@@TheRubyTuesday do you have any idea if there are differences between the novel and the series its really important for me find this out ( its for school), i need your help...
I would say that Majas family is upper-class as well, but Sebastians family is way richer than hers still. It's really only Samirs family who is lower-class. I thought it was a fascinating story, very real and therefore very gruesome; as school shootings are. I really feel for Maja, she was left to battle these very complex issues of drug abuse, domestic abuse and self worth all by herself, and she was just a teenager. No one saw what she was torn between, not even her own parents. The series also brings up questions regarding parenting. It's very common for Swedish parents to feel that they don't want to "intrude" on their almost-adult children, even though that's when they need the most guidance. This is a truly brilliant writing.
You're right I personally feel like the parents could of done more. During the series I saw these teens doing such things that teens here in America are not allowed to do it's like they were already living as grown ups.
@@fritzajacquet6212 I was shocked when she was sleeping with Sebastian on the yacht, then got up, put on a t-shirt and went to his dad wearing just panties and a t-shirt. No shame whatsoever. Sex, drugs, alcohol at just 17 - horrible...the dresses she wore to those parties ... omg
@@myvictory8294 yes the whole thing just got me shocked but some people say that's how it really be in Sweden 🤷🏾♀️. I guess we were just raised differently from them.
I hiiiiiiighly recommend everyone to watch Quicksand, honestly it made me so emotional (omg ep 3) and I literally could not stop watching. Honestly kinda wanna rewatch it already haha. And throughout the series I could not figure out if I was on Maja's side or not, like somehow i did feel bad for her, and at some point I did believe her (about the Amanda part) but at the end of the day it's word against word on cases like this.
no its not words against words. its called ballistics u can clearly see what bullet is shot from what gun. this is such a shit series. i knew what happened and how it was gonna play ou the first 10 minutes of this shit show...
LightYard did you even see the last episode? There was never any question about Amanda being shot by the gun Maja held. She didn’t deny it and the ballistics and fingerprints proved it. The question was if it was intentional or not, which couldn’t be proven by ballistics.
Well, honestly I didn't really like the characters(Maybe cause im Swedish) but everyone hyped it so much that I kept watching. Ended up waiting for the characters to die in the shooting and almost no one important did die in the end.
I am french but grew up in Sweden. As soon as I started the series I asked my friend if she new about it: she had already finished it. I already feel like this will be one of those things swedes will look at like it's their duty to watch, as they usually do when anything swedish or about sweden comes out. The only thing is that, as I told my friend, I don't think "foreigners" will quite understand how truly this portrays the upper classes in sweden. Although we are usually seen as an example to follow in term of gender equality, equal pay etc... there is a real gap in the swedish social class, nobody talks about it but one can definitely feel it. The way they dress, the racist comments, the mentality, the lack of boundaries amongst teens...let me tell you everything is disturbingly realistic and raises questions many swedes and myself had never dared to ask ourselves.
I was so impressed by the storytelling and acting! Its a great series in the sense that it is well made. The subject is a tough one tho. However I think it did what 13 Reasons why should have done: It didnt romanticise the gruesome parts (QS: The school shooting / 13RW: the sucide and other things). It showed it in a realistic way and explained the reasoning of the characters very well. I encourage everyone to watch it. It isnt overly or unnessecery explicit either.
@@TheRubyTuesday I absolutly did. The acting and storyline was very intriguing. I also loved the fact that it is Swedish. That said, as you said. I don't know if it should exist since the message is so real, cold and terrefying. The episodes really leave you in the dark and makes you wan't to understand who is good and who is bad. I found the constant random camera zooms and fast pans to be quite distracting though haha. Thanks for making the video!
@@TheRubyTuesday Sorry for joining the thread a bit late, but as a swede i think i could add a bit here for context. Sweden hasnt really had a school shooting yet however it is still has a huge precense on our society because of media. So the author has taken that to analyse issues that are not necessarily connected to school shooting only. Economical segregation has a huge part in the story and is a massive issue here. Also swedes arent known for opening up about their struggles which is a mayor theme in the story. Maintaining a facade is more important than asking for help. Maja is forced to stay in a situation she cant handle. Other important subject are how the media portrays an alleged criminal, how dehumanizing jail can be and also that we never know to full truth of a tragedy.
SPOILERS YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED SPOILERS YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED It is established in the end that she is set free and relived of all charges. However it is showed that she did kill Amanda, even though she tried to kill Sabastien. This would still be considerd Manslaughter. Why was she not charged with manslaughter?
I would think it was because she was trying to act in self defense and in that act one could argue she was trying to save herself Amanda and sahir. She tragically killed Amanda in the process which although wrong. The issue is the stress and trauma of the situation, how could she be expected to act perfectly in a situation like this. So many people just freeze all together. I honestly feel it wouldn't be right to charge her simply because it happened during self defense, and if hadn't acted Amanda would have likely been shot anyway. And also there's already been so much death y incarcerate her because she survived. There is no perfect surivior.
I think it’s in part self defense like everyone is saying, but I think you need to know that the Swedish judiciary system is going give a sentence based on how likely the person is of committing another crime. Prison in Sweden is not a punishment it’s meant to rehabilitate which is why you usually get further education done or work in prison, it’s pretty much the same over Scandinavia.
@@gunnn58193 are you kidding me?? She knew how to handle a rifle: her grandfather taught her to do it and she quite enjoyed killing that deer. She couldn't wait to get her hunting license. She was standing right in front of Sebastian and still missed. That's ridiculous. Also I can't understand how come she never questioned Sebastian on what the heck was in those 2 bags! She was totally guilty and should have been put to prison. Her whole character is rotten.
