I’m a renter and I want these measures. Don’t know why some comments here are advocating to “suck it up.” We are in the so called Silicon Valley, the heart of tech. And yet we’re using antiquated train lines and relying on a loud horn when there should absolutely be better options. Also, don’t forget, most people who live in the peninsula of the Bay Area live nearby to the train, partly because we value having access to public transit. Europe seems to do this really well, and don’t require all these same antiquated measures, yet move far more people and more trains by comparison. We should absolutely be considering these kinds of options. I may not even be here long term, but I want this for the area regardless.
Train horns at crossings with lights are unnecessary. We don’t make truckers honk whenever they cross another street. Trains also have crossing guards, so the horn is completely overkill. Horns are for crossings with no warning equipment.
False. Living in the Bay and Railfanning often, you should see the amount of false crossings that happen. People get impatient and go around and nearly get hit all the time. Also, people walk along the tracks, and you CANNOT hear them until they have passed.
Two solutions, close the street to through traffic (foot and cars) which would be the cheapest, or grade separation which is the most expensive solution and based on the proximity of homes in the area may be problematic. They could do an intermediate solution which is close the street to car throughput but have some foot path tunnel or something to allow people to walk between.
Do these people understand setting up quiet zone(s) will also cost the city because the insurance/liability goes way up. That is usually compensated out of tax funds.
@@Tricia1869 I'm sure they understand, and as long as residents of THAT city are the ones paying for it I don't see any problem with it. That railroad was there long before any of them started living there, it's on the people who originally built the houses so close to the tracks, or decided to live there in the first place. I remember seeing a new story some years ago that residents of an apartment complex, I think in San Mateo, were upset with the train sounds for a similar reason ... the apartment complex that was built as close to the tracks as legally allowed and was like less than 5 years old...
Bad idea City Council I understand the frustration but when you establish quiet zones you are removing the safety aspect on what the horn is for and the reason horns have gotten louder because people 9 times out of 10 have air pods, headphones on their ears and they're not paying attention and are always in a rush.
This doesn't make any fucking sense. Bay area already has very limited land for home and most of them becomes absolutely un-livable because of the horn.
I'll say this. It's got to be damn hard to get voters to approve rail expansion initiatives when the end result is that you have blaring horns in your backyard twice an hour until almost 2 a.m.! I think, especially for passenger rail corridors, that we have to do some investigation into whether the signal Crossing equipment is sufficient. Otherwise we will never conquer the California ask conundrum of traffic congestion especially in residential corridors! I truly believe if there's sufficient warning equipment at the Crossing, then beyond that anyone who gets hit at the Crossing probably deserves to be hit! We have to stop punishing the neighborhoods with those loud ass horns!
that's great news! i hate caltrain noise because it woke up my baby very easily. i shouldn't move to a house near caltrain station but i did not know that train in the US is that old and noisy. from where i came from, almost all trains are electrified and rails are not blocking the roads whatsoever.
Well they somehow not have to honk at crossings in Europe and somehow it works there too. I feel like to have constant warning noises completely destroy to get someones attention when something actually is happening.
@@AlexanderOnFirein the US it’s mandatory unless told not to honk the horn at all crossings, Europe doesn’t have that regulation because the EU and US relation between the train is drastically different when it was first made
Message to these residents: SUCK IT! DEAL WITH IT! Trains need to honk their horns a few times when heading toward a RXR Crossing to let all drivers know that there is a train heading your way
What about a Pedestrian+Bike underpass instead of the railroad crossing, so you reduce the car traffic and make it more safer for children to get from and to school and still have a connected neighborhood.
And then one of the locals will be killed and they'll sue the train company instead of the NIMBYs who seemed to have forgotten that they happened to buy a house on a train line so they can get to work easily.
I've seen videos of some pretty lackadaisical railroad crossings in other jurisdictions across the globe. And it seems like only the dumbest / most intent people get hit by those trains. So what's not stopping us from a harkening back to the survival of the fittest times?
The railroad has been there for over 100 years. Grow up. Those towns were built by the railroad. Physically close the crossing and cue complaints about detouring traffic. Note the soon to begin electrified operation.
