my brother did this to me while we were on a bike ride as the sun went down. he has been talking about alien sightings in the area and then rode up ahead, hid, and then screamed like something got him. fuckin asshole man💀
As a 6 yo watching yt on my iPad I was completely terrified of slenderman. And watching people play the first game. It helped me start my fear of the dark and empty spaces 😭
The girls from the Slenderman stabbing didn't make up the whole lore around killing someone to live with Slenderman, that was spawned from the Creepypasta fandom. They also believed that other Creepypasta characters, like Jeff the Killer and Ben Drowned, existed, and in a packing list they wrote they even planned on bringing fandom specific gifts to appease these other characters. I used to be in the Creepypasta fandom, and reading that note was honestly horrifying.
When that situation happened, I was straight up disgusted and I was only 2-3 years older then they were. I was still in high school and I was well aware of the Creepypasta stir ups during that time.
Payton is such a fighter honestly 19 stab wounds and still managed to get herself to the road. I remember the first time I watched a documentary on this attack and I didn’t know if she lived or died I genuinely cried of relief when I found out she was alive, people have died from less
An important thing to mention about the slenderman stabbing girls is that both of them had severe mental issues and had previously reached out to their parents for help, but were denied anything. It was barely even about the creepypasta, these kids were sick and nobody would help them so the illness kept developing. This isn't to defend their actions or to give them an excuse, it's an explanation.
I believe only one of them (Morgan Geyser) had a true mental illness which was later diagnosed schizophrenia that developed into psychosis. Anissa Weier on the other hand while also put in a state mental institution was evaluated to be viable for conditional release after she initially pleaded insanity. The reason for this is because they found that she quickly overcame her mental illness and lost all violent tendencies. If you look at the quotes from her in trial and at her arrest I think it is pretty clear she was clearly in the right state of mind when she attempted this homicide. Things like telling Geyser to “go ballistic” and stab the victim while not doing anything herself or telling officers “the bad part of me wanted (Payton) to die, the good part of me wanted her to live” something that doesn’t indicate fear or coercion but rather a warped sense of thrill seeking while also trying to express that she had air of innocence. She was not diagnosed with split personality disorder or schizophrenia at the mental hospital, she wasn’t actually diagnosed with anything in particular. I think it’s a real shame she is now released and was only charged for attempted second degree murder (manslaughter) initially, Geyser got the attempted first degree murder charge despite Weier being the one to persuade Geyer to go ballistic on Payton. If anything that shows that she had premeditated the stabbing more than Geyser who did it out of genuine fear that slenderman would come to kill her and her family if she did not appease him.
This is why I hate when people use video games and violent media as scapegoats for stuff like this. I think it’s overall pretty rare for that sort of thing to actually cause violence, rather than just bringing out latent violent tendencies in already mentally unstable people who aren’t getting the treatment they need.
@@trydodis690 I believe you are correct from what I remember of the case. Mental Health treatment and diagnoses in the US ( and most of the world honestly) is absolutely behind where it should be in terms of medicine.
@@TheMissing8 to be honest, adolescent kids are ALL kinda unhinged because of the rapid change & growth happening at the time. In fact, narcissism is a confirmed stage in late adolescent development.
Marble Hornets was the first time i was introduced to the found footage horror genre. I was 14 and became OBSESSED. I loved that series, so much. I loved the idea that slenderman induced psychosis and could control people as well as make them forget. Watching back videos of your own past that you dont remember that had horrifying implications was such a cool idea.
I might rewatch it again. i had to have been like, 12 or 13 when i first found it. dont think i really "got it" cause i was a stupid kid. coming at it from older eyes would be fun
@knucklebump557 part of the initial allure was my dumb kid brain thinking it was real when I was 14 lol. Then when I realized it wasn't, I was invested
fun fact about the slenderman stabbings: it wasn't even them learning it from the video games, it actually happened to come from them supposedly reading creepypasta fan fiction about creepypasta characters living in a mansion in the woods and romancing the reader.
@@hag8752when I was like 12 I wrote a letter to slender man and buried it asking to come see him. I didn’t really like him. Just ticcci Toby. Who I had a shrine too lol. It was a tiny shelf with a printed image of him and an axe laid on it lmao I knew it was fake. But it was fun to pretend. And I was feeling very violent at the time. So my thoughts of chilling with some killers made me feel edgy and let it out safely
I was in the Photoshop thread where Slenderman was created on SomethingAwful in like 2007 - the goal was to create "haunting" images, with something just barely visible in the distance. Slenderman ended up owning that thread. It was just a guy in a suit, then a weirdly tall, lanky guy, then someone added tentacles...
I love this new show. It was awesome to see red thread in my recommended for the first time lol i was like "wait........ is that Wendigoon with Charlie?" 😂😂
@@saggy7844 all 3 have their job, jackson does more behind the scenes work while the others add personality to it, I've also never seen jackson outside of the official podcast and here.
So, interesting little tidbit about the Wilkes Estate photograph. That's actually a mirror at the Myrtle's Plantation, known as the most haunted house in Louisiana, and one of the most haunted in America. A lot of people have taken pictures in that mirror and caught strange figures and faces. I wasn't able to find any reference to this connection online, and I'm assuming most people haven't made that connection, so I figured I'd make a comment about it here.
Damn hearing Wendigoon talk about how he made Slenderman creepypastas at 11 or 12 just reminds me of how I made a FNAF parody creepypasta based on the Loud House that I built in Minecraft Wii U Edition when I was like 10 or maybe 11 I think.
The part of the Slenderman stuff that I most enjoyed when I came across it was the "historical references to Slenderman," like the supposed wood carving of a knight fighting a tentacled creature and mention of references that sounded like referencing Slenderman. They were in no way convincing, but I was in university when I came across this stuff and it'd been out for a while, so none of it was actually convincing. Thanks for the episode!
For me, I always had my own headcanon. It always felt like Slenderman was assimilating its victims. It Came from the ocean, hence the tentacles. Once it got to land, it primarily assimilated adult men, which is were the height and suit come from. As it absorbed more and more adults it gained awareness and felt it was missing something. It started assimilating children, causing it to develop a childlike laugh and a fascination with drawing.
