NASCAR Heat 5 Setup - Daytona and Talladega (Cup,Xfinity,Trucks)

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  • Today's NASCAR Heat 5 setup will be for Daytona and Talladega. These tracks are very similar and I use the same setup at each. The focus at Daytona and Talladega will be max speed and the setup will reflect that. The goal for Qualifying is to minimize the amount of speed lost in the corners using a combination of setup and driving line. The setup for both Xfinity and Trucks is nearly identical to Cup so I will only show Cup and reference a few changes make to the setup for Xfinity and Trucks.
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    NASCAR Heat 5, the official video game of the world’s most popular stockcar racing series, puts you behind the wheel of these incredible racing machines and challenges you to become the 2020 NASCAR Cup Series champion.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 156

  • @charlescoyner3693
    @charlescoyner3693 4 роки тому +13

    Thanks for always keeping us up to speed. Setup increased my speed and decreased my lap times just like you posted

  • @sodahunter8413
    @sodahunter8413 4 роки тому +22

    I love this! You even go into detail why you do certain things and what to change if you don’t like what’s going on. It’s like school. Input...more input!

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому +3

      Thank you. Glad I could help.

    • @sidneyduncan6829
      @sidneyduncan6829 4 роки тому

      @@KneePitGaming I just tried the qualifying setup it is awesome super fast.

    • @sidneyduncan6829
      @sidneyduncan6829 4 роки тому

      @@KneePitGaming I love to see a nh5 homestead setup

    • @sidneyduncan6829
      @sidneyduncan6829 4 роки тому

      @@KneePitGaming you got any more setups i watched the iowa setup video it was great considering i have never race that track yet

  • @connorsabrosky6245
    @connorsabrosky6245 4 роки тому +12

    Thank you so much I just won my first career cup race in my first career cup start at Talladega in the three star Germain racing #13 car on legend difficulty thank you so much this setup is amazing!

  • @talkinsportswithd.wooten7408
    @talkinsportswithd.wooten7408 3 роки тому +3

    This setup got me my first win as a car owner in the Xfinity in my career

  • @justinhedden8097
    @justinhedden8097 4 роки тому +6

    Great setup. Had me running a 43.050 in race. Started in 40th and did really well with all assists off, playing on legend difficulty, 25% length and x4 wear and fuel consumption.

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому +1

      👍

    • @gabrielanderson6652
      @gabrielanderson6652 4 роки тому

      This wore my rf out too fast

    • @marcelojorge_2006
      @marcelojorge_2006 4 роки тому +1

      @@KneePitGaming In 4x wear the tire blown in 5 laps. What do i have to correct?

    • @ryanwilson5301
      @ryanwilson5301 4 роки тому +1

      @@marcelojorge_2006 don't use 4× wear.

    • @TheMcal9909
      @TheMcal9909 4 роки тому

      @@marcelojorge_2006 Losen the setup a bit and your right tires will wear a bit more evenly. He says in the video what to do if you want to tighten or loosen the setup.

  • @davidjamison8131
    @davidjamison8131 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you Sir for really taking the time and effort to put these videos out! They really help clear up some of the setup issues in the NH5 game. Some numbers dont seem to make sense, but as you know, the sim game here likes to go against the physics of real world applications in some settings.

  • @tcfan008
    @tcfan008 4 роки тому +64

    Love how fast this setup is but the right front tire wear is insane,I blow a tire in like 4 laps. What am I doing wrong ?

    • @NerdyChimera
      @NerdyChimera 4 роки тому +15

      Its the setup. The Camber is WAY too much. Puts undue wear on the right front. You have to increase that right front camber. You'll lose a little right front corner grip and a little speed through the corners. But it's the only way to make a tire last longer than a handful of laps.

    • @johnnydope81
      @johnnydope81 4 роки тому +19

      Think he does a qual set up then a race set up..