@@myvictory8294 A few questions before I answer, are you Swedish? Are you familiar with the swedish laws? Do you have an idea about the laws about intent?
Maja and Sebastion’s storyline is fantastic. Such a gripping series. Really dense stuff though so be prepared. Tackles a ton of topics, specifically the effects of abusive relationships, class differences, and media influence.
Binge watched it this night. No regrets. As a soon-to-be lawyer the lawyer‘s final speech was very inspiring to me. Also the acting is just great. The topic of school shootings is very difficult but I don’t feel like it’s being played down at all 10/10 would watch again
took me 2 days and that was only for the reason that it was 04.00 in the morning so i sorta had to stop haha! Incredibly gripping story and well made. Super happy to see Netflix doing a swedish series. As a swede I've never seen a series that has been this gripping and well made. It's a really sad story and as you said it's a bit of a gut punch. Not gonna lie, I could feel the lump in my throat from time to time.
Everyone in this series (except Samir) is upper-class. Djursholm in Stockholm is a rich area, and so the series is meant to contain a lot of social commentary about Swedish upper-class society: * How an obvious sociopath like Claes (Sebastian's father) can thrive and be respected because of his wealth, all while completely failing to do even the basic minimum of parenthood with Sebastian. * How a self-destructive teenager like Sebastian can throw expensive parties with drugs, all while his "friends" are only along for the ride as long as they get some fun. * How serious problems are expected to be solved "in quiet" and out of view of everyone else. * How it becomes the role of a woman to "fix" a broken soul like Sebastian - even if the "woman" in this case is just a 17-year old girl. * How Maja only considers the intelligent and passionate, yet lower-class 2nd gen immigrant, Samir as a potential love-interest *once her relationship with the rich but highly problematic Sebastian has completely collapsed.* * How quick people are to resort to racist insults once they feel enough emotional turmoil (both Seb's "calling out" of Samir's family at dinner and Maja's berating of one of her lawyers as only being "yet another affirmative-action dago".
It was very refreshing to watch something non American. Sweden did a great job. The plot was quite typical but everything else was interesting and emotional. I felt sorry for Samir.
I just watched this.. since I dont speak swedish I was kind of forced to concentrate to watch the screen all the time since I have to read the subtitles..Good story.. it showed me a different aspect of Sweden in terms of as you also mentioned about the ”class system”it was interesting.. The scenes in court was so fascinating to watch in the perspective of how it works in Sweden. it was ”calm” vs what I usually see court scenes in US shows where if feels like they shout ”ojection your honor” often.. I should have not binged watched this but I wanted to know what happened...
@@suck634 I was curious to hear what the dubs sounded like, and the english dub sounds really bad. I think they would've been better off to get a native english speaking dub. I don't think it's good to watch dubs, it ruins the play. Like Casa de Papel, 3% and so forth, are really terrible to watch in english dub, and need to be left with their original language on.
Honestly I loved this series so much and I really hope for a season 2 that follows her recovery from everything that happened. She didn’t get the help that her attorney was suggesting in the prison except for seeing the priest and you could definitely tell this took a huge toll on her. Of course it goes without saying that when you go through all of this trauma that severe PTSD is very likely and I really want to see how she recovers and see if she is even strong enough to even recover enough to live her life.
I binge watched it, cried a couple times but my 15 year old self handled it pretty well. I fell right in to the story and the acting was just incredible!
No figures but she definitely had a friend from the lower class system as they said in the series. And she was well off but her boyfriends very wealthy. But I get what you are staying. Thanks for watching the review and commenting.
@@TheRubyTuesday oh absolutely !! The characters are spot on .. I loved the area but I did not really get along with the people... Especially my age at that time (18/19) it's all actually filmed there as well!! (Apart from the school building)
I loved this show, i think it’s so well done and I’m Swedish so it was super excited to see a Swedish Netflix original. Just wanted to let you know that Maja really isn’t from a lower class family. Of course I haven’t read the book but by what they show on Netflix and by living Sweden and seeing different class differences, I’d say she’s upper class and he’s even richer than they are. Other than that, great review!! 😎
Since the ending pretty much concluded what season 1 followed, does anyone think there will be a season 2? This series was amazing! The acting is so surreal... I would love for Netflix to continue the series but what would be the premise...
JASUASIAN they could do a second series with fallout for Maya and her family trying to reintegrate into the world again when everyone still has the opinion that Maja is a killer.
In Swedish the series is named " Greatest of all" (Störst av allt) I just now try to find out why its called that. Quicksand is more direct 🌷 nice review!
Loved the series but I have to recommend the book, it’s more in-depth and detailed when it comes to Majas feelings and recollection of the events that led up to the school shooting and the shooting in it self, it is a bit darker in emotions then the series, but it is so worth it.
It was definetly hard to watch, yes. But I don't have seen many series that affected and touched me this deeply. The way the story was told and the way it was filmed made me feel as if the series spoke my language
Good review. Although, Maja's family is far from lower class. More like higher middle-class or upper class. They drive a new, expensive Mercedes, have a nice house and are generally well off
Very rarely these days does a series keep me guessing right up to the end. I had no sense of what was going to happen, and frankly I don’t think many courts would have ruled how this one did. Maybe it’s a European thing. One thing is for sure, this series would have been 1 episode had it taken place in the US: 1. charged w/ multiple homicides in a school shooting 2. the prosecution offers 14 years 3. the defendant realizes they could get 20 years for stealing a car w/ an unloaded gun in her pocket 4. takes deal happily 5. roll credits.
