Oh thank you so much for presenting this use d to love being down the end of the runway watching all the aircraft launch awesome so many great memories and fantastic crews of all the Nations stay safe all see ya
I can hear Hornet starting in the background 🤤Those Singapore Scooters look fantastic in the South East Asia Camo. Now I’m starting to have Fighter jet withdrawals. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
@@Aviation_Videos The scooters used the Pratt & Whitney J52 engine & the Hornet used General Electric F404-GE-402 afterburning turbofan engines. I've heard Hornets starting on many occasion from my house near RAAF Darwin. I've only ever heard Hornets make that whining sound on start up
@@Aviation_Videos Did not know that. Thanks for the info must of been non after burner. What a weapon the A4SU would of been. I use to watch the Scooters as a kid at HMAS Albatross & they never made that sound starting up & that would be why.👍
@@matk4731 yeah I thought the same sounded like hornets starting up did a little google and saw they used F404 it would be an awesome little jet to fly around
I remember reading that we plonked a new F404 turbofan engine onto the A4SU in its final upgrade, it overtook the (then) much more superior RSAF Tiger II in flight.
Everybody loves Skyhawks! We used to overhaul the RAN hawks as the Qantas Jet Base. But it was also nice see the F111's at 8:15 waiting their turn. Looks like a C and a G if my eyes haven't totally failed me.
Hi Paul, RSAF’s two-cockpit skyhawk variant was around since early 70s. The A-4s incorported the new GE engine in the late 80s after a series of crashes showed up the age of the PW engine
The word "archives" seems to have been lost on some of you. This is video footage from more than 2 decades ago. Singaporean A4 Skyhawks first participated in the RAAF's Ex Pitch Black in 1991.
Curious as to why they didn't incorporate afterburners in at least some of those GE F404 engines. Maybe a length issue, or perhaps the airframe couldn't handle the stress? At any rate, I think it would have made for a decent short-range fighter aircraft. The A-4 already has respectable maneuverability, although I would screw those leading-edge slats in place like the Blue Angels to prevent any unexpected asymmetric instability. The extra boost from from an AB would be the icing on the cake.
no point; 1) the re-engining was mainly to solve reliability issues from the ageing J65s; in fact the particular f404s installed were down-rated to about 11.5k lbf dry 2) skyhawk's airframe was not rated to go past m1.0: it could but it would return damaged 3) the thing already had greater t:w than contemporary f-5's going at full afterburner! During tests, the su would outrun the f-5 chase planes especially at low altitude
@@aaronquak2139 Thanks! I knew they had to replace those J65s. I was initially curious also as to why they didn't choose the tried and true J52-P408, which had slightly greater thrust than the GE F404, but let me guess: age, weight, and fuel efficiency.
@@19580822 yes; by 1985-1992 you couldn't buy fresh J52s anymore. PW were willing to restart the production line, but the F404 was selected over the J52 and RB199 then under consideration. In any case the 404 was more reliable and serviceable, being designed for the Hornet, and was much lighter than the J52. ST Aerospace probably saw it as a chance to develop in-house capabilities too. The earlier TA-4S/S-1 were also totally different from US TA-4s and retained the J65 for commonality.
I used to work at McDonnell Douglas and one of the old salts told me that they once put an afterburning F404 in a Skyhawk as an experiment. He said the thing was a beast. I have no verification of that, though.
Wow, my father flew a Skyhawk off the U.S.S. Saratoga CV60 like sixty years ago VF31. Nice to see them still in the air. You ac actually purchase a demilitarized Skyhawk
Do u know that the A4SU is smaller but it can carry heavy ammunition and acts as a fighter bomber. Other aircrafts will need to fold its wings when they are stored in an aircraft carrier but A4 need not. With its short take off and short landing abilities, it can still match any modern aircrafts today. Served as an carrier airborne fighter bomber, it will remain and still is a threat to any modern naval fleet today. The day of A4SU fighting in a war may not be over yet especially with its ability to carry nuclear weapons.
A4SU if used today, will still be a formidable aircraft if u know how to fly and fight with it effectively. It would be a threat to anyone or any modern aircrafts and warships.
Do u know that the A4SU is smaller but it can carry heavy ammunition and acts as a fighter bomber. Other aircrafts will need to fold its wings when they are stored in an aircraft carrier but A4 need not. With its short take off and short landing abilities, it can still match any modern aircrafts today. Served as an carrier airborne fighter bomber, it will remain and still is a threat to any modern naval fleet today. The day of A4SU fighting in a war may not be over yet especially with its ability to carry nuclear weapons.
Did RSAF mothballed these A4SU instead of scrapping them? We had more than 100 of these last time and made us a country that has the largest number of fighters in this region.
Skyhawk a 4 Malaysia buy 88 unit during 80s but only 44 unit can be in service but now all of them are not in service anymore.anyone remember Falkland war?