    • @pdog3355
      @pdog3355 4 роки тому +21

      You probably put in the qualifying one, at the end is the racing one

    • @robertratcliff5712
      @robertratcliff5712 3 роки тому +3

      @@NerdyChimera the race setup works great on my tires when in the longer races the only difference is how long i can go before i have to pit

  • @brandonostrander2219
    @brandonostrander2219 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this tutorial. I got the game last night and have been 2 seconds slower than the AI... Spent all my preorder money to start a truck team so will be trying this tonight

  • @Krackin513
    @Krackin513 Місяць тому

    Still using these in 2024 thank you lol you are a god

  • @ttvtr4xie367
    @ttvtr4xie367 3 роки тому +1

    Literally just did my first online race with the setup and won ur the man thanks brotha

  • @mindreader09
    @mindreader09 4 місяці тому

    Thank man for taking the time and sharing this. I'm playing with a hand controller with a built in steering wheel. Big improvement but the AI cars beat me up in career mode. Fun

  • @weli1864
    @weli1864 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for this awesome video. You explained what each segment does. So knowledgeable!

  • @wul3391
    @wul3391 Рік тому

    perfect, the only setup that truly worked of all online I found, thank you sir

  • @michaelkilgore8358
    @michaelkilgore8358 3 роки тому +3

    I want to qualify in the top 5 at Daytona and Talladega. I always qualify in the rear of the field.

  • @jamesclements8015
    @jamesclements8015 3 роки тому +1

    Your the best setup channel I watch. Keep it up. Thank you.

  • @MvdL56
    @MvdL56 3 роки тому

    My uncle recommended you to me for custom setups, and they do not disappoint.

  • @Eric-jk8py
    @Eric-jk8py 2 роки тому +2

    Much appreciation for these plug & play setups. Since I'm just starting they have been very helpful. I'd like to ask one question (or maybe more 😎 you didn't say what the steering offset does. Could you explain that? Thanks.

  • @theflashfamily1
    @theflashfamily1 4 роки тому +7

    Love your setups the best I would help promote the channel but love how I’m smoking everyone in Talladega lol.

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому +2

      lol...makes sense.

    • @theflashfamily1
      @theflashfamily1 4 роки тому

      Knee Pit Gaming I appreciate the channel as always gave you major likes.

    • @brandonmccora7622
      @brandonmccora7622 3 роки тому

      Is it the same setup for talledega and Daytona?

  • @Jesusiscominglookup
    @Jesusiscominglookup 10 місяців тому

    Best set up I’ve had

  • @TheApexSaiyan
    @TheApexSaiyan 3 роки тому

    Thank you thank you thank you!! I can NEVER qualify good at Daytona and talladega just qualified 3rd I am normally in the high 20’s to mid 30’s

  • @Mikey.Schrump51
    @Mikey.Schrump51 4 місяці тому

    Hey buddy !!! Do you still race online on Xbox ??? Love the channel to man, the setups run pretty solid online

  • @dantefernandez7107
    @dantefernandez7107 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you! Keep up the good work

  • @TyGuy.3000
    @TyGuy.3000 3 місяці тому

    This setup was so fast but my right front tire always blew after 5 laps and I couldn't figure out how to fix it

  • @kieranshaw2175
    @kieranshaw2175 3 роки тому +1

    So I always qualify anywhere from 35th - 38th at Daytona just on the standard default setup however after using this setup I have just got pole for the first time on a plate track

  • @jeffreytackett3922
    @jeffreytackett3922 2 роки тому +1

    I am confused. I have a maxed out truck, 0 driving aids, complete loose set for no speed loss, I hit 0 walls, 0 curbing, maintain 182 mph through the curves, and I still qualify 31st on Talladega. Wtf?

    • @nrbmemes2414
      @nrbmemes2414 Місяць тому

      NASCAR heat 5 uses the draft times from IRL in their database. You get the non draft times in game.