Sinkor22 I was referring to the US legal system, because that is the only one I am familiar with. Judges don’t decide criminal cases here, juries do. And it’s much easier to determine self-defense on a television show than in real life. In the US, even if she had shot and killed her friend accidentally that still warrants a manslaughter charge. Deals are way more common here as well. Most people don’t know that, but in the US 94% of felony criminal cases are resolved via plea bargain (deals). Only 6% are ruled on by a jury.
Sinkor22 They didn’t call it manslaughter in the show, right? I remember her being charged w/ 3 crimes 1. Murder 2. Attempted Murder 3. Incitement to Murder (?) I can’t remember if the third is right, but something like that, right? And I understand the how the judge reached that decision, I was just saying that no judge in real life could have been that confident about the self-defense claim. In most cases, having an eye-witness testifying that she shot her friend twice in the chest from close distance would not likely be overcome by the obscured line of sight defense. Not a big deal. Have you seen “The Night Of” on HBO? It was a 7 or 8 part mini-series about a murder investigation in NYC and the suspect’s time at Riker’s Island awaiting his trial? It is phenomenal.
Sinkor22 I think since the prosecution was going for a straight murder charge, 14 years would seem to be very lenient. Seems like the sentence would more match a lesser crime.
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Your review really did the series justice! It hits you in the guts, but I think one of the things with it is that school shootings in Sweden, where the story takes place, is not common. We had a horrible school attack in 2015, with a knife and sword (if I remember correctly), but not with guns.
I think for Americans this could be a pass, simply cause we have so many school shootings happen for real. Similar to how I avoid anything 9/11 related because I was a kid in new york when it happened and my brothers were Marines who went to fight that war. But getting that out of the way, despite how some may feel. This series is tentatively honest about all events involved here. I won't get into spoilers but I really did appreciate this being yet another series aside from Jessica Jones that gets the "loving abuser" right on screen. So much of this harkened back to my experiences, so much so I found my self audiably telling sebastion to fuck off sometimes when he was on screen. Even her best friend, a victim sure but she encouraged her to stay, as a woman we've all had that convo happen right? The one where we r encouraged to suffer through our man and save him. Even small moments like that hit hard if uve ever walked those shoes.the series writers really did their psychological homework here and revealed sebastion for what he was slowly and gracefully. The only issue I had was the fact that they were trying to charge her with essentially everything which is unreasonable to believe since they barely had any evidence to begin with. I've always said this is how u tackle this topic. It should never be an event film a la van sants "elephant" but an aftermath film like "home room". Another interesting watch for people who enjoyed this would be the Australian film "2:37".
This is why I love film and tv when it has something to say and does it right. It effects on an emotional level. Glad you found it and thanks for watching the review and commenting.
I hadn’t even really heard of this - I loved 13 Reasons Why, so definitely intrigued after this review and people comparing it to that! Will definitely check this out. Great review!
I didn’t think it was that dark. It’s important to see how people can be sucked into something like she did. Important topics like relational abuse and mental illness. A rich cautionary tale for society.
Really well done miniseries (even though am not a big fan of the shaky cam). It does touch on social issues which are often swept under the carpet in Sweden (have been living there for 6 years now). Regarding the storyline, the end was a bit anticlimactic though. It started truly gripping and sinister and then went downhill in the last 3 episodes or so. I was expecting more dark family secrets unfolding, with Sebastian's disappearing mother etc. I can understand why Sebastian shot his father. But to randomly go into the classroom and shoot 2 people who happened to be there? He did not even know who would be sitting there. He was hardly ever in school himself. Why would he shoot them? Especially after shooting his father? Is it just explained away by his mentally deranged state? But good acting and casting for sure. Some famous older Swedish actors were there, Samir is a UA-camr and Sebastian was in a boy band if i am not mistaken.
I read the book about a week ago and maybe the reason is because all the reason because people use to love Sebastian was his dad. When his dad just decided to abandon him Sebastian gets mad and kill him because that was the only thing that he can do well on his own. Its a bit sad if you think about it, that the only thing that you can do well is destroy others.
Edit Spoiler Alert*** Great but the ending was very underwhelming. Was expecting a twist, that she was actually a monster type thing. Not 'oh she was telling the truth the whole time' so just absolutely nothing. Rubbish ending that felt very much like it was written in a way to have a big reveal but the big reveal was just what she was saying the entire time. No reveal. Big positive for the series as a whole, big negative for the last 15 minutes of it
Above all I was really intrigued by how this is more of a character study of super rich kids who have no real sense of responsibility and grow up almost without the right tools to survive on their own once they’re out of their parents’ nest and find themselves faced with adult responsibilities. I thought Maja was a prime example of that (even though I’m only one episode away from finishing the series, I think her character says a lot regarding this). She seemed a bit naïve throughout the series, from her toxic relationship with Sebastian all the way through her arrest. It’s like she was unaware of the consequences of her actions until it was too late.
I thought this show was very much well done. I do feel that aspect of it being more dark and cold but I did continue to watch it. I find the actors and storyline and everything was done very mannered and respectful. I read a comment about comparing it to 13 reasons why which gave me the dark feeling as well but more of a nasty feeling after rather than this where I am still intrigued. 13 reasons why did not handle the top at all times in a mannered way and it’s portrayal but I do find this show did a very good job.
