KA-BAR D2 Extreme knife review

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  • @edl653
    @edl653 Місяць тому +2

    The K-Bar made today, original design, are exactly the same as those made during WWII. They were a multipurpose knife as you can't expect a soldier to carry multiple knives. Lastly it was designed for mass production and at the end of WWII, we had warehouse full of them so the company sold off excess materials to other companies and the US didn't have to procure more knives for over 20 years.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Місяць тому

      @@edl653 People have no idea how great of a hunting knife it is

  • @ronalddunne3413
    @ronalddunne3413 Рік тому +6

    Carried the original USMC for a year or so in the early 1970's. Was pleased to replace it with a Buck 120, better steel and balance. I do like the serrations, very useful on ropes and boxes... Always a joy to watch you throw a blade..

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +3

      The 120 doesn't have better steel as much as it has better heat treat. Buck does an amazing job. Good choice you made

  • @AngloProtestant
    @AngloProtestant Рік тому +2

    Just found your channel. Awesome review of the knife. I'm just getting into knives and I'm buying this one as my first knife. Thanks for showing it in use.

  • @BushcraftWoodsDevil
    @BushcraftWoodsDevil Рік тому +6

    My wife has a really old KA-BAR that belonged to her Dad [USAF], and the tang appears to be peened where it emerges from the buttcap. The pin thing seems weak and a production shortcut. Seen one of these in a movie, THE HUNTED with Tommie Lee Jones.

  • @stefanklaus1652
    @stefanklaus1652 Рік тому +1

    i love your reviews my Brother, they are one of the best reviews i know...love you Fam

  • @Immortalized1
    @Immortalized1 Рік тому +2

    Killed-A-Bear knives are good for certain tasks… just picked up the USSF Ka-Bar; pumped up to get my space knife soon 👍🏼

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      I have that one. While its the same as any other KA-BAR, I like it better

    • @Israeli_Prince
      @Israeli_Prince Рік тому

      You mean Killed-A-Bastardnazi

  • @davidneal6920
    @davidneal6920 Рік тому +1

    I like your description of a combat utility knife. I have never owned a KBAR but they do look like great hunting knives. Not too expensive and a nice (sort of) Bowie style (?). One of my fav hunting blades is a SOG Navy Seal 2000 combat utility. Thanks for sharing Bro 🇺🇸 🍁 🇨🇦 🇳🇿

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      The Bowie shaped clip point is the best part of the KA-BAR

  • @CalvinMorris-cf8jk
    @CalvinMorris-cf8jk Рік тому +1

    brings back the good old days. thanks dbad.

  • @knifedelights7473
    @knifedelights7473 Рік тому +2

    The original utility or fighting knife was based off of the Marbles' "Ideal" model hunting knife. Marbles was the first to use stacked leather handles, and their design was copied by cutlery companies world-wide. Thanks for your review, Donnie.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      That is correct. And it all started when the US bought a Remington knife factory. The original USN blades were just rebranded Rems

  • @bladetherapy3797
    @bladetherapy3797 Рік тому +1

    Just got the kabar 1214 black kraton handle partially serrated and I love it so far, great info, thanks for the history was very interesting! ONLY thing I disagree with is the comments on the terrible balance, mine has balance spot just behind the guard bout quarter inch down the handle which I think makes it super balanced and fast in the turns ya know?

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      As a fighting blade, that POB adds no power to the strike. t
      Terrible for that purpose, but I still love them as hunting knives

  • @baileycooper5616
    @baileycooper5616 Рік тому +1

    One of my favorite knives that I own

  • @Shooter11B
    @Shooter11B Рік тому +1

    Hands down the best of this type are the Western WW2 8" fighting knives (unfortunately no longer made). It is longer, thicker, virtually "full tang", and suitable for the intended use of the Ka-Bar. Fighting, utility, survival. Most of the time the blade bends sideways at the handle or the handle bends before the tang breaks. The ONLY thing to really consider when purchasing a knife is "does it make me look cool or badass?" LOL.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      The Western design is better than this one, but my dbad War Machine eats 'em both up

    • @Shooter11B
      @Shooter11B Рік тому +1

      @@DonnieBAllDay HANDS DOWN no question.

