And she said with a straight face "So if anyone has any complaints they need to take them to the police, still you know, we are accountable to the police"
@nookienookiebattiebottie3531Have you unwittingly joined a cult and can't help spitting out meaningless slogans to certain stimuli? Do you even realise that Labour weren't in power during the original alleged offence or the secret deal?
This predates two tier kier . It started as soon as the peelers formed. The law is there to protect the rich. All those folk that were jailed because Nigel started the riots. Nigel didn't get into trouble did he.
Warwickshire Hunt have members who are serving police officers in Warwickshire. The secret deal was about not leaking police misconduct from Warwickshire police force.
Thank you to Mr Alex Thomson and the producers at C4 for open and honest reportage. But most of all thanks to the magnificent Cathy and her fearless, determined comrades in the unstoppable West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs! ( Don't hold your breath for this appearing anytime soon on the bbc).
By far the most disturbing part is the criminal intimidation of the member of parliament who's looking into this. That should carry serious prison time. Maybe the national crime agency need to get involved, if local police have been corrupted
The Warwickshire Police SHOULD enforce the Law without fear or favor, and should always operate as NO ONE is above the Law. But 'secret deal' dramas show that among Senior Policing in ANY Police Force shows there is a point of view among them that there ARE some people due to their connections whom ARE above the Law, and Senior Police are willing to aid and abet them in ignoring the Law.
Well done C4 - we've been trying to get something done about this corruption for years!! This "hunt" really thinks it is above the law, the cheif constable is firmly in with these criminals.
They bring their kids to watch the violence and celebrate killing with smearing blood. Vile people. Working class get their kids took off em wen they witness violence at home. These get full police protection just like the rest of the oligarchs in UK.
And people pretend the UK is a free country? The same landowning slime who ruled our ancestors still own this country and are essentially immune to the same law that dictate our lives - and yet you expect the law to applied to them equally?? The British public are so used to being treated as subjects rather than citizens that they will just continue to allow this every time. It's sad.
That's why people have started suing police directly. They keep getting court being corrupt, now that people have phones that record in high quality and have decent battery life
How on earth can there be a "deal" between the police and a large group of people continously breaking the law? Do the Warwickshire police make a "deal" with the burgelers, shoplifters, people who commit violent crimes and child abusers as well? Utterly outrageous that ANY deal is made with these blood thirsty criminals and how dare the Warwickshire police keep secrets from the public, who they are supposed to be honest and transparent with.
The police forces of this country claim to be concerned about public trust in them. But time after time. This very same thing happens. The police look after the toffs. And cover up the wrong doing that they do in the process. Scandals like this would not be a big deal if something was actually done about it.
2004 this was made illegal. How is this still going on 20 years later? Oh yeah, these posh pricks can buy off the pigs. Just a shame that some animals can't look after others
@@cjay8163 Well, do you have time to ''enjoy'' some fox hunts after your 35-50 hour job? No? Then yes, these are entitled, cut-off from reality descendants of some aristocracy in the area. Posh pricks indeed. Personally I have no issues with their wealth or class. I do have issues with their cruelty, anti-social behaviour and corruption.
I live on hunt land. Some times 3 week. A few hunts share the land. One as banned from it's original home for killing a field full of lamas. Another came here after killing two dogs on a public footpath. They are trial hunting. In the morning a guy on quad lays the trial. Then the hunt turns up. We stay in untill they've gone before we walk. Most times we come across bits of fox. I asked them to at least clean up. They don't. They are rich p... . But we also poor p... Killing squirrels, buzzard crows and badgers.
@PlutoPhobia-y7r you're lieing, a field full of lamas? Killed them all? Killed two dogs on a footpath? Have you got the press articles for this? Hounds are puppy walked in homes to expose them to livestock, other dogs and people, you're just making it up
Superb reporting Alex. Keep pushing sir. The level of corruption is astonishing. Please end this barbarism and expose the cruelty & bent cops. Get them in court and get them sacked or if retired already get their pensions stopped.
