if you scored it 113-113 then it's a tie, you can't give imaginary points. Also the 2nd knockdown was bogus, vergil clearly falls after he throws his left.
It never made sense to me when people say a knockdown is automatically a 10-8 round. I always believe a fighter can still win a round with getting knocked down.I had Bohachuk winning 4 rounds. But I also knew this was a 50-50 fight. What a tough fight for Vergil to have for his true first 154 fight . Great great fight
Agree. Ortiz got right back up and rallied hard. And also agree with Steve Kim, some knockdowns are not automatically, 10-8 but can be 10-9 as virgil did on both knockdowns. Speaking of winky Wright, serhii on the night of the fight against Ortiz mimicked winky's high guard very well.
@@RyanOHara-rs9zj yeah, I think that's how Steve Kim scored it as well. Overall, the fight was very competitive, with many rounds that were hard to favor one over the other. It could have easily been a draw.
I always appreciate Mario's honesty and keeping his unbias honest opinion. Regardless of the outcome Ortiz stock dropped and can't see him going undisputed
@ 6:15 "Bohachuk's face looked clean"?!? His head looked a cherry tree. Other than the knockdown rounds, I did not see Bohachuk winning any other rounds. I had it 116-110 Vergil
It was a really good close fight ! I would have liked a draw but Ortiz was landing som great shots and had him hurt on the tenth and Eleventh round ! It was close but could’ve gone either way and I would like to see a rematch
i haven't re-watched the fight but my 1st impression was Bohachuk didn't win 4 rounds and lost the rounds he was given the knockdowns in.... certainly need a re-match!!!
I like Bud and Vergil! There's a lot of Bud in Vergil, in a sense that Vergil has that same killer instinct. But! Vergil needs one more fight. Bud is too much right now
This is the Sheik effect: the year of the foilers and spoilers. Madrimov and Bohachuk definitely had the underdog foiling. No more Canelo fight for Bud. Maybe no Crawford fight for Ortiz. AND we the fans are winning for once…yayr!!!
Good looking out Steve and Mario for making my last hour of work entertaining 👌...which Honduran beer should I crack open, Salva Vida or Port Royal Export? Salute!
Both, Bud and Virgil showed that climbing to 154 is different, they're both less effective. It makes me think that if Charlo comes back and trains to win, he just might beat both Bud & Virgil. Before Bud fights Virgil next year (2025), why not get Serhii in the ring with Bud, then Virgil with Madrimov?
@@skylershout yes thank you, Idk why everybody doesn't want to see both rematches. Both were very close why not run it back to really prove you're that guy?
Neither one of them virgil or Boha were seriously hurt guys. Future effects of a grueling fight? Ah yeah ev fight takes a piece but nothing serious here imo
This had everything: brutality, comedy, robbery, knockdowns and Harvey Dock. But the right man did not win. Ortiz is overrated with big holes in his record. Barring Mean Machine, he's cruised through from 135 to 147 without fighting any elites. Right before the 1st knockdown he was jabbin, movin back jabbin, movin back thinking he's the new Tommy Hearns. Bohachuck threw the easy right and started laughing his ass off when Ortiz buckled so easy. He was so embarrassed he didn't even complain at first. Harvey Dock was confused too but then remembered why he was there. Ortiz has to rematch or his team and management loses credibility.
The fight was too close to call. No way should the title have changed hands. It should have been a draw. And I like Ortiz. Strangely enough, Turk said he wanted Crawford Ortiz next before the Ortiz fight. Guess he got what he wanted.. he won’t make boxing less corrupt, but he will bring some better fights to the people
Turki just want big names boxing, lots of these match up makes zero sense , two weight class up weight classes who needs them , big name = fight for me you puppet And calling Canelo a coward a spoiled nerd that got everything handed to him calling Canelo a coward Yeah ok 🎉
People that watch these fights just listen to the announcers and believe them. Watch it with the sound off and make your own decision. Ortiz won in my opinion maybe a tie great fight. You’re winning a round and u get knocked down ?? Ok It was a 10-9 for Virgil but now he is flash knocked down. It’s then 10-9 the other guy. It’s not automatically 10-8 .. now if Ortiz was loosing the round and or it was a tie round and he is knocked down then yes it’s a 10-8 round. Learn to watch these fights and u will enjoy them more …
Marquez won more rounds that fight but getting dropped 3xs is why it was a draw, matter of fact one judge accidently scored rnd 1 10-7 instead of 10-6 so had he scored correct Paq wouldn't won
Ortiz did dominate the rest of round 8…. The announcers didnt exaggerate Bchuck being hurt that time. Watching it live, i thought Bahuchuck won, but didnt score it. I need to rewatch and score it.