I hope it will have a season 2 that we can see how maya come back in the social life and back to school, how she handle the situation and if the people accept her
Maja is not low class. She and her family is an upper-class family. They’re are probably in the top 8% of the wealthiest in Sweden. Sebastian however is VERY high-class, top 1%. Samir is the low class here who goes to an upper-class school. But yeah, the wealth amongst the wealthy goes up exponentially so Maja is kinda low class to Sebastian and Samir is non existent to him (think the scene from Labbe’s family dinner). So for an average family like Samir, Maja is very high class.
I totally agree with you! I watched the series in two days in a row, but I was really hesitant whether I could finish it. But my curiosity got the better of me and so I finished it. I wanted to know what had happened and how it would end. And the fact that I was hesitant to finish it was because the series is so dark and depressing, but it had nothing to do with the storyline or the acting. The storyline and the acting were brilliant! Amazing! But for the coming days, I need to watch a comedy or something.
I watched all 6 episodes in one go. And I really liked it! And to a Swede, such as my myself, it was great to see so many big Swedish actors amongst the adults. Actors that have been in the business a long time, both in film and other tv-series. =D
Pao Roliaz I don’t remember which movies/tv-shows they were in, because it is so many, but you can always google. So I’m just gonna say who they play in Quicksand. 😄 Any way, hear they are. Shanti Roney (the techer), Sven Wolter ( Maja’s grandfather), Helena af Sandeberg (Amanda’s mom), Samuel Fröler (that friend’s dad. The friend that witnessed over camera), Reuben Sallmander (Sebastian’s dad), Maria Sundbom (the accuser lawyer) and Louise Edlind Friberg (Sebastian’s sort of nanny). 😊
Binge watched it but i didn’t like their acting in the beginning, except for felix. Imo it wasn’t that great and i disliked the storyline bc it was kinda boring.
@@TheRubyTuesday finished with the last episode... Very realistically made court room climax...as you said, the highlight of this is the actors.... Special credit to the public prosecutor and the defence lawyer ... And of course...the soundtrack / background music was top class...maintained the heaviness throughout 👍👌
It didn’t look like that to me. Also if you watch the scene again you’ll notice that she readjusts her aim after hitting Amanda to make sure she hits him next. We’re also told that she is a very good precise shooter throughout the show
I actually thought the exact same thing (thought I was the only one lol). It looked like she shot Amanda on purpose an after this she shot Sebastian... I was kinda shooked but it is a great plot twist...
This show was amazing but I was confused by the ending .. when she shot her friend and then Sebastian was it on purpose or accident? She got her hunting license so I was mad confused. Someone pls explain:)
!!! SPOILER!!! Maja was in shock because she wasn't aware of Sebastian's plan. He was also aiming the gun directly at her head, so she was probably stressed and also in shock, that's why she accidentally shot Amanda.
Saw everything in one go, and I'm really impressed by the storyline and the acting.
Acting was great. Story was based off a novel. So I'm interested to see if much has been changed
@@TheRubyTuesday do you have any idea if there are differences between the novel and the series its really important for me find this out ( its for school), i need your help...
I would say that Majas family is upper-class as well, but Sebastians family is way richer than hers still. It's really only Samirs family who is lower-class.
I thought it was a fascinating story, very real and therefore very gruesome; as school shootings are. I really feel for Maja, she was left to battle these very complex issues of drug abuse, domestic abuse and self worth all by herself, and she was just a teenager. No one saw what she was torn between, not even her own parents. The series also brings up questions regarding parenting. It's very common for Swedish parents to feel that they don't want to "intrude" on their almost-adult children, even though that's when they need the most guidance. This is a truly brilliant writing.
You're right I personally feel like the parents could of done more. During the series I saw these teens doing such things that teens here in America are not allowed to do it's like they were already living as grown ups.
@@fritzajacquet6212 this is how it is in Sweden.
@@strategictechcoaching9586 really?? Had no idea.
@@fritzajacquet6212 I was shocked when she was sleeping with Sebastian on the yacht, then got up, put on a t-shirt and went to his dad wearing just panties and a t-shirt. No shame whatsoever. Sex, drugs, alcohol at just 17 - horrible...the dresses she wore to those parties ... omg
@@myvictory8294 yes the whole thing just got me shocked but some people say that's how it really be in Sweden 🤷🏾♀️. I guess we were just raised differently from them.
I hiiiiiiighly recommend everyone to watch Quicksand, honestly it made me so emotional (omg ep 3) and I literally could not stop watching. Honestly kinda wanna rewatch it already haha. And throughout the series I could not figure out if I was on Maja's side or not, like somehow i did feel bad for her, and at some point I did believe her (about the Amanda part) but at the end of the day it's word against word on cases like this.
no its not words against words. its called ballistics u can clearly see what bullet is shot from what gun. this is such a shit series. i knew what happened and how it was gonna play ou the first 10 minutes of this shit show...
LightYard did you even see the last episode? There was never any question about Amanda being shot by the gun Maja held. She didn’t deny it and the ballistics and fingerprints proved it. The question was if it was intentional or not, which couldn’t be proven by ballistics.
@@lightyard3309 Ballistics doesn't confirm if it was an intentional kill which is sorta the core premiss for the last 2 episodes...
Its not English i don’t understand nothin they sayin
Well, honestly I didn't really like the characters(Maybe cause im Swedish) but everyone hyped it so much that I kept watching. Ended up waiting for the characters to die in the shooting and almost no one important did die in the end.
