Dodge Charger 392 Scat Pack vs Mercedes C43 AMG, someone gets walked at the end. Drag and Roll Race.
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- Dodge Charger 392 Scat Pack vs Mercedes C43 AMG, someone gets walked at the end. Drag and Roll Race.
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Owner of the charger in the video. 392.Niki if you're interested I welcome all questions comments concerns or table thumping. I was definitely struggling with traction on this surface, but it was a beautiful day all around spent with some really great guys. Peace 🤝💯
Well done and good driving! glad your whip performed so well. they said it walked the c43 but it was a little more than that
What kinda tires you rocking? Also are those 275's?
@@eyesofadonai only in the rolls. Thank you. 💯🙏
@@OfficialULT 275/40/20 cooper zeon rs3 g1s. It's an all season because: Canada lol
@@MrM4rvelous do you guys have to have winter tires over there? Aka mandatory?
He put on for us scat owners. Way to rep🤟🏻
Sure did
Not sure that beating a car with 100 less HP is something to brag about ..
@@makstone it's also lighter that matters alot .. stop hating bro
@@FORDST.FAMILIA C63 is lighter too..but he didn't set that race up did he?😂🤣
@@makstone it’s so much lighter bruh
That was a fun afternoon! So nice to see this get concluded after being cancelled earlier this past summer. That 392 is no joke and Xavier knows how to launch it!
We also took some great photos that day, sunset to the east and full moon rise to the east. Good times.
As a C43 owner this is the exact outcome I expected. A tune really wakes these cars up, my stage 1 tune only C43 walked my coworkers 392 charger.
Mopar direct connection factory stage tunes coming later this year. Then it's all over.
@@SacDaddy420 Then the C43 upgrades to a Stage 2 tune instead. Check Mate
@@SacDaddy420 are those better then regular performance tunes?
@@SacDaddy420 Mopar need tunes to compete with other muscle cars. They're the slowest out the bunch rn
@@Runescapian0wner didnt the other manufacturers engineer brand new 9&10 speed transmissions to beat it?
Big girl can dance. Just takes her a while to get up out the chair
0-60 4.5-5 sec. this guys not getting good launches at all. I got 4.9sec pb on stock all seasons in winter... either way tho that merc is fast a good launch should have been much closer at start
Dance fatty! Dance!
Yeah, the Scat Pack Charger has officially humbled me. Those things can freaking boogie! Wow.
😆😆😆
Omg 😂😂😂 I’m losing it bro what a comparison
For a non turbo or supercharged, that 392 is no joke. It’s a beast of a motor
Wouldn’t say beast cause it’s just a stroker 5.7, but it definitely makes solid power
@@Badmon.Bryann it’s a 6.4
@@3smokedog it’s a stoked out 5.7 from the r/t. That’s what makes the 6.4, do you know what that means?
@@Badmon.Bryann there are actually BIG differences from 5.7 to 6.4, sounds like you don't know what your talking about. So like the OP said it's a beast of a motor.
@@Badmon.Bryann the 6.4 and 5.7 are two different motors
FINALLY THE RACE I WANTED TO SEE THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Hits rev limiter twice in manual mode: "AAaaahhhh, this is such a terrible transmission in manual mode"
Reviews other german cars that auto upshifts in manual mode: "us enthusiasts don't like these auto upshifts in manual mode, terrible transmission"
User error
Ong
noticed that too, lol
The terrible thing about that transmission in manual mode is the operator.
Agreed manual mode is a big disappointment. It lags during shits, you hit the rev limiter all the time. My 2019 drives me crazy! still a very entertaining daily driver
Those scats are no joke. Can be had for cheap, too. Pre pandemic anyway
Not anymore lol
Definitely pre pandemic 😂🤣
@@just_a5.7 All 5.7 owners be like... 😂 You not beating a scat with even 10Lbs of boost. Just enjoy your car bro.
@@zaire.mg. 5.7 owners get grabbed by Vqs 😂
Unfortunately we never really fully enjoyed or took advantage of those low pre covid prices that seem like a distant memory now 😂🤦🏽♂️ forgot what things were actually valued at
That C43 AMG! 😍
I was able to Flip my scat for what I bought it for 😂 wild how much the used car value has just 📈 during the pandemic. Owned it for 2 yrs, going for the Hellcat before it’s discontinued 🤙🇺🇸
Damn W person
Thanks for arranging a great race Sam!