I haven't heard of a headcanon like that for Slenderman before! I also just haven't looked at much Slenderman stuff for the past few years, but yours seems super interesting! I like the idea of him as something like the Thing, but from the depths of the ocean. Thanks for sharing! 👍
I have the head cannon that he's like the personification of human fears. Everything about him plays on a super common fear, like walking alone in the woods, the uncanny valley effect (unproportional body) being bigger than you, being an overwhelming force (like his tentacles and nausea you get when he's around) and, worst of all, taking children from their parents.
I didn't have home internet access until I graduated high school in 2008. I learned about slenderman three years later, and while I knew it was fake, it creeped the hell outta me. The part about how the more you researched it the more you attracted it was what got me the most.
The best thing about the Slenderman movie was the cinematography. There were moments where it genuinely felt otherworldly and unsettling, but for the majority of it, it just felt like an unoriginal drag. I wish they had actually cared.
I absolutely am so addicted to the red thread series, please keep doing em boys, I recommend researching a cryptid called the squonk, there may not be any first hand accounts but it's a funny and interesting cryptid in itself
YES omg Squonk is my #1 most wanted episode for this show despite how much of a long shot it is. And we've probably seen the squonk, just in puddle form. Poor lil guy.
Just finished a two-hour Slender let’s play from October then decided to see if the new Red Thread had dropped, and now I’m pretty sure I’m gonna see slender in my dreams tonight
@Vaul. I think you mean "many year old memes", not comments. If YT allowed for just sharing meme images in comments, I'd have done that, but then you'd be bitching about my meme being old. Go touch some grass and let the rest of us have fun. We don't want your misery, no matter how much you want to share it.
Its amazing how the internet can blow something up like Slenderman. Hopefully they do an episode about the backrooms, I feel like that had a pretty big moment with how popular it was for a while.
The backrooms is still going strong too, although it's not at its peak anymore. I heard somewhere that there was a movie in the works too, hopefully a good one and not another Sony incident
Slenderman Murder Lore; When you listen to the whole story Anissa Weier was the architect of the entire thing, she took advantage of Morgan's mental illness. Payton Leutner and Morgan were originally friends, Payton seemed like a good person that was looking out for Morgan, Anissa doesn't seemed to be liked by her classmates for being sus and Payton was actually trying steer Morgan away from Anissa once she was trying to be friends with Morgan, but Anissa was extremely manipulative. If you watch the interrogation Anissa gets excited when talking about slenderman and had a huge browser history full of creepypasta meanwhile Morgan only mentioned slenderman when it was brought up and didn't seem nearly as interested.
it’s truly such a sad story of what an evil person can do when they have people who are hurting around them that they can manipulate into soldiers of their own volition
If I remember correctly, wasn't their more cases that had slenderman in it? It has this one kid that burned down their house and something like that with their parents. There are plenty of cases that got creepypastas involved. Like that one girl who killed her mother? (Don't know if it was the mom or dad or both of them remember), but that kid killed one of their parents for LJ all though I think she had Schizophrenia
As someone old enough to be in college when Slendie hit the stage it was still impossible to avoid him. There were watch parties on campus showing Marble Hornet's because it was the new and experimental horror trend. We have to remember that the modern fad of "horror/murder/nightmares are primarily kids entertainment" that UA-cam somehow manifested is very new and traditionally morbid stuff was meant for adults, so there was a lot of spill over.
An important detail that was not mentioned about the slenderman stabbing was that both Geyser and Meier assured Payton that she should lie down and they would get help after they stabbed her. Something they did not do. During interrogations it was concluded that Geyer had no empathy for the stabbing whereas Meier had incredible guilt. Both were sent to a state mental institution but their charges were not the same, Geyser was charged with attempted first degree murder while Meier was charged with attempted second degree murder despite her giving Geyser the instructions to “go ballistic” and stab Payton. She was released early from the mental institution because of good behavior and response to treatment despite her not being diagnosed with any particular mental illness. Geyser on the other hand was diagnosed with schizophrenia and psychosis during her time there explaining her lack of empathy for the initial crime.
You're a Boeing 737 max airplane, you fly at altitude looking at your boeing provided max systems staring at images of a strange disc shaped object with several tentacles. The thought of this being fills your mind so much that the pilots within you begin to lose control as the max system demands that they fly towards it. As you get closer you begin to hear the haunting screams of capturerd kids of both the saucer as well as the passengers within you. Thankfully you narrowly miss the thing as you ascend above it before it's tentacles can touch you. From within, a kid by the name of Jackson clarke amidst the several injured bodies of the passengers states to himself: "I'm going to write a creepy pasta about this" Welcome, to the red thread
I think it would be really cool to do an episode about how there is a huge concentration of people disappearing in the same areas as large cave systems. Like if you put pins of large cave systems on a map and overlay a map of all the people who have just vanished, they line up perfectly. Just a thought.
I was turning 30 when the creepypasta scene was coming out. SCP wiki, Slenderman, Candle Cove, stairs in the woods, etc. There's just something about them that really impacted me.. like, a rediscovery of the wonder I had as a child in the 80s. Those moments when I could play in the backyard, and use a shrub that had heavy branches allowing me to sit in it like it was the seat of a mech, or use GI Joe figures in the dirt and stucco and imagine a rock wall scene. That feeling of simultaneously aware that the world around me is normal, but having that layer over top that creates a world of whatever I wanted. That feeling was restored with these stories. It probably shaped my 30s, pivoting me in a different direction. I looked up and read Lovecraft and other existential stories. Reading books by Robert Anton Wilson or taking a scholarly approach to the Bible. Trying to create a duality in my mind, where I can "believe without believing" to better understand the knowledge conveyed by someone with a different perspective than mine, without necessarily losing myself to it. While Slenderman did not captivate me in the way that a teenage mind would, it coincided with a time where I could appreciate these things so much more as an adult. I've been engrossed in this culture ever since!
I love that the horror film turned Slenderman from some spooky dude who creeped in the woods to a Sadako spooky internet video "watch it and you'll die" copycat who was an evil tree in the woods, also I've watched a creepypasta before where in the comments one dude unironically asked "when did this happen, I cant find any news reports about it"
I’m shocked Charlie didn’t mention how the slender man movie was very different from the trailer, they had police finding a girl in the woods, one of the main girls stabbed herself in the eye, a character jumped off a building, the film changed so much vs what they displayed in trailer
It's kind of saddens me that not many people talk about Every Man Hybrid. I know Marble Hornets is a solid starting point, but my favorite aspect of slenderma isn't the 'proxys' and stuff but that he's my first encounter with the concept of an incognito warning, where NOTICING him basically gets you sick, and the more you look into what he is and the more you think about him, the more you see him and the closer he gets, making you sicker and sicker until he gets you and you die.
