Hear, hear! I am not religious and haven't been a member of a church since I was a kid, but I truly feel for Pastor Coates and I firmly believe churches should be allowed to open. I live in a tiny town in BC and will start attending our local church via Zoom so I can ask what I can do to help them open.
They still can do that. I in my opinion Pastor John is to old and a very well known brother around the world. America‘s leadership has to become more rude before they put hands on such a honored Pastor like J. MacArthur is. May be in some years the boundaries would be removed to do such an evil 😈 deed. James Coates is a giftet preacher! The government hates such a clear statement as he has had spoken out in public according to the scripture. He became to dangerous. Here some hints to the church history. John Wycliffe the old scholar was spared from the prison, meanwhile the Lollards had been tortured and killed. My English is not the best. I speak German .
From the US here, and you guys are right. Until we the people speak up, it will never end. (And may God use Pastor Coates in jail to be a light in the darkness.)
So interesting! Yes, we all definitely have to stand up for our democratic right! More importatnly, we MUST obey God rather than man! Jesus is the highest authority!!!!!
Thank you for posting your conversation. I’m in New Zealand. I listened to Ps James’ message re the role of government, and very clear presentation of the gospel.
I am praying for Pastor Coates and for the return of justice and truth in my province of Alberta. It is time for us to speak up and stop hiding in fear in our homes. Let us return to genuinely loving one another as Jesus commanded, which means meeting with others.
Pastor James has caused the church to engage in a necessary conversation that needs to take place in our Nation right now. As an Albertan, an ordained minister and someone who has had and recovered from covid, I felt the need to make a video on my channel regarding this issue. Pastor James' situation is a complicated one, but regardless of how we FEEL we must have a necessary conversation about the Rights and Freedoms that our government has profoundly violated!
Praying for his soon release and Canadian believers to be courageous! It reminds me of John Bunyan who was arrested in England for preaching the gospel hundreds of years ago. While he was in prison he wrote Pilgrims Progress.
THANK YOU SO much for posting this. It was so affirming, encouraging, & inspiring. I also LOVED the humility & unpretentiousness of it from start to finish. I have had it on my heart to pitch the mask & this affirmed that for me. Today was the 1st day I went into Target without the face diaper & it was SO liberating. Praise God for leaders/pastors like you & Pastor Coates who actually lead & shepherd your flock. I will keep this in prayer & be praying for a Tsunami like ripple effect of the example that has been given us. Grace, Blessings, & Peace to all!!! MARANATHA! 🙌
Our prayers are with Biblical pastors and churches in Canada. Originally from England, I now pastor in Wyoming, USA. I have been saying this was coming for years, but few want to believe. Persecution is going to continue to increase. May believers stand firm for the truth of the Scripture and obey God rather than man.
My wife and I are both Christ followers (Reformed Baptist) and our hearts are breaking for Pastor Coates, his wife, & his church. I thought in Canada you basically have to be Paul Bernardo to be imprisoned. We have been praying mightily for them. Soli Deo Gloria from Buffalo! Luke 12:11-12 John 15:18
@@dwaynesbgb What happened to being 'innocent unless proven guilty?' This whole situation is pathetic and super harsh! *Prayer Session for everyone* Stay strong! JESUS wants you for a SONbeam! *holy fala-hahaHaha*~Love to you & your family via: the Gospel (Good News) always, Dr. Lady S.
I can't think of many people that I would rather be in jail with than my dear friend James. The church that I pastor is and has been open for the last 9 months.
Thank you for bringing attention to this! I am a pastor in southern Alberta and we are have remained open and vocal. We have sent Kenney and Hinshaw a pointed letter and an open sermon denouncing their tyranny. God bless you both.
@@Kurauone__ Whatism isn't reality. They have clearly and publicly said that they have had no deaths due to Covid. Matter of fact the funeral that WAS held was due to the strict regulations on the medical staff to not contract Covid and that person died .I see you as just trying to stir up people.
@@george7776 absolutely we are there. No way even if a person does not believe in the word / Him to not see we are last generation of man , if they truly are thinkers / ponders.... After 5 years of many rabbit holes, I came to conclusion bible is infact correct. 🙏
What we are seeing is the persecution of believers now on our soil brothers and sisters, hang on to your faith in Christ, stay in the word daily, keep your prayer life active and keep your eyes on Jesus and remember the bible say “you will be hated for my name sake”.......✝️✝️✝️
@@pamelah6431 He was given a choice and he chose prison.Canada officials asked him to reduce the attendance down to 15% per meeting.A way around there demands and still preach to all attendees was to do more meetings/sermons per week but instead he chose prison.
@@pamelah6431 The officials gave him a choice of how to continue preaching and he chose to to go to prison. That's not persecution against the church if the government gives you a way to do it.He refused a compromise. We should consider that most pastors would rather preach to 15% groups all week then choose to go to prison and be away from their wives and kids.
Update as of today....Pastor James Coates whom was arrested and jailed...has been denied bail by Canada and will be behind bars until May...keep him, his family and the brethren in prayer
great to hear from you just spent last hour listening to Pastor Micheal Thiessen and Randy Hillier .Have listened to pastors as far away as Texas and New Mexico talking on this matter.
Amazing! Welcome to North Korea! In the US, persecution has come down on John MacArthur and other California pastors and churches. When a nation turns its back on Godly principles this is what happens As has been shared more is coming My church in NJ is praying God bless Pastor Coates his family and his whole congregation!