  • @audreyazwell
    @audreyazwell Рік тому +1

    HA bro no way I literally just bought this like 20 mins ago and wanted to watch some videos on it, I should've known you'd have one lol I got that Microtech Combat Troodon for my combat/self-defense knife and this one as my survival "everything else" knife. Killer/Perfect review as usual!
    BTW I wanted to add: I have a theory as to why some people experience their tang breaking - they're probably counterfeit and not a real Ka-Bar! Apparently it's a commonly counterfeited knife and I'm willing to bet they bought it from a non-reputable place like Amazon. To clarify what I mean, I've heard people will buy a real one from Amazon and then return a knock-off back to them which goes totally unnoticed and right back on the "shelf" to be sold again. It's the only thing I can think of that explains the vast difference in peoples experience in that regard! So to anyone reading this: BUY FROM REPUTABLE STORES/SITES!
    Thanks again man, IMO you're the best knife reviewer on UA-cam (my "opinion" in this case being an objective fact lol).
    Till next time!

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +2

      KA-BAR for some reason makes their stick tangs at 90 degree angles. A terrible design flaw. When they break, that's generally where and generally why.

    • @audreyazwell
      @audreyazwell Рік тому +1

      @@DonnieBAllDay that's fair I'm just surprised to hear some people say theirs break that way because I've seen people jam them into trees and jump on the handles haha
      Maybe a quality control issue? 🤔

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      @@audreyazwell Some just temper better. You can't see weap spots with the eye, so its always a crap shoot

  • @AlexeyDnepr
    @AlexeyDnepr 10 місяців тому +3

    If you wave your hand, does the knife rattle in its sheath?

  • @TinmansCorner
    @TinmansCorner Рік тому +1

    Love the knife review, but I still love you war machine design a little bit more. Say I have a recommendation on some knives for you to review. 1. Gil Hibben Arizona Bowie, 2. The JB Electric Bowie from KHHI and 3. The Hunter's Companion Bowie from Windlass Steelcraft's (If you can find one).

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      I'm not big on the Hibben AZ tang and the JB is kind of a copy of my dbad OEF Defender. I need to look up the Windlass

    • @TinmansCorner
      @TinmansCorner Рік тому +1

      @@DonnieBAllDay The Windlass Hunters companion was discontinued so you might get lucky finding it on Ebay. I didn't know that the JB Electric bowie was the same as your design.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      @@TinmansCorner its close

  • @johnbelmore1178
    @johnbelmore1178 8 місяців тому +2

    Lol I love your honesty

  • @jimslasercreations2221
    @jimslasercreations2221 Рік тому +2

    Donnie, bro totally loved this video, love hate here to, can find uses for just about any knife 🔪 whether it was meant for it or not lol, quick question, what tree is fatwood, I see Brian from Survival On Purpose using it all the time. I live in Oklahoma so I don't know if it grows here or not. Take care bro and keep up the great videos 📹.

    • @jeffreybarton1297
      @jeffreybarton1297 Рік тому +1

      Hi, Pine trees are considered the best for fatwood, but other trees like Spruce and Ceder can be good too.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      Sappy trees give you that sweet amber

    • @jimslasercreations2221
      @jimslasercreations2221 Рік тому +2

      Thanks guys, 👍 👌 👍 👌 great help

  • @generaldisarray3830
    @generaldisarray3830 Рік тому +1

    Sup Donny B? It's looks alright but in Australia they sell it for 250 plus, I might stick with the beckers, looking at the bk9

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      BK9 is great, but not with the stock scales. Pay for the micarta ones and you'll love it forever

    • @generaldisarray3830
      @generaldisarray3830 Рік тому +2

      @@DonnieBAllDay I've got the bk16 with azwelke kydex, great little knife, keen to get the micarta scales though

    • @generaldisarray3830
      @generaldisarray3830 Рік тому

      @@DonnieBAllDay the jarosz turok is an awesome knife aswell, great sheath aswell

  • @pistolpete4991
    @pistolpete4991 Рік тому +2

    That’s an awesome combat knife! My great grandma in her combat boots took out a fighter jet with it! 🤪

  • @nugga7867
    @nugga7867 3 місяці тому +2

    Hey which combat knife do you recommend? That look aesthetically similiar to the ka bar.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  3 місяці тому

      It seems my responses got erased. dbad War Machine

  • @blindowl-bushcraft-survival
    @blindowl-bushcraft-survival Рік тому +1

    i love the new guard

  • @christianperez8859
    @christianperez8859 11 місяців тому +2

    Lol the look after he said nuts in my mouth😂😂😂

  • @jatt4784
    @jatt4784 Рік тому +1

    I carry the Kabar on a baldric 24/7.
    Actually prefer the pommel, it balances well for comfort.
    No other 7" blade under 11.5oz with that much consistency.
    Best knife is the one you have.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      I cant say theres no other similar makes that can equal in performance, but I can 100% agree, best one is whats on you