Leo was fighting dirty ass shttt , and ref was ass , Venado was super frustrated for that , if u knew spanish u could hear how mad his corner was because that was getting him so out of his mind , he never overcame that !
If it wasn't for Ortiz making it an expectacular fight, it would've been just like Crawfords last fight, boring. He did nothing exciting no power punches and nothing to make fight fans jump. VIRGIL WON CLEARLY REGARDLESSS OF BEING DROPPED TWICE WHICH LOOKED MORE LIKE SLIPS. EITHER WAY, VIRGIL MADE THE FIGHT WHAT IT WAS, AND HE WON MOST ROUNDS OR AT LEAST 8.
@@lilpenny1982- my man… when you have 23 out of 24 wins by KO, you are a serious puncher. Just because casual fans didn’t know who bohachuck was before this fight doesn’t mean he wasn’t a threat. Most fighters have been dropped at one point or another in their careers, even the very good ones. Blessings 🙏🏽
I didnt give ortiz any of the last 4 rounds theres a argument for the the 11th...bohachuk was in control... i had the same feeling for ggg canelo 1....
A deeper cast than " Heat "
😂 😂
Mr. Kim always got those witty lines !
that one got me too lol
Another Solid show, it's appreciated fellas....
Cheers from Canada! Looking forward to this episode
Is Mario an alcoholic? Everytime i see him he's drinking.
He also is a Trumptard
Mind your business let him be
@@marcosa6946he’s a public figure, it’s all of our business. Get over it
Lmao that’s funny af 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I score every fight I watch and had it 113-113 and thought with the knockdowns the champion deserved the win
I had it 114-112 Vergil
if you scored it 113-113 then it's a tie, you can't give imaginary points. Also the 2nd knockdown was bogus, vergil clearly falls after he throws his left.
@@charleyu5506ad what about the first one not giving the count isn't that giving advantage to bohachuk
Big fan of Vergil but that decision was atrocious. He got knocked down twice and didn't do enough to take Serhii's belt.
I am a big fan of Bohachuk, but Vergil overpowered and dominated the entire fight
@DeTny-vj9nm he never dominated but you could say he won the rounds were very hard fought rounds
@@DeTny-vj9nm Yeah, like when he knocked him down ... oh wait.
@@jamesburrell677 lol
Yeah so hard Vergil couldn't get back up.
@@DeTny-vj9nm Oh, he got back up so they don't count, derpity derp.
Most of ortiz’s punches were bouncing off the gloves. Crawford KO’s him
Jaja jaja your funny jaja
You share the same skin complexion as Crawford so we know where you’re coming from
@@DevonHanei im wearing camo rn
Canelo vs Berlanga is going to be another Canelo vs Charlo
No way!!! Berlanga goes out cold
@@schultzywillpa26 I agree what i meant is that Canelo will beat the out of berlanga
Nah berlanga will swing more
More like Canelo vs John Ryder. Just another Cherry-pick by the cherry- Captain.
Canelo/Khan part 2
Fury vs Usyk was a waaaay better fight. Should be FOTY for sure.
You're the only one. Good fight but not better than Ortiz/Bohachuk.
CONWELL IS A OLD STYLE FIGHTER,, THAT DOUBLE HOOK , AND HIS STRENGTH AND POWER MAKES HIM WELL ROUNDED
It never made sense to me when people say a knockdown is automatically a 10-8 round. I always believe a fighter can still win a round with getting knocked down.I had Bohachuk winning 4 rounds. But I also knew this was a 50-50 fight. What a tough fight for Vergil to have for his true first 154 fight . Great great fight
Wow respect to Mario I didn't' think he would call it down the line...Have to say he's honest
Maybe Ortiz looked so good after the”KOs” because they weren’t really KOs (specially the second one)?
You mean KD’s… he wasn’t knocked out. And no, they were legitimate knockdowns, but Ortiz recovered.
Agree. Ortiz got right back up and rallied hard. And also agree with Steve Kim, some knockdowns are not automatically, 10-8 but can be 10-9 as virgil did on both knockdowns. Speaking of winky Wright, serhii on the night of the fight against Ortiz mimicked winky's high guard very well.
@@OmarHernandez-nq2jo 10-9 for the first knockdown is possible, but I felt 10-8 was warranted for the second.
@@RyanOHara-rs9zj yeah, I think that's how Steve Kim scored it as well. Overall, the fight was very competitive, with many rounds that were hard to favor one over the other. It could have easily been a draw.