I am french but grew up in Sweden. As soon as I started the series I asked my friend if she new about it: she had already finished it. I already feel like this will be one of those things swedes will look at like it's their duty to watch, as they usually do when anything swedish or about sweden comes out. The only thing is that, as I told my friend, I don't think "foreigners" will quite understand how truly this portrays the upper classes in sweden. Although we are usually seen as an example to follow in term of gender equality, equal pay etc... there is a real gap in the swedish social class, nobody talks about it but one can definitely feel it. The way they dress, the racist comments, the mentality, the lack of boundaries amongst teens...let me tell you everything is disturbingly realistic and raises questions many swedes and myself had never dared to ask ourselves.
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The class structure and behavior is the same in the American South. I found it very genuine and relatable.
@@a.delattree.1392 The whole setting with mansions and actual fucking estates is because quite a few of the people in the series are actual nobility.
i was awake the whole night just to watch the entire serie. the best choice i've ever done
Glad to hear you enjoyed it.
I was so impressed by the storytelling and acting! Its a great series in the sense that it is well made. The subject is a tough one tho. However I think it did what 13 Reasons why should have done: It didnt romanticise the gruesome parts (QS: The school shooting / 13RW: the sucide and other things). It showed it in a realistic way and explained the reasoning of the characters very well. I encourage everyone to watch it. It isnt overly or unnessecery explicit either.
Very well said. There was no fakeness here. Very real. Thanks for watching the review and commenting.
Just finished it in one sitting and am now enjoying the gut punsh. I needed to hear someone else talk about it. That's why I'm here.. Thanks :')
Did you enjoy it? Thanks for watching the review.
@@TheRubyTuesday I absolutly did. The acting and storyline was very intriguing. I also loved the fact that it is Swedish. That said, as you said. I don't know if it should exist since the message is so real, cold and terrefying. The episodes really leave you in the dark and makes you wan't to understand who is good and who is bad. I found the constant random camera zooms and fast pans to be quite distracting though haha. Thanks for making the video!
@@davidzwitser7181 thanks for watching the review. I agree like I said... Not sure it should exist.
@@TheRubyTuesday Sorry for joining the thread a bit late, but as a swede i think i could add a bit here for context. Sweden hasnt really had a school shooting yet however it is still has a huge precense on our society because of media. So the author has taken that to analyse issues that are not necessarily connected to school shooting only. Economical segregation has a huge part in the story and is a massive issue here. Also swedes arent known for opening up about their struggles which is a mayor theme in the story. Maintaining a facade is more important than asking for help. Maja is forced to stay in a situation she cant handle. Other important subject are how the media portrays an alleged criminal, how dehumanizing jail can be and also that we never know to full truth of a tragedy.
@@TalexProductions Those are great points, Thanks. Very interesting.
Sucha good serie and storyline, proud swede here!
You should be. It's well crafted.
Agreed. I've never seen such a well-made swedish series which makes me super happy. Hopefully it will up the anté for upcomming swedish series!
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It is established in the end that she is set free and relived of all charges. However it is showed that she did kill Amanda, even though she tried to kill Sabastien. This would still be considerd Manslaughter. Why was she not charged with manslaughter?
I would think it was because she was trying to act in self defense and in that act one could argue she was trying to save herself Amanda and sahir. She tragically killed Amanda in the process which although wrong. The issue is the stress and trauma of the situation, how could she be expected to act perfectly in a situation like this. So many people just freeze all together. I honestly feel it wouldn't be right to charge her simply because it happened during self defense, and if hadn't acted Amanda would have likely been shot anyway. And also there's already been so much death y incarcerate her because she survived. There is no perfect surivior.
Self defense, she was not used to using weapons so she could easily miss
I think it’s in part self defense like everyone is saying, but I think you need to know that the Swedish judiciary system is going give a sentence based on how likely the person is of committing another crime. Prison in Sweden is not a punishment it’s meant to rehabilitate which is why you usually get further education done or work in prison, it’s pretty much the same over Scandinavia.
@@gunnn58193 are you kidding me?? She knew how to handle a rifle: her grandfather taught her to do it and she quite enjoyed killing that deer. She couldn't wait to get her hunting license. She was standing right in front of Sebastian and still missed. That's ridiculous. Also I can't understand how come she never questioned Sebastian on what the heck was in those 2 bags! She was totally guilty and should have been put to prison. Her whole character is rotten.
@@myvictory8294 A few questions before I answer, are you Swedish? Are you familiar with the swedish laws? Do you have an idea about the laws about intent?
Maja and Sebastion’s storyline is fantastic. Such a gripping series. Really dense stuff though so be prepared. Tackles a ton of topics, specifically the effects of abusive relationships, class differences, and media influence.
Binge watched it this night. No regrets. As a soon-to-be lawyer the lawyer‘s final speech was very inspiring to me. Also the acting is just great. The topic of school shootings is very difficult but I don’t feel like it’s being played down at all
10/10 would watch again
Fabian one day ill be a lawyer like him
took me 2 days and that was only for the reason that it was 04.00 in the morning so i sorta had to stop haha! Incredibly gripping story and well made. Super happy to see Netflix doing a swedish series. As a swede I've never seen a series that has been this gripping and well made. It's a really sad story and as you said it's a bit of a gut punch. Not gonna lie, I could feel the lump in my throat from time to time.
Everyone in this series (except Samir) is upper-class. Djursholm in Stockholm is a rich area, and so the series is meant to contain a lot of social commentary about Swedish upper-class society:
* How an obvious sociopath like Claes (Sebastian's father) can thrive and be respected because of his wealth, all while completely failing to do even the basic minimum of parenthood with Sebastian.
* How a self-destructive teenager like Sebastian can throw expensive parties with drugs, all while his "friends" are only along for the ride as long as they get some fun.