Slenderman & Jake. The drawings weren't post abduction as Charlie thought. There are 2 drawings: one signed "Jake 7" and the other "Jake 8". The bday party invitation is for May 18th. The newspaper article states Jake was 8 yrs old and abducted May 19th. So, Jake saw Slender at age 7 then again at his party. He drew the 2nd picture after seeing Slender at the party (hence the balloon in the drawing and new age) and was abducted the next day.
Awesome to have weekly uploads of the show. Thank you guys for making this and to Jackson especially for the research and time invested into every subject. And that intro - we are all Jackson now 😂 I'm looking forward to the next episode already! ❤
I remember back in like 2017 or 2018 when I was like 10 or 11 I drew a picture of Slenderman and my Grandma saw it. She looked it up and got horrified about the incident that happened a few years prior. So I guess a lot of people had to explain to their family that it wasn’t like that.
I stumbled across the Slenderman stories in 2012 as a college student. That Fall, I had several startles on and around campus. The first one was part of a team shooting footage for a film class. The second was someone lurking around downtown during Halloween pub crawl.
omg thank you for mentioning the pages on the trees 😂 . I watched all of this as my daughter followed it but couldn’t exactly remember the game seeking handprints.
There used to be this channel that captured that unnerving horror of slenderman so well. Used to watch their videos when slenderman was at its peak. Each video would be like recovered cassette tape, kinda blair witch style, and it mostly focused on the mental anguish the people getting stalked by slendomang went through. Each video only had like a hundred views at the time so it really felt like you stumbled onto something you weren't supposed to see, and they rarely made him show up because I'm sure it was hard to edit, but when he did it was sick. No idea how they did it, and no doubt in my mind it convinced a couple people wrapped up in the hype slenderman was actually real, which is the best part.
im not from the US and know little about slenderman. that slender man stabbing is horrible. felt so heavy during that part. eased up and felt glad that the child victim lived even after 19 stabs.
Fun fact: SCP existed almost 2 years before slender man and got a huge boost in popularity possibly due to slender man which made it seem like it came after.
I first started watching horror games when it came to Amniesia: The Dark Descent, and I remember that leading to so many new avenues of horror I'd never seen before. I was probably around 12 at the time I discovered Marble Hornets, but I've loved that series ever since. I genuinely don't think the guys gave it enough credit for how low-budget, yet in-depth and spanning it was. I recently rewatched the series - including the ToTheArk channel and all of it's videos. I remember discovering the series while it was still going and wanting more even after there were 70 entries. As a kid, I genuinely questioned if the slender man was real thanks to well-done series like this one, though I was only fearful, not wanting to become one of his victims. I remember how well the series was done using found-footage style videos, and there was almost never any speaking directly addressing the viewers, which made it so much more believable. It felt like a real life story happening somewhere, with mystery and unanswered questions and most of all - the horror that they were running from. The Marble Hornets I believe was the first really expanded lore-case for Slenderman, giving him attributes like the Slender Sickness, his mass of followers luring new victims, and they really played around with the now widely accepted "pocket dimension" theory that the Slenderman will pull victims into a different sort of limbo-dimension where he can keep them, feed on them, indoctrinate them and turn them into his sheep. There was so much good lore, production and genuine great writing that I wish the boys had focused most of the show on this series. I find almost anything related to Slenderman can be traced back to either Marble Hornets, or the limited media that existed before that. I also don't really understand what Charlie was saying about the Eight Pages game ruining horror. Charlie must play some bottom-of-the-barrel garbage steam trash-ware horror games, because I feel like the 8 pages, as well as the then current popularity of the Amnesia series lead to the horror genre becoming more popular in general, and thus resulting in more absolutely phenominal games. Outlast, Layers of Fear, the Slender Arrival game (yes it was much better than they made it out to sound). If we're gonna talk about horror games that had a negative impact on specifically gameplay, I'd like to point out FNAF. But regardless, I don't think any of these games would've had the success, or the landscape to be successful if not for the road paved by the Slender creepypasta and the monumental path it carved through gaming, horror and the internet as a whole. I think Charlie must be thinking of the Slenderman's Shadow games being repetetive, because they were the same game as the 8 pages but in a different area, but these games were never meant to be blockbusters and were a creative homage to the original game and it's simple concept for those who wanted more after beating the original 8 pages. Anyway, I'll stop rambling. I genuinely love this creepypasta and it was exciting to see them cover slender, though beyond the original source material I think a lot of what they covered was irrelevant, this was more of a "Culture shock" episode of The Red Thread, as they spent more time examining the impacts of Slender vs his actual likeness, lore and appearances. This is hard when most of the content created strays from the original author and is not official, but so much of it has been deemed pretty much cannon by the community you could pick a series and run with it. One last note, it is my dream someday for Wendigoon to cover the Marble Hornets series on his channel. I know it'll likely never come, but I know his analasys would be fantastic, and hopefully garner more attention for this once prolific story and character.
First. Also, Wendy is a national treasure, Charlie is the original based gigachad, and Jackson and I vibe on similar places on the spectrum. God bless, boys.
I have a very distinct memory of going on a walk with high school friend in 2014 and talking about the slenderman stabbings (we were around the same age as the girls in the incident); being frustrated at the panic it caused for parents who didn't want their teenagers like us reading these stories. There was a lot of edgy fanfiction out there that caused harm for people like the young perpetrators who struggled to separate fiction from reality. It was a really weird time to be a creepypasta fan
Around the same time the stabbings happened, my middle schools counselor sat me and my friend down and asked how we were doing as if we were going to something just as insane JUST because we said we would draw him in class.
I remember when slenderman blew up. I did think he was creepy, uncanny valley and I remembe rplaying the 8 pages game and it REALLY freaked me out. Slenderman was my first introduction to horror/creepypasta/cryptids. I remember that holloween there were HUNDREDS of slendermen lol. It was also the era of morph suits.