I’m sure that those who have been crying about two tier policing for the past few months will be up in arms about this? I think not…. Shocking behaviour from this police force
I managed to stop a massive hunt on farm land , stopped a family of foxes being shot or wripped apart. By the hounds. Back in 2018. Chased a quad bike part of the hunt who had a fox in the box he realised it after me running across 2 fields, after an hr of watching them chit chat they we're gone. They seem like the same group i stopped years ago
@cjay8163 how do you know? You wasn't there was you? I was. It was around the time time of year in 2018 and the foxes we're being taught how to catch chickens. for food for they're young! If you'd understand how a large hunt works one which isn't legal and they also didn't occupy with the local farms of theyre presence, meaning its not right and unfair on the wildlife. Local residents farmers. Farmers are the soul to the country they provide our produce, and small businesses. We need farms we need wildlife we need produce to feed everyone everywhere. Families of the country
@hvitserk-x6g your lieing again, foxes don't "teach" their young to catch chickens, hunting is instinctive. By the autumn young foxes are independent and disperse to establish their own territorys. If as you say you support farmers, then if they were killing chickens, the farmers livestock then its a pretty good reason to control them? If this actually happened, which it didn't..
@@cjay8163 I'm not lying at all. You believe your opinion. Foxes do hunt on initiative that's why they we're out hunting for chickens. This hunt is illegal it was unannounced in the area at the time of 2018. If it was legit theyd inform the local area. Which they didn't, foxes nature instinct to hunt for food. They shouldn't be shot or wripped apart by ammunition or hounds!! Especially caged on a rear quad bike
@@cjay8163 no not lying. And yes foxes to hunt on initiative that's why they're was a family of them being hunted down, which is unfair. The hunt didn't make the locals aware of they're presence meaning they have no right to hunt, hunting should be banned! foxes naturally should hunt for food for they're cubs
The leaders who made this crooked deal are not the ones who wear the uniforms. Uniformed police would never go along with something like this unless pressure is applied from the top.
Well done, once again Channel 4.The hunters day they only trail hunt but the truth is there for anyone who is able to watch and record what happens, time and time again. MRH
Put Hunters in jail . Why police keep it out seriously? Hunters are above the Law . They are believing upper classe never go to justice . Wild behavior it is cover up from sport.
Okay, there needs to be a massive increase in SABs in that area to tackle the crime that the police can’t . It seems the police need a hand so I guess the SABs need to do that . They don’t need to thank them or anything. .
This is the irony of whining about two tier Kier when these disgusting blood ‘sport’ Establishment toffs can get away with murder. The sense of entitlement amongst these privileged prats and the land owning ‘farmers’ is breath taking. They make me sick to the core.
Corrupted to the core, who you know, not what you know. Only one reason to let them carry on, MONEY! In favours of jobs, hard cash and favours. Royal/aristocratic bully's breaking the law with impunity from the police.
@@cjay8163because it's a barbaric, medieval activity undertaken by entitled psychopaths who have proven time and again that they don't give a toss about anything but slaking their bloodthirst, and think they're above the law.
We already have low biodiversity. All the large predators are gone, the wolves are gone, the bears gone, lynxes gone. The difference is that those animals weren't made extinct for fun. T_@ts on horseback
"He's a member of the pro hunting countryside alliance. They said he was too busy to see us, minutes later they said he wasnt there". Its like something from a carry on😂
Wow, that’s much more formal than I had ever imagined. And how’s it even legal and being protected by the legal establishment. These lawbreakers are now dictating to us what laws are to be upheld. In what society is that just!? I know it won’t ever happen but there needs to be convictions and custodial sentences for this.
The role of police is to serve and protect the status quo. It's hardly surprising that a society with centuries of class based elitism would result in an outcome like this. The social and economic conditions in Britain are ripe for a revolution. But so few Brits have the necessary mental and physical health , it seems unlikely to happen.
Has Channel 4 News only just discovered that there’s two-tier policing? Funny how it’s worth taking seriously only when your side is on the wrong end of it.
Channel 4, come and interview me and listen to recordings of my interactions with West Midlands police this year. Due to severe mental health issues of someone close to me, I’ve had to interact with the police 14 times this year. I have been swore at for no reason, blatantly lied to, and relentlessly let down, the person I speak of has had their door kicked in with no explanation. No faith in the police, nor the NHS for that matter, although I will add, I have come across many kind people when dealing with the NHS this year, not their fault the system is collapsing. Police though, different matter, despicable, untrustworthy people.
