It's so hard to rank teams this season due to how open things are. Gentle Mates destroyed BDS at the major but lost to chiefs on 2 different days at the EWC, but again on the other hand BDS just won the EWC.
It's because they where trying a new style and other strategies that didn't go so well but maybe training for the worlds that's what the one of the owners of gentle mate's say's
honestly as an M8 fan I still think thats just cope, EWC was huge enough to not make such silly decisions, nobody would be willing to walk away from that prizepool for the sake of training for Worlds, M8 were very disappointing and im worried about worlds..
tbh the only two teams rated as high S-tier are G2 and Falcons, and imo these two teams are on the same level; As for M8, I put them in low S-tier (which is still S-tier) but ofc they’re not as good as Falcons and G2
I'd love to see a comparison of Falcons win rate and game% against all the other S-tier teams. I'm not sure if there is a single team that has a positive win rate against Falcons, despite Falcons never winning a LAN final
vs G2 Series score: 2-2 Game Differential: Falcons 8-8 Opponent vs BDS Series score: 1-2 Game Differential: Falcons 7-10 Opponent vs Vitality Series score: 2-1 Game Differential: Falcons 8-7 Opponent vs GM8's Series score: 1-1 Game Differential: Falcons 4-6 Opponent vs KC Series score: 2-3 Game Differential: Falcons 11-14 Opponent vs GenG Series score: 3-2 Game Differential: Falcons 14-8 Opponent vs Furia Series score: 2-1 Game Differential: Falcons 10-6 Opponent Overall record vs other current top teams: 13-12 BDS and KC have a winning record against them, while GM8's has a tie series record but winning game percentage. These match-ups date back to the 2023 season and include events like Gamers8. I decided to look these up on liquipedia for fun using the head-to-head tab just because I was curious too. I'm kinda surprised. I thought Falcons had a better record vs some of these teams.
1. G2 - most consistent team, won last major 2. Falcons - could put number 1 but they can’t win when it matters most 3. M8s - Dominant team only lost to falcons and furia, EWC is not going to happen again 4. KC - they have the talent and capability to win just need to show up 5. BDS - Monkey moon is him, they proved at EWC they can still compete 6. Vitality - Haven’t really showed anything this season but they still have Zen 7. Gen.G - They have the talent to make a deep run, just need to play well on the day. 8. Furia - Made a top 4, similar to Gen.G i just think Gen.G can peak higher 9. SSG - A solid team, if they peak and other teams are playing mediocre upset potential 10. Oxygen- A wild card, didn’t perform as expected last LAN but they have the capability of making a deep run.
definitely one of the most wide open worlds I have ever seen, you feel like 8 teams can possibly win if they peak on sunday, this being before EWC explains the doubt they had between Vitality and BDS.
*Chronic:* they beat Oxygen bro *First:* I guess that's true, alright yeah C *Jack:* people aren't gonna be happy about that... people are gonna be fuming about that one
The question perhaps has to be phrased: What is the ranking "on LAN" with each team "fully locked in", meaning focused and playing to their absolute peak during BO7's. If that is the question, then Falcons is the best team in the world. Will obliterate GM8 4-0. Will annihilate G2 4-1. Also if that is the question, then KCorp is an extremely close second. These are the two "hybrid" teams at Worlds. They have the flexibility to become the opposite of whatever team they are facing. I'll say what Falcons needs to do to get past second place in (every) finals, I've been waiting much of the year/season to say it: They need to ignore Kiilleerrz. Yes, that is the secret. Rw9 and Trk have to play as if it is 2v3, against every top team. There is a reason for this, and it is straightforward: Kiilleerrz' mechanics have fallen behind relative to the rest of the world. He is around the B to B- (USA grading) range right now, his offense is almost entirely linear, predictable. The other two need to ignore him 'completely', and he'll just swoop in and 'save the day' when needed, offensively or defensively. No twinergy, no nothing, essentially ignore him and let him fit into the plays at the last moment. He'll consistently be MVP if they do this. A strategy for KCorp is impossible to give or anticipate, because of Vatira, he makes every game and match too complex. He's arguably the best RL player ever. G2 is the ultimate 'structure' team, and this season the structural teams are shining. I felt strongly based on calculations that the volatile teams would outpace them late in the season, so far that has not happened to the level expected. Glimpses of GenG and streaks of BDS, but few and far between. If the dominant theme at Worlds is structure then it's G2 vs GM8 for the final. If the theme is volatility then it's BDS vs GenG. If it's hybrid then it's Falcons vs KCorp. No added thoughts for BDS, just that M0nkey M00n needs to not lean back in his chair. GenG legitimately sweeps Vitality 4-0 in a huge tournament just a few days ago, and still Jack places them ahead of his own team. The Zen hero-worship continues. Vitality might lock in, but the synergy between Alpha54 and Zen has been absent all season long. Will it mysteriously return the last few days? Unlikely but possible The 1v1 matches between Jack and Evoh at his channel revealed something, might be too late to capitalize on it. The way Evoh swept Jack in 3 games looked eerily similar to that Falcons vs GenG match, we all know the one. Jack should have private matches with Evoh, 1 or 2 hours a day, pay him for them, and get really accustomed to that chaotic speed. Typically, Jack plays 1v1 analytically and with the intention to learn and win the next game against the same person, which he oftentimes does, but then in a 3v3 tournament suddenly everything is 300% faster and there is no