I'm from the US. I said what the lawyer said soon after this started to our church leadership. One respone I got was "we don't want to lose our tax exemption". It's all about the money!
@@dcorgan777 I'm sorry that I didn't make myself clear. In the last part of the discussion the pastor asked the lawyer what people can and should be doing? The lawyer said that the people of Canada and the rest of the world need to be "pushing back" against the overreaching government. I live in the US and suggested this to our church leadership. One response that I got is "we don't want to lose our tax exemption". I don't know how many countries have tax exemption. But it's no longer a blessing to have it's bondage.
Walter Branden yes I did watch his service and I support what he is doing, standing against the overreach of the government. I think if a church is more concerned about losing their tax exemption it's time to find a new church. I did not hear Pastor James say that he was concerned about losing his tax exemption
@@prayunceasingly2029 And that very well could be; freedom means freedom for everyone; it just seems as if a special hatred is reserved for Christianity.
@@patrickc3419 It's because Christians hold to the importance of meeting the strongest that the state is reacting so extreme towards us. The state today seemingly thinks it is the only authority. It doesn't honor God.
@@onyourcoffeebreak2476 we can still have an righteous indignation at the government because it is still an injustice. What has happened to James is actually criminal. Listen to James’ last sermon @ Gracelife church of Edmonton. It is one of the best I have heard. Being heard all over the world.
This whole business involving the churches, free speech, the attack on what a real family is supposed to be, etc, is absolutely disgusting. For all of the people who have been blessed with being awake, to recognize these are very frightening times, consider yourselves very fortunate. I truly believe this is supposed to be an opportunity, given to those who are yet very much in a coma, to wake up and make their stand with God, not their I-phone. This is an awakening period for 'all' on earth. This is the beginning of the end of tyranny. God bless!
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance and a willingness to act in its defense." -Unknown. While the rest of us are busy sitting in front of our keyboards making all sorts of heroic statements on how to take back Canada and calling politicians all sorts of nasty names,...this one, humble, gentle man actually sacrifices his freedom for others. "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds" Pray for this man
@@janeankehler4520 you are welcome. The Bible says "woe to thee at ease in Zion", sadly too much of the church is blissfully unaware of what's right at the door step. I'm praying for the pastor and that this unfortunate incident will be a real wake up call. We're in a gathering storm.
If governments feel they need to restrict freedoms they need to demonstrate why these emergency measures are necessary, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND! In BC, the government has spun it this way: "the churches have provided no evidence from anybody with a scientific or medical background to say the orders are not reasonable." I don't imagine it is any different in Alberta. Governments are acting with impunity. This is what the constitution says: 1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
Aubrey, you are correct. Unfortunately you failed to mention the part, that the Canadian Carter is subject to (8(1)(a) of the federal Emergency Act of 1985 and 38(1)(c) of the Alberta Public Health Act. ...so, your argument falls apart.
Hope he does like Paul and Silas. Can Jesus bear the cross alone and all the world go free, no there is a cross for you and me. Maybe the Father has some some souls in that place for the pastor to bring to Him. In Jesus'name. Amen.
Where is the Conservative Premier Kenny? Kenny should step in and tell his cronies,that are circumventing our constitution through the public health acts, to stand Down! We are in a non conventional war people, all the provinces have different regulations, time to stand up across the nation and take back our land. ALL Pastors MUST open their churches in solidarity with Pastor Coates. Otherwise we will not get our rights back nor our churches. If the churches opened then the businesses would be encouraged to open as well, WHERE are the Shepherds????!!!
I have contacted churches I used to go to and challenged the pastor why they have closed and why they have not stood up for Jesus Christ. They laughed at me. Yes, the actually laughed with evil derision and mocking straight at my face. Shame Village Church in Surrey. Shame Cloverdale Baptist Church. You have shown you are not true Christians.
@@emmaelias1946 What God has shown is that most churches are just country clubs. There is no depth there in the truth. There is no courage. Satan is in charge through those churches. There is now absolute proof that the Laodicean Church of Revelation is in place. As science now proves that there is no virus (there is disease however), these churches will be held to account.
On the bright side, I wonder how many people will come to Christ in the jail where he is being held. He won't be the only person in there and this testimony plus his love for people will draw those around him, especially those who have lost hope.
Praying he will share the good news of the kingdom of God in the prison for the time he is there. Of course we are not happy for the fact he's there, but the Father may prune for more fruit. Lord, reveal to him who You have already prepared.
The Bible says that God will use the weak to shame the strong, the fools to shame the wise, all to show that the power comes from Him, not from our strength. It is God’s story, God is the authority, ans he often chooses those who don’t seem fit to complete the biggest tasks - Moses had problems with his speech yet was called to be God’s spokesperson. David was a small, young man but was called to fight Goliath. The list goes on. I’m not saying that I believe James Kitchen is a fool or weak, to be clear. But if you think that he isn’t well spoken, then I think you should be excited and anticipate seeing God’s power in a mighty way through him. What God starts, no man can stop.
I would be willing to bet that the jail is not complying with the government’s own public health order. It would surprise me if it were. If the jail doesn’t meet those conditions, and that’s where he’s housed, well, he’s part of the public, with whom their supposed to be concerned.