    • @jatt4784
      @jatt4784 Рік тому +1

      I have to carry a self defense/blessing food knife for religious reasons anyway.
      A second blade like the OEF defender or war machine makes a lot of sense vs an e tool.
      Ontario knives have horrible sheaths and esse is expensive. A kabar pinch gripped right against the guard doesn't turn in my hand. Cold steel's decent but I like the leather sheath for ease of deployment.
      ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      @@jatt4784 I carry my dbad War Machine all the time

    • @jatt4784
      @jatt4784 Рік тому +1

      I tried it with the Gi utility strap through the belt loop like usual.
      Made my back hurt.
      Just watched your video of the Buck GCK. It's a bit small, but it chops well so I might try it out.
      Thanks!

  • @Druide-ie1pc
    @Druide-ie1pc Рік тому +1

    Hey Donnie, I bought the CASE XX USMC Knife, made by Ontario, for Case.
    Theese Knives are probably, like the USMC knives, from the seventies?

  • @stop....hammertime
    @stop....hammertime Рік тому +1

    Oooooo, time to watch!

  • @isaacs_knives_and_knowledge
    @isaacs_knives_and_knowledge Рік тому +1

    I'm pretty sure they do call this one the Fighting Extreme haha. I've been debating on getting this D2 one for ages. They more recently came out with this one with a full plain edge. I'm a Ka-Bar fan. I just like the way they look and as you said they're great knives on the trail and for basic knife tasks

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      It makes me sad to know the still call it a fighting knife with that pommel

    • @isaacs_knives_and_knowledge
      @isaacs_knives_and_knowledge Рік тому +2

      @@DonnieBAllDay and not just a fighting knife. An EXTREME fighting knife haha
      You think the D2 gives a higher performance over the 1095?

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      @@isaacs_knives_and_knowledge no. Both steels handle well equally. 2 of my favorites due to consistency

    • @diogenesstudent5585
      @diogenesstudent5585 Рік тому +1

      ​@@DonnieBAllDay what about corrosion?

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      @@diogenesstudent5585 unkept will rust. Any carbon blades will

  • @RWAC685
    @RWAC685 Рік тому +1

    Donnie: First Of All, No He Didn’t.
    DAMN Gangster.

  • @basednorsegael1089
    @basednorsegael1089 Рік тому +1

    I ordered the “fighter” knife model that’s about an inch longer

  • @jenniferbauman4802
    @jenniferbauman4802 Рік тому +1

    Good video. Ya that's a Mark 2 Fighting knife it's nice . The finger guard needs to be thicker . The older ones were a little thicker. But in all these knives can take a beating. . I have the Case Mark 2 fighting knife. And it's real nice. The Mark 3 fighting knife from WW 2 is really nice to have and Mark 1 there all nice knives . So what one would you want if you had to pick one. Oh you should make a Mark 3 fighting knife like the one in WW 2 and beaf it up God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      If I could just have one between these two, I'd keep the leather stack

    • @jenniferbauman4802
      @jenniferbauman4802 Рік тому

      @@DonnieBAllDay ya . Right. But the dog head is D2 steal. And cut threw a lot of stuff with that sheraded blade. Maybe we are just old fashion. I should have gotten the army one instead of the U S M C one. Oh you should watch tour of duty. Great TV series. Great review . Keep up the good work. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.

  • @jorgefernandez6407
    @jorgefernandez6407 Рік тому +1

    "Grail-bar"!!! Eyeing that Extreme Don...

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      Its ok. I could never call it a grail anything

    • @jorgefernandez6407
      @jorgefernandez6407 Рік тому +1

      @@DonnieBAllDay grail for me cause I've wanted it for quite some time. That one, the Big Brother and the traditional leather stacked clip point! And I'll get em too bro...

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      @@jorgefernandez6407 The BB is the best of them

    • @jorgefernandez6407
      @jorgefernandez6407 Рік тому

      @@DonnieBAllDay 100% on the "must have" list!!!

  • @blindowl-bushcraft-survival
    @blindowl-bushcraft-survival Рік тому +1

    looks great, i have a USMC from 1945 made by camillus it is great i would like a D2 if i could find one without serration

  • @jeffaschbacher3334
    @jeffaschbacher3334 Рік тому

    Good job Donnie, got a laugh with "Nuts in my mouth" have a great day bro🇺🇲

  • @HarveySpectre1
    @HarveySpectre1 Рік тому +2

    hope this reaches you: if you had to choose then, what would be a better fighting/apocalypse knife than D2....BK7?