second chance. Chronic appears to play the speed and style of his teammates. If Jack and FirstKiller fly out of the gates, then Chronic adjusts right to that. We saw from that latest Diaz vs Chronic final 1v1 what he is capable of. We saw that day in the Shift Summer League, when Chronic was the head of the pack. If Jack can contact Evoh, have him play like the 4th member of Falcons in 1v1 private matches. Stop playing analytical 1v1 right before Worlds. Jack needs to be truly ready for obnoxious opponents' speed. Months ago I posted that Rw9 should stop all competitive 1v1 completely for the sake of his RLCS career, every comment under it lambasted the idea, many rather rudely, but in reality he in fact stopped playing 1v1 regularly right at that time, clearly he felt the difference between 3v3 and solo play, there's a big picture approach to these things. GenG can win Worlds. Volatility is a good servant but a bad master. Anyway that's my partial breakdown, for the moment.
idk how gm8 are still rated #1 when they didn't even make gf last major and got swept by oce, while g2 with a sub still look fantastic and falcons look like one of the best when they don't have to think about a grand final lol. even if you ignore ewc, results from last major are still g2>falcons>gm8
This video is recorded before EWC, and they lost to Falcons in an unfortunate game 7 overtime. Not even at Mates fan, but I can understand why they would rate them this highly after the major. Falcons are apparently also a grand final choker team, so if Mates went into the final instead of Falcons, things could've looked different.
@@askepot2971 + everyone else responding with the same answer, I literally said in my last sentence about ignoring ewc. it still doesn't really make sense. and about the close series before finals, gm8 let falcons play their offensive playstyle instead of dismantling it like g2. in what world does that deserve #1 over both those teams? if a team doesn't have ice and you have to "understand" why they couldn't finish the job, they shouldn't be rated over the team(s) who dominated
Gentlemates will win in my opinion u guys forgot they are major winner and they could of won back to back but they trolled their against falcon 4 3 which could of gone either way they are playing litrally in this playstyle that is perfect
G2: Winner of Major 2, Top 2 in Major 1, Top 4 in EWC Falcons: Top 2 in Major 2 and EWC, Top 8 in Major 1 GM8's: Winner Major 1, Top 4 in Major 2, Top 12 in EWC BDS: Winner of EWC, Top 8 in Major 1 and 2 Vitality: Top 4 in Major 1, Top 8 in Major 2 and EWC KC: Top 4 in Major 1, Non-existent in Major 2 and EWC This clear things up for ya?
Chronic is prob the only one i have seen who actually thinks ssg is how good they actually are, their last 4 series against g2 they have a higher game win record, at majors they only lost to teams that either won the major, or made the final while they beat big teams like furia. The most underrated team ever
I think this video underestimates KC. Prior to the first major they seemed really dominant, they just missed a whole event because of a bad day and then missed the second major and I haven't seen them in any off season tournaments so it's hard to judge where they're at. But at the beginning of the season they were favorites into pretty much every matchup and I don't think they've gotten worse. I do feel like anyone could beat anyone in the A and S tiers though depending on the matchup and the day. Like Falcons have a really aggressive style that might be open to counter attack goals but it's also super fast. M8 Alpine look more solid and are just super consistent, I'd say G2 are similar but they rely more on solo plays for goals in some series. BDS does a lot of short passes and low boost plays but they find each other really well and they have good pressure and possession from that. Low key Zen is every bit as good as he was when he won worlds I think it's just a matter of if Alpha54 and Radosin are having good days, they also seem less confident as a team and seem to play more passive. Furia are agressive mechy madlads but they seem a little bit weaker than the other teams in the top 8. GenG could absolutely beat anyone they just gotta get a good showing in group stage so they don't face the final boss right away. I feel like if they pop off early on in the tournament they could get into a groove and potentially beat anyone. It does seem like GenG has an easier time against the more solid teams like Vitality, G2, Gentlemates than they do against more pressure heavy teams like Falcons and BDS. I think it's because they get a lot of counter goals by sending the 3rd man upfield to score off a clear but sometimes if they get outplayed on defense it just puts them in a bad spot and they get boost starved. Also this team seems so mechanical and good at outplaying it feels like they have 1 man back, 1 man bumping, and 1 man trying to get past the whole enemy team, instead of finding ways to create passing plays that make the opponents have to reorient their defense like they did last season with Noly. I don't think it's a worse playstyle at all, they seem better now than ever, but every single player in these top 8 teams is so mechy and challenges so well that it seems like whoever is feeling themselves that day just ends up taking the series. Idk I'm only diamond idk how to really see what's going on strategically at top level rocket league but I think these tier lists are interesting because they try to rate a team in general, whereas lots of teams are good against some playstyles and worse against others so how the bracket looks makes every bit of difference for which one is gonna come out on top on the day. Should be a really entertaining worlds though! Last year it seemed obvious that Vitality was gonna win but this year it really feels like anyone's game. I would love to see GenG or Falcons come out on top, the French teams have been wrecking everyone for too long!