James Kitchen the attorney states at 14.00 Minutes: „ There are arguments on both side.“ Which side takes the lawyer ?? It may be difficult for J. Kitchen because he can be the next , to lose his license for practicing law! Why should such a good preacher, as James Coates is give in to the order, not to preach any longer?
The judge created a condition which made it impossible for the Pastor to go against his own conscious while remaining entirely upfront and honest and to not lie....
#3400 is it fair to say that narrow is the way in this situation and god is speaking loudly? i dont have a church to go to so im guilty by association, however im asking god to get me to a church so to walk in obedience. i dont even want to do zoom as to me thats a sure compromise as pastor coats mentioned in his sunday sermon. however a bro? said to use what you have???????
Pastor Coates tasted just a tiny bit of what our brothers and sisters in Muslim countries go through everyday. And he has God smiling. But get ready brothers and sisters because this will become the norm as we get closer to the rapture and the tribulation. Praise Jesus!!
It seems so wildly impossible to imagine that the people still willfully in a comatose state after a year of this insanity... will ever wake up. I don't know what to think any more... Sometimes I'm certain it's all a mass awakening happening at turtle-speed, and all is perfect; divine timing. Other times... watching zombies in masks, salivating with excitement over the mark of the beast... that's when I lose my ability to hold on to hope... (I also heard David icke speak in an interview about the coming of 6g and 7g! How will humanity survive that?)
I'm confused here, can he not preach outside? To my understanding the condition does not prevent him from preaching, it's that they wear masks, and keep to the 15% capacity. So why does he just not meet outside where there is no building capacity?
Shame on the Alberta Government!! You are a bunch of power tripper's over stepping your authority. Remove the crown prosecutor. This is an outrageous overstep of authority.
Shame on Christians who show no regard for the health and safety of fellow believers or those unbelievers whom God calls to love sacrificially. Perhaps this means sacrificing some conveniences (i.e., multiple smaller services rather than on large group) and even personal opinions for the safety of others.
They have thrown the Man in jail !. Do you really think the crime fits the punishment. The crime of what? In jail for gathering to preach the gospel but not for going shopping? What about the metal stress of forbidden social gathering etc. Please think about the big picture.
@@stevenharvest4517 This is not only going on with Pastor James Coats. This is happening globally. This is only the start and we must fight back. In China the Christian church has gone underground. In the Middle East you will get beheaded for saying your a Christian. This is a battle like the bible says Ephesians 6:12, NIV: "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." This is only the beginning.
@@sapple7016 I am not even going to dignify this with a proper response. Lets revisit this conversation in July, because i cant see your statement aging well till then
we meet in separate homes with a person leading the worship then just zoom the sermon in. Different leaders rotate the groups every week and we may rotate members of the congregation also.
Before COVID, did Christian Pastors ensure their churches met local Building Codes, charity tax receipt laws, etc.? Why? Does the Bible allow us to ignore or reinterpret laws we don't like? Bible says: Honour, pay taxes, and do not resist your righteous Kings and other higher powers; for God raised up and gave authority to them as the ordained ministers of God. If man’s law is unavoidably contrary to God’s Law, openly and publicly obey God’s Laws; and rejoice in any unjust persecution or martyrdom that you suffer for the greater glory of God. Instead of defiance, Pastor & congregation need to innovate how to ensure compliance, yet find loop holes or alternatives so that great exploints for God can still be accomplished, the Gospel preached, and the flock tended. See: Gen 9:5-6, Dan 2:21, Dan 2:37-38, Dan 4:17, Isaiah 45:1, Mat 17:24-27, Mat 22:20-21, Mar 12:13-17, Luk 16:13, Luk 20:25, John 19:11, Act 5:27-29, 40-42; Rom 2:13, Rom 13:1-14, Eph 5:21, Eph 6:1, Tit 3:1, Heb 13:17 Jas 1:25, 1Pe 1:14, 1Pe 2:13-18, 1Jo 3:4, 1 Tim 2:2.
I wish a lawyer would explain what are the legal 'powers' of the orders...on what bases are the authorities feeling or believing that they have the legal authority and power. Obviously they truly believe that they have the authority ..my question is ...what is their basis ? I'm not saying I agree , I'm just trying to understand...is what the health officer has put in place regarding what number they can or cannot have etc. Is it a 'law?' I believe it's called an ordinance what does that mean legally? Is it like a law that is temporarily granted? Is it just pure discretion? Or people talk about how the health officials authority is based on some 'emergency act' . Is that true? Does that really exist ? Does COVID actually meet those 'emergency' requirements? I just want to know the 'legal' boundaries of authority so I can make an informed decision. I also have many questions around 'rights' and authority when it comes to hospitals and care facilities. Thank fully I have not had to deal with these circumstances during COVID but I have had to be a loved ones advocate in these institutions on several occasions and therefore leaving a loved one ALONE in those facilities without an advocate ( family member) is not ok with me under any circumstance, even COVID aside. If anyone has good resources for where to find these very complex legal issues explained in relatively simple terms that would be very helpful. My mother is elderly and I suspect I will eventually have to deal with this to some degree in the future. Thank you. Praying for this pastor, his family and all involved.
In my opinion...A mistake he made was turning himself in at their invite.It was an invite to step into their trap their jurisdiction and by doing so entered into contract with them .I do not consent thank you for the offer but no thanks. They might have come and arrested him for a breach of an unlawful order but he would have been in a better lawful position by leaving the ball in their ...COURT.