Yeah, even the uniforms were old... The technicians wear pixelated camos nowadays like the USAF. The uniforms you see here is like 2-3 generations ago.
El modelo que usan los Singapurenses es muy distinto al que tiene casi todos los operadores (incluidos nosotros los Argentinos) ya que comunmente el modelo de entrenamiento; es de una cupula singular; mientras que el modelo SU es la fusion de 2 cabinas del A-4 normal en un mismo fuselaje (con un diseño que recuerda al helicoptero ruso el MI-24), quisas lo hicieron con el proposito de darle un "realismo" mejor al entrenamiento del pilotaje de estos scooters.
WOW this seems like they put a real HUD and GPS Navigation in those A-4's! And the Paintjob makes them look menacing!
A proper WDNS (weapon delivery and navigation system), new MFDs, compatibility with smart munitions of the 90s, and other new sensors.
Oh thank you so much for presenting this use d to love being down the end of the runway watching all the aircraft launch awesome so many great memories and fantastic crews of all the Nations stay safe all see ya
I can hear Hornet starting in the background 🤤Those Singapore Scooters look fantastic in the South East Asia Camo. Now I’m starting to have Fighter jet withdrawals. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
It is the Skyhawks starting up they use the Hornet Engines
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The scooters used the Pratt & Whitney J52 engine & the Hornet used General Electric F404-GE-402 afterburning turbofan engines.
I've heard Hornets starting on many occasion from my house near RAAF Darwin. I've only ever heard Hornets make that whining sound on start up
Google A4SU Skyhawks that what these are and they use F404s
@@Aviation_Videos
Did not know that.
Thanks for the info must of been non after burner. What a weapon the A4SU would of been.
I use to watch the Scooters as a kid at HMAS Albatross & they never made that sound starting up & that would be why.👍
@@matk4731 yeah I thought the same sounded like hornets starting up did a little google and saw they used F404 it would be an awesome little jet to fly around
I remember reading that we plonked a new F404 turbofan engine onto the A4SU in its final upgrade, it overtook the (then) much more superior RSAF Tiger II in flight.
Correction - that's F5E Tiger II.
Thank you👍
In1986 -1988 as a contract worker , A4 >>>Super A4 upgrading project .
Everybody loves Skyhawks! We used to overhaul the RAN hawks as the Qantas Jet Base. But it was also nice see the F111's at 8:15 waiting their turn. Looks like a C and a G if my eyes haven't totally failed me.
Thanks Great Footage. Well Done RAAF.
I never knew they had re-engineered the 'Scooter' to incorporate a completely separate rear cockpit. Thank you.
Hi Paul, RSAF’s two-cockpit skyhawk variant was around since early 70s. The A-4s incorported the new GE engine in the late 80s after a series of crashes showed up the age of the PW engine
@@IRP01 What a hot rod with the F404!
Thank you, bring back good old memories. Manage to see a few old friends being captured in the video.
Thank you for the posting. Much appreciated.
Love Skyhawks! VMAT-102, VMA-211, VMA-214, VMA-311, MAG-42
Semper fi sir! Much respect!
The word "archives" seems to have been lost on some of you. This is video footage from more than 2 decades ago. Singaporean A4 Skyhawks first participated in the RAAF's Ex Pitch Black in 1991.
Curious as to why they didn't incorporate afterburners in at least some of those GE F404 engines. Maybe a length issue, or perhaps the airframe couldn't handle the stress? At any rate, I think it would have made for a decent short-range fighter aircraft. The A-4 already has respectable maneuverability, although I would screw those leading-edge slats in place like the Blue Angels to prevent any unexpected asymmetric instability. The extra boost from from an AB would be the icing on the cake.
no point; 1) the re-engining was mainly to solve reliability issues from the ageing J65s; in fact the particular f404s installed were down-rated to about 11.5k lbf dry 2) skyhawk's airframe was not rated to go past m1.0: it could but it would return damaged 3) the thing already had greater t:w than contemporary f-5's going at full afterburner! During tests, the su would outrun the f-5 chase planes especially at low altitude
@@aaronquak2139 Thanks! I knew they had to replace those J65s. I was initially curious also as to why they didn't choose the tried and true J52-P408, which had slightly greater thrust than the GE F404, but let me guess: age, weight, and fuel efficiency.
@@19580822 yes; by 1985-1992 you couldn't buy fresh J52s anymore. PW were willing to restart the production line, but the F404 was selected over the J52 and RB199 then under consideration. In any case the 404 was more reliable and serviceable, being designed for the Hornet, and was much lighter than the J52. ST Aerospace probably saw it as a chance to develop in-house capabilities too. The earlier TA-4S/S-1 were also totally different from US TA-4s and retained the J65 for commonality.
