slaps Galactus and Thanos lmao in a random encounter on average
Originally Unicron was a multiversal entity, which means he exists in eveyr universe at the same time. Sadly, someone in transformers official collector club decided it was a fuckin good idea to unmake both him and Primus's multiversal entity status, and shattered them into shards, while each shards are part of the original self they are now completely seperate entity.
If you don't believe me, you can go check Chris Mcfeely's video on Primus and Unicron
That was a brilliant video thank you.
I'm commenting before watching the video. Unicron's stats are extremely next next next next level.
He Is at galactus and anti monitor level combine
Nice vid man
The fact that it took me rewatching TFP a week ago to figure out that that was unicron (before i saw this video) just shows how smooth brain i am at tranformers lore
I personally think Unicron, all he would have to do is trap Tiamut in a pocket dimension and destroy that, thus killing Tiamut without any chance of retaliation.
Quintessa: Don’t touch him. He doesn’t like-
Sersi: *stares in total shock and confusion*
Quintessa: …
Sersi: What the fuck?
Minn-Erva: [in distance] Told you that planet’s a shithole!
Since Marvel and Transformers were connected at the time of Unicron's comic arc - development, could this be the reason why marvel decided to go with the giant world eating/ destroying entity ... but this time in the form of Tiamut ??? Both feature Gemma Chan btw. Shocking coincidence. As you already spotted 10/10.
Unicron would win because he physically CANNOT DIE.
But still a good video
Facts
Unicron is far older than the Earth (4.5B yr), as like you said, he was created the dawn of creation. Except, that’s not completely true. He was created at the dawn of the previous universe before he succeeded in consuming all reality, but due to shenanigans, the universe was reborn with the Big Bang, bring forth the multiverse
I feel like, out of the two, Unicron would win, almost 100% of the time
Due to the point Baltazar Osilva raises, in that Unicron is an ENTITY, meaning if his body is destroyed, he's not truly dead
And the fact that almost all of his incarnations, to some extent, have had powers that delve into the energy of chaos. Making him, in some capacity, a literal god of chaos and evil, as opposed to Primus' peace and good.
Love your videos
Dude, I just said that in your other video about 2 gods sleeping in earth tiamut & unicron ! And you made a comparison video, nice
Can I get credit for the idea!!
to put the power of comic tiamut into perspective, odin and seth’s battle ripples across every plane of reality, but odin with the destroyer armour couldn’t even handle a few celestials, tiamut was powerful enough to need multiple other top tier celestials to beat him and then he evolved beyond that and was stated to be on the level of the fulcrum, who created the celestials
tiamut literally woke up and galactus looked outside his window and pissed himself
Amazing Lore
That is right, but Galactus is considered a puss baby to unicron.
Transformers prime’s version of Unicron is my favourite version only because the Bayverse version didn’t have a chance to show his powers…
Sadly if they showed his full powers by allowing him to transform, the Earth would be destroyed and the show would be over. So his wings are clipped, plus no Planet-Vore. *Michael Bay* had a planet-eating monstrosity that could turn into a giant god-robot, and he wasted it.
I hate when people mistake this, Unicron is not the size of the earth Unicron is the earth
I think unicron would win because even if he is killed he is an entity that can inhabit other life forms and he could possibly infect tiamut with dark enegon and control him since anything with his blood in it he can control
One thing you forgot to mention is that unicron succeeded in his goal once, so the one remade the multiverse and he started again. He has already completed 21% of the multiverse. It is one thing yo make galaxies, it is another to destroy the infinite multiverse successfully.
Edit: unicorn to unicron
Tough to say, since Last Knights Unicron spent the entire movie alseep...but the 86 movie was boss, and beast wars should do it justice...but there's like multiple celestials and only 1 Unicron, so...
Comic Unicron outmatches Comic Galactus (both never having a full movie scene).
So when Galactus can smack every Celestial in the comics. Unicron will just play with Celestials like toys.
You forgot to mention that unicron can only be killed by the matrix of leadership
I feel like tiamut and unicron are just chilling in the same bed but on opposite sides with tiamut putting his cold gold feet on unicron
Well Unicron can't die and he exists in multiple realities and can even see other realities and can communicate with his other selves.
Celestial & Eternals vs Bay verse the transformers?
Yes
@@brawmankerlexterminateurde860 wow😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Due to being an infant tiamut wouldn't have the experience needed to control his powers completely so this makes me think Unicron would clap Tiumut
Unicron exists in every galaxy and universe and he can be reborn in another universe if he dies. And ca trave trou universes so it can't die.
Coincidentally, Gemma Chan's also an actress to an another planet eater's enemy.
Please can you tell who is the strongest Godzilla in world , because i m confused which is the King of the Monsters
Weakest to Strongest
Comics Godzilla killed God and Satan, look it up
@@hhgff778 ???
@@azizgames3287 it's from a comics series called "Godzilla in Hell", issue 3
@@hhgff778 ur a God.