Hey, hey Mr. Kitchen. Is there any need to scream ? You are not above the law of God! And you are not the only lawyer on Mother Earth! Here in Switzerland 🇨🇭 my 2 daughters are as well proceeding the law. I fear for James Coates at the court if you are not willing to take a more clear stand for your client!
Wear masks? Are you kidding? That would be complying with tyranny. Wake up. Take the tickets, contest them and over-run the court so they'll have to be thrown out.
@2810. easy for me to say this as i sit at home nice and cozy with no costs as of yet. however, god warns us not to fear man above god. isaiah41:10. praise god for this as hes still sovereign and this may be the watershed in canada for christians to take a look at what they are really, down deep cherrishing above god. yes i can easily say i love god with my whole heart, however i dont love him that way as i have fears of what might happen. these fears need to be repenteds of because god says he has bought me and im to trust in his plan for me. romasn8:28-32?
I'm with you brother. I have the same problem. Im afraid of the horrors that are coming for us but remind myself that at the end of it God will make his church victorious. The suffering the world will experience will bring a multitude to repentance.
@@ds29912 {Jeremiah 31:3} www.BibleGateway.com [ERV]. *praying often for Erin Coates (James' wife) and their sweet, innocent children* Prison time wreaks havoc on a Godly marriage. This is utterly horrendous! Now is the time for action, 'Family of GOD!'~Blessed be the ties that bind through Holy Love, Dr. Lady S.
He is in jail because he accepted his legal status as a "Person". Note when he read Romans 13 he said all persons must obey government. The key word being PERSON. Ask yourself, as a child of God, as a human being, am I a man, a woman or a person? I know that I am a man, I know that a person is a legal fiction and it is man that stands with Jesus not persons. Persons are not human. Persons are not men.
Hear, hear! I am not religious and haven't been a member of a church since I was a kid, but I truly feel for Pastor Coates and I firmly believe churches should be allowed to open. I live in a tiny town in BC and will start attending our local church via Zoom so I can ask what I can do to help them open.
God bless your determinación!
Rise up oh church of God! Now is the time!
I keep thinking of what John MacArthur said last year - "If they want to throw me in jail, well, I've never had a prison ministry before...." :)
They still can do that. I in my opinion Pastor John is to old and a very well known brother around the world.
America‘s leadership has to become more rude before they put hands on such a honored Pastor like J. MacArthur is.
May be in some years the boundaries would be removed to do such an evil 😈 deed.
James Coates is a giftet preacher!
The government hates such a clear statement as he has had spoken out in public according to the scripture.
He became to dangerous.
Here some hints to the church history.
John Wycliffe the old scholar was spared from the prison, meanwhile the Lollards had been tortured and killed.
My English is not the best.
I speak German .
From the US here, and you guys are right. Until we the people speak up, it will never end. (And may God use Pastor Coates in jail to be a light in the darkness.)
Amén!
I stand with James Coates
Me too... IT'S unfair to HOLD him without bail u til the trial!!...GOD IS GOING TO JUDGE THIS CORRUPTION!!... LORD HAVE MERCY!!...
So interesting! Yes, we all definitely have to stand up for our democratic right! More importatnly, we MUST obey God rather than man! Jesus is the highest authority!!!!!
Amén... Say it like it is!
So, Jesus is God? Why is it called the Trinity then?
We're praying for Pastor Coates in Illinois.
Praying for Pastor James Coates! 🙏 Praying for Canada 🇨🇦, Canadians and our leaders.🙏 Through the power of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Me too I am so disheartened by the silence of the churches
Thank you for posting your conversation. I’m in New Zealand. I listened to Ps James’ message re the role of government, and very clear presentation of the gospel.
I am praying for Pastor Coates and for the return of justice and truth in my province of Alberta. It is time for us to speak up and stop hiding in fear in our homes. Let us return to genuinely loving one another as Jesus commanded, which means meeting with others.
Well hold on to your hat my brother. You will get 1000 years of peace. In less than 5 years.. its the pit for the lot of them.
Behold a White Horse.
Open the churches!
Coates' detention is an embarrassment to our nation and completely unnecessary. I stand with this dear brother 100%. God restore our nation.
Pastor James has caused the church to engage in a necessary conversation that needs to take place in our Nation right now. As an Albertan, an ordained minister and someone who has had and recovered from covid, I felt the need to make a video on my channel regarding this issue. Pastor James' situation is a complicated one, but regardless of how we FEEL we must have a necessary conversation about the Rights and Freedoms that our government has profoundly violated!
Praying for his soon release and Canadian believers to be courageous! It reminds me of John Bunyan who was arrested in England for preaching the gospel hundreds of years ago. While he was in prison he wrote Pilgrims Progress.
Lord bless this Pastor and his family and Church.
Of course there is deception! Here in Texas we have no such issue, churches are having services as usual with no hinges.
THANK YOU SO much for posting this. It was so affirming, encouraging, & inspiring. I also LOVED the humility & unpretentiousness of it from start to finish. I have had it on my heart to pitch the mask & this affirmed that for me. Today was the 1st day I went into Target without the face diaper & it was SO liberating. Praise God for leaders/pastors like you & Pastor Coates who actually lead & shepherd your flock. I will keep this in prayer & be praying for a Tsunami like ripple effect of the example that has been given us. Grace, Blessings, & Peace to all!!! MARANATHA! 🙌
Yes! Thanks for sharing
Our prayers are with Biblical pastors and churches in Canada. Originally from England, I now pastor in Wyoming, USA. I have been saying this was coming for years, but few want to believe. Persecution is going to continue to increase. May believers stand firm for the truth of the Scripture and obey God rather than man.