@@somerandomchad469 I mean the same thing happened to Shopify Rebellion. There's no doubt that they're a top 8 NA team but they just had a bad day and lost open quals. It's the nature of this format that they expect teams to be super consistent but any team could have 1 bad day and their whole season is ruined. The fact that KC is at worlds at all shows how dominant they were before that happened.
@@Charlemagne57 you're talking like kc would have qualified for the major if they did decently. Like, the best result they got in the second split was literally a top 4 in the last regional. And comparing them to SR is not very smart. KC were literally considered the best team itw (even after losing in Major 1) and they just butchered it, SR is a team notorious for having very high highs (top 2 finish last regional) and very low lows (not qualifying in another regional.
PWR and secret are definitely above OG, that’s a crazy placement for those teams. Put PWR and secret in C and OG in D Besides that I’d switch furia and Gen G and I would put pioneers top of D, they are definitely better than APAC. Also taking out anything for oxygen, I’d put oxygen above SSG in B but just slightly
Putting yourself in front of furia is blasphemy. Furia resume: GenG, Vit(2 times), GM8s GenG resume: Vit(EWC) It's good that you're confident in yourself but as it stands you're way behind furia.
It depends, but I think furia lately has been quite inconsistent, so it would not be surprising if they fail to make top 8 this time, remembering how they went round 5 in major 2 with a loss to space station, and now there are 9 solid teams competing for top 8
@@TFKiller1 it really doesn't. GenG has been inconsistemt way more and yet you're willing to overlook that for them. Furia is better and there is no argument against it except the weird copium that people have for GenG.
@@kilisinovic Meh, they've both been equally inconsistent. I don't think anything is wrong with putting GenG right in front of or right behind Furia. But if you're gonna use matches from major 1, then don't forget to include G2 on GenG's resume a few times as well. Both teams can knock off top teams when they're hot but neither have shown that consistency to always be hanging in those top top spots like G2, M8s, and Falcons. Edit: Now that I look back on it, both of their playoff results between Major 1,2 , and the EWC were VERY similar. Major 1: Furia got beat by Vitality and GenG got beat by GM8s round 1. Major 2: Furia gets a solid win over Vitality while GenG loses to Falcons. Then EWC: Furia loses to Falcons while GenG beats Vitality handily. The more I look at it, the easier it is to see that both of those teams' overall ranking is interchangeable.
G2: Winner of Major 2, Top 2 in Major 1, Top 4 in EWC Falcons: Top 2 in Major 2 and EWC, Top 8 in Major 1 GM8's: Winner Major 1, Top 4 in Major 2, Top 12 in EWC BDS: Winner of EWC, Top 8 in Major 1 and 2 Vitality: Top 4 in Major 1, Top 8 in Major 2 and EWC KC: Top 4 in Major 1, Non-existent in Major 2 and EWC Now sit down, shut up, and enjoy your sippy cup while you learn a thing or two.
Meh. One top 4 and two top 8 finishes at the big events so far this year keep them out of S-tier. Just because they were insane last year doesn't make them the same this year. We watched NRG go from being one of the best to one of the worst over just a few years.
@@anasmaalim Vitality is a great team, and zen in one of the BEST players in the world but they dont have the level they had last year, its because I said you you should watch recent rlcs tournaments, Im not being toxic, Im only saying you are outside of the status of rlcs and you were so toxic with your comment, BDS is one of the BEST rlcs teams of the world right now (recently they won Esports World Cup) and deserve more respect xd.