Not finished yet, but I'm surprised during the talk of the stabbings, no one mentioned how the 2 girls were trying to get to this "mansion" which is referencing the "creepypasta mansion", I think made up by some fans of the creepypasta wiki. These girls were likely exposed to majority of Slenderman lore via this fan wiki, amongst other famous creepypastas like Jeff the Killer. They were trying to get into what is essentially a bunch of preteen's fanfiction mansion. You can hear them talk more about it from their interrogation footage, which you can find on UA-cam. These 2 girls were so disconnected from reality and I think shows what unmoderated and constant internet access can potentially do to a child. They wanted these stories to be real SO badly, they had to believe a new reality. Children need to be reminded that these stories are just stories, fun tales to get scared over, and that escapism should be left at the door the second it's time to return to daily life. They were certainly mentally ill and troubled, but children are so impressionable that I don't think that is the only reason.
Yeah too many people don't supervise their children! I wish they would at least get familiar with what they're up to online, so they can at least actually trust that they're safe. Whether physically or mentally. I worry what the next generations will be like, so many children are raised as tablet kids these days.
It's always when I'm at my weakest, shaking and crying while feeling the worst emotions, that a Red Thread Video is released. It brightens my day every time.
@@chrisdaman4179keep at it man, one step at a time. You won’t believe the difference in your life. I love hiking with my dog. I’m sitting by a pond in the woods right now watching my dog play. See you on the trail partner 🫡👍
Slenderman has to be my favorite creepypasta ever created. The whole theme is so ominous, mysterious. I am very glad the backstory was never overwritten, and only relatively little is known about it.
As someone who was in that space on the Internet before the stabbing, sad to say they definitely were influenced by fan creations like fanfiction written by kids their age. The popular trope in fanfiction at the time was that kids from abusive homes would be approached by the idealized versions of creepypasta villains and offered a home with them as their family where the kids become evil characters themselves. It's a coping mechanism that, in combination with a tendency toward delusions, I can see how it may have led to this
slender the arrival was SO good. imo it still holds up today. scared me shitless as a kid and its a lot of fun as an adult, plus the story and the supplementary content were so immersive and atmospheric. great memories
The arg that got me into creepypasta and slenderman was Everyman hybrid. Even in highschool I made an EMH shirt and sevral of the creators liked it on Twitter and I was so pummed.
My older brother's greatest bit of pointing into the woods while we're hiking, saying "did you see that movement over there?" Then sprinting off
That sounds awful lmao
IRL “did you see it? 👉⭕️” moment.
my brother did this to me while we were on a bike ride as the sun went down. he has been talking about alien sightings in the area and then rode up ahead, hid, and then screamed like something got him. fuckin asshole man💀
@@iLinkedNah, that’s normal sibling behavior, lmao.
Reminds me of my Dad's greatest bit of saying "I'm gonna go buy milk" then sprinting off.
Still waiting on the punchline, Dad.
Slenderman can be summed up as "Hes just standing there.... menacingly!!!"
terrifying
@@joeblack1652 your comment says 45 mins ago but the og comment is from 20 minutes ago HOW CAN THIS BE POSSIBLE?
@@YerielGonzález-m5uProbably because the original comment loaded first, and the timestamp didn't update when you opened the replies.
As a 6 yo watching yt on my iPad I was completely terrified of slenderman. And watching people play the first game. It helped me start my fear of the dark and empty spaces 😭
@@YerielGonzález-m5uslender man
The girls from the Slenderman stabbing didn't make up the whole lore around killing someone to live with Slenderman, that was spawned from the Creepypasta fandom. They also believed that other Creepypasta characters, like Jeff the Killer and Ben Drowned, existed, and in a packing list they wrote they even planned on bringing fandom specific gifts to appease these other characters. I used to be in the Creepypasta fandom, and reading that note was honestly horrifying.
That case was nuts. That's the first time I heard of Slenderman.
This should be a top comment, it really bugged me that they didn't research this case more to realize things like this
When that situation happened, I was straight up disgusted and I was only 2-3 years older then they were. I was still in high school and I was well aware of the Creepypasta stir ups during that time.
Some Chris Chan levels of dimensional merge they were going off of
They should totally cover Ben Drowned on CreepCast or here
i love that the age difference means charlie was almost a full grown man but he was still obsessed with something an eleven year old wendigoon liked
@@YoungMarkGoldbridge ???
@@YoungMarkGoldbridgeBrain rot.
@@YoungMarkGoldbridge How?
@@localidiot450 dye
Charles is 82?
Payton is such a fighter honestly 19 stab wounds and still managed to get herself to the road. I remember the first time I watched a documentary on this attack and I didn’t know if she lived or died I genuinely cried of relief when I found out she was alive, people have died from less
Adrenaline is one hell of a drug.
An important thing to mention about the slenderman stabbing girls is that both of them had severe mental issues and had previously reached out to their parents for help, but were denied anything. It was barely even about the creepypasta, these kids were sick and nobody would help them so the illness kept developing. This isn't to defend their actions or to give them an excuse, it's an explanation.
I believe only one of them (Morgan Geyser) had a true mental illness which was later diagnosed schizophrenia that developed into psychosis.
Anissa Weier on the other hand while also put in a state mental institution was evaluated to be viable for conditional release after she initially pleaded insanity. The reason for this is because they found that she quickly overcame her mental illness and lost all violent tendencies.
If you look at the quotes from her in trial and at her arrest I think it is pretty clear she was clearly in the right state of mind when she attempted this homicide. Things like telling Geyser to “go ballistic” and stab the victim while not doing anything herself or telling officers “the bad part of me wanted (Payton) to die, the good part of me wanted her to live” something that doesn’t indicate fear or coercion but rather a warped sense of thrill seeking while also trying to express that she had air of innocence. She was not diagnosed with split personality disorder or schizophrenia at the mental hospital, she wasn’t actually diagnosed with anything in particular.
I think it’s a real shame she is now released and was only charged for attempted second degree murder (manslaughter) initially, Geyser got the attempted first degree murder charge despite Weier being the one to persuade Geyer to go ballistic on Payton. If anything that shows that she had premeditated the stabbing more than Geyser who did it out of genuine fear that slenderman would come to kill her and her family if she did not appease him.
@@trydodis690 here's to hoping the Weier girl isn't still a terrible person like she was as a kid 😅
This is why I hate when people use video games and violent media as scapegoats for stuff like this. I think it’s overall pretty rare for that sort of thing to actually cause violence, rather than just bringing out latent violent tendencies in already mentally unstable people who aren’t getting the treatment they need.
@@trydodis690 I believe you are correct from what I remember of the case. Mental Health treatment and diagnoses in the US ( and most of the world honestly) is absolutely behind where it should be in terms of medicine.