My wife and I are both Christ followers (Reformed Baptist) and our hearts are breaking for Pastor Coates, his wife, & his church. I thought in Canada you basically have to be Paul Bernardo to be imprisoned.
We have been praying mightily for them.
Soli Deo Gloria from Buffalo!
Luke 12:11-12
John 15:18
The good is evil and the evil is good, Christ is coming soon.
Matth 24:14 He can't come til every tribe and tongue has heard. Check joshuaproject.org to know where they are and start praying.
The Canadian Justice system needs major reform. People not allowed to talk to their families if they are detained is unacceptable in the 21st century.
Especially before they’ve been convicted
@@dwaynesbgb What happened to being 'innocent unless proven guilty?' This whole situation is pathetic and super harsh! *Prayer Session for everyone* Stay strong! JESUS wants you for a SONbeam! *holy fala-hahaHaha*~Love to you & your family via: the Gospel (Good News) always, Dr. Lady S.
Thank you for covering Pastor James’ situation.
I agree with both of you. We have to stand up . I signed the petition
Praying from South Africa. Some pastors where I live are so afraid if the virus,it is very disturbing to say the least.
I can't think of many people that I would rather be in jail with than my dear friend James. The church that I pastor is and has been open for the last 9 months.
Pastors unite!!!
Thank you for bringing attention to this! I am a pastor in southern Alberta and we are have remained open and vocal. We have sent Kenney and Hinshaw a pointed letter and an open sermon denouncing their tyranny. God bless you both.
Thankyou - I wish more churches would follow suit
James shouldn’t be standing so alone in this.
If someone caught Covid at one of your gatherings, and say the worst case scenario happens and they die from it; what would you say?
@@Kurauone__ Whatism isn't reality. They have clearly and publicly said that they have had no deaths due to Covid. Matter of fact the funeral that WAS held was due to the strict regulations on the medical staff to not contract Covid and that person died .I see you as just trying to stir up people.
@@Kurauone__ my kid Once caught a really bad flu birthday party. She could’ve died. That’s the risk of life, none of us are getting out of here alive
@@sonrisefamilyfarm8572 so your Christian response is to gather notwithstanding the pandemic and whoever dies dies?
I live in North Bay and we are still in the second lockdown!! There is absolutely no rhyme or reason for it!!
Parry Sound/Rosseau.....same!
As a fellow North Bayite, I agree. This needs to end and we need to be the ones to end it, peacefully of course.
Agenda 21 is in full effect. They are braking our will
@@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908 , globalists ,Psalm 2 , Revelation 13 , 2 Thessalonians 2 , 1 Thessalonians 4 , Romans 3 and 10 .
@@george7776 absolutely we are there. No way even if a person does not believe in the word / Him to not see we are last generation of man , if they truly are thinkers / ponders.... After 5 years of many rabbit holes, I came to conclusion bible is infact correct. 🙏
What we are seeing is the persecution of believers now on our soil brothers and sisters, hang on to your faith in Christ, stay in the word daily, keep your prayer life active and keep your eyes on Jesus and remember the bible say “you will be hated for my name sake”.......✝️✝️✝️
Why is he standing alone.If my Paster goes to jail ,I will go with him.
I wondered why they only went after the pastor when the church showed up voluntarily.
They would not let you go in.
Destroy the shepherd and the sheep’s are gone?
@@pamelah6431 He was given a choice and he chose prison.Canada officials asked him to reduce the attendance down to 15% per meeting.A way around there demands and still preach to all attendees was to do more meetings/sermons per week but instead he chose prison.
@@kingquest2000 the government had no right to demand that of him. He didn't "choose" prison, he chose to stand on his principles. He is a godly man.
@@pamelah6431 The officials gave him a choice of how to continue preaching and he chose to to go to prison. That's not persecution against the church if the government gives you a way to do it.He refused a compromise. We should consider that most pastors would rather preach to 15% groups all week then choose to go to prison and be away from their wives and kids.
If God is for us, who can be against us.
We will not fear what man can do.
the crown and the premier of Alberta are going be sorry for their way of thinking
Mmmmm... THERE'S a judment from above over their heads... And they DON'T KNOW!!
Update as of today....Pastor James Coates whom was arrested and jailed...has been denied bail by Canada and will be behind bars until May...keep him, his family and the brethren in prayer
great to hear from you just spent last hour listening to Pastor Micheal Thiessen and Randy Hillier .Have listened to pastors as far away as Texas and New Mexico talking on this matter.
Amazing! Welcome to North Korea!
In the US, persecution has come down on John MacArthur and other California pastors and churches.
When a nation turns its back on Godly principles this is what happens
As has been shared more is coming
My church in NJ is praying
God bless Pastor Coates his family and his whole congregation!
I'm from the US. I said what the lawyer said soon after this started to our church leadership. One respone I got was "we don't want to lose our tax exemption". It's all about the money!
Time to find a new church
What he said ^^^^^
Jessy: Did you listen to the Pastor's Feb. 14 message?
@@dcorgan777 I'm sorry that I didn't make myself clear. In the last part of the discussion the pastor asked the lawyer what people can and should be doing? The lawyer said that the people of Canada and the rest of the world need to be "pushing back" against the overreaching government. I live in the US and suggested this to our church leadership. One response that I got is "we don't want to lose our tax exemption". I don't know how many countries have tax exemption. But it's no longer a blessing to have it's bondage.