@@anasmaalim yeah, the problem of BDS is the inconsistency they have, sometime they are gods and another day they are the worst team of the day, its crazy but I dont know I still love BDS and their playstyle. Have a good day man ❤️
Actually trash takes yall have karmine rated way to high considering previous results. And to even put og and sg in the same bracket looks ignorant. I would put yall and space station in high A and furia and karmine in b. g2 and falcons are the only S tier teams as of this minute. I love geng but all 3 of yall never preform right together it’s like only one of yall can preform each series. Call it a hot take but that’s why yall have come short the whole season.
also here after they ranked pioneers at D and they just eliminated them from worlds 😂
Such a savage thing to do after they couldn't name a single player
@granttemple6881 they underestimated them now look what happened
@@granttemple6881 Karma is a bitch.
So satisfying
Didn't underestimate. Jack explained it in his video. They all played badly, as a team and individually.@mannyman80
It's so hard to rank teams this season due to how open things are. Gentle Mates destroyed BDS at the major but lost to chiefs on 2 different days at the EWC, but again on the other hand BDS just won the EWC.
It's because they where trying a new style and other strategies that didn't go so well but maybe training for the worlds that's what the one of the owners of gentle mate's say's
I don't weight EWC for anything. I do think "changing styles" is often the pinnacle of a teams decline
honestly as an M8 fan I still think thats just cope, EWC was huge enough to not make such silly decisions, nobody would be willing to walk away from that prizepool for the sake of training for Worlds, M8 were very disappointing and im worried about worlds..
@@h-loon3280 That sounds like some copium, you ain't on the team lil bro you dont know shit
@@andrewburget6692EWC is literally more important than RLCS majors. The prize pool itself provides motivation to perform the best.
Bros said “who’s on KCP? Says enough - D-Tier”
And then lost their worlds contention to them in round 4 Swiss 😭
“Who’s on this team” 😂😂😂
here after they put PWR at C but they just beat them in swiss 😂
Shoot bro now we gotta talk about KCP 😭
@@calichin84 facts 😂
Hahaha. So good
Having yourself as A tier and losing to a D tier team in the Pioneers is wild
How did this age so quickly 😭
lol, even better after today
0:12 whos here after PWR beat them round 1 lol
Aaand then KC knocked them
Out! Karma
tbh the only two teams rated as high S-tier are G2 and Falcons, and imo these two teams are on the same level; As for M8, I put them in low S-tier (which is still S-tier) but ofc they’re not as good as Falcons and G2
Here after they got clapped by PWR
do you think they rewatched this after PWR wiped the floor with them
They just lost to QT Pioneers too ⚰️
Falcon is the best one there until they approach the grand final
didn't have the time to approch grand final this time 💀
0:29 D-tier?
They just beated them😂
Pahaha. So good
Pioneers masterclass ggs
I'd love to see a comparison of Falcons win rate and game% against all the other S-tier teams. I'm not sure if there is a single team that has a positive win rate against Falcons, despite Falcons never winning a LAN final
vs G2 Series score: 2-2 Game Differential: Falcons 8-8 Opponent
vs BDS Series score: 1-2 Game Differential: Falcons 7-10 Opponent
vs Vitality Series score: 2-1 Game Differential: Falcons 8-7 Opponent
vs GM8's Series score: 1-1 Game Differential: Falcons 4-6 Opponent
vs KC Series score: 2-3 Game Differential: Falcons 11-14 Opponent
vs GenG Series score: 3-2 Game Differential: Falcons 14-8 Opponent
vs Furia Series score: 2-1 Game Differential: Falcons 10-6 Opponent
Overall record vs other current top teams: 13-12
BDS and KC have a winning record against them, while GM8's has a tie series record but winning game percentage.
These match-ups date back to the 2023 season and include events like Gamers8.
I decided to look these up on liquipedia for fun using the head-to-head tab just because I was curious too. I'm kinda surprised. I thought Falcons had a better record vs some of these teams.
Well M8 beat Falcons during 1st major but Falcons won against them at the 2nd one so it's a fifty fifty ig
I like how they censor only one of the "fucking" but let the other fly
okay i edited this video and i need a swear word detector. IM TRYING TO BE FAMILY FRIENDLY BUT MY HEARING IS SO BAD I MISS ALL OF THEM 😭
OOOOOOOF. Does that make you guys E tier?
