Pilot Loses Visibility In Sandstorm
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Wow you paid back the 6 seconds you owed us last time
I only see 5 extra seconds. Maybe the next video will have 1 more
Old lame joke.
I was going to hire an attorney...
no it’s 6
@@SkyHighGOAT It shows 5 on my end, on all my devices.
I hear that dust storm sand is great for ingesting into the engines!
Yes, it helps keep the turbine blades sharp.
I was thinking landing in a sandstorm cannot be good for the engines.
the engines are fine, they are tested for this when they are first built.
Those engines have to be ruined I would think.
Dammit, I was gonna say that
I LOVE these POV landing clips. Also, what a nice contrast between the A320 FBW sidestick and the good ol' traditional yoke on the 747. ❤
*Sidestick
Couldn't ask for better quality video of the Emirates in the last clip
Lovely camera work on the A380 visual approach!
Pretty sure Nice Airport is built on reclaimed land - both ends of the runway end in the Mediterranean Sea. Macau Airport is similar.
The first 2 clips of great landings I was worried I clicked on the wrong video channel lol :P Nah but forreal these were great. That sandstorm was nuts.
Our flight to Cape Verde was delayed 48 hours due to a sandstorm in January. It still hadn’t fully cleared when we flew in, an unusual experience!
Another fantastic vid full of great content.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Landing in a dust storm... Man that has to be a nightmare for maintenance crews... that stuff will be everywhere in that air-frame and engines...
Not to mention Dust storms a worse than fog, as it's a mix of wind-sheer and low viability... Kudos for the pilots keeping cool heads.
Damn he stomped on those brakes!
Hmm.. great good idea to manually fly a low visibility approach, and then share the video with the world! Those mid and end RVR’s were definitely below cat1..
The A380 approach into Nice isnt a visual approach - its an RNP approach onto 22L/22R. The autopilot is used and the fmgc is able to guide the aircraft down to line up with the runway 👍🏼
Btw UPS has the policy to deliver as fast as they can, they pay extra fines for parking in no parkings and have no door on their cars for fast delivery. They have pre-planned routes.
Am I seeing a laser pointed at the Egypt A320 at 1:27?
Maybe it's just a dirty camera lens...??
Great video!😸
Nice video
Great viewing,is it possible to make the videos in to 5 minutes please?
Isn't that how Tenerife happened? Not being able to see down the runway is a bad idea...
Egyptair pilot auditioning for Ryanair job.
😂😂😂😂😂
2:20 How do you know it was a visual approach?
It's not - it's an RNP (RNAV) approach
@@bayaweg7223 How do you know?
@@verabolton I am a commercial pilot who is based in Nice - I fly into there every day. It's a coded RNP approach so you can keep the autopilot engaged and it will guide you around the bay and it lines you up with the runway 👍🏼 it's a spectacular approach and it's amazing to see how far the technology has come!
@@bayaweg7223 I know what RNP approach is. But how do you know what's going on in this cockpit?
Full reverersers in a sandstorm? 😮🤔
That Etihad A320 pilot is a perfect example of Pilot induced oscillation! Way way too active on the side stick
You think the sandstorm would damage the engines!
Darude is a helluva drug
All that sand sucked in !
Song??
My 3 Munites seem to be more than 12 in multiples o 3
Bro took you long enough to land!!
Those poor engines in sand. 😭😭😭
We have on-screen radar. But, still, limited visibility.
If you can't hand fly the plane, you can't fly the plane
The sign writer on the Egyptair plane spelt Ryan wrong.
it would be nice if you didn't waste the first few seconds of video with giant captions in the middle. put them at the bottom....
Wow, bad landing of the Egyptair... forced it down, to late flare, banking a bit, bouncing and reverse before the nose gear is down.... that one was unstable should have been a go around latest after bounce.
Wild side to side sidestick gyrations. Plane being sand blasted.
The first pilot still had the run way in view
That Emirates landing was buttah.
Just as much skill required to land a Cessna 172 as a 747-400, perhaps more.
I assume you're joking, right?
@@aaasss-lv6nl No, I'm not kidding. This Qantas pilot has been landing 747s two or three times a week for years and so the skill involved has become robotic.
The size of the 747 does not add any complexity to its handling. A pilot once told me that they are not aware of the aircraft's size; he said he just "flies a cockpit".
The 747's momentum means it remains more stable on final approach, proportionate to speed and wind, than a Cessna.