The San Francisco and San Jose Railroad (SF&SJ) was a railroad which linked the communities of San Francisco and San Jose, California, running the length of the San Francisco Peninsula. The company incorporated in 1860 and was one of the first railroads to employ Chinese laborers in its construction. It opened the first portion of its route in *1863* , completing the entire 49.5-mile (80 km) route in 1864. The company was consolidated with the Southern Pacific Railroad in 1870. Today, Caltrain and the Union Pacific Railroad continue to operate trains over part of the company's original route.
I live like 0.8 miles away from Union Pacific tracks and close to a train switcher, I love hearing the K5LA horns from the switcher and K5HL horns from Union Pacific, literally it’s the best sound I hear everyday and every night does not bother me at all, and it should not bother people living there either, be grateful they’re p2 horns and not K5HL horns smh
Imagine moving somewhere near a train track and traffic then damanding they stop the trains and traffic. These people are looney. Maybe just move dummy.
Im in the East Bay and it's soothing to hear the train and Bart noises early in the morning. It's like my rooster call before my coffee😊
Ofc, BART is always loud
@@northerncalirails2008 and
@@ryy4n_ which idc is Bart is loud, it's fast
I’m a renter and I want these measures. Don’t know why some comments here are advocating to “suck it up.” We are in the so called Silicon Valley, the heart of tech. And yet we’re using antiquated train lines and relying on a loud horn when there should absolutely be better options.
Also, don’t forget, most people who live in the peninsula of the Bay Area live nearby to the train, partly because we value having access to public transit. Europe seems to do this really well, and don’t require all these same antiquated measures, yet move far more people and more trains by comparison.
We should absolutely be considering these kinds of options. I may not even be here long term, but I want this for the area regardless.
i feel you. it's so surreal to see silicon valley has such old machines. it would say it's a shame of the cities here.
well trains in europe usually have grade separated crossings and their drivers arent dumb so
Then tell your city leaders to make a quiet zone
Grade separation would be safest, but I guarantee shes opposed to that.
Train horns at crossings with lights are unnecessary. We don’t make truckers honk whenever they cross another street.
Trains also have crossing guards, so the horn is completely overkill. Horns are for crossings with no warning equipment.
False. Living in the Bay and Railfanning often, you should see the amount of false crossings that happen. People get impatient and go around and nearly get hit all the time. Also, people walk along the tracks, and you CANNOT hear them until they have passed.
Two solutions, close the street to through traffic (foot and cars) which would be the cheapest, or grade separation which is the most expensive solution and based on the proximity of homes in the area may be problematic. They could do an intermediate solution which is close the street to car throughput but have some foot path tunnel or something to allow people to walk between.
Do these people understand setting up quiet zone(s) will also cost the city because the insurance/liability goes way up. That is usually compensated out of tax funds.
@@Tricia1869 I'm sure they understand, and as long as residents of THAT city are the ones paying for it I don't see any problem with it. That railroad was there long before any of them started living there, it's on the people who originally built the houses so close to the tracks, or decided to live there in the first place. I remember seeing a new story some years ago that residents of an apartment complex, I think in San Mateo, were upset with the train sounds for a similar reason ... the apartment complex that was built as close to the tracks as legally allowed and was like less than 5 years old...
Bad idea City Council I understand the frustration but when you establish quiet zones you are removing the safety aspect on what the horn is for and the reason horns have gotten louder because people 9 times out of 10 have air pods, headphones on their ears and they're not paying attention and are always in a rush.
This doesn't make any fucking sense. Bay area already has very limited land for home and most of them becomes absolutely un-livable because of the horn.
You referring to my comment or the UA-cam video sir?
I'll say this. It's got to be damn hard to get voters to approve rail expansion initiatives when the end result is that you have blaring horns in your backyard twice an hour until almost 2 a.m.! I think, especially for passenger rail corridors, that we have to do some investigation into whether the signal Crossing equipment is sufficient. Otherwise we will never conquer the California ask conundrum of traffic congestion especially in residential corridors! I truly believe if there's sufficient warning equipment at the Crossing, then beyond that anyone who gets hit at the Crossing probably deserves to be hit! We have to stop punishing the neighborhoods with those loud ass horns!
that's great news! i hate caltrain noise because it woke up my baby very easily. i shouldn't move to a house near caltrain station but i did not know that train in the US is that old and noisy. from where i came from, almost all trains are electrified and rails are not blocking the roads whatsoever.