Aren’t these guys friend with bohochuck manager
I always appreciate Mario's honesty and keeping his unbias honest opinion. Regardless of the outcome Ortiz stock dropped and can't see him going undisputed
@ 6:15 "Bohachuk's face looked clean"?!? His head looked a cherry tree. Other than the knockdown rounds, I did not see Bohachuk winning any other rounds. I had it 116-110 Vergil
You need to watch more boxing . It was one round either way AT MOST .
@@vasu1130 I disagree
You are nuts…
Wrong. Everybody’s face bruises and bleeds differently
That doesn't make sense, Vergil s face was like that because Bohachuk landed good solid punches and he won the fight.
great podcast!
I’m here for the… “TINO!” 😎
What fight was Mario watching. Verjil did the walking down of his opponent most of the fight. He was the one punishing the body
What fight was Mario watching? Virgil had the Jan going and Biyschuck did do good but his feet were unstable a few times after Virgil hurt him.
Great show, tequila AND Milli Vanilli!
What about Naoya Inoue and his recovery after being knocked down by Nery?
Great show as always fellas 🫡🥊
Vergil kos Crawford .. he ain’t scared to press and Crawford ain’t knocking him out.. good match up to see if he should still fight canelo
Crawford by TKO Ortiz is a counter puncher’s dream
@@shinnokcentaur7551 bud couldn’t ko in his last fight.. and Vergil couldn’t get ko in his last fight ..
Pretty Boy Kim said today he's watching college football over Bivol-Beterbiev.
It was a really good close fight ! I would have liked a draw but Ortiz was landing som great shots and had him hurt on the tenth and Eleventh round ! It was close but could’ve gone either way and I would like to see a rematch
Another great episode. Mario is the man! Kim come on man, fix your hair.
i haven't re-watched the fight but my 1st impression was Bohachuk didn't win 4 rounds and lost the rounds he was given the knockdowns in.... certainly need a re-match!!!
Mario Lopez Speaks Straight Facts
I like Bud and Vergil! There's a lot of Bud in Vergil, in a sense that Vergil has that same killer instinct. But! Vergil needs one more fight. Bud is too much right now
Fury-usyk still foy in my opinion
I’d like to ask Mario what 6 round Vergil lost. I had him win 9 rounds
Then how much is a knock down worth then?
This is the Sheik effect: the year of the foilers and spoilers. Madrimov and Bohachuk definitely had the underdog foiling. No more Canelo fight for Bud. Maybe no Crawford fight for Ortiz. AND we the fans are winning for once…yayr!!!
Good looking out Steve and Mario for making my last hour of work entertaining 👌...which Honduran beer should I crack open, Salva Vida or Port Royal Export? Salute!
Both, cheers 🍻
Vergil won at least 8 rounds clearly. One of the rounds where he was knocked down he should of gotten a 10-9. Great fight.
Exactly how I saw it. Have watched 7 times now😂😂
Both, Bud and Virgil showed that climbing to 154 is different, they're both less effective. It makes me think that if Charlo comes back and trains to win, he just might beat both Bud & Virgil. Before Bud fights Virgil next year (2025), why not get Serhii in the ring with Bud, then Virgil with Madrimov?
I would like to see both fighters run it back on the same card. Bud vs Israil II and Ortiz vs serhii II. Both close fights
@@skylershout yes thank you, Idk why everybody doesn't want to see both rematches. Both were very close why not run it back to really prove you're that guy?
Vergil won that fight
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Ortiz lost one round. He was landing the cleaner more effective punches and I feel like he won both of those kd rounds 10-9
He definitely lost more than one round no way
Neither one of them virgil or Boha were seriously hurt guys. Future effects of a grueling fight? Ah yeah ev fight takes a piece but nothing serious here imo
Ortiz went straight to the hospital…. That say a lot
@BrandonWaller502 oh yeah why not. It's been a war. Most should go. Especially when it's being paid for. Not always
I don't watch WWE but Mario Lopez Voice reminds me of Seth Freaking Rollins....
This had everything: brutality, comedy, robbery, knockdowns and Harvey Dock. But the right man did not win. Ortiz is overrated with big holes in his record. Barring Mean Machine, he's cruised through from 135 to 147 without fighting any elites. Right before the 1st knockdown he was jabbin, movin back jabbin, movin back thinking he's the new Tommy Hearns. Bohachuck threw the easy right and started laughing his ass off when Ortiz buckled so easy. He was so embarrassed he didn't even complain at first. Harvey Dock was confused too but then remembered why he was there. Ortiz has to rematch or his team and management loses credibility.