@@stephenholmes1036 "independent" yer sure you are I've read all your other pro tory comments on here, funny how you forget 14 years of Tory LIES and imposing the highest tax burden on the worker and PENSIONERS with a small private pension ever
It would also be interesting to see what links between the police officers and any organisations that both the hunting seniors may or may not have. Friends always look after each other and turn a blind eye.
The English police being corrupt?.....Never
Everything has a price
@@utubebroadcasterwould the police ever investigate the millions of murders committed in The NHS?
What a waster of police time and focus. They should be policing pronouns and HURTY-TWEETIES for lefties
😂😂😂😂😂
Corruption, needs an open transparent public inquiry.
What a waster of police time and focus. They should be policing pronouns and HURTY-TWEETIES for lefties
That woman blatantly lied that they are trail hunting. I am not sure how they can still think people will be fooled by that
And she said with a straight face "So if anyone has any complaints they need to take them to the police, still you know, we are accountable to the police"
What evidence do you have?
This is the real 2 tier Policing problem
2 tier Kier
No. Read the comment, the opposite of that cariacature@nookienookiebattiebottie3531
@nookienookiebattiebottie3531Have you unwittingly joined a cult and can't help spitting out meaningless slogans to certain stimuli? Do you even realise that Labour weren't in power during the original alleged offence or the secret deal?
This predates two tier kier . It started as soon as the peelers formed. The law is there to protect the rich. All those folk that were jailed because Nigel started the riots. Nigel didn't get into trouble did he.
Exactly!
Corrupt cops protecting their friends.
Ahhh, the best way
What a waster of police time and focus. They should be policing pronouns and HURTY-TWEETIES for lefties
Warwickshire Hunt have members who are serving police officers in Warwickshire. The secret deal was about not leaking police misconduct from Warwickshire police force.
Rich people not obeying the law of the land with the support of the Police.
They own the Land
they're landowners , judges and powerful people . Most officers are scared to try as the Police are the protectors of the elite
So what's new???
@@inklingofaneye. So owning the land gives you immunity from the law ?
@californiadreamin8423 short answer : yes
Thank you to Mr Alex Thomson and the producers at C4 for open and honest reportage. But most of all thanks to the magnificent Cathy and her fearless, determined comrades in the unstoppable West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs! ( Don't hold your breath for this appearing anytime soon on the bbc).
By far the most disturbing part is the criminal intimidation of the member of parliament who's looking into this.
That should carry serious prison time. Maybe the national crime agency need to get involved, if local police have been corrupted
Head of NCA has a long history of corruption
That is shocking
The Warwickshire Police SHOULD enforce the Law without fear or favor, and should always operate as NO ONE is above the Law. But 'secret deal' dramas show that among Senior Policing in ANY Police Force shows there is a point of view among them that there ARE some people due to their connections whom ARE above the Law, and Senior Police are willing to aid and abet them in ignoring the Law.
"Please don't chase me" The irony of that coming from Debbie Tedds.
a former Chief
Well done C4 - we've been trying to get something done about this corruption for years!! This "hunt" really thinks it is above the law, the cheif constable is firmly in with these criminals.
Corruption goes to the top
no ?! 😮
It comes from the top.
What other secret deals are there between police and organised lawbreakers...?
Good question
Israeli government?
An organised crime group policed by an organised crime group.
Major police corruption bringing shame to the uniform. - yet again...
These 'hunters' need to get a hobby that's actually a hobby and not just pure cruelty. Boggles my mind how anyone can enjoy that
They bring their kids to watch the violence and celebrate killing with smearing blood. Vile people. Working class get their kids took off em wen they witness violence at home. These get full police protection just like the rest of the oligarchs in UK.
Hereditary psychopathy, it's how the rich made their wealth.
Just ban the whole haunting concept. Even disguising it as trail hunting should be banned.
Using a pack of dogs to rip apart another animal and claiming to be civilised
The public allow their dogs to do this every day of every year - off lead and zero control! Nesting season et al, livestock etc …
@@davideddy2672 total whataboutism from a bootlicker for the toffs
@@davideddy2672 That's a different issue
@@davideddy2672 what's that got to do with it?