@@TheMissing8 to be honest, adolescent kids are ALL kinda unhinged because of the rapid change & growth happening at the time.
In fact, narcissism is a confirmed stage in late adolescent development.
I love that Charlie, Jackson and Isaiah look like they are all the same guy but in different fonts
Marble Hornets was the first time i was introduced to the found footage horror genre. I was 14 and became OBSESSED. I loved that series, so much. I loved the idea that slenderman induced psychosis and could control people as well as make them forget. Watching back videos of your own past that you dont remember that had horrifying implications was such a cool idea.
To this day I’m obsessed with marble hornets. 100% my favourite web series ever
@@SeveralRasInAJacketstill goes so hard. Just made my little brother sit thru and binge it with me he loved it
I might rewatch it again. i had to have been like, 12 or 13 when i first found it. dont think i really "got it" cause i was a stupid kid. coming at it from older eyes would be fun
@knucklebump557 part of the initial allure was my dumb kid brain thinking it was real when I was 14 lol. Then when I realized it wasn't, I was invested
fun fact about the slenderman stabbings: it wasn't even them learning it from the video games, it actually happened to come from them supposedly reading creepypasta fan fiction about creepypasta characters living in a mansion in the woods and romancing the reader.
As someone who was a preteen girl who read creepypasta fanfiction around that time, yeah it was the edgy fanfiction that probably influenced them.
Not just supposedy, but they wrote a packing list which mentioned other Creepypasta characters and fandom specific inside jokes
I wrote fan fiction of that when I was 12 but I KNEW it was fake and a wierd fantasy.
"fun" fact
@@hag8752when I was like 12 I wrote a letter to slender man and buried it asking to come see him. I didn’t really like him. Just ticcci Toby. Who I had a shrine too lol. It was a tiny shelf with a printed image of him and an axe laid on it lmao
I knew it was fake. But it was fun to pretend. And I was feeling very violent at the time. So my thoughts of chilling with some killers made me feel edgy and let it out safely
I was in the Photoshop thread where Slenderman was created on SomethingAwful in like 2007 - the goal was to create "haunting" images, with something just barely visible in the distance. Slenderman ended up owning that thread. It was just a guy in a suit, then a weirdly tall, lanky guy, then someone added tentacles...
So sad that Isaiah and Charlie took Jackson into the woods and stabbed him to summon Slenderman
All because the lizard reptilians in the Denver International Airport told them to
Truly saddening and disappointing
And live in the Slendermansion™
two podcast hosts sacrificing their third member to summon slenderman unironically sounds like a blumhouse plot
Somebody's gotta do the research. It's scholarship
"When I was a child, I wrote Slenderman creepypastas" my guy, I was an adult. Never thought Wendigoon would make me feel old.
The Gentle Men x Slenderman when
We need it now
The Slender Men
what about the shiny gentleman?
Gentle slenderman
the slentlemen
I love this new show. It was awesome to see red thread in my recommended for the first time lol i was like "wait........ is that Wendigoon with Charlie?" 😂😂
I always feel bad that I was hyped for a wendigoon x Charlie collaborated but all three work do well
@@saggy7844 all 3 have their job, jackson does more behind the scenes work while the others add personality to it, I've also never seen jackson outside of the official podcast and here.
When the shows literally run by Jackson..
@@nicholas-dv1mgI always wonder how Charlie and Huggsbees met Jackson (and Kaya)
My exact reaction to finding the channel last week!!!😂
So, interesting little tidbit about the Wilkes Estate photograph. That's actually a mirror at the Myrtle's Plantation, known as the most haunted house in Louisiana, and one of the most haunted in America. A lot of people have taken pictures in that mirror and caught strange figures and faces. I wasn't able to find any reference to this connection online, and I'm assuming most people haven't made that connection, so I figured I'd make a comment about it here.
Damn hearing Wendigoon talk about how he made Slenderman creepypastas at 11 or 12 just reminds me of how I made a FNAF parody creepypasta based on the Loud House that I built in Minecraft Wii U Edition when I was like 10 or maybe 11 I think.
The part of the Slenderman stuff that I most enjoyed when I came across it was the "historical references to Slenderman," like the supposed wood carving of a knight fighting a tentacled creature and mention of references that sounded like referencing Slenderman. They were in no way convincing, but I was in university when I came across this stuff and it'd been out for a while, so none of it was actually convincing.
Thanks for the episode!
For me, I always had my own headcanon. It always felt like Slenderman was assimilating its victims. It Came from the ocean, hence the tentacles. Once it got to land, it primarily assimilated adult men, which is were the height and suit come from. As it absorbed more and more adults it gained awareness and felt it was missing something. It started assimilating children, causing it to develop a childlike laugh and a fascination with drawing.
I haven't heard of a headcanon like that for Slenderman before! I also just haven't looked at much Slenderman stuff for the past few years, but yours seems super interesting! I like the idea of him as something like the Thing, but from the depths of the ocean.
Thanks for sharing! 👍
I have the head cannon that he's like the personification of human fears. Everything about him plays on a super common fear, like walking alone in the woods, the uncanny valley effect (unproportional body) being bigger than you, being an overwhelming force (like his tentacles and nausea you get when he's around) and, worst of all, taking children from their parents.
My headcanon is that he’s a cave version of humans. If you compare Olms to Axolotles its similar to Slenderman vs a regular human.
I thought so too!!
Honestly this is an awesome idea, probably better than anything that was ACTUALLY planned
slender man is one of my favorites because his name is just a description of the man. we need a new cryptid called stout man or something
Fat man
Before Slenderman there was..... Fat Man....
Slim fellow
Please read my story "Rotund man in a white suit". Need feedback. No bullying.
Remember siren head lol
“I’m gonna be productive today and get stuff around the house done” “nvm new red thread just dropped”
both
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@@mfsreallynameddarylit’s like background music 😍
do both
i do both. it amplifies the housework experience
I didn't have home internet access until I graduated high school in 2008. I learned about slenderman three years later, and while I knew it was fake, it creeped the hell outta me. The part about how the more you researched it the more you attracted it was what got me the most.
The best thing about the Slenderman movie was the cinematography. There were moments where it genuinely felt otherworldly and unsettling, but for the majority of it, it just felt like an unoriginal drag. I wish they had actually cared.