@Reptilian Barate thanks for idea
Can u make Top Strongeat dinosaur from Jurassic park or world
it depends on the biome
Since Marvel and Transformers were connected at the time of Unicron's comic arc - development, could this be the reason why marvel decided to go with the giant world eating/ destroying entity ... but this time in the form of Tiamut ??? Both feature Gemma Chan btw. Shocking coincidence.
So we have
• Tiamat who is born from the Earth
• Unicron in the Bayverse and Aligned continuity who is the Earth (should we include Gaia, the missing sister of the 2 gods?)
• I think Doctor Who had a spider alien be the origin of the planet?
• what other series had Earth be like a cocoon, nest, or some dormant form of some higher entity? I actually like this concept.
Eternals: Are you lost?
Sersi: ....I wouldn’t do that, don’t touch him........he doesn’t like it
Eternals: Who doesn’t like what?
Sersi: ......Unicron
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine they fought unicorn i would assume he can consume the entire solar system
The biggest factor about Unicron is conflict. If there isn't much conflict then it can sometimes cripple him to stand still.
But true peace is always unavoidable when old grudges flare up,
Lets also not forget that unicorn also has the potential to have an army of servants empowered by him considering all life on earth can be considered as being unicornian it would make some sense for him to keep it around like the minicons from armada
Unicron,eventhough we haven`t seen him yet in live action movie,but if you know who Unicron is and how powerful is he,he would win against all Celestials no doubt
If you're going by comics, no way. Tiamut later ascends to the level of the Fulcrum and that's the tippy top of Marvel power hierarchy.
@@biltongandboba do you even know who Unicron is? he is the embodyment of all evil,destruction,darkness and so on,he`s so powerful that he exists only in one reality,and btw there are more powerful beings in Marvel than the Celestials such as:TOBA,TOAA,Living Tribunal,the Beyonder,Beyonders,Molecule Man,Chaos King,Magus,Galactus,Dormammu,Mephisto,Knull,Borr,Buri,Eternity,Infinity and so on,i know they`re very powerful,but c`mon there are some characters who are way more above them
@@lordrayson-thc5324 the one above all
@@vvip9250 some of them,not half ;)
@@GlopPlopJop i said the one above all: TOAA
Unicron ftw hands down! Tiamut doesn’t have the matrix of leadership as it is “the one thing, the ONLY thing that can stand in my way.”-Unicron.
Both won in the
“To never be explained”
Category
What will be the next chapter of transformer movie franchise?
So they're living in earth like after years in the future. What happens if they're meet each other in different countries?
So I think your analysis is interesting but first and foremost we really don’t know what the Unicron from the Michael Bay movies can really do only since we saw his horns in the Last Night. But honestly Tiamut would lose against Unicron since really the only thing that can kill Unicron is the the Matrix of Leadership, and the only being that can use the Matrix of Leadership is a Prime appointed by Unicrons brother Primus.
Same actress, Gemma Chan as Quintessa 🤣
Can you make unicron vs ego?
I would say that Unicron would win, as he has literally been in the multiverse since the dawn of time itself, he is a devourer of universes. Think Galactus but on a higher level.
Unicorn is way older he was born or created at the time the universe was created by a bieng that existed before
There's a problem with the two fighting Unicron is an immortal entity he cannot die you can destroy his physical form then they'll just be an energy form left which will be indestructible regardless! He can just regenerate his physical form again, he can be temporarily knocked out in the Transformers form of a coma called the stasis lock that's how he was in the core to begin with but still nothing what you have will hold him!
Oh and the one that blew up in the 1986 film of Transformers G1, that was only a clone!
Unicron and his opposite Primus basically gods they can do whatever they want by thinking of it they have an unlimited amount of power as well or construct constructs that have an infinite amount of power!
Like the allspark which was created by Primus!
And also a little bit of Transformers lore to make this thing too long, you know quintessa in the last knight, she's not the Transformers God Primus is the quintessons came to Cybertron millions of years ago the cybertronians were still in there early stages of development, so it was easy for the quintessons to deceive the Transformers and play God, it was best explained in the aligned continuity, quintessa was greedy she already had control of a bunch of sentient shapeshifting beings but she wanted something that Unicron had! UNLIMITED POWER!!
Unicron: a Dark God Exist from the beginning of time as same as his brother The God of Transformer or the God of light Creator Primus
Scape God vs Space Robot
Enough said
I have a question is unicron and tiamut just one guy if it is unicron could be a celestial being.
What's name of the background music any 1 pls
Was ego from the gaudians of the galaxy 2 movie a mutated celestial who stayed as a seed within the planet that he controlled
In the the mcu gardians of the galaxy film, yes, he's a celestial.
However, in the comics he was a scientist named Egros, and an entity called the Stranger used his consciousness to create both Ego and his brother Alter-Ego the living planets as a science experiment with the help of the Collector.
Ego was set free, and Alter-Ego was held in captivity by the Collector and taught to hate his brother Ego, with the plan to one day make them fight one another so they could see whether freedom or imprisonment built a stronger will.
@@Indi.go1 thanks I was only referring to the mcu film and I was aware of the comics but I didn't know about the Egros thing again thank you.