* How serious problems are expected to be solved "in quiet" and out of view of everyone else.
* How it becomes the role of a woman to "fix" a broken soul like Sebastian - even if the "woman" in this case is just a 17-year old girl.
* How Maja only considers the intelligent and passionate, yet lower-class 2nd gen immigrant, Samir as a potential love-interest *once her relationship with the rich but highly problematic Sebastian has completely collapsed.*
* How quick people are to resort to racist insults once they feel enough emotional turmoil (both Seb's "calling out" of Samir's family at dinner and Maja's berating of one of her lawyers as only being "yet another affirmative-action dago".
It was very refreshing to watch something non American. Sweden did a great job. The plot was quite typical but everything else was interesting and emotional. I felt sorry for Samir.
I just watched this.. since I dont speak swedish I was kind of forced to concentrate to watch the screen all the time since I have to read the subtitles..Good story.. it showed me a different aspect of Sweden in terms of as you also mentioned about the ”class system”it was interesting.. The scenes in court was so fascinating to watch in the perspective of how it works in Sweden. it was ”calm” vs what I usually see court scenes in US shows where if feels like they shout ”ojection your honor” often.. I should have not binged watched this but I wanted to know what happened...
you could just switch on the english dub..the actors read their lines in english so you will hear their real voices...
@@suck634 I was curious to hear what the dubs sounded like, and the english dub sounds really bad. I think they would've been better off to get a native english speaking dub.
I don't think it's good to watch dubs, it ruins the play. Like Casa de Papel, 3% and so forth, are really terrible to watch in english dub, and need to be left with their original language on.
@@muuubiee hahaha yeah was curious too, you are correct hehe...
In the Swedish court system they have to be as neutral as possible, that usually includes not showing emotion.
Honestly I loved this series so much and I really hope for a season 2 that follows her recovery from everything that happened. She didn’t get the help that her attorney was suggesting in the prison except for seeing the priest and you could definitely tell this took a huge toll on her. Of course it goes without saying that when you go through all of this trauma that severe PTSD is very likely and I really want to see how she recovers and see if she is even strong enough to even recover enough to live her life.
If there's a season 2 it'll be new characters, new story. This story is definitely complete
I binge watched it, cried a couple times but my 15 year old self handled it pretty well. I fell right in to the story and the acting was just incredible!
Couldn't watch it all at once. I get really effected by stuff like this l. Very well acted.
Ok he is well of but Maja is from Djursholm herself believe me that is not lower class at all hahahaha loved the review tho'
No figures but she definitely had a friend from the lower class system as they said in the series. And she was well off but her boyfriends very wealthy. But I get what you are staying. Thanks for watching the review and commenting.
@@odoibe3620 you're right. (I lived there )
@@toetiepaars1534 you lived there. So do you think it accurately got it right?
@@TheRubyTuesday oh absolutely !! The characters are spot on .. I loved the area but I did not really get along with the people... Especially my age at that time (18/19) it's all actually filmed there as well!! (Apart from the school building)
toetie paars which is interesting...what age are they meant to be depicting?
I loved this show, i think it’s so well done and I’m Swedish so it was super excited to see a Swedish Netflix original.
Just wanted to let you know that Maja really isn’t from a lower class family. Of course I haven’t read the book but by what they show on Netflix and by living Sweden and seeing different class differences, I’d say she’s upper class and he’s even richer than they are.
Other than that, great review!! 😎
Since the ending pretty much concluded what season 1 followed, does anyone think there will be a season 2? This series was amazing! The acting is so surreal... I would love for Netflix to continue the series but what would be the premise...
JASUASIAN they could do a second series with fallout for Maya and her family trying to reintegrate into the world again when everyone still has the opinion that Maja is a killer.
Very realistic and dark story, the dark aspects of the teenagers as you will. Well acted, just generally a very good production.
In Swedish the series is named " Greatest of all" (Störst av allt) I just now try to find out why its called that. Quicksand is more direct 🌷 nice review!
Thanks for watching and the interesting comment. It was a great series.
Quote from the book:
"People say the greatest of all is love. That's not true. The greatest of all is fear."
Watched it in one sitting and I am crying my eyes out. Very nice show. Really liked the main character's acting
And the actor of Sebastian (Felix sandman) is his first role
Also Samir is that comedian UA-camr dude
Loved the series but I have to recommend the book, it’s more in-depth and detailed when it comes to Majas feelings and recollection of the events that led up to the school shooting and the shooting in it self, it is a bit darker in emotions then the series, but it is so worth it.
elin söderqvist who tf reads books
Arexx educated people, so obviously not you
You are right about that thumbs down person...wow!
Oh yeah, at least they are consistent. It takes some dedication to be there for all my videos. Kudos to them.
It was definetly hard to watch, yes. But I don't have seen many series that affected and touched me this deeply. The way the story was told and the way it was filmed made me feel as if the series spoke my language
Glad you enjoyed it.
Good review. Although, Maja's family is far from lower class. More like higher middle-class or upper class. They drive a new, expensive Mercedes, have a nice house and are generally well off
Very rarely these days does a series keep me guessing right up to the end. I had no sense of what was going to happen, and frankly I don’t think many courts would have ruled how this one did. Maybe it’s a European thing. One thing is for sure, this series would have been 1 episode had it taken place in the US:
1. charged w/ multiple homicides in a school shooting
2. the prosecution offers 14 years
3. the defendant realizes they could get 20 years for stealing a car w/ an unloaded gun in her pocket
4. takes deal happily
5. roll credits.
yeah, I was of the same mind. I was sure she was going to jail.