Oh jeepers, this Red Thread episode is really giving me the willies!
Loving the weekly uploads
The way Marble Hornets had me in an absolute chokehold.
I absolutely am so addicted to the red thread series, please keep doing em boys, I recommend researching a cryptid called the squonk, there may not be any first hand accounts but it's a funny and interesting cryptid in itself
YES omg Squonk is my #1 most wanted episode for this show despite how much of a long shot it is. And we've probably seen the squonk, just in puddle form. Poor lil guy.
Jackson carrying this episode so hard; man started working on it 13 years ago
That intro was very cute ngl.
youre cute
Charlie holds the water in his mouth for a full 10 seconds before drinking it lmaoooo 15:25
I do that to
@@SeniorNano same that's the only reason i noticed it
I can't really see the point where he swallowed it, how did you notice that?
@@arsena5209he never did.
Literally the only channel I tap to watch as soon as I possibly can.
Same. Well, this and Creep Cast.
@@papermintairplane Oh 1000%! Same!
@@papermintairplane i was just about to recomend Creep Cast too 😂
Bro discovered content
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My favorite ‘Slenderman Memory’ is going to theaters to see the movie, and hearing the entire room laugh at a couple of the jumpscares.
I have only semi-consistently listened to like 3 Podcasts and this is one of them. I just like the way these three interact on the topics.
Slenderman's well done uncannyness for its time probably helped its exponential growth
Just finished a two-hour Slender let’s play from October then decided to see if the new Red Thread had dropped, and now I’m pretty sure I’m gonna see slender in my dreams tonight
Love when wendigoon said "It is gooning time" 3:32
A baby's laughter is one of the most beautiful sounds you will ever hear.
Unless it's 3 AM.
You're home alone.
And you don't have a baby.
And as someone who has a baby, hearing a baby laugh at 3am when you’re home alone is just as terrifying
A baby shutting the fuck up is even more beautiful
The fact some people are so unoriginal they have to steal many year old comments is sad
@Vaul. I think you mean "many year old memes", not comments.
If YT allowed for just sharing meme images in comments, I'd have done that, but then you'd be bitching about my meme being old.
Go touch some grass and let the rest of us have fun. We don't want your misery, no matter how much you want to share it.
@@Vaul.Cry more
This newer show is killer! Spent the last week binging all the other episodes!
Its amazing how the internet can blow something up like Slenderman. Hopefully they do an episode about the backrooms, I feel like that had a pretty big moment with how popular it was for a while.
The backrooms is still going strong too, although it's not at its peak anymore. I heard somewhere that there was a movie in the works too, hopefully a good one and not another Sony incident
The back rooms is a modern day Labyrinth
What is even interesting about it
Slenderman Murder Lore; When you listen to the whole story Anissa Weier was the architect of the entire thing, she took advantage of Morgan's mental illness. Payton Leutner and Morgan were originally friends, Payton seemed like a good person that was looking out for Morgan, Anissa doesn't seemed to be liked by her classmates for being sus and Payton was actually trying steer Morgan away from Anissa once she was trying to be friends with Morgan, but Anissa was extremely manipulative. If you watch the interrogation Anissa gets excited when talking about slenderman and had a huge browser history full of creepypasta meanwhile Morgan only mentioned slenderman when it was brought up and didn't seem nearly as interested.
it’s truly such a sad story of what an evil person can do when they have people who are hurting around them that they can manipulate into soldiers of their own volition
If I remember correctly, wasn't their more cases that had slenderman in it? It has this one kid that burned down their house and something like that with their parents. There are plenty of cases that got creepypastas involved. Like that one girl who killed her mother? (Don't know if it was the mom or dad or both of them remember), but that kid killed one of their parents for LJ all though I think she had Schizophrenia
? It sounds like the boys said the opposite. Morgan was the fucked up one.
Two topics that I think would be great for the podcast: MKUltra and the Watcher case (657 Boulevard)
Oh man I completely forgot about the Watcher case. Man that was creepy
In late 2014 there was a Slenderman themed Law&Order SVU episode called 'Glasgowman's Wrath'.
As someone old enough to be in college when Slendie hit the stage it was still impossible to avoid him. There were watch parties on campus showing Marble Hornet's because it was the new and experimental horror trend. We have to remember that the modern fad of "horror/murder/nightmares are primarily kids entertainment" that UA-cam somehow manifested is very new and traditionally morbid stuff was meant for adults, so there was a lot of spill over.
as someone who was in the creepypasta fandom, i appreciate this episode
You guys really brighten up my day everytime I see a new upload. I appreciate all of you!
Slender Man's existence implies the existence of Slendest Man
An important detail that was not mentioned about the slenderman stabbing was that both Geyser and Meier assured Payton that she should lie down and they would get help after they stabbed her. Something they did not do.
During interrogations it was concluded that Geyer had no empathy for the stabbing whereas Meier had incredible guilt. Both were sent to a state mental institution but their charges were not the same, Geyser was charged with attempted first degree murder while Meier was charged with attempted second degree murder despite her giving Geyser the instructions to “go ballistic” and stab Payton.
She was released early from the mental institution because of good behavior and response to treatment despite her not being diagnosed with any particular mental illness. Geyser on the other hand was diagnosed with schizophrenia and psychosis during her time there explaining her lack of empathy for the initial crime.
You're a Boeing 737 max airplane, you fly at altitude looking at your boeing provided max systems staring at images of a strange disc shaped object with several tentacles. The thought of this being fills your mind so much that the pilots within you begin to lose control as the max system demands that they fly towards it. As you get closer you begin to hear the haunting screams of capturerd kids of both the saucer as well as the passengers within you. Thankfully you narrowly miss the thing as you ascend above it before it's tentacles can touch you. From within, a kid by the name of Jackson clarke amidst the several injured bodies of the passengers states to himself: "I'm going to write a creepy pasta about this"
Welcome, to the red thread
This is the origin story of all time
Sounds like a whistle about to unalive itself to me
I think it would be really cool to do an episode about how there is a huge concentration of people disappearing in the same areas as large cave systems. Like if you put pins of large cave systems on a map and overlay a map of all the people who have just vanished, they line up perfectly. Just a thought.
I've been bingingall morning at work, only to be blessed with a new episode right as I'm finished. It's gonna be a good day!
Listened to this while getting my throat tattooed. Definitely helped take my mind off of the pain, another great episode!
it was an honor being jackson in the intro. thanks.