  • @theintake8961
    @theintake8961 4 роки тому +1

    Love how detailed you are. Great video thanks 👍🏁

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому

      Glad you liked it!

    • @jimmiearegood9029
      @jimmiearegood9029 3 роки тому

      @@KneePitGaming can u help me out with this game just got it .we're do I need go to put set up in

  • @CroweBoCop270
    @CroweBoCop270 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the setup

  • @yuccafarmergaming1479
    @yuccafarmergaming1479 2 роки тому

    Valuable information! Thank you sir

  • @Abamegadon
    @Abamegadon 4 місяці тому

    I know this is an old game, and I probably wont get an answer, but why are there no setup guides for any of the road courses??

  • @nightfall4158
    @nightfall4158 4 роки тому

    I like how you explain the setups.

  • @Eric-jk8py
    @Eric-jk8py 2 роки тому

    Could someone show me a good forum to join to ask or find answers to questions I have about Heat 5? I'm liking the game now that I've found the settings to settle the competitors down a little. Previous to that it was (& still is) a bit frustrating. Thank you Knee Pit for acquainting me with setups to get started. Much appreciated.

  • @shannonhagen4622
    @shannonhagen4622 3 роки тому +1

    How do i stop my car from leaning to the left?

  • @fourzerovi
    @fourzerovi 3 роки тому

    Would you be willing to do a “just getting into NASCAR Heat? This is what the setups do and mean in BEGINNER terms” I would greatly appreciate it 🏁

    • @aaronarmstrong9776
      @aaronarmstrong9776 3 роки тому

      The setup man has a playlist of videos that do a great job.

  • @simonwright4807
    @simonwright4807 3 роки тому

    Hello thanks for your great videos about Nascar. But if I do
    I usually have no chance to qualify against Max Ki. Then use the Tight and Loose setting. Could you make a video where you have good settings for the routes where you simply adjust the car. And roughly explain what a short route and the other best is the simplified setting.

  • @yenoomlekim
    @yenoomlekim Рік тому

    Are you planning releasing setups for the 2022 season of heat 5? I know it is really soon to ask as it was only released 2 days ago.

  • @haterbilt9428
    @haterbilt9428 3 роки тому

    You covered everything different between the 2 setups but I didn't hear you say that you came down on the bump on all 4 shocks by 33% (5 clicks).

  • @jonteague438
    @jonteague438 3 роки тому

    Go watch Ray Dillon's asphalt oval setup on youtube. No offense, but you're claiming a stiffer LR spring tightens the car up. That's backward. Good video quality, tho.

  • @levi6859
    @levi6859 3 роки тому

    I'm a little late to the party. I just got the game a few days ago and I came across your video witch is very good by the way. I just had a question. Do the end results depend on your engine? For example my engine is only 75 and as you can imagine it's kind of frustrating watching cars just blow by you in career mode.

    • @douglasfairbanks1808
      @douglasfairbanks1808 3 роки тому

      That definitely effects it. With an underfunded team you need to grind it out for a while and have lower expectations. I like joining a good team for at least a season to rake up some money before creating my own team.

  • @k-trainproductions6517
    @k-trainproductions6517 4 роки тому +1

    I ran this setup with 3x wear and blew my right front tire in 6 laps

  • @MeTaLFrEaK88
    @MeTaLFrEaK88 2 роки тому

    For me it doesn’t even say anything about setups in the garage

  • @blakehensley9
    @blakehensley9 4 роки тому +1

    Any advice on tightening the race setup? I’ve cranked wedge up and lowered both track bars and I can’t make it through turn 3 on my warmup lap without going completely around.

    • @joshferdogg9107
      @joshferdogg9107 3 роки тому

      Same here, did you ever figure out what to do?

    • @stevenharmon9817
      @stevenharmon9817 3 роки тому

      Did you try increasing the left rear spring to bring to closer to the right side like ex. Like 300 or 350 on left rear spring and 600 on right rear spring?