Walter Branden yes I did watch his service and I support what he is doing, standing against the overreach of the government. I think if a church is more concerned about losing their tax exemption it's time to find a new church. I did not hear Pastor James say that he was concerned about losing his tax exemption
Excellent presentation when these two get together! Thank you!
Why do I have the funny feeling that the government would have no issue with Pastor Coates if he were a Muslim Imam or a Wiccan?
Muslims are also prohibited from gathering. At least in my experience, from speaking to a Muslim neighbor of mine.
@@prayunceasingly2029 And that very well could be; freedom means freedom for everyone; it just seems as if a special hatred is reserved for Christianity.
@@patrickc3419
It's because Christians hold to the importance of meeting the strongest that the state is reacting so extreme towards us. The state today seemingly thinks it is the only authority. It doesn't honor God.
Praying for this dear Brother of Christ. Keep the Faith. - Ohio U.S.A
Thanks guys for this massage keep up the good work God bless
I know James. He is so strong and I can see him preaching the gospel in prison!
Hallelujah. May be God sent him there to preach to the prisoners. So, no need to be mad at the government and tax payers.
@@onyourcoffeebreak2476 we can still have an righteous indignation at the government because it is still an injustice. What has happened to James is actually criminal. Listen to James’ last sermon @ Gracelife church of Edmonton. It is one of the best I have heard. Being heard all over the world.
Thank you for this interview 😃👍🏻
in the US the govt was requiring ministers submit their sermons as well,, got shot down real fast
Thanks for this! I really appreciated your discussion and the reminder of the midwives and of Daniel!
This whole business involving the churches, free speech, the attack on what a real family is supposed to be, etc, is absolutely disgusting. For all of the people who have been blessed with being awake, to recognize these are very frightening times, consider yourselves very fortunate. I truly believe this is supposed to be an opportunity, given to those who are yet very much in a coma, to wake up and make their stand with God, not their I-phone. This is an awakening period for 'all' on earth. This is the beginning of the end of tyranny. God bless!
I really don't know what to do about this situation but I hear you, allot of us have been quite for way too long on this.
Praying for him And his family from, Texas
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance and a willingness to act in its defense." -Unknown. While the rest of us are busy sitting in front of our keyboards making all sorts of heroic statements on how to take back Canada and calling politicians all sorts of nasty names,...this one, humble, gentle man actually sacrifices his freedom for others. "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds" Pray for this man
Our prayers with Pastor James Coates! God bless you and your family, and give you strength, our brother James!
Believe me, it has reached the Caribbean too.
Thank you so much for sharing this.
@@janeankehler4520 you are welcome. The Bible says "woe to thee at ease in Zion", sadly too much of the church is blissfully unaware of what's right at the door step. I'm praying for the pastor and that this unfortunate incident will be a real wake up call. We're in a gathering storm.
This issue is worldwide
If governments feel they need to restrict freedoms they need to demonstrate why these emergency measures are necessary, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND! In BC, the government has spun it this way: "the churches have provided no evidence from anybody with a scientific or medical background to say the orders are not reasonable." I don't imagine it is any different in Alberta. Governments are acting with impunity.
This is what the constitution says:
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
Aubrey, you are correct. Unfortunately you failed to mention the part, that the Canadian Carter is subject to (8(1)(a) of the federal Emergency Act of 1985 and 38(1)(c) of the Alberta Public Health Act. ...so, your argument falls apart.
Amen
Praying for this situation. God is in control. Praying for him and his family.
የማታ ማታ ድሉ የጌታ ! ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ ብቻውን ያድናል! ከፓስተሩ ጋር እቆማለሁ! Love from Ethiopia!❤
Standing with You and with our Lord. Praying for courage in Love🙏
🙏🏼.. Pastor Coates is under the influence of The Holy Spirit. Gods anointed one!!!
Hope he does like Paul and Silas. Can Jesus bear the cross alone and all the world go free, no there is a cross for you and me. Maybe the Father has some
some souls in that place for the pastor to bring to Him. In Jesus'name. Amen.
Get Dr John MacArthur's lawyer to help also
Where is the Conservative Premier Kenny? Kenny should step in and tell his cronies,that are circumventing our constitution through the public health acts, to stand Down! We are in a non conventional war people, all the provinces have different regulations, time to stand up across the nation and take back our land. ALL Pastors MUST open their churches in solidarity with Pastor Coates. Otherwise we will not get our rights back nor our churches. If the churches opened then the businesses would be encouraged to open as well, WHERE are the Shepherds????!!!
I have contacted churches I used to go to and challenged the pastor why they have closed and why they have not stood up for Jesus Christ. They laughed at me. Yes, the actually laughed with evil derision and mocking straight at my face. Shame Village Church in Surrey. Shame Cloverdale Baptist Church. You have shown you are not true Christians.
Oh wow they actually laughed at you? It always amazes me that Christians don't see that God is watching all.
@@emmaelias1946 What God has shown is that most churches are just country clubs. There is no depth there in the truth. There is no courage. Satan is in charge through those churches. There is now absolute proof that the Laodicean Church of Revelation is in place. As science now proves that there is no virus (there is disease however), these churches will be held to account.