1. G2 - most consistent team, won last major
2. Falcons - could put number 1 but they can’t win when it matters most
3. M8s - Dominant team only lost to falcons and furia, EWC is not going to happen again
4. KC - they have the talent and capability to win just need to show up
5. BDS - Monkey moon is him, they proved at EWC they can still compete
6. Vitality - Haven’t really showed anything this season but they still have Zen
7. Gen.G - They have the talent to make a deep run, just need to play well on the day.
8. Furia - Made a top 4, similar to Gen.G i just think Gen.G can peak higher
9. SSG - A solid team, if they peak and other teams are playing mediocre upset potential
10. Oxygen- A wild card, didn’t perform as expected last LAN but they have the capability of making a deep run.
Solid, I would just put M8 at 2nd cause Falcons don't seem tonbe able to win for some reason
@@Yo-pr4mf Debatable, there performance at EWC Kind of puts them out of top 2 for me.
Shit list
scrubkilla fathers KC bro
@@br5073 Cool, whats wrong with it
How did this hold up?
“KCP, who’s on this team? - that says enough, D tier”
This didn’t age well. Outta here lastkiller
definitely one of the most wide open worlds I have ever seen, you feel like 8 teams can possibly win if they peak on sunday, this being before EWC explains the doubt they had between Vitality and BDS.
Well this aged like milk
lose the worlds against a D tier team sound like a joke, no ?
THIS AGED LIKE MILK
3:43 LMAO
CAP INDEED
@@Dubstikz they are in LAN
PWR and OG should be switched. PWR literally outperformed OG at both majors...
It's insanity to put og a tier above power lmao
@@battlecraftx9yeah there definitely the same level but when geng played pwr they looked pretty bad so I see where there coming from.
Love this org for making content
Falcons🔛🔝💚🦅🦅
putting pioneers in D tier DID NOT age well
In honesty lads I respect you as a team but after the loss not to our power but also to our pioneers. This is a fairly humbling experience.
Who's here after PWR beat Gen.G?
So I guess GenG is below d-tier then?
Zen is S-Tier, Vitality is A-Tier Below BDS
i knew some shit like this woud happen when i saw this video, turns out i wasnt wrong...
We all know who's Second in WC 😂😂😂😂
But who will beat Falcons in the grand final thats the question
Real
😂
Love to see FK more implicated than in the first videos
I guess it doesn’t really matter, but Oxygen is playing at world instead of Anything
Just a change needed
falcons not in the final are top 100 percent. they only loose in finals for some reason
nerves and expectation
Tottenham Hotspur of RLCS
Nah cause trk has like 20 reg or something like that crazy farming@@DeltaRunner6
@@DeltaRunner6it's the history of the falcons
Juventus
Editor cooked Gentlem8s
Highkey, good rankings
S tier lost their worlds against a D tier wtf
0:19 yo what the f did he say I've been listening 5 times I still can't understand lmfaooo
*Chronic:* they beat Oxygen bro
*First:* I guess that's true, alright yeah C
*Jack:* people aren't gonna be happy about that... people are gonna be fuming about that one
@@poseurlol Thank you lol it's not my mother tongue and I hardly understand british accent
Good tier list. From France 🙃
Big Karma pionners !!!!!
Well…
D tier, you say? C tier, you say?
Oxygen is invited to world's. Just interested where yall would put them since it's not in the list.
Oxygen is probably S tier when they are playing in Eu qual,and a C team when they are at a major
Bro maybe if you watched the video and note they put on there
@@jamespadilla7070What vid did u watch lol? They weren't there
@@jamespadilla7070 yeah I saw the note saying about team anything ff there spot at worlds but they didn't say anything about oxygen in the video.
@@penguincool6053 looking s tier so far at the major
Great video and great tier list but i still think that people( you included ) sleeps on kc nobody remember their first split but it was something 😮
KC 100% WR against Vitality this season (4/4) 75% M8 (3/4)
not 100% regional qualifications tho so yeah 😭
The question perhaps has to be phrased:
What is the ranking "on LAN" with each team "fully locked in", meaning focused and playing to their absolute peak during BO7's.
If that is the question, then Falcons is the best team in the world. Will obliterate GM8 4-0. Will annihilate G2 4-1.
Also if that is the question, then KCorp is an extremely close second.
These are the two "hybrid" teams at Worlds. They have the flexibility to become the opposite of whatever team they are facing.
I'll say what Falcons needs to do to get past second place in (every) finals, I've been waiting much of the year/season to say it:
They need to ignore Kiilleerrz.
Yes, that is the secret. Rw9 and Trk have to play as if it is 2v3, against every top team.