I was turning 30 when the creepypasta scene was coming out. SCP wiki, Slenderman, Candle Cove, stairs in the woods, etc.
There's just something about them that really impacted me.. like, a rediscovery of the wonder I had as a child in the 80s. Those moments when I could play in the backyard, and use a shrub that had heavy branches allowing me to sit in it like it was the seat of a mech, or use GI Joe figures in the dirt and stucco and imagine a rock wall scene. That feeling of simultaneously aware that the world around me is normal, but having that layer over top that creates a world of whatever I wanted.
That feeling was restored with these stories. It probably shaped my 30s, pivoting me in a different direction. I looked up and read Lovecraft and other existential stories. Reading books by Robert Anton Wilson or taking a scholarly approach to the Bible. Trying to create a duality in my mind, where I can "believe without believing" to better understand the knowledge conveyed by someone with a different perspective than mine, without necessarily losing myself to it.
While Slenderman did not captivate me in the way that a teenage mind would, it coincided with a time where I could appreciate these things so much more as an adult. I've been engrossed in this culture ever since!
I like when Wendi says “MA’AM THIS IS A WENDY’S” and Wendy’s all over everyone
When deez
@@iLinked deez? what is that?
When Deez start gooning
I love that the horror film turned Slenderman from some spooky dude who creeped in the woods to a Sadako spooky internet video "watch it and you'll die" copycat who was an evil tree in the woods, also I've watched a creepypasta before where in the comments one dude unironically asked "when did this happen, I cant find any news reports about it"
I’m shocked Charlie didn’t mention how the slender man movie was very different from the trailer, they had police finding a girl in the woods, one of the main girls stabbed herself in the eye, a character jumped off a building, the film changed so much vs what they displayed in trailer
It's kind of saddens me that not many people talk about Every Man Hybrid. I know Marble Hornets is a solid starting point, but my favorite aspect of slenderma isn't the 'proxys' and stuff but that he's my first encounter with the concept of an incognito warning, where NOTICING him basically gets you sick, and the more you look into what he is and the more you think about him, the more you see him and the closer he gets, making you sicker and sicker until he gets you and you die.
I’ve been obsessed with marble hornets for years, I watched Everyman hybrid but honestly could not decipher it with all the blog posts and lore
Slenderman & Jake. The drawings weren't post abduction as Charlie thought. There are 2 drawings: one signed "Jake 7" and the other "Jake 8". The bday party invitation is for May 18th. The newspaper article states Jake was 8 yrs old and abducted May 19th. So, Jake saw Slender at age 7 then again at his party. He drew the 2nd picture after seeing Slender at the party (hence the balloon in the drawing and new age) and was abducted the next day.
This though, Charlie was so confident it was so weird because like the pictures they just pulled up were age 7
The best feeling is being bored and then you get a notification that these three posted
Would love to see an episode on Herobrine. There's a lot of fun stuff to talk about with him
Awesome to have weekly uploads of the show. Thank you guys for making this and to Jackson especially for the research and time invested into every subject.
And that intro - we are all Jackson now 😂
I'm looking forward to the next episode already! ❤
I remember back in like 2017 or 2018 when I was like 10 or 11 I drew a picture of Slenderman and my Grandma saw it. She looked it up and got horrified about the incident that happened a few years prior. So I guess a lot of people had to explain to their family that it wasn’t like that.
Thank you for doing this. This and the Official Podcast are the only way I can keep going at this point.
no fucking way i just finished binge watching all of these after an all nighter and ya post a new one amazing timing
I love waking up to a new episode I’m so hyped!!!!
Oh, Jebus! This Red Thread episode gave me the willies.
I stumbled across the Slenderman stories in 2012 as a college student. That Fall, I had several startles on and around campus. The first one was part of a team shooting footage for a film class. The second was someone lurking around downtown during Halloween pub crawl.
I’ve been waiting for this. Thanks ❤❤❤
omg thank you for mentioning the pages on the trees 😂 . I watched all of this as my daughter followed it but couldn’t exactly remember the game seeking handprints.
Loving the pace of these uploads! much love from uk
There used to be this channel that captured that unnerving horror of slenderman so well. Used to watch their videos when slenderman was at its peak. Each video would be like recovered cassette tape, kinda blair witch style, and it mostly focused on the mental anguish the people getting stalked by slendomang went through. Each video only had like a hundred views at the time so it really felt like you stumbled onto something you weren't supposed to see, and they rarely made him show up because I'm sure it was hard to edit, but when he did it was sick. No idea how they did it, and no doubt in my mind it convinced a couple people wrapped up in the hype slenderman was actually real, which is the best part.
Ayyy, actually here early for an episode! I'm excited y'all are talkin' bout a classic, haha. Hope y'all have a good day! ✌️✨️
Hate from canada ❤
Already watched the whole thing, amazing as always.
im not from the US and know little about slenderman. that slender man stabbing is horrible. felt so heavy during that part. eased up and felt glad that the child victim lived even after 19 stabs.
The intro song is such a bop! Thanks for entertaining us all with your amazing videos.
Completely off-topic but I feel like Jackson is so fun to be friends with
Every episode I look forward to Jackson’s monologues the most.
Fun fact: SCP existed almost 2 years before slender man and got a huge boost in popularity possibly due to slender man which made it seem like it came after.
I first started watching horror games when it came to Amniesia: The Dark Descent, and I remember that leading to so many new avenues of horror I'd never seen before. I was probably around 12 at the time I discovered Marble Hornets, but I've loved that series ever since. I genuinely don't think the guys gave it enough credit for how low-budget, yet in-depth and spanning it was. I recently rewatched the series - including the ToTheArk channel and all of it's videos. I remember discovering the series while it was still going and wanting more even after there were 70 entries. As a kid, I genuinely questioned if the slender man was real thanks to well-done series like this one, though I was only fearful, not wanting to become one of his victims. I remember how well the series was done using found-footage style videos, and there was almost never any speaking directly addressing the viewers, which made it so much more believable. It felt like a real life story happening somewhere, with mystery and unanswered questions and most of all - the horror that they were running from. The Marble Hornets I believe was the first really expanded lore-case for Slenderman, giving him attributes like the Slender Sickness, his mass of followers luring new victims, and they really played around with the now widely accepted "pocket dimension" theory that the Slenderman will pull victims into a different sort of limbo-dimension where he can keep them, feed on them, indoctrinate them and turn them into his sheep. There was so much good lore, production and genuine great writing that I wish the boys had focused most of the show on this series. I find almost anything related to Slenderman can be traced back to either Marble Hornets, or the limited media that existed before that.