On the bright side, I wonder how many people will come to Christ in the jail where he is being held. He won't be the only person in there and this testimony plus his love for people will draw those around him, especially those who have lost hope.
It would be wise not to interrupt your guests... it makes you look unable to listen otherwise.
Praying he will share the good news of the kingdom of God in the prison for the time he is there. Of course we are not happy for the fact he's there, but the Father may prune for more fruit. Lord, reveal to him who You have already prepared.
It’s a sad day and getting worse each day, I really don’t think that we should be silent on this because it won’t get better until we are louder
Silence also happened in Nazi Germany, too much also . And look what went on . Under communism as well .
Prayers for all from Texas !
Thank goodness Pastor Coates is well spoken, far more so than this bumbling lawyer. I wouldn’t hire this guy to fight a j walking ticket for me
@@onion.39 I think you are naive
The Bible says that God will use the weak to shame the strong, the fools to shame the wise, all to show that the power comes from Him, not from our strength. It is God’s story, God is the authority, ans he often chooses those who don’t seem fit to complete the biggest tasks - Moses had problems with his speech yet was called to be God’s spokesperson. David was a small, young man but was called to fight Goliath. The list goes on. I’m not saying that I believe James Kitchen is a fool or weak, to be clear. But if you think that he isn’t well spoken, then I think you should be excited and anticipate seeing God’s power in a mighty way through him. What God starts, no man can stop.
God bless you all.
Great interview!
Me too. I've talked to my pastor several times about leading the church into the community when it is desperately needed. He's not buying it.
Find a new church....
Get a new church
@@RGDCanada There is absolutely no church open in our region.
@@kevinharvie9609 the flu has been weaponized
@@kevinharvie9609 time to start a home church brother
I would be willing to bet that the jail is not complying with the government’s own public health order. It would surprise me if it were. If the jail doesn’t meet those conditions, and that’s where he’s housed, well, he’s part of the public, with whom their supposed to be concerned.
He can go and preach in jail. Paul preached in jail. Check your bible.
He’s in quarantine right now, so it seems they are following some rules.
Great ending. May God be with James Kitchen !
James Kitchen the attorney states at 14.00 Minutes: „ There are arguments on both side.“
Which side takes the lawyer ??
It may be difficult for J. Kitchen because he can be the next , to lose his license for practicing law!
Why should such a good preacher, as James Coates is give in to the order, not to preach any longer?
This lawyer is terrible... need a better one for sure
The judge created a condition which made it impossible for the Pastor to go against his own conscious while remaining entirely upfront and honest and to not lie....
#3400 is it fair to say that narrow is the way in this situation and god is speaking loudly? i dont have a church to go to so im guilty by association, however im asking god to get me to a church so to walk in obedience. i dont even want to do zoom as to me thats a sure compromise as pastor coats mentioned in his sunday sermon. however a bro? said to use what you have???????
Any fellow Christians in your area. Start a house church
Pastor Coates tasted just a tiny bit of what our brothers and sisters in Muslim countries go through everyday. And he has God smiling. But get ready brothers and sisters because this will become the norm as we get closer to the rapture and the tribulation. Praise Jesus!!
It seems so wildly impossible to imagine that the people still willfully in a comatose state after a year of this insanity... will ever wake up.
I don't know what to think any more...
Sometimes I'm certain it's all a mass awakening happening at turtle-speed, and all is perfect; divine timing.
Other times... watching zombies in masks, salivating with excitement over the mark of the beast... that's when I lose my ability to hold on to hope...
(I also heard David icke speak in an interview about the coming of 6g and 7g! How will humanity survive that?)
I'm confused here, can he not preach outside? To my understanding the condition does not prevent him from preaching, it's that they wear masks, and keep to the 15% capacity. So why does he just not meet outside where there is no building capacity?
At what point will pastors be charged with terrorism for holding church and be put to death?
I do not like this lawyer
Shame on the Alberta Government!! You are a bunch of power tripper's over stepping your authority. Remove the crown prosecutor. This is an outrageous overstep of authority.
Shame on Christians who show no regard for the health and safety of fellow believers or those unbelievers whom God calls to love sacrificially. Perhaps this means sacrificing some conveniences (i.e., multiple smaller services rather than on large group) and even personal opinions for the safety of others.
They have thrown the
Man in jail !. Do you really think the crime fits the punishment.
The crime of what? In jail for gathering to preach the gospel but not for going shopping? What about the metal stress of forbidden social gathering etc.
Please think about the big picture.
He should have just spread it out, to have several services to comply with the law. In my neighbourhood, they are doing it, and it works just fine.
I think you are missing the point
@@boonwarner What is the point then? Because he is a caucasian priest, it makes him a good man, and so the law doesnt apply to him?
@@stevenharvest4517 This is not only going on with Pastor James Coats. This is happening globally. This is only the start and we must fight back. In China the Christian church has gone underground. In the Middle East you will get beheaded for saying your a Christian. This is a battle like the bible says Ephesians 6:12, NIV: "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." This is only the beginning.
@@sapple7016 I am not even going to dignify this with a proper response. Lets revisit this conversation in July, because i cant see your statement aging well till then
we meet in separate homes with a person leading the worship then just zoom the sermon in. Different leaders rotate the groups every week and we may rotate members of the congregation also.
No question here what the prevailing public interest is: FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE AND RELIGION.
Before COVID, did Christian Pastors ensure their churches met local Building Codes, charity tax receipt laws, etc.? Why?