Whoa. This is why we go through a cycle of edging closer to trusting police... only for them to prove why they don't deserve it.
And people pretend the UK is a free country? The same landowning slime who ruled our ancestors still own this country and are essentially immune to the same law that dictate our lives - and yet you expect the law to applied to them equally?? The British public are so used to being treated as subjects rather than citizens that they will just continue to allow this every time. It's sad.
Is this about hunts, or your perceived class hatred and envy?
@@cjay8163better the latter, there are far more workers in the country than there are vegans
@@cjay8163 Nothing "perceived" about it, the ruling class are scum and have always been
Free for the well connected. Restricted for others.
@@cjay8163, how many foxes have you killed this weekend?
Well done Channel 4 for investigating and reporting on this.
" If you have any complaints the go to the police "...... because they wont do anything.
That's why people have started suing police directly. They keep getting court being corrupt, now that people have phones that record in high quality and have decent battery life
Money and influence
For the right amount, the police will look the other way
@@utubebroadcaster especially with the right school tie, handshake and membership of the right clubs.
Should be brought up in PMQ's.
What starmer 🥴
How on earth can there be a "deal" between the police and a large group of people continously breaking the law?
Do the Warwickshire police make a "deal" with the burgelers, shoplifters, people who commit violent crimes and child abusers as well?
Utterly outrageous that ANY deal is made with these blood thirsty criminals and how dare the Warwickshire police keep secrets from the public, who they are supposed to be honest and transparent with.
The police forces of this country claim to be concerned about public trust in them. But time after time. This very same thing happens. The police look after the toffs. And cover up the wrong doing that they do in the process. Scandals like this would not be a big deal if something was actually done about it.
2004 this was made illegal. How is this still going on 20 years later? Oh yeah, these posh pricks can buy off the pigs. Just a shame that some animals can't look after others
Trail hunting is not illegal. How do you know they are all "posh pricks"? Is this about your perceived class hatred and envy more than foxes?
@@cjay8163 Envy of what? Owning a horse and being inbred?
@@cjay8163 Well, do you have time to ''enjoy'' some fox hunts after your 35-50 hour job? No? Then yes, these are entitled, cut-off from reality descendants of some aristocracy in the area. Posh pricks indeed. Personally I have no issues with their wealth or class. I do have issues with their cruelty, anti-social behaviour and corruption.
I live on hunt land. Some times 3 week. A few hunts share the land. One as banned from it's original home for killing a field full of lamas. Another came here after killing two dogs on a public footpath. They are trial hunting. In the morning a guy on quad lays the trial. Then the hunt turns up. We stay in untill they've gone before we walk. Most times we come across bits of fox. I asked them to at least clean up. They don't.
They are rich p... . But we also poor p... Killing squirrels, buzzard crows and badgers.
@PlutoPhobia-y7r you're lieing, a field full of lamas? Killed them all? Killed two dogs on a footpath? Have you got the press articles for this? Hounds are puppy walked in homes to expose them to livestock, other dogs and people, you're just making it up
.... Corruption with sociopaths.
That woman speaks with a forked tongue
Superb reporting Alex. Keep pushing sir. The level of corruption is astonishing. Please end this barbarism and expose the cruelty & bent cops. Get them in court and get them sacked or if retired already get their pensions stopped.
Alex is a true hero and national treasure. Top guy
I’m sure that those who have been crying about two tier policing for the past few months will be up in arms about this? I think not….
Shocking behaviour from this police force
I wonder if the Conservative MP for Stratford on Avon at the time knew about this? He is a keen fox hunter. Just saying
The second good question I’ve seen here
Abolish all hunting
We should ban all car driving too, because there's a percentage that speed and drink drive and break the law 👍🏻
well i never, who'd have thought it, two tier justice system, the establishment and the rest.
Where is Reform in protesting this blatant example of 2 tier policing.
Not surprised one bit - excellent reporting from C4.
I managed to stop a massive hunt on farm land , stopped a family of foxes being shot or wripped apart. By the hounds. Back in 2018. Chased a quad bike part of the hunt who had a fox in the box he realised it after me running across 2 fields, after an hr of watching them chit chat they we're gone. They seem like the same group i stopped years ago
Thats a lie, foxes do not live in "families" they are largely solitary particularly in winter territory and home ranges.