  • @connorsabrosky6245
    @connorsabrosky6245 4 роки тому

    Subscribed for life!

  • @racerknight99FirstChannel
    @racerknight99FirstChannel 4 роки тому +1

    I Subscribed To Your Aweosme Channel!

  • @shaneglover99
    @shaneglover99 2 роки тому

    Man how do we get to use our career cars against others. Also how can we make numerous saves for different campains

  • @grid898slaughter7
    @grid898slaughter7 3 роки тому

    I'm still trying to get to setups I just got the game a few days ago

  • @kylelenz2645
    @kylelenz2645 5 місяців тому

    Engine keeps blowing?

  • @turtle_rev6354
    @turtle_rev6354 4 роки тому

    Works great!

  • @TiMneR-tx1ys
    @TiMneR-tx1ys 3 роки тому

    found one of the setup vids. I see we can change the wheel lock and steering off set. Do you know if this change alters the main steering setting that when do at the start of the game for calibrating the use of our game pad or wheel for those that use it.

  • @zac.bolin01
    @zac.bolin01 3 роки тому

    Wonder if I could test an RC dirt setup on this game 🤔🤔

  • @thomassmith7617
    @thomassmith7617 3 роки тому

    Setups fast no doubt about it ran against legendary AI in a crappy career mode car an ran a 44 second lap an held with them all race. BUT I could have won but the RF tire keeps wearing out on me way fast what’s the fix?

  • @JPRacing028
    @JPRacing028 Рік тому

    How do you go about getting your custom car on there

  • @theoisaac9948
    @theoisaac9948 4 роки тому

    How you get to car setup, my version I don't have that option/ Sorry never mind found it

  • @alexbrown3887
    @alexbrown3887 4 роки тому

    Mine did not pop up the car setup option

  • @champsgaming1362
    @champsgaming1362 3 роки тому +1

    MY DUMB TEMPS KEEPS GOING UP

  • @str8saucy796
    @str8saucy796 3 роки тому

    Is everything the same for trucks in qualifying?

  • @LoveLaughExplore
    @LoveLaughExplore 3 роки тому

    How to do this for custom car in online mode?

  • @regera6019
    @regera6019 2 роки тому

    Does absolutely nothing for the trucks, same time as before, ai are faster than my top speed and I can’t reach the practice time to progress, this gave me hope.

  • @projectprism1591
    @projectprism1591 4 роки тому

    Are they automatic transmission or manual transmission

  • @ericskinner2039
    @ericskinner2039 3 роки тому

    So in the cup setup, i can't hit 200 in the straights, any suggestions other than getting a wheel lol

  • @basfishermanallyear
    @basfishermanallyear 3 роки тому

    New sub here! keep up the work bro like the like the vids and effort 🤙🏻

  • @MentalGamer-ne8vi
    @MentalGamer-ne8vi 4 роки тому

    Thank u man!

  • @Mrmac79
    @Mrmac79 3 роки тому

    Will these setups work for NH4?

  • @hunterfulghum2193
    @hunterfulghum2193 4 роки тому +1

    Do you use this setup for the race too?

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому

      I show a Q setup and race setup in the video. Very similar but a couple differences for the race.

    • @sidneyduncan6829
      @sidneyduncan6829 4 роки тому

      @@KneePitGaming great video keep more coming.

  • @racegrubb2152
    @racegrubb2152 Рік тому

    There is ine thing that bugs me in this game lol. In a real race car on a oval dropping left front tire pressure while keeping right front the same does not loosen corner entry, it tightnens corner entry. Backwards on this game. Same thing with shocks. Keeping right front the same and lowering left front will tighten entry. Increasing it will lossen entry. Its the total oppsite of the right front. The game has the right front correct but no the left front. They got the rears right but the front is not. Now if you go too far you mess your stagger up and it will do unpredictabke shit.

  • @JusticeJestor2K3
    @JusticeJestor2K3 2 роки тому

    How did you get the car setup ?