Does the Bible allow us to ignore or reinterpret laws we don't like?
Bible says:
Honour, pay taxes, and do not resist your righteous Kings and other higher powers; for God raised up and gave authority to them as the ordained ministers of God. If man’s law is unavoidably contrary to God’s Law, openly and publicly obey God’s Laws; and rejoice in any unjust persecution or martyrdom that you suffer for the greater glory of God.
Instead of defiance, Pastor & congregation need to innovate how to ensure compliance, yet find loop holes or alternatives so that great exploints for God can still be accomplished, the Gospel preached, and the flock tended.
See: Gen 9:5-6, Dan 2:21, Dan 2:37-38, Dan 4:17, Isaiah 45:1, Mat 17:24-27, Mat 22:20-21, Mar 12:13-17, Luk 16:13, Luk 20:25, John 19:11, Act 5:27-29, 40-42; Rom 2:13, Rom 13:1-14, Eph 5:21, Eph 6:1, Tit 3:1, Heb 13:17 Jas 1:25, 1Pe 1:14, 1Pe 2:13-18, 1Jo 3:4, 1 Tim 2:2.
They shut Gracelife down. This is great news. I hope you got payed , cause funds might be tight or frozen.
Pastor Coates needs a new Attorney
Is this in the USA?
You give the Gestapo to much credit.
I wish a lawyer would explain what are the legal 'powers' of the orders...on what bases are the authorities feeling or believing that they have the legal authority and power. Obviously they truly believe that they have the authority ..my question is ...what is their basis ? I'm not saying I agree , I'm just trying to understand...is what the health officer has put in place regarding what number they can or cannot have etc. Is it a 'law?' I believe it's called an ordinance what does that mean legally? Is it like a law that is temporarily granted? Is it just pure discretion? Or people talk about how the health officials authority is based on some 'emergency act' . Is that true? Does that really exist ? Does COVID actually meet those 'emergency' requirements? I just want to know the 'legal' boundaries of authority so I can make an informed decision. I also have many questions around 'rights' and authority when it comes to hospitals and care facilities. Thank fully I have not had to deal with these circumstances during COVID but I have had to be a loved ones advocate in these institutions on several occasions and therefore leaving a loved one ALONE in those facilities without an advocate ( family member) is not ok with me under any circumstance, even COVID aside. If anyone has good resources for where to find these very complex legal issues explained in relatively simple terms that would be very helpful. My mother is elderly and I suspect I will eventually have to deal with this to some degree in the future. Thank you. Praying for this pastor, his family and all involved.
How to help?
God is in control.
we are coming up with 127st north of 184 ave Edmonton Alberta Canada Remaned centre address
In my opinion...A mistake he made was turning himself in at their invite.It was an invite to step into their trap their jurisdiction and by doing so entered into contract with them .I do not consent thank you for the offer but no thanks. They might have come and arrested him for a breach of an unlawful order but he would have been in a better lawful position by leaving the ball in their ...COURT.
doesnt this lawyer know the charter of rights youtube wont let me post the chart of rights and freedoms
This Lawyer is horrific and a bad. Get rid of him now.
Hey, hey Mr. Kitchen. Is there any need to scream ? You are not above the law of God!
And you are not the only lawyer on Mother Earth!
Here in Switzerland 🇨🇭 my 2 daughters are as well proceeding the law.
I fear for James Coates at the court if you are not willing to take a more clear stand for your client!
Hi I am Sebastian
Let the Pastor say he won't preach and get out of jail.
Let the junior pastor preach.
We will NOT make a deal with the ENEMY. GET BEHIND US SATAN!
A good compromise would be to wear masks In the church at 50 % occupancy and have double the services.
No compromising. This covid apocalypse is all a lie. Why support a lie?
Alberta rules state 15% capacity right now, from what I’ve heard. That would mean they would have to do 7 services! That’s ridiculous.
Wear masks? Are you kidding? That would be complying with tyranny. Wake up. Take the tickets, contest them and over-run the court so they'll have to be thrown out.
@2810. easy for me to say this as i sit at home nice and cozy with no costs as of yet. however, god warns us not to fear man above god. isaiah41:10. praise god for this as hes still sovereign and this may be the watershed in canada for christians to take a look at what they are really, down deep cherrishing above god. yes i can easily say i love god with my whole heart, however i dont love him that way as i have fears of what might happen. these fears need to be repenteds of because god says he has bought me and im to trust in his plan for me. romasn8:28-32?
I'm with you brother. I have the same problem. Im afraid of the horrors that are coming for us but remind myself that at the end of it God will make his church victorious. The suffering the world will experience will bring a multitude to repentance.
@@ds29912 {Jeremiah 31:3} www.BibleGateway.com [ERV]. *praying often for Erin Coates (James' wife) and their sweet, innocent children* Prison time wreaks havoc on a Godly marriage. This is utterly horrendous! Now is the time for action, 'Family of GOD!'~Blessed be the ties that bind through Holy Love, Dr. Lady S.
The worst Lawyer ever get rid of this fake
He is in jail because he accepted his legal status as a "Person". Note when he read Romans 13 he said all persons must obey government. The key word being PERSON. Ask yourself, as a child of God, as a human being, am I a man, a woman or a person? I know that I am a man, I know that a person is a legal fiction and it is man that stands with Jesus not persons. Persons are not human. Persons are not men.