There is a reason for this, and it is straightforward: Kiilleerrz' mechanics have fallen behind relative to the rest of the world. He is around the B to B- (USA grading) range right now, his offense is almost entirely linear, predictable. The other two need to ignore him 'completely', and he'll just swoop in and 'save the day' when needed, offensively or defensively. No twinergy, no nothing, essentially ignore him and let him fit into the plays at the last moment. He'll consistently be MVP if they do this.
A strategy for KCorp is impossible to give or anticipate, because of Vatira, he makes every game and match too complex. He's arguably the best RL player ever.
G2 is the ultimate 'structure' team, and this season the structural teams are shining. I felt strongly based on calculations that the volatile teams would outpace them late in the season, so far that has not happened to the level expected. Glimpses of GenG and streaks of BDS, but few and far between.
If the dominant theme at Worlds is structure then it's G2 vs GM8 for the final.
If the theme is volatility then it's BDS vs GenG.
If it's hybrid then it's Falcons vs KCorp.
No added thoughts for BDS, just that M0nkey M00n needs to not lean back in his chair.
GenG legitimately sweeps Vitality 4-0 in a huge tournament just a few days ago, and still Jack places them ahead of his own team. The Zen hero-worship continues.
Vitality might lock in, but the synergy between Alpha54 and Zen has been absent all season long. Will it mysteriously return the last few days? Unlikely but possible
The 1v1 matches between Jack and Evoh at his channel revealed something, might be too late to capitalize on it. The way Evoh swept Jack in 3 games looked eerily similar to that Falcons vs GenG match, we all know the one. Jack should have private matches with Evoh, 1 or 2 hours a day, pay him for them, and get really accustomed to that chaotic speed. Typically, Jack plays 1v1 analytically and with the intention to learn and win the next game against the same person, which he oftentimes does, but then in a 3v3 tournament suddenly everything is 300% faster and there is no second chance.
Chronic appears to play the speed and style of his teammates. If Jack and FirstKiller fly out of the gates, then Chronic adjusts right to that. We saw from that latest Diaz vs Chronic final 1v1 what he is capable of. We saw that day in the Shift Summer League, when Chronic was the head of the pack. If Jack can contact Evoh, have him play like the 4th member of Falcons in 1v1 private matches. Stop playing analytical 1v1 right before Worlds. Jack needs to be truly ready for obnoxious opponents' speed. Months ago I posted that Rw9 should stop all competitive 1v1 completely for the sake of his RLCS career, every comment under it lambasted the idea, many rather rudely, but in reality he in fact stopped playing 1v1 regularly right at that time, clearly he felt the difference between 3v3 and solo play, there's a big picture approach to these things.
GenG can win Worlds. Volatility is a good servant but a bad master.
Anyway that's my partial breakdown, for the moment.
pwr is the best non top 8 team, and ALL of the results show that
This recording is as old as my house
SSG A tier
They ain’t on that level
@@elimanatorzt3151 They got top 8 at london and EWC they are A tier for sure behind KC
@@azzouz7873 those other a tier team just stops ssg
idk how gm8 are still rated #1 when they didn't even make gf last major and got swept by oce, while g2 with a sub still look fantastic and falcons look like one of the best when they don't have to think about a grand final lol. even if you ignore ewc, results from last major are still g2>falcons>gm8
This video is recorded before EWC, and they lost to Falcons in an unfortunate game 7 overtime. Not even at Mates fan, but I can understand why they would rate them this highly after the major. Falcons are apparently also a grand final choker team, so if Mates went into the final instead of Falcons, things could've looked different.
This vid was recorded pre ewc
@@Yoshman9rl Ye we gotta let him know :)
The lost to Falcons was based on a last second game 7 game tying goal. It's barely a metric to compare the too
@@askepot2971 + everyone else responding with the same answer, I literally said in my last sentence about ignoring ewc. it still doesn't really make sense. and about the close series before finals, gm8 let falcons play their offensive playstyle instead of dismantling it like g2. in what world does that deserve #1 over both those teams? if a team doesn't have ice and you have to "understand" why they couldn't finish the job, they shouldn't be rated over the team(s) who dominated
Yeah a team from d and a team from c destroyed you, so i wouldnt put you in a or b
They forgot to put OXG in
It's likely they recorded this before the news came out.
@@beakmaster69What news ?
After EWC I'm putting you guys front of A : )
yeah! they looked great, unlucky they had to face the finalists -___-
KC underated
Don't sleep on KC
Humbled by an F tier team😂
Well well well 😂😂😂
Sit your ass down, GenG. You're in F tier.