Landing in a sand storm was a white knuckle moment. Praying to deities that another vehicle or airplane was crossing the runway.
"was *not*"?
😂
🗨️🐞
The A320 pilot is over controlling very badly. Someone needs to correct his bad habit.
The aircraft is absolutely stable thank to those inputs, if the aircraft were constantly banking then we can talk about overcontrolling, not the case buddy.😊
You need some experience to recognise the experience😊
@@lolitoelpiloto 32 years of professional flying here, buddy. Including the A320. This is over controlling. The aircraft was stable because the inputs were so large and quick from side to side, it basically cancelled out each other. No airframe reacts that quickly to inputs.
Please stop mix posting MSFS videos together with real ones. You could make a separate channel just for flight sims.
First one here!!!!🎉🎉🎉
Nobody cares
so?
0:28, "trump supporter", "trump supporter".
The UPS Landing A300 is a special condition, due to the fact the UPS Ramp is actually behind them if they land and pass Taxiway Kilo Kilo. If that happens, there is no viable turn off that would allow them to vacate the runway quickly. they would have to exit at Papa 1 high speed or Papa 2 High Speed, taxi down Papa all the way back to X-Ray, Cross 10/28C back onto Kilo Kilo just to get back to their ramp, so a Special Condition is allowed for UPS Flights to make a max power effort to stop and make the turn at Kilo Kilo if they can do it without having to actually completely turn around.
That is also a lot of fuel burned off to taxi down, turn off, taxi back to, cross the runway again and make into the ramp. So they are taught to make the best effort of a short landing run on the 28C side landings to make their turn off.
interesting, thanks for the context
@@camerone397 yeah, if you look at the map of O'Hare on OSM or even google maps, the UPS Ramp access taxiway is right there just a few thousand from the 28C Threshold and you can see, if you miss that Kilo Kilo turn off, you are having to run down the runway, turn off at Papa 1 or 2 High Speed, turn back down Papa, to X-Ray, wait to cross 28/10C back onto Kilo Kilo, then onto Sierra, Romeo Romeo, and into the South East Cargo Ramp.
Its exactly 3560 Feet from the threshold to the center point of the X-Ray/Kilo Kilo - Runway 28/10C intersection .
so yeah, its a SHORT landing attempt for sure for a A300 loaded down with cargo.
what do you mean by 'special condition', by who?
@@KuostAprobably the airport comitee, it’s generally not a good idea to do max power stops like that with brake wear, most airports are standard but obviously there’s standout cases. So they get approved for special cases as they appear.
Thanks for the info!
That emirates a380 maneuvering to land looks like the kai tak approach
Good old days at Kai tak. Great memories.
@@kreteraketeirreplaceable.
@@kreterakete Iconic.
The Nice (LFNC?) published approachs look quite spectacular on the charts, a lot of circling. 😅
No peering into people's apartments and look at their tv screens.
First pilot: “Any idea where the bloody exit is?”
When the plane take its last breath.
Better than
"Are we still on the runway?"
Ingesting all that sand into the engines can't be good for them.
I'll wager the fan blades are nice and shiny now...
@@IBM29 i live in Saudi, sometimes i go for off road in the dunes 50 km nearby, the underside of my car (chasses, gearbox..etc) always looks bran new when i get home
Wow simply stunning videos! That's a380 in France, what an amazing approach.
747s will be forever missed!
Always banging vids uploaded by three minutes of aviation
The plane needed another coat of paint anyhow.
In 1972 we flew back to Ohio to see my Grandparents. But when we flew back home to Phoenix we arrived in the middle of a dust storm. The plane eased down until maybe 15 to 20 feet off the runway, then a wind gust blew it up on one side. I looked out the window and all I could see was tarmac and dust. The other side of the plane saw nothing but dust. The pilot throttled up and got the hell out of there, flying on to Tucson until the storm had gone. Thst was scary from my perspective. It must have been worse for the pilot to pull off a climb like he did!
No. They were not scared because they are pofessionally trained to perform those types of manouvers.
All the turbine blades are nice and shiny like new again!
and sharper 😁
Great content
I can ever get over just how massive the A380 is. I love the 747 and Boeing more, though.
Jeez! Sand was nasty!
1:21 Egyptair looked like he might have caught a bit of wind shear and it dropped him. (I'm a long haul trucker, not a pilot, so if I'm wrong, please be gentle ......)
First clip.. is all that sidestick movement necessary? A bit to frantic if you ask me. PIO level 1000.