@cjay8163 how do you know? You wasn't there was you? I was. It was around the time time of year in 2018 and the foxes we're being taught how to catch chickens. for food for they're young! If you'd understand how a large hunt works one which isn't legal and they also didn't occupy with the local farms of theyre presence, meaning its not right and unfair on the wildlife. Local residents farmers. Farmers are the soul to the country they provide our produce, and small businesses. We need farms we need wildlife we need produce to feed everyone everywhere. Families of the country
@hvitserk-x6g your lieing again, foxes don't "teach" their young to catch chickens, hunting is instinctive. By the autumn young foxes are independent and disperse to establish their own territorys.
If as you say you support farmers, then if they were killing chickens, the farmers livestock then its a pretty good reason to control them? If this actually happened, which it didn't..
@@cjay8163 I'm not lying at all. You believe your opinion. Foxes do hunt on initiative that's why they we're out hunting for chickens. This hunt is illegal it was unannounced in the area at the time of 2018. If it was legit theyd inform the local area. Which they didn't, foxes nature instinct to hunt for food. They shouldn't be shot or wripped apart by ammunition or hounds!! Especially caged on a rear quad bike
@@cjay8163 no not lying. And yes foxes to hunt on initiative that's why they're was a family of them being hunted down, which is unfair. The hunt didn't make the locals aware of they're presence meaning they have no right to hunt, hunting should be banned! foxes naturally should hunt for food for they're cubs
Imagine police having guts to go after the rich
I can't.
They wanted anonymity before speaking. What are they afraid of?
@@coppershark1973mark my words there would be repercussions against them.
Rich people above the law again.
If the brown envelope is thick enough police don't see any crime.
good to know !
Criminals in uniform
The leaders who made this crooked deal are not the ones who wear the uniforms.
Uniformed police would never go along with something like this unless pressure is applied from the top.
@@RichardFraser-y9t the bosses all wear uniforms. The plod do whatever they are told. They never cross the thin blue line.
Criminals in aprons and gloves
_The English country gentleman galloping after the fox - the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable._ (Oscar Wilde)
You are very naive if you think the police are not totally corrupt.
Complete and utter hunts
Imagine the police would make a deal with the mafia "Yeah, you can sell drugs here, just keep a low profile ..."
Well done, once again Channel 4.The hunters day they only trail hunt but the truth is there for anyone who is able to watch and record what happens, time and time again.
MRH
Fair play to the police for speaking out.👍🇬🇧
Some of those that work forces are the same that hunt foxes
Put Hunters in jail . Why police keep it out seriously? Hunters are above the Law . They are believing upper classe never go to justice . Wild behavior it is cover up from sport.
Okay, there needs to be a massive increase in SABs in that area to tackle the crime that the police can’t . It seems the police need a hand so I guess the SABs need to do that . They don’t need to thank them or anything.
.
Are the senior officers in the same lodge as the hunt personnel and supporters?
Corrupt Police shocker
This is the irony of whining about two tier Kier when these disgusting blood ‘sport’ Establishment
toffs can get away with murder. The sense of entitlement amongst these privileged prats and the land owning ‘farmers’ is breath taking.
They make me sick to the core.
Corrupted to the core, who you know, not what you know. Only one reason to let them carry on, MONEY! In favours of jobs, hard cash and favours. Royal/aristocratic bully's breaking the law with impunity from the police.
3:51 _"please don't chase me"_ said the fox to the toff.
The various Police forces have been selectively enforcing laws for a long time now. The Warwickshire Hunt scenario is a very minor example.
DISGUSTING
If you believe they are trail hunting I've got some sand to sell you
Hunts should be disbanded.
Why should they be disbanded? Should we ban all car driving because a certain number of drivers break the law?
@@cjay8163Cars serve a purpose, hunting for sport doesn't.
@@cjay8163also driving isn’t illegal
@@cjay8163because it's a barbaric, medieval activity undertaken by entitled psychopaths who have proven time and again that they don't give a toss about anything but slaking their bloodthirst, and think they're above the law.
Actual ‘two tier policing’.