Sinkor22 I was referring to the US legal system, because that is the only one I am familiar with. Judges don’t decide criminal cases here, juries do. And it’s much easier to determine self-defense on a television show than in real life. In the US, even if she had shot and killed her friend accidentally that still warrants a manslaughter charge. Deals are way more common here as well. Most people don’t know that, but in the US 94% of felony criminal cases are resolved via plea bargain (deals). Only 6% are ruled on by a jury.
Sinkor22 They didn’t call it manslaughter in the show, right? I remember her being charged w/ 3 crimes 1. Murder 2. Attempted Murder 3. Incitement to Murder (?)
I can’t remember if the third is right, but something like that, right? And I understand the how the judge reached that decision, I was just saying that no judge in real life could have been that confident about the self-defense claim. In most cases, having an eye-witness testifying that she shot her friend twice in the chest from close distance would not likely be overcome by the obscured line of sight defense. Not a big deal.
Have you seen “The Night Of” on HBO? It was a 7 or 8 part mini-series about a murder investigation in NYC and the suspect’s time at Riker’s Island awaiting his trial? It is phenomenal.
Sinkor22 I think since the prosecution was going for a straight murder charge, 14 years would seem to be very lenient. Seems like the sentence would more match a lesser crime.
Your review really did the series justice! It hits you in the guts, but I think one of the things with it is that school shootings in Sweden, where the story takes place, is not common. We had a horrible school attack in 2015, with a knife and sword (if I remember correctly), but not with guns.
Thank you. It's a very real story.
Last school shooting we had was 1961. So yea its not common.
I think for Americans this could be a pass, simply cause we have so many school shootings happen for real. Similar to how I avoid anything 9/11 related because I was a kid in new york when it happened and my brothers were Marines who went to fight that war. But getting that out of the way, despite how some may feel. This series is tentatively honest about all events involved here. I won't get into spoilers but I really did appreciate this being yet another series aside from Jessica Jones that gets the "loving abuser" right on screen. So much of this harkened back to my experiences, so much so I found my self audiably telling sebastion to fuck off sometimes when he was on screen. Even her best friend, a victim sure but she encouraged her to stay, as a woman we've all had that convo happen right? The one where we r encouraged to suffer through our man and save him. Even small moments like that hit hard if uve ever walked those shoes.the series writers really did their psychological homework here and revealed sebastion for what he was slowly and gracefully. The only issue I had was the fact that they were trying to charge her with essentially everything which is unreasonable to believe since they barely had any evidence to begin with. I've always said this is how u tackle this topic. It should never be an event film a la van sants "elephant" but an aftermath film like "home room". Another interesting watch for people who enjoyed this would be the Australian film "2:37".
This is why I love film and tv when it has something to say and does it right. It effects on an emotional level. Glad you found it and thanks for watching the review and commenting.
Good show, it puts me in the mind of The Sinner.
As an American from the Columbine generation, I don’t think other Americans would find it that disturbing, but it is a great show!
I hadn’t even really heard of this - I loved 13 Reasons Why, so definitely intrigued after this review and people comparing it to that! Will definitely check this out. Great review!
It's dark. Was difficult to watch but 13 reasons is along the same line.
I found the series pretty good, but I would like it even more if it worked more about the end
All of them were pretty wealthy except for Samir, Sebastian was just crazy rich, like Iron Man or Batman kinda rich.
I didn’t think it was that dark. It’s important to see how people can be sucked into something like she did. Important topics like relational abuse and mental illness. A rich cautionary tale for society.
Really well done miniseries (even though am not a big fan of the shaky cam). It does touch on social issues which are often swept under the carpet in Sweden (have been living there for 6 years now). Regarding the storyline, the end was a bit anticlimactic though. It started truly gripping and sinister and then went downhill in the last 3 episodes or so. I was expecting more dark family secrets unfolding, with Sebastian's disappearing mother etc. I can understand why Sebastian shot his father. But to randomly go into the classroom and shoot 2 people who happened to be there? He did not even know who would be sitting there. He was hardly ever in school himself. Why would he shoot them? Especially after shooting his father? Is it just explained away by his mentally deranged state? But good acting and casting for sure. Some famous older Swedish actors were there, Samir is a UA-camr and Sebastian was in a boy band if i am not mistaken.
I read the book about a week ago and maybe the reason is because all the reason because people use to love Sebastian was his dad. When his dad just decided to abandon him Sebastian gets mad and kill him because that was the only thing that he can do well on his own. Its a bit sad if you think about it, that the only thing that you can do well is destroy others.
Edit Spoiler Alert***
Great but the ending was very underwhelming. Was expecting a twist, that she was actually a monster type thing. Not 'oh she was telling the truth the whole time' so just absolutely nothing. Rubbish ending that felt very much like it was written in a way to have a big reveal but the big reveal was just what she was saying the entire time. No reveal. Big positive for the series as a whole, big negative for the last 15 minutes of it
Above all I was really intrigued by how this is more of a character study of super rich kids who have no real sense of responsibility and grow up almost without the right tools to survive on their own once they’re out of their parents’ nest and find themselves faced with adult responsibilities. I thought Maja was a prime example of that (even though I’m only one episode away from finishing the series, I think her character says a lot regarding this). She seemed a bit naïve throughout the series, from her toxic relationship with Sebastian all the way through her arrest. It’s like she was unaware of the consequences of her actions until it was too late.