@@rrose9161 my bad, I see now you were referring to the movie, I saw a question I knew the answer too and thought 'my time is now' xD
@@Indi.go1 understandable, there was no harm done but thank you anyway
Is Galactus has same size as them? Or he is bigger?
celestials can change their size so yes and no, most of the time their portrayed to be the same size
Neither
Unicorn due to the fact that hos powers are the same for all of his versions his only weakness is the matrix of leadership
the real question is would unicron or primus would win in a fight
Is there a new Transformers movie?
Yes, but it has nothing to do with Unicron or Primus
It’s called “Transformers: Rise of the Beasts”, supposed to be released in 2023. I’m honestly surprised you haven’t heard yet, it’s definitely been making the rounds-especially when it was delayed until 2023 (Was original supposed to come out this year).
@@GN2T It will come out in 2023.
Plzz do celestials vs unicron vs galactus
And plzz do dormamu vs surthur
I’m so down win the sickness 😉I’m fully on the DL with it! 😈
This is an epic match up.
Unicron is pretty much the supreme being ín his multiverse along with Primus, they pretty much serve as The Living Tribunal since they both only have 1 being above them in the multiverse, Celestials are way below that level
Not only can Unicron win but him and Primus will tag team that s***
Basically Unicron would win this fight that he is powerful enough to kill his brother Primus that he can do anything he wants that he knows where the other celestials are even he knows what universe he is in even he made the matrix of chaos that has his life force inside it that he can form any Autobot or Decepticon as his own henchmen like Galvatron (Megatron) or Rodimus Unicronus (Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod) who looks like Lemmey Kilmister the lead singer of motorhead who made Triple H entrance song and plus Unicron can shoot lasers out of his eyes or breath fire out of his mouth and plus unicron is no joke when his blood is flowing through earths core that he can kill Tiamut easily that he is a living parasite inside Unicrons body and also Unicron can beat Galactus in a eating contest except Fat mamma who won against Galactus
Tiamut from Eternals and Unicron from Transformers at their body size of the planets
Hey mindQ what about primus
I think we will never know as they never really fallow the story as he is in the earth and then the next thing we know he is in outer space. How did he even become trapped in the earth and how did he get free with out hurting the earth
It's just sad that TF "the era of Unicron" was canceled
I like the original unicron who was too big to be IN a planet, thereby making unicorn way bigger than tiamut
Technical, Unicron IS a planet. As far as I know, in both the movies and Aligned Continuity he is Earth, while in all other forms of TF media he transforms into his own planet.
celestials are as big as they need to be, they aren’t bound by size
@@AJ-bg6ko neither is unicron.
@@dippy_1999 he is a planet that literally eats other planets by shoving them into himself.
@@winst999 okay but you said unicron was bigger because tiamut is only planet sized, im just correcting you
im confused, if Unicron is the planet eater in Transformers rise of the beasts then who is the Unicron in the earth???
Movie retcons/reboot
Ngl when he said tiamut I thought he was talking about monster verses tiamut
Tiamut, Tiamat, in marvel he is a big robot thing, in DnD she is all evil dragons mommy, in Mesopotamian myth she is a creator sea goddess with a grudge. In Godzilla comics she is a sea serpent with spores, what else am I missing
I really wonder wat the bey unicron would’ve looked like
I was actually thinking that when I first saw eternals
Imagine if the other titans like Quil's father and other titans from transformers would join the fight?
Why do you sound very similar to the UA-cam channel @NutBug
Depending on what bayverse would've done it's not really known, but from other depictions of Unicron he'd probably win I think because of his actual (basically unkillable) god status in other continuity's n stuff.
Mati from Dune had two giant space worms than may have well been able to eat them both.
By unicron I thought you meant the overlord titan from transformers xD
damn i forgot that unicron existed and was revealed after the last knight i was a huge transformers fan back then
imagine if were made from gold, people would go nuts for it.
7:32 The Hungary there xD
well Unicron is practically immortal in the aspect that he can never die (his body may perish but his very essence doesn't). Both Primus and Unicron would wipe these celestials out due to the fact that they are the forces of light/creation and dark/pure evil that never truly get destroyed but brought back in another body or form. Celestials can die and have been killed by heros/villians or other cosmic beings so clear winner is the one that cannot die lol.
Hm would win, Tiamut the celestial vs Unicron the chaos bringer, the Satan of transformers, the Embodiment of pure evil and chaos. Yeah Unicron would win, and also the concept of Unicron being the earth originated from Transformers prime, and unlike in Transformers The Last Knight, Unicron was actually doing something, like making avatars out of the terrain to attack Optimus, taking control of Megatron to try and kill Optimus, and even after he was defeated he came back, reanimating/reformatting Megatron's corpse to use as a vessel to attack cybertron and almost succeed in killing Primus with his army of reanimated predacon remains before being trapped in a container that was used to hold the allspark and being ejected into space.
Celestial birds?
The difference between the two is that Tiamat is inside the earth. Unicron IS the earth