I also don't really understand what Charlie was saying about the Eight Pages game ruining horror. Charlie must play some bottom-of-the-barrel garbage steam trash-ware horror games, because I feel like the 8 pages, as well as the then current popularity of the Amnesia series lead to the horror genre becoming more popular in general, and thus resulting in more absolutely phenominal games. Outlast, Layers of Fear, the Slender Arrival game (yes it was much better than they made it out to sound). If we're gonna talk about horror games that had a negative impact on specifically gameplay, I'd like to point out FNAF. But regardless, I don't think any of these games would've had the success, or the landscape to be successful if not for the road paved by the Slender creepypasta and the monumental path it carved through gaming, horror and the internet as a whole. I think Charlie must be thinking of the Slenderman's Shadow games being repetetive, because they were the same game as the 8 pages but in a different area, but these games were never meant to be blockbusters and were a creative homage to the original game and it's simple concept for those who wanted more after beating the original 8 pages.
Anyway, I'll stop rambling. I genuinely love this creepypasta and it was exciting to see them cover slender, though beyond the original source material I think a lot of what they covered was irrelevant, this was more of a "Culture shock" episode of The Red Thread, as they spent more time examining the impacts of Slender vs his actual likeness, lore and appearances. This is hard when most of the content created strays from the original author and is not official, but so much of it has been deemed pretty much cannon by the community you could pick a series and run with it.
One last note, it is my dream someday for Wendigoon to cover the Marble Hornets series on his channel. I know it'll likely never come, but I know his analasys would be fantastic, and hopefully garner more attention for this once prolific story and character.
The timing is impeccable
I forget what episode we're on, but the opening instrumental is still fantastic. Gets me right in the mood for the podcast.
First. Also, Wendy is a national treasure, Charlie is the original based gigachad, and Jackson and I vibe on similar places on the spectrum. God bless, boys.
How poetic
Autism Gang lol
Couldn’t explain it better myself
Nicholas Cage be like, "I'm gonna steal Wendigoon"
I have a very distinct memory of going on a walk with high school friend in 2014 and talking about the slenderman stabbings (we were around the same age as the girls in the incident); being frustrated at the panic it caused for parents who didn't want their teenagers like us reading these stories. There was a lot of edgy fanfiction out there that caused harm for people like the young perpetrators who struggled to separate fiction from reality. It was a really weird time to be a creepypasta fan
Around the same time the stabbings happened, my middle schools counselor sat me and my friend down and asked how we were doing as if we were going to something just as insane JUST because we said we would draw him in class.
I remember when slenderman blew up. I did think he was creepy, uncanny valley and I remembe rplaying the 8 pages game and it REALLY freaked me out. Slenderman was my first introduction to horror/creepypasta/cryptids. I remember that holloween there were HUNDREDS of slendermen lol. It was also the era of morph suits.
Not finished yet, but I'm surprised during the talk of the stabbings, no one mentioned how the 2 girls were trying to get to this "mansion" which is referencing the "creepypasta mansion", I think made up by some fans of the creepypasta wiki. These girls were likely exposed to majority of Slenderman lore via this fan wiki, amongst other famous creepypastas like Jeff the Killer. They were trying to get into what is essentially a bunch of preteen's fanfiction mansion.
You can hear them talk more about it from their interrogation footage, which you can find on UA-cam. These 2 girls were so disconnected from reality and I think shows what unmoderated and constant internet access can potentially do to a child. They wanted these stories to be real SO badly, they had to believe a new reality. Children need to be reminded that these stories are just stories, fun tales to get scared over, and that escapism should be left at the door the second it's time to return to daily life. They were certainly mentally ill and troubled, but children are so impressionable that I don't think that is the only reason.
Yeah too many people don't supervise their children! I wish they would at least get familiar with what they're up to online, so they can at least actually trust that they're safe. Whether physically or mentally.
I worry what the next generations will be like, so many children are raised as tablet kids these days.
i love it how it feel like im hanging out with you guys every video
1k views in 5 minutes u guys are revolutionary
It's always when I'm at my weakest, shaking and crying while feeling the worst emotions, that a Red Thread Video is released. It brightens my day every time.
Right after the workout perfect timing!
Right before my hike! Something to distract my fat ass is nice
@@chrisdaman4179 Don’t be too hard on yourself! You never truly fail until you give up; baby steps, Big Dawg. We’re rooting for you!
@@chrisdaman4179enjoy the hike gang
@@chrisdaman4179 hiking is always fun, if I’m by myself I listen to something if I’m in a group I usually don’t tho
@@chrisdaman4179keep at it man, one step at a time. You won’t believe the difference in your life. I love hiking with my dog. I’m sitting by a pond in the woods right now watching my dog play. See you on the trail partner 🫡👍
My favorite thing to come out of the Slenderverse was Habit. That Evan dude was an amazing actor.
My favorite part is when Slenderman says "It's time to get slender, man" and then slenders all over his mansion
Slenderman has to be my favorite creepypasta ever created. The whole theme is so ominous, mysterious. I am very glad the backstory was never overwritten, and only relatively little is known about it.
Bohemian Grove would fit in great here for an Episode. 🦉
As someone who was in that space on the Internet before the stabbing, sad to say they definitely were influenced by fan creations like fanfiction written by kids their age. The popular trope in fanfiction at the time was that kids from abusive homes would be approached by the idealized versions of creepypasta villains and offered a home with them as their family where the kids become evil characters themselves. It's a coping mechanism that, in combination with a tendency toward delusions, I can see how it may have led to this
ive been unproductive for the whole week, and i can only work is when listening to red thread smh
slender the arrival was SO good. imo it still holds up today. scared me shitless as a kid and its a lot of fun as an adult, plus the story and the supplementary content were so immersive and atmospheric. great memories
Saturday mornings are fun again
The arg that got me into creepypasta and slenderman was Everyman hybrid. Even in highschool I made an EMH shirt and sevral of the creators liked it on Twitter and I was so pummed.
Wendigoon the type of guy to be hunted by Slenderman and say "he's right behind me, isnt he?"
I used to look forward to the end of the week for the official podcast but I'm excited for the red thread