Show me a better product next season 🙇♂️
0:30 lolololllll
Hello Chronic
I think secret is B tier,they win og on major and get good games with furia on sam regionals
Falcons ❤❤❤🎉
Chronics a Blackhawks fan!?
Gentlemates will win in my opinion u guys forgot they are major winner and they could of won back to back but they trolled their against falcon 4 3 which could of gone either way they are playing litrally in this playstyle that is perfect
ITS TO SHORTT
GEN.G 1-3
Damn all SSG gets is “better than og”?? Cmon now…
Now rerank yourself
All change is falcons 2 m8s 3 G2 1
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KC will win, marks my words
I really hope so but I feel like G2 will take it
Falcons top
2-3 at both majors? easy C
only beat ssa/apac at lan the whole season? B for sure
Im a GentleMates but Kcorp is better than GenG and furia ( and better than Vitality sometimes ) im not gonna say for BDS bc idk what their real lvl is
SSG disrespected...
The gm8 placement alone tells me these guys have no idea pf eu teams
Pretty sure they made this before ewc
G2: Winner of Major 2, Top 2 in Major 1, Top 4 in EWC
Falcons: Top 2 in Major 2 and EWC, Top 8 in Major 1
GM8's: Winner Major 1, Top 4 in Major 2, Top 12 in EWC
BDS: Winner of EWC, Top 8 in Major 1 and 2
Vitality: Top 4 in Major 1, Top 8 in Major 2 and EWC
KC: Top 4 in Major 1, Non-existent in Major 2 and EWC
This clear things up for ya?
Chronic is prob the only one i have seen who actually thinks ssg is how good they actually are, their last 4 series against g2 they have a higher game win record, at majors they only lost to teams that either won the major, or made the final while they beat big teams like furia. The most underrated team ever
No world for you bahaha
I think this video underestimates KC. Prior to the first major they seemed really dominant, they just missed a whole event because of a bad day and then missed the second major and I haven't seen them in any off season tournaments so it's hard to judge where they're at. But at the beginning of the season they were favorites into pretty much every matchup and I don't think they've gotten worse. I do feel like anyone could beat anyone in the A and S tiers though depending on the matchup and the day. Like Falcons have a really aggressive style that might be open to counter attack goals but it's also super fast. M8 Alpine look more solid and are just super consistent, I'd say G2 are similar but they rely more on solo plays for goals in some series. BDS does a lot of short passes and low boost plays but they find each other really well and they have good pressure and possession from that. Low key Zen is every bit as good as he was when he won worlds I think it's just a matter of if Alpha54 and Radosin are having good days, they also seem less confident as a team and seem to play more passive. Furia are agressive mechy madlads but they seem a little bit weaker than the other teams in the top 8. GenG could absolutely beat anyone they just gotta get a good showing in group stage so they don't face the final boss right away. I feel like if they pop off early on in the tournament they could get into a groove and potentially beat anyone. It does seem like GenG has an easier time against the more solid teams like Vitality, G2, Gentlemates than they do against more pressure heavy teams like Falcons and BDS. I think it's because they get a lot of counter goals by sending the 3rd man upfield to score off a clear but sometimes if they get outplayed on defense it just puts them in a bad spot and they get boost starved. Also this team seems so mechanical and good at outplaying it feels like they have 1 man back, 1 man bumping, and 1 man trying to get past the whole enemy team, instead of finding ways to create passing plays that make the opponents have to reorient their defense like they did last season with Noly. I don't think it's a worse playstyle at all, they seem better now than ever, but every single player in these top 8 teams is so mechy and challenges so well that it seems like whoever is feeling themselves that day just ends up taking the series. Idk I'm only diamond idk how to really see what's going on strategically at top level rocket league but I think these tier lists are interesting because they try to rate a team in general, whereas lots of teams are good against some playstyles and worse against others so how the bracket looks makes every bit of difference for which one is gonna come out on top on the day. Should be a really entertaining worlds though! Last year it seemed obvious that Vitality was gonna win but this year it really feels like anyone's game. I would love to see GenG or Falcons come out on top, the French teams have been wrecking everyone for too long!
we not reading allat
stopped reading when u said that kc didnt qualify cause they had a bad day.
@@somerandomchad469 I mean the same thing happened to Shopify Rebellion. There's no doubt that they're a top 8 NA team but they just had a bad day and lost open quals. It's the nature of this format that they expect teams to be super consistent but any team could have 1 bad day and their whole season is ruined. The fact that KC is at worlds at all shows how dominant they were before that happened.