We already have low biodiversity. All the large predators are gone, the wolves are gone, the bears gone, lynxes gone. The difference is that those animals weren't made extinct for fun. T_@ts on horseback
"He's a member of the pro hunting countryside alliance. They said he was too busy to see us, minutes later they said he wasnt there". Its like something from a carry on😂
'The deal isn't secret, just legally confidential'. Warwickshire police really think we are idiots, don't they.
Glad these officers are speaking out!
Secret deals and charges just disappear? Hmmmm… sounds like the opposite of justice
They are not trailhunting but foxes, which is a crime we need to jail some of them.
Some people (relatively wealthy, with friends in high places - if not in high places themselves) above the law? Surely not, Inspector Blindeye?
What is the difference between confidentiality and secrecy?
they are spelled differently and live in different parts of the dictionary
@@stephenwalker2924 ah, that's it
5:43 well that lady was very convincing…
Always has and always will be that super wealthy have the power and the control to do whatever they want.
What evidence do you have that people who hunt are all super wealthy?
@@cjay8163 they’re not, there are the wealthy ones on the horses and the poor bootlicking Baldrics running on foot tugging their forelocks
Two tier policing in action
2 teir policing anyone?
Leave the foxes alone!
🦊❤
The police are told what to do my the rich and government 😢
Police officers moaning about people who are above the law, oh the irony 😂😂
Wow, that’s much more formal than I had ever imagined. And how’s it even legal and being protected by the legal establishment. These lawbreakers are now dictating to us what laws are to be upheld. In what society is that just!? I know it won’t ever happen but there needs to be convictions and custodial sentences for this.
Do the hunt pay for the police presence? Like football clubs have to.
Drones will provide all the evidence required for a successful prosecution.
Masons
Whats new, the rich can break the law, the poor cant. Its always been the same.
They should have their freemason membership revoked for drawing attention to the network by not thinking through the consequences of their deal
The role of police is to serve and protect the status quo. It's hardly surprising that a society with centuries of class based elitism would result in an outcome like this. The social and economic conditions in Britain are ripe for a revolution. But so few Brits have the necessary mental and physical health , it seems unlikely to happen.
Has Channel 4 News only just discovered that there’s two-tier policing? Funny how it’s worth taking seriously only when your side is on the wrong end of it.
Scary...
The police will mark their own homework, again, and find no wrongdoing, again.
I thought line of duty was exaggeration until I saw this.
Channel 4. Try looking into grooming gangs and police turning a blind eye. Bit more important that this.
maybe to you but i put wild life before people other then my family any day of the week
The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable!
Oscar Wilde
Not one comment complaining about “two tier” policing 🤔
Yes there is ❤🎉
Channel 4, come and interview me and listen to recordings of my interactions with West Midlands police this year. Due to severe mental health issues of someone close to me, I’ve had to interact with the police 14 times this year. I have been swore at for no reason, blatantly lied to, and relentlessly let down, the person I speak of has had their door kicked in with no explanation. No faith in the police, nor the NHS for that matter, although I will add, I have come across many kind people when dealing with the NHS this year, not their fault the system is collapsing. Police though, different matter, despicable, untrustworthy people.
I smell Tories
I smell labour cutting pensioners fuel allowance, taxing tbeir pensions, lying time and time again and im independent
@@stephenholmes1036 What does that have to do with a secret deal between Warwickshire police and an Organised Crime Gang?
I smell Labour and their two tier policing
@@stephenholmes1036 yer sure your independent and also a born LIAR
@@stephenholmes1036 "independent" yer sure you are I've read all your other pro tory comments on here, funny how you forget 14 years of Tory LIES and imposing the highest tax burden on the worker and PENSIONERS with a small private pension ever
Well done Alex. This OCG need to be dealt with.
Still hunting 😢
You mean Criminal Activity at your home !!!
And nothing gets done.
Now you now what it's like for the working classes.....
Reporter: Do you think you should apologize for this?
Commissioner: To who and for what
Need I say more?
Please don't chase me is ironic from a fox hunter supporter
It would also be interesting to see what links between the police officers and any organisations that both the hunting seniors may or may not have. Friends always look after each other and turn a blind eye.
Hand Shake culture.
I really dont like liars and those that practise double standards...you will get yours
Hearing the police say they need to enforce laws equally is a bit laughable.