The reason trains here have to blow the horns is because the drivers here are idiots. Get rid of the streets and there will be no need for horns
Let the railroad enthusiasts have fun and suck it up and move out
they’re required to blow the horn to warn a train is coming, if they remove the horns it can cause a distracted person to get hit by a train.
Caltrain is now electric too, seems like you need to do more research
If you don't want to hear trains, maybe don't live near train tracks...
The tracks were probably built around the homes....
@@whatsgoingon07 The tracks have been there since the 1860s
@mrsleep0000 You tell'em
@@GEREIKAT I think you’re talking about the trans continental railroad
@@whatsgoingon07 No I am not. Trains have been running on those same tracks between SF and SJ since Abraham Lincoln was President. Educate yourself.
Trains make noise??? Shocking.
Well they somehow not have to honk at crossings in Europe and somehow it works there too. I feel like to have constant warning noises completely destroy to get someones attention when something actually is happening.
@@AlexanderOnFirein the US it’s mandatory unless told not to honk the horn at all crossings, Europe doesn’t have that regulation because the EU and US relation between the train is drastically different when it was first made
Id live with the horns
Yeah and since I am also a railfan I like filming trains I like the horns
The trains were they before sanchez! She should to complaining and move somewhere else!
isnt federal law to honk at controlled gates?
@@desertPersonis that the same as gun free zones? Cuz those don't seem to work
@@middleguy1776no, it ain't the same, and the comparison doesn't even make any sense!
And why the hell would we need to honk at controlled gates if they're properly controlled and signalized? Do you honk driving through a green light?
@@OwlGreene how isn't it?
NIMBY alert over here!!!
Message to these residents: SUCK IT! DEAL WITH IT! Trains need to honk their horns a few times when heading toward a RXR Crossing to let all drivers know that there is a train heading your way
Shut up foamer
"The Caltrainator" LMAO
@@getcrack4me I'll be back
when the electrified Caltrains go into service, they’re going to complain about the horn and bells 😂
@@sixfifty_sebbexactly, I bet they're gonna hate the EMUs more than the diesels
You live near a train track....get used to it!
Exactly
What about a Pedestrian+Bike underpass instead of the railroad crossing, so you reduce the car traffic and make it more safer for children to get from and to school and still have a connected neighborhood.
And then one of the locals will be killed and they'll sue the train company instead of the NIMBYs who seemed to have forgotten that they happened to buy a house on a train line so they can get to work easily.
i would live there on purpose to hear the train horns
You bet 😉
Move next to train tracks then complain about it
I've seen videos of some pretty lackadaisical railroad crossings in other jurisdictions across the globe. And it seems like only the dumbest / most intent people get hit by those trains. So what's not stopping us from a harkening back to the survival of the fittest times?
Cinders and ashes! Learn to live with it since it's for SAFETY, NOT for playing games.
Facts
Plain out entitlement don’t live near the train tracks if you don’t want to hear the trains 🤷♂️
Hmmm, bad idea, just leave it as is ...that's best idea!
The railroad has been there for over 100 years. Grow up. Those towns were built by the railroad. Physically close the crossing and cue complaints about detouring traffic.
Note the soon to begin electrified operation.
The San Francisco and San Jose Railroad (SF&SJ) was a railroad which linked the communities of San Francisco and San Jose, California, running the length of the San Francisco Peninsula. The company incorporated in 1860 and was one of the first railroads to employ Chinese laborers in its construction. It opened the first portion of its route in *1863* , completing the entire 49.5-mile (80 km) route in 1864. The company was consolidated with the Southern Pacific Railroad in 1870. Today, Caltrain and the Union Pacific Railroad continue to operate trains over part of the company's original route.
Someone needs to grow up all right, and that’s YOU
@@d.nakamura9579 says the one video one subscriber space holder.
the former SP mainline has been there way before anyone else. you dont like the train horns? THEN MOVE!
I live like 0.8 miles away from Union Pacific tracks and close to a train switcher, I love hearing the K5LA horns from the switcher and K5HL horns from Union Pacific, literally it’s the best sound I hear everyday and every night does not bother me at all, and it should not bother people living there either, be grateful they’re p2 horns and not K5HL horns smh
Imagine moving somewhere near a train track and traffic then damanding they stop the trains and traffic. These people are looney. Maybe just move dummy.
It only takes ONE fatality for them to re-evacuate .
Never going to happen