@@Charlemagne57 you're talking like kc would have qualified for the major if they did decently. Like, the best result they got in the second split was literally a top 4 in the last regional. And comparing them to SR is not very smart. KC were literally considered the best team itw (even after losing in Major 1) and they just butchered it, SR is a team notorious for having very high highs (top 2 finish last regional) and very low lows (not qualifying in another regional.
@@somerandomchad469 they made top 4 at worlds, seems like they were a better team than they got credit for
PWR and secret are definitely above OG, that’s a crazy placement for those teams. Put PWR and secret in C and OG in D
Besides that I’d switch furia and Gen G and I would put pioneers top of D, they are definitely better than APAC. Also taking out anything for oxygen, I’d put oxygen above SSG in B but just slightly
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Putting yourself in front of furia is blasphemy.
Furia resume: GenG, Vit(2 times), GM8s
GenG resume: Vit(EWC)
It's good that you're confident in yourself but as it stands you're way behind furia.
It depends, but I think furia lately has been quite inconsistent, so it would not be surprising if they fail to make top 8 this time, remembering how they went round 5 in major 2 with a loss to space station, and now there are 9 solid teams competing for top 8
@@TFKiller1 it really doesn't. GenG has been inconsistemt way more and yet you're willing to overlook that for them. Furia is better and there is no argument against it except the weird copium that people have for GenG.
Nah GenG beats furia
@@BONNIE12YT yeah, as we saw in major 1.
@@kilisinovic Meh, they've both been equally inconsistent. I don't think anything is wrong with putting GenG right in front of or right behind Furia. But if you're gonna use matches from major 1, then don't forget to include G2 on GenG's resume a few times as well. Both teams can knock off top teams when they're hot but neither have shown that consistency to always be hanging in those top top spots like G2, M8s, and Falcons.
Edit: Now that I look back on it, both of their playoff results between Major 1,2 , and the EWC were VERY similar. Major 1: Furia got beat by Vitality and GenG got beat by GM8s round 1. Major 2: Furia gets a solid win over Vitality while GenG loses to Falcons. Then EWC: Furia loses to Falcons while GenG beats Vitality handily. The more I look at it, the easier it is to see that both of those teams' overall ranking is interchangeable.
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jk great vid
😂😂😂😂Na tier list xdddd bds , m8 vita KC >falcons and g2
G2: Winner of Major 2, Top 2 in Major 1, Top 4 in EWC
Falcons: Top 2 in Major 2 and EWC, Top 8 in Major 1
GM8's: Winner Major 1, Top 4 in Major 2, Top 12 in EWC
BDS: Winner of EWC, Top 8 in Major 1 and 2
Vitality: Top 4 in Major 1, Top 8 in Major 2 and EWC
KC: Top 4 in Major 1, Non-existent in Major 2 and EWC
Now sit down, shut up, and enjoy your sippy cup while you learn a thing or two.
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💀Yall are not above Kc let alone furia but your self back Low A NOW!!!
Results say otherwise
how u guys saying vitality arent S?!?!?!!?!? yeah they had some chokers but bruh their chemistry is the best
Meh. One top 4 and two top 8 finishes at the big events so far this year keep them out of S-tier. Just because they were insane last year doesn't make them the same this year. We watched NRG go from being one of the best to one of the worst over just a few years.
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BRO U SAW AT WORLDS LAST YEAR VITALITY SHAT ON BDS MAN
Okay I suppose you didnt see anything of vitality last year xd, pls watch recent rlcs tournaments and ewc before comment
@@alvarourena7319 lmao bro dont talk u know how good they are man get outta here with that bull shit bro
@@anasmaalim Vitality is a great team, and zen in one of the BEST players in the world but they dont have the level they had last year, its because I said you you should watch recent rlcs tournaments, Im not being toxic, Im only saying you are outside of the status of rlcs and you were so toxic with your comment, BDS is one of the BEST rlcs teams of the world right now (recently they won Esports World Cup) and deserve more respect xd.
@@alvarourena7319 word i do rate that nah all good i js feel like some ppl sleep on them but yeah from that perespective makes sense
@@anasmaalim yeah, the problem of BDS is the inconsistency they have, sometime they are gods and another day they are the worst team of the day, its crazy but I dont know I still love BDS and their playstyle.
Have a good day man ❤️
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Actually trash takes yall have karmine rated way to high considering previous results. And to even put og and sg in the same bracket looks ignorant. I would put yall and space station in high A and furia and karmine in b. g2 and falcons are the only S tier teams as of this minute. I love geng but all 3 of yall never preform right together it’s like only one of yall can preform each series. Call it a hot take but that’s why yall have come short the whole season.
I agree with Chronic SSG>Furia
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