The fight was too close to call. No way should the title have changed hands. It should have been a draw. And I like Ortiz. Strangely enough, Turk said he wanted Crawford Ortiz next before the Ortiz fight. Guess he got what he wanted.. he won’t make boxing less corrupt, but he will bring some better fights to the people
MARIO IS A TEO FAN,,, BUT HE HAS BEEN FARE ABOUT TEO,, LIKE ME,, I THINK TEO IS A DELUSIONAL YOUNG FIGHTER WHO IS GOING BACKWARDS
I like Steve's opinions. Too bad he blocked me on Twitter
Mario drinks more than me! Damn!
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That fight was a draw!!
Very evenly fight that was hard to score.
Turki just want big names boxing, lots of these match up makes zero sense , two weight class up weight classes who needs them , big name = fight for me you puppet
And calling Canelo a coward a spoiled nerd that got everything handed to him calling Canelo a coward
Yeah ok 🎉
Canelo vs Berlanga in Sept 2024 will tank on the PPV market.
I think it does around 300,000 it's just excuse for us Mexicans to have a party
@@claudiomonreal4822 I think it does 200k to 250k PPV buys in North America
People that watch these fights just listen to the announcers and believe them. Watch it with the sound off and make your own decision. Ortiz won in my opinion maybe a tie great fight. You’re winning a round and u get knocked down ?? Ok It was a 10-9 for Virgil but now he is flash knocked down. It’s then 10-9 the other guy. It’s not automatically 10-8 .. now if Ortiz was loosing the round and or it was a tie round and he is knocked down then yes it’s a 10-8 round. Learn to watch these fights and u will enjoy them more …
NO NO INOUE COOKS LEO
Different weight class playboy. Inoue fights at 122 and Leo at 126. You learn something new today
Cool
Anyone remember Pac & Marquez 1? Manny dropped Juan Manuel 3 times in the first round. DRAW
Yup. To this day I think Márquez won that fight.
Marquez won more rounds that fight but getting dropped 3xs is why it was a draw, matter of fact one judge accidently scored rnd 1 10-7 instead of 10-6 so had he scored correct Paq wouldn't won
@@RyshelHolguin-jl1dl We might be related!!! I think we're the only ones who see that
Ortiz did dominate the rest of round 8…. The announcers didnt exaggerate Bchuck being hurt that time.
Watching it live, i thought Bahuchuck won, but didnt score it. I need to rewatch and score it.
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agree with mario lopez ... at worst, it shoulda been a draw
Leo was fighting dirty ass shttt , and ref was ass , Venado was super frustrated for that , if u knew spanish u could hear how mad his corner was because that was getting him so out of his mind , he never overcame that !
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Mario keeps straddling the fence on Virgil, but deep down he knows he lost.
#homer
If it wasn't for Ortiz making it an expectacular fight, it would've been just like Crawfords last fight, boring. He did nothing exciting no power punches and nothing to make fight fans jump. VIRGIL WON CLEARLY REGARDLESSS OF BEING DROPPED TWICE WHICH LOOKED MORE LIKE SLIPS. EITHER WAY, VIRGIL MADE THE FIGHT WHAT IT WAS, AND HE WON MOST ROUNDS OR AT LEAST 8.
Heavy drinking huh😢
I bet Lopez voted for Biden
116-112 bohachuk. Another yt fighter robbed… just like our nations.
😂😂😂😂😂😂JAJAJAJA
Ortiz' flush knockdowns looked worrying to me. Bud will seriously hurt Verge if they fought at 154.
I think Verge should consider retiring before anything happens to him in the ring.
@@lilpenny1982bahuchuck is a havey punchers bro… he made it thru
@@edi.duzit23 Yeah. Imagine if Ortiz fights a serious puncher at 154.
@@lilpenny1982- my man… when you have 23 out of 24 wins by KO, you are a serious puncher. Just because casual fans didn’t know who bohachuck was before this fight doesn’t mean he wasn’t a threat. Most fighters have been dropped at one point or another in their careers, even the very good ones. Blessings 🙏🏽
Agreed 💯 percent.
I didnt give ortiz any of the last 4 rounds theres a argument for the the 11th...bohachuk was in control... i had the same feeling for ggg canelo 1....
Lol vergil outlanded 28 to like 14 punches the 11 round how he won the round 😂😂
@@48boogie...85 now we know where Adalaide Byrd has been
You must be on crack - ring your family.
@silvestreperez4612 🤣🤣🤣 that's kinda funny... 🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🤣🤣🤣
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