  • @mitchsmith7472
    @mitchsmith7472 3 роки тому

    Bro I cant keep the car straight in the corners what is going on

    • @XG-OFFICIAL-59
      @XG-OFFICIAL-59 3 роки тому

      No one can keep straight in the corners at Daytona and Talladega. Completely normal. Unless theres something else going on

  • @JohnJohn-nf6hm
    @JohnJohn-nf6hm 3 роки тому

    I am using this setup and my right front is melting my tire any suggestions??

    • @racegrubb2152
      @racegrubb2152 Рік тому

      Look at your inner, middle, outer tire temps. If the inside temp is way hotter your air pressure is too high. If your right front has very hot inside temp then you have too much negative camber in the right front for race setup. If outer tire temp is hottest on the left front you are running too positive camber in the left front. Problem is probably in one of those areas. Can't have maxed out camber for the race. Your temps across the tire will tell you what you need to do. In a perfect world you want all 3 sections of the tire to be close to the same temp as possible for race setup. Also if you are wearing out the right front way more than the right rear take out some wedge. Less wedge puts more weight on the right rear and left front and takes weight off the right front and left rear which will help right front tire wear. It won't help the left front though. Might make left front wear a little more.

  • @chrishenderson9087
    @chrishenderson9087 4 роки тому

    I don’t see the option to turn DNF’s on or off anywhere within the game. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thx.
    I appreciate your setups. I just hit 45.588 @ 206 mph in two car draft. I hit 45.761 no draft. I can really feel the front downforce disappear when I roll up on another car. Thanks and keep them coming. 👍🏾 Cup. I haven’t tried truck yet.

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому +1

      Good point Chris. I haven't seen anything on DNF's either. Looks like it's time for some investigative work.

    • @robhowe2497
      @robhowe2497 4 роки тому

      The DNF on/off is in the race settings where you set up your draft and difficulty. I turned mine OFF! lol

  • @ifishbass4747
    @ifishbass4747 3 роки тому

    Literally still qualified 40th

  • @EricNorthstar
    @EricNorthstar 4 роки тому

    I don't have the car setup tab on the top right corner. I am unable to setup my cars. How do I get that to appear??

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому +2

      The game disables custom setups when using diving aids. That's the only reason I'm aware of for the option not to show.

  • @girthbrooks4659
    @girthbrooks4659 7 місяців тому

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @securityofficer9483
    @securityofficer9483 4 роки тому

    I want to slightly tighten the race setup just a tad what do you recommend?

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому +1

      Quickest way is to lower the track bar.

  • @mikegrey5663
    @mikegrey5663 3 роки тому

    My times were still slow and I used the same setup in qualifying as you used. Any suggestions?

    • @nunyabeezness6487
      @nunyabeezness6487 3 роки тому +1

      Drive better

    • @mikegrey5663
      @mikegrey5663 3 роки тому

      @@nunyabeezness6487 I have drove just fine ain't even wrecked anyone

  • @supel454
    @supel454 4 роки тому

    I am new and dumb. I don't see an option to even make set ups? How can I get to this?

    • @tcfan008
      @tcfan008 4 роки тому

      You have to be playing on hard or legend driving assist

  • @Kpaine17
    @Kpaine17 4 роки тому

    For some reason I can’t see the option to do my set up in the xfinity series?

    • @illiniryan27
      @illiniryan27 4 роки тому

      Make sure you are on expert difficulty, won't show up otherwise

  • @masterkiller7373
    @masterkiller7373 3 роки тому

    Even though it shows Cup, it's for all series right?

    • @ryanwilson5301
      @ryanwilson5301 3 роки тому

      Yes, just some minor changes between the 3 series. Such as rear end ratio. Xfinity should be about 2.91 and trucks should be about 3.00-3.10

  • @brandonmccora7622
    @brandonmccora7622 3 роки тому

    Same setup for Talledega and Daytona?