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      I would take the BK over this, but neither would be my fighter choice

    • @HarveySpectre1
      @HarveySpectre1 Рік тому

      maybe I should clarify, looking for a well rounded "apocalypse" & self defence type of a knife, I know you have preference for United Cutlery GH627 Gil Hibben Highlander as well as War Machine, any other suggestions would be much appreciated. thanks for getting back to me
      @@DonnieBAllDay

  • @SweGunner71
    @SweGunner71 Рік тому +1

    Which then would be good example of true fighting knives? (Not that I would need one... just being curious)

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      Tons of them. It comes down alot to balance points. I did a whole video on the difference between fighting and combat knives. Pure combat blades like the Buck ground combat knife is very different than a fighting knife such as my dbad Preacher

  • @aheronbobaj-konsulentijuaj2408

    KA BAR is a Great knife so hey
    P. S. If those dogs which White and Brown are yours, The Brown one has Health Issues , jas a Cancer/ Tumor kind of, Please look after him, dont leave him like that , if not yours then Please Report it, thats CRUEL !!
    Thanks 🙏🐾💙

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      no, he had a puss pocket. Its been drained. He's very old and on his way out

  • @Brees1986
    @Brees1986 Рік тому +1

    So what is recommended for a “fighting knife”?

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      lots. There are plenty of knives weighted and balanced for hand to hand combat. This one is just simply balanced to be used for what it was designed to be. A utility knife and I must say, its not a good utility knife, its a great utility knife

  • @georgek8060
    @georgek8060 Рік тому +1

    Good stuff

  • @deenoberry3360
    @deenoberry3360 Рік тому +1

    Got the d2 and it's the only knife I just can't get sharp. I'm going to send it off. Diamond sharpener works better but still frustratingly unsuccessful.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      I use a 1x30 belt grinder with a super fine belt

  • @1970vehuel
    @1970vehuel Рік тому +1

    Hi Donnie, what do you think about kabar 1269?

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому +1

      Looks a bit goofy, but with the added steel, it should carry a better balance

    • @1970vehuel
      @1970vehuel Рік тому +1

      @@DonnieBAllDayi think the 1271 looks much better

  • @traviswrangler4833
    @traviswrangler4833 Рік тому

    I’ve commented on your other kabar trio vid and well I wish I used the 7 inch kabar but for me it’s the big brother but I most often use the 5 1/4 inch, knock it for being the size of a butter knife this and that but it works would I use it to go into combat… nope not a chance better options

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      I did a vid on all three sizes. I prefer the short

  • @vyr01
    @vyr01 Рік тому

    It was mostly the factory edge - I think it might have cut a little paper

  • @customviking
    @customviking Рік тому +1

    Good review brother 👊🔥

  • @DamsLifestyle
    @DamsLifestyle Рік тому

    Very nice video

  • @RiceVillatoro
    @RiceVillatoro 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the review Donnie. I really like this knife, I have a Kabar 1220 U.S. Army version and I have been carrying that for years now. I'm kind of stuck in deciding between the D2 Kabar or the BK7. I've had a BK7 before but I've never had a Kabar in D2. I'm sort've leaning more towards the D2 for it's steel and edge retention and the kraton handle is more durable than the leather washers even though that and the dull grey makes it look like a toy knife. I don't beat on my kabars or anything the these other retards do, but I want peace of mind when I carry it. The Bk7 is a bit fat and the sheath is crap but I know it's a great chopper. I guess I'm just looking for that knife that is capable if and when I need it to be, and I've always loved Kabar. Thanks once again .

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  8 місяців тому +1

      Honestly, the BK7 is the better knife. Especially if you get some micarta scales

    • @RiceVillatoro
      @RiceVillatoro 8 місяців тому +1

      @@DonnieBAllDay I know, and it is cheaper too but I've never had a Kabar D2. UGh, The struggle is real!

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  8 місяців тому

      facts! Haha@@RiceVillatoro

  • @americantopgunner5102
    @americantopgunner5102 Рік тому

    Can u recommend a knife for hunting/survival?? I need a nice string knife for all things survival. Cutting,chopping, skinning animals off needed.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      The Esee Junglas, dbad War Machine and dbad Camp Master are my favorites. The Junglas is the best chopper of the three, but the other two are impeccably well rounded

    • @americantopgunner5102
      @americantopgunner5102 Рік тому

      @@DonnieBAllDay very nice thanks somebody just told me about this brand but I didn’t look into it. U know ur stuff so I’ll look into them he Showed them to me on Amazon. I’d like to have 1 great reliable knife on me to go with my reliable HK pistol. I’m not military but I do executive protection and armed details. Thanks brother.