The UPS must have got a BREMBO brake disc upgrade 🤣🤣
What a nice pilot for do a perfect land with that weather
Great vid!!
I am a bit puzzled by the wild joystick input during the airbus lading. Can the control surfaces follow these rapid inputs? Isn't it better to smooth out your thoughts a bit before transfering them to the aircraft?
Depending on the “Law” he was in, it’s completely useless. In normal law, you command a roll rate with left/right deflection with a maximum of 15° per sec. For the most part he was canceling out his inputs before they had time to take effect. Direct law is more traditional but that only happens when multiple control systems are lost. This was still a ton of movement even in direct law for how little the plane was moving. He was churning butter for sure.
He was jerking around that side stick like it was a game of Pac-Man.
Surprised at how much play there is in the stick on that A320.
My thoughts too... and yet the aircraft was fully stabilized.
The aircraft knows that pilots are a little nervous at that stage of the flight. So, loud stick input is not taken seriously.
The side-to-side stick movement made it look like he didn’t flare, but the smooth landing says otherwise.
Fly by wire. There is as much play as the computer decides is appropriate
He made way too large and short inputs. The A320 only needs small, deliberate inputs
1:51 I always find it crazy how fast planes can actually stop if you absolutely hammer on the brakes
Nice video!
Thanks!
I've never seen a plane attempt a stoppie before 👍
Where is our beloved Aerosucre? No video is complete without them!
1:52 He got hard on the brakes to turn off the runway quickly because he had another aircraft close behind him that was landing too.
Egypt showing Ryan they can do it more aggressively
Surely you can't be serious.
I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley.
❤y'alls content
surely you can't land in sandstormed airports -- the engine must be done for
The UPS fat bus landing with heavy brakes and reversers was kind of impressive. Reminds me of C-130 and A400 tactical landings.
Do qantas still fly 747s?
last one retired July 2020
That UPS A300 was acting like what FSX AI traffic acts like after landing xD
Im really surprised by the amount of sidestick movement on the landing
Plane is now sand plasted what color should we paint it now
Sandblasting is the right term.
Is it a new trend to call stupid, amateurish, seizure like hand action on aircraft side stick as "SKILL" ?
This is the second time you described it with the first videos pilots over controlling being so cringe that even a non aviation person could call it out.
Why do you call it amateurish and stupid? It's not over controlling - it's landing in a sandstorm and therefore probably quite gusty conditions, have you flown an A320 before?
@@bayaweg7223 I don't need to fly an A320 as i've seen some videos here where pilot lands an aircraft with grace and minimum jerky inputs even in tough crosswinds.
The fast and furious inputs by these dumbos are basically cancelling each other as commented here by real pilots....dont need to be a genius to figure it.
@@verifiedtoxicangel2411 there's a difference between a constant steady crosswind and a gusty crosswind. As someone who actually flies this aircraft - I see nothing out of the ordinary with their control inputs. This looks like challenging conditions and you can see his side stick inputs are corrective ones reacting to the aircraft movement
@@bayaweg7223 Then i guess it's a subjective opinion as i've even seen pilots have different opinions of the same actions.
What triggered me is there was another video prior to this upload of a pilot literally controlling the stick double the speed of this video as if he was having a seizure and this guy specfically called it a "skill",
I just called it a sloppy action and some actual pilots actually commented on the same lines.
So the title of that video was pilot skill followed by this video which he again called skill and i was wondering if the new trend was to call it a skill.
any info about how many G-force the A320 has encountered?
Do they report RVR and use Cat-III autolandings in dust storms?
That sandstorm one suddenly got a bit lairy, well done the crew
Even the plane is commenting about the idiot landing in a sand storm.
The Egyptair reminds me of a Ryanair landing.
The plane was a bit harsh on the for flying into a sandstorm
Those sandstorms really tear the engines up
Hey google, play sandstorm by darude
Shit .. why he dont use cat 3 and autoland..
Very nice 👍👍🌹❤❤❤❤
Very dangerous
UPS pilot prob had to crap real bad
Nice loss of visibility. 😂
Misleading title... Again
So landing by hand is now a skill?
It´s always been. Most landings are done this way! It´s a skill because computers are still not able to judge and decide, as pilots are. So yeah... it´s a skill. Why wouldn´t it be?
Handskilled , really
Great to see a POV view of a 747 landing!
Ups time is money
This is a superb channel. Love the POV from the cockpit. Thank you!
Must've had decent RVR on touchdown but that midpoint and rollout probably looked bad.