  • @kylelooney1339
    @kylelooney1339 4 роки тому

    So you not have to change the setup slightly for each track?

    • @ryanwilson5301
      @ryanwilson5301 3 роки тому

      Between Daytona and Talladega? Not really.

    • @racegrubb2152
      @racegrubb2152 Рік тому

      Yeah not between Daytona and Talladega but between all other tracks setups will be very different from track to track

  • @geomarjr8215
    @geomarjr8215 4 роки тому

    I cant see where to even put in the custom setups i see on youtube and mine from NH4. Where do i go? Even in the test section i dont get the option to do them like i did in NH4

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому

      If you don't see the option to use custom setups then it could be because of driving aids.

    • @geomarjr8215
      @geomarjr8215 4 роки тому

      I uninstalled and then reinstalled the game. Still dont see any spot to do the setups. I dont even get the standard Tight or Loose default setting for it. I never use and driving aides. I am wondering if its a bug of some sort since it was a digital preorder. Thanks for your help on this as well as i want to thank you for your video content. Very informative and helpful.

    • @TCade9
      @TCade9 4 роки тому

      Make sure your AI difficulty is above 95

  • @hoopstv2818
    @hoopstv2818 4 роки тому

    my car is over heating for no reason :(

  • @BanditJustice
    @BanditJustice 4 роки тому

    Where do you end up after qualifying in all 3 series?

    • @KneePitGaming
      @KneePitGaming  4 роки тому

      At the front

    • @BanditJustice
      @BanditJustice 4 роки тому

      Just tried your Q trim setup in the truck and can't run no faster than a 49.1

    • @TCade9
      @TCade9 4 роки тому

      Cup at Dega won the pole by .02 and I messed up my line

    • @ryanwilson5301
      @ryanwilson5301 4 роки тому

      @@BanditJustice the quality of your equipment matters alot too.

  • @tankydavis350
    @tankydavis350 4 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @tallesqueiroz7419
    @tallesqueiroz7419 3 роки тому

    Boa noite. Comecei a jogar Nascar agora e no meu não estou conseguindo encontrar o setup do carro. Poderia me ajudar onde modificar na configuração????

  • @MrSh48e
    @MrSh48e 4 роки тому

    Been playing this game for two weeks .... never seen this screen

    • @iamcodywilliams
      @iamcodywilliams 4 роки тому

      before you start the race you have to set it up first. before a race it says car setup in the top right corner. press the button it tells you and then scroll to custom race setup.

  • @simshadyhagrmfchevy3908
    @simshadyhagrmfchevy3908 4 роки тому

    Say it with me slllloooowww setups

  • @redroom4117
    @redroom4117 3 роки тому +1

    How do you manage to yap for 15 minutes about a damn setup

  • @dzamadzama_llama4536
    @dzamadzama_llama4536 2 роки тому

    Jesus loves y’all

  • @Jaysequipment8492
    @Jaysequipment8492 2 роки тому

    Disliked this setup is to loose

  • @xWORLDxCHAMPIONx
    @xWORLDxCHAMPIONx 2 роки тому

    God superspeedways are so broken on this shit pile of a game.

  • @jameshopkins8415
    @jameshopkins8415 2 роки тому

    Tyyttztz

  • @combatgaming3266
    @combatgaming3266 3 роки тому

    Totally useless got worse off

  • @kissthefox9141
    @kissthefox9141 4 роки тому

    Career mode is broken. Car setups do not take effect.

    • @darlenehobson1815
      @darlenehobson1815 4 роки тому

      Mine work just fine

    • @truckstop4873
      @truckstop4873 4 роки тому

      Did you save the settings before you went on track?

    • @ryanwilson5301
      @ryanwilson5301 4 роки тому

      You also have to consider the equipment quality. If you're driving for a 3 star team, this setup will not put up front as it would driving for a 5 star team.