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      @@americantopgunner5102 look into the Buck ground combat knives. Better suited for your work

    • @americantopgunner5102
      @americantopgunner5102 Рік тому

      @@DonnieBAllDay thanks 🙏🏽

  • @bladetimeswissvladknives
    @bladetimeswissvladknives Рік тому

    I love my kabar big brother

  • @Alex-sp4jp
    @Alex-sp4jp Рік тому +1

    Thanks dbad

  • @turtlewolfpack6061
    @turtlewolfpack6061 Рік тому

    The greatest failure of the western knife industry is that absaloutely horrific sandpaper coating from so many companies. I finally got myself a Tops Prather War Bowie (awesome knife) and stripped the coating from the bevel. 200% instant improvement but what was underneath the coating was absaloutely disgusting.

  • @tomritter493
    @tomritter493 Рік тому

    I can't tell ya how many deer and such my bar cleaned up that's on my grail list

  • @MichaelR58
    @MichaelR58 Рік тому

    Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !

  • @quasarleon4645
    @quasarleon4645 8 місяців тому +1

    Dad Joke Time :
    So if Muricans have the KA-BAR ,
    do muslims have the All@hu A-KA-BAR ?! 😅😅😅
    Greetings from Greece my friend , always useful content .
    Need to get me one of these SouvlaKA-BARS ! 😁

  • @flipflat4814
    @flipflat4814 Рік тому

    D-Bad ✊

  • @mikeaze423
    @mikeaze423 Рік тому +1

    Man what you doing with those birch wood Casey bottles lol

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  3 місяці тому

      some of the best liquid blue in the business... and its delicious

  • @Herne0011
    @Herne0011 Рік тому

    Have warmed up to Kabar over the years however it will only ever be a backup never a main. PS I HATE that style of sheath too. Once the clasp leather stretches I have no confidence in the sheath retaining the blade. Its a lazy cheap option for leatherworkers to do a sub par job. There are many better sheath clasp configurations than that. A complete deal breaker for me as I get older.

  • @Bend-Oregon
    @Bend-Oregon Рік тому +1

    The unabomber is doing knife reviews?

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      That name only applies when I'm in the bathroom

  • @Jroam04
    @Jroam04 Рік тому +1

    back 2 back world war champs

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      more people were killed with shovels than knives in those wars, so really, the E-tool is back to back champs

  • @dannyjackson2062
    @dannyjackson2062 8 місяців тому +1

    you said it would never be your combat why not...

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  8 місяців тому +1

      stick tang. Round grip. Wrong point of balance. I would take it as a hunting knife over almost anything though. Its made exactly for that

  • @deniskozlowski9370
    @deniskozlowski9370 Рік тому +1

    If you study hand to hand combat in WW1 & WW2 more people wee killed with shovels than fighting knives.

  • @screwface6552
    @screwface6552 Рік тому

    Is it a fighting knife ? No but I can still fight it.

  • @archiebunker3686
    @archiebunker3686 Рік тому

    It's cause there buying knockoffs from ebsy

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      No, real KA-BARS. The stick tang simply isn't a good idea

  • @madstan8948
    @madstan8948 Рік тому

    As many kills as these blades have on them they are combat knives hate to break it to you..

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      There were more kills with shovels than knives in Viet Nam. It's a combat shovel, sure, but its still not a combat fighting shovel. This knives is a combat utility knife. Nothing more. More people are killed with hammers and bats in this country than guns and knives. Go ahead and explain how that makes them combat fighting weapons.

    • @madstan8948
      @madstan8948 Рік тому

      @@DonnieBAllDay that argument is as ridiculous as calling rifles assault rifles so tell me then what’s the exact criteria required for a knife to become a “combat fighting knife” im genuinely interested to know the guidelines it has to fall under to be considered as such also who’s deeming this as the set standard for “combat fighting knives”

    • @DonnieBAllDay
      @DonnieBAllDay  Рік тому

      @@madstan8948 if the weight of a knife is designed to work as a controlled cutter, like in a hunting knife with a favorable MEAN measuring closer to a plus POB(like the KA-BAR), then it is not designed to be a fighting knife. The operable MEAN on those are near minus to minus, unlike throwers that can measure minus to zero but never plus. You're welcome