I used to work at McDonnell Douglas and one of the old salts told me that they once put an afterburning F404 in a Skyhawk as an experiment. He said the thing was a beast. I have no verification of that, though.
@@edwardbarocela3064Sounds about right - it would have been a beast!
Very nice. Thank you so much for this.
A4SU & TA4SU;Thank you Australia~
haha saw my batch guy from tab , wow we were so young back then.
Wow, this is history.
Wow, my father flew a Skyhawk off the U.S.S. Saratoga CV60 like sixty years ago VF31. Nice to see them still in the air. You ac actually purchase a demilitarized Skyhawk
WOW Where are you Digging up from are New Zealand A-4 Skyhawks Films in there
Singaporean not NZ
It would nice to see NZ get some aircraft, the old sky hawks were almost a gift .
That A-4SU looks hot, where can I get a SUPER cheap A-4
1990 time machine video ? skyhawls still in service in singapore air force ?
Phased out more than 10 years ago .
Do u know that the A4SU is smaller but it can carry heavy ammunition and acts as a fighter bomber. Other aircrafts will need to fold its wings when they are stored in an aircraft carrier but A4 need not. With its short take off and short landing abilities, it can still match any modern aircrafts today. Served as an carrier airborne fighter bomber, it will remain and still is a threat to any modern naval fleet today. The day of A4SU fighting in a war may not be over yet especially with its ability to carry nuclear weapons.
A4SU if used today, will still be a formidable aircraft if u know how to fly and fight with it effectively. It would be a threat to anyone or any modern aircrafts and warships.
Only effective as a light bomber in the aftermath of an invasion.
Do u know that the A4SU is smaller but it can carry heavy ammunition and acts as a fighter bomber. Other aircrafts will need to fold its wings when they are stored in an aircraft carrier but A4 need not. With its short take off and short landing abilities, it can still match any modern aircrafts today. Served as an carrier airborne fighter bomber, it will remain and still is a threat to any modern naval fleet today. The day of A4SU fighting in a war may not be over yet especially with its ability to carry nuclear weapons.
@@kambehlan9216 subsonic speed is its drawback bro.
6 months ago.
How come still got A4S Super Skyhawks??
Thought phased out 20 years+ ago during my service time. Or i travelled time machine backward?
If my memory serves me right RSAF skyhawks flew well into the early 2000s..
145 Sqn might be the last to fly it
142&143.@@25foxbat1
Singapore had 2 squadrans of the Hawker Hunters before the Skyhawks.
When was this are they still operating the Skyhawk?
Did RSAF mothballed these A4SU instead of scrapping them? We had more than 100 of these last time and made us a country that has the largest number of fighters in this region.
Where are they now?
This must be old footage. The skyhawks were phased out by the RSAF like donkey years ago.
Yeah, it says “archives” in the title... And “1990” in the description...
Australia is good, good, good, good. Trade is good.
Skyhawk a 4 Malaysia buy 88 unit during 80s but only 44 unit can be in service but now all of them are not in service anymore.anyone remember Falkland war?
En el 82 los argies con Skyhawks de los 60 mandaron al fondo del mar varios buques piratas del tipo 21-22 y 42
In Singapore we no longer using A4s. We only keep F16s, F15s. Soon we will be getting rid of F16 and bring in F-35.
Wow
Good team
Gd video quality!
In 1982 the British RN Sea Harriers blew the Argentinian Skyhawks out of the sky!
En el 82 los argies con Skyhawks de los 60 mandaron varios buques piratas del tipo 21-22 y 42 al fondo del mar
🇸🇬 🇭🇲 👍❤❤❤
Dam they still using thoughs old aircraft
this was the 90s bro
Yeah, even the uniforms were old... The technicians wear pixelated camos nowadays like the USAF. The uniforms you see here is like 2-3 generations ago.
Que raro se ve el a4 biplaza.
El modelo que usan los Singapurenses es muy distinto al que tiene casi todos los operadores (incluidos nosotros los Argentinos) ya que comunmente el modelo de entrenamiento; es de una cupula singular; mientras que el modelo SU es la fusion de 2 cabinas del A-4 normal en un mismo fuselaje (con un diseño que recuerda al helicoptero ruso el MI-24), quisas lo hicieron con el proposito de darle un "realismo" mejor al entrenamiento del pilotaje de estos scooters.
بحال فيذية تيكتوك الولذ لي باغي يشرب اتاي انا تنقول بحالو a4 a4 a4
ถ้าจะปลดประจำการก็ต้องส่งมอบมาทั้งชิ้นส่วนอะไหล่ด้วย
Raaf should never donated them!!
Saigon SAMS
These were cheap. To modify as inertia-parabola autonomous-drones is cheap in 2024. To build new to diss enemy-manufacturer is now a possibility.
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