I thought this show was very much well done. I do feel that aspect of it being more dark and cold but I did continue to watch it. I find the actors and storyline and everything was done very mannered and respectful. I read a comment about comparing it to 13 reasons why which gave me the dark feeling as well but more of a nasty feeling after rather than this where I am still intrigued. 13 reasons why did not handle the top at all times in a mannered way and it’s portrayal but I do find this show did a very good job.
I'm really glad to hear that people are enjoying the swedish show :)
The Hunter it's amazing!!
It was SO GOOD
I hope it will have a season 2 that we can see how maya come back in the social life and back to school, how she handle the situation and if the people accept her
There is only one book though.
Maja is not low class. She and her family is an upper-class family. They’re are probably in the top 8% of the wealthiest in Sweden. Sebastian however is VERY high-class, top 1%. Samir is the low class here who goes to an upper-class school. But yeah, the wealth amongst the wealthy goes up exponentially so Maja is kinda low class to Sebastian and Samir is non existent to him (think the scene from Labbe’s family dinner). So for an average family like Samir, Maja is very high class.
It was Samir I was talking about.
I totally agree with you! I watched the series in two days in a row, but I was really hesitant whether I could finish it. But my curiosity got the better of me and so I finished it. I wanted to know what had happened and how it would end. And the fact that I was hesitant to finish it was because the series is so dark and depressing, but it had nothing to do with the storyline or the acting. The storyline and the acting were brilliant! Amazing! But for the coming days, I need to watch a comedy or something.
I agree... You need a comedy series now.
@@TheRubyTuesday Yes if you can recommend me one, just let me know ;-)
@@dlefering Brooklyn nine nine, Santa Clarita diet, community.
@@TheRubyTuesday Thnx!
I stopped watching when she shot the deer 😢😢
I don't think a season 2 is necessary...the lessons were very clear...😢
Hanna and Felix are the big stars from Sweden 💗💗💗. (Maja/Sebastian)
I just finished watching it and im just really wondering what would happen to her afterwards so I'm begging Netflix for a second season
It's possible because of how popular it was but I highly doubt it!
Here in Africa parents cant tollerate such behaviour
Pretty good show I finished in one sitting in a Friday night
Season 2?
Very accurate review, you never let me down.
I watched all 6 episodes in one go. And I really liked it! And to a Swede, such as my myself, it was great to see so many big Swedish actors amongst the adults. Actors that have been in the business a long time, both in film and other tv-series. =D
Julia Shepherd any recommendations for people unfamiliar with swedish film/TV?
Pao Roliaz I don’t remember which movies/tv-shows they were in, because it is so many, but you can always google. So I’m just gonna say who they play in Quicksand. 😄
Any way, hear they are. Shanti Roney (the techer), Sven Wolter ( Maja’s grandfather), Helena af Sandeberg (Amanda’s mom), Samuel Fröler (that friend’s dad. The friend that witnessed over camera), Reuben Sallmander (Sebastian’s dad), Maria Sundbom (the accuser lawyer) and Louise Edlind Friberg (Sebastian’s sort of nanny). 😊
Agreed! good, tough, my wife and I were rivetted.
Binge watched it but i didn’t like their acting in the beginning, except for felix. Imo it wasn’t that great and i disliked the storyline bc it was kinda boring.
Sorry you didn't enjoy it. I think most have loved it. But that's the nature of entertainment... Each to there own.
I’m the trial the explosives were not addressed
Great review...am on the 5th episode now....
The ending is interesting. Let me know what you thought. Glad you are enjoying it.
@@TheRubyTuesday finished with the last episode... Very realistically made court room climax...as you said, the highlight of this is the actors.... Special credit to the public prosecutor and the defence lawyer ... And of course...the soundtrack / background music was top class...maintained the heaviness throughout 👍👌
@@KHK360 yup, very well put together. Glad you enjoyed it.
Did Sebastian's dad killed his mom?
I'll have to check this one out. You are so fast man! Do you get early releases from Netflix or are the release dates just always earlier in the UK?
I sometimes get screeners from Netflix, which is cool. Thanks for checking out my review.
I was so angry at the end. She actually killed Amanda on purpose? Wtf
I thought she missed and hit Amanda?
It didn’t look like that to me. Also if you watch the scene again you’ll notice that she readjusts her aim after hitting Amanda to make sure she hits him next. We’re also told that she is a very good precise shooter throughout the show
She panicked and accidentally shot amanda
I actually thought the exact same thing (thought I was the only one lol). It looked like she shot Amanda on purpose an after this she shot Sebastian... I was kinda shooked but it is a great plot twist...
It didn’t seem to me that she shot amanda on purpose. She panicked things were Happening fast
I love störst av allt ❤
This show was amazing but I was confused by the ending .. when she shot her friend and then Sebastian was it on purpose or accident? She got her hunting license so I was mad confused. Someone pls explain:)
She missed at first and hit her friend.
!!! SPOILER!!!
Maja was in shock because she wasn't aware of Sebastian's plan. He was also aiming the gun directly at her head, so she was probably stressed and also in shock, that's why she accidentally shot Amanda.
Worst series ive watched in a long time, switched off after 2, searched the ending and predicted everything except sebastion shooting his dad...
Why did they go with the awful English dub? It’s hard not to laugh when you really shouldn’t be.
Yeah, not great. But we read the subs... That's the way to go.
Not an option on Netflix. Seems to be a forced dub.
@@dallascowboyshighlights9632 you can change the language on Netflix. At least it works for me
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hi, can someone just explain me real quick what happened in like episodes 1-4?
It's a drama, you get to see how the toxic relationship develops.
Watch the show 😂 I watched it in one sitting, one morning. So it isn’t super time consuming.