AHHHH - the sound of that marvelous Dodge 392! 🏁 🏁 🏁 🏁 🏁 🏁
Thats actually an older C43 that has 360 hp not the 385. If you look at the front bumper you can easily tell. The facelifted ones are the ones that have 385hp and 385lb-ft torque which is the same torque . They have a retuned transmission, bigger turbos, retuned engine, and retuned suspension. It would definitely make for a closer race. Not to mention better interior but thats just looks
Scat with a good launch is hard to beat. Good win!
C43 is great from a stop. It's also not limited when modded since that AWD can handle a lot more power. Modding a RWD just means more loss of traction from a stop. I get the fun in a car with a lot of horsepower but it sucks to lose from a stop and it's pretty much illegal even on the highway the moment you can pass lol
Which is why this car and even more so its bigger brother the Hellcat are not great for street racing
@@vroomgc Yeah exactly. Everyone has their opinions and like what ever they like, but I find the design and interior quality and features in the C class more than makes up the price difference.
The widebody version has 305's in the rear and front so traction will not be nearly the issue as in this video.
Wow, so clueless. Plenty of guys mod Chargers and they are just fine from a start with a tire change.
@@jtc1964x Wow, so stupid. Unless you go full on slicks, which would be unusable on the streets, you're still not gripping from a dig, especially after tuning for more power.
I am pleasantly surprised by the performance of the scat pack
the c43 is such a good platform, i've reviewed some of the tuning options and WOW what a huge torque figure.
I used to drive an n54 335i and while it was great, it was expensive to keep on the road ( i never skimped on service).
I moved to a manual ats-v after spending a ton of money trying to keep that n54 solid.... almost think i shoulda gone for a c43 looking at its potential.
You need a B58 lol.
@@NS416 lol, yeah its an amazing engine
Settle down
Get a GLC43 not a c43
How do you like the ats-v manual? Really wanted one pre-covid but settled for a 10th gen si and installing a short block atm. Those ats-v are hard to come by in a manual.
"This car is so not good in manual mode" says the guy who never hit the paddle to shift it
Big American V8s! Hard to make them hook, but that big torque just goes on forever.
Race a German V8 and lose, this whole test is irrelevant. Line up a 6.2 V8 c63 AMG and watch it die.
@sheldoncoffelt1891 ridiculous comparison, you are a clown. You could buy 2 scat packs for the price of a C63. The 6.2L supercharged hemi is a better v8 than anything the Germans have ever made. There is a race between a redeye and the C63 wagon on this channel.
C63s would smoke your American muscle car
U should run that stinger vs this scat. Great video btw
nice drag Sam. which one is better for daily use? and cant you find a longer road or track or anything else it is?
Depends which one you like
I think the Scat Packs are my FAVORITE cars on this channel. I always expect for the big girl to get blown away, but I think it’s time I give this car the respect it deserves. Those things are properly quick.
That's because a lot of people on the internet lie about their car's ability to smoke one IRL.
A scat gets alot of respect its the people who drive them that make you lose respect
@@user-yk5eg8qf5k I see asshats driving lots of cars, dude. As a matter of fact asshats have nearly taken over car culture in general.
The c43 is very good in manual mode in fact it's one of the most fun cars to drive in manual mode. If you don't have experience driving it in manual and you failed to shift on time please don't blame the transmission as the transmission has nothing to do with driver skills
Where's the engine revs to hear the exhausts? 🥺 great races! C43 are no joke and I'll take it any day of the week as a daily driver. AWD baby!
The c43 in particular sounded great under WOT. It barks and shifts hard
Been here, stock for stock, the C43 may jump the launch due to AWD but the 392 will close the gap and walk it. Stock 392 should reach 100mph in a touch over 9 sec with a good launch and at least with summer tires. That's what might not be happening here depending on mods or the state of the SP's tires.
@@khronin highly doubt those 2 “muscle cars” were over 600 whp
@@khronin You’re not beating a V-8 muscle car with 400hp yet alone 600hp
Stock 392 would hit 100mph over 10 seconds. A tuned scatpack 1320 hits 100mph in 9.2 seconds. Usually a scatpack gets you in the launch, but the AWD helped the C43 in the beginning but slowed it down also in higher speeds.
With a 100 hp difference, who is surprised? A C63 would have dogged that Scatpack.
@@makstone true.
Charger is Beautiful! I have a TOR Red Procharged Chally with a custom Scat stripe. Love it on both cars.
You should have taken him up on his offer Sam to let you have the hit! You still would have lost but if he gave you the hit and a car it would have been closer! Either way fun video! More mopar content please 😊
Impressive to see the C43 holding up to the beast-charger on the quarter mile. on the rolls, there is nothing else to say, hp and displacement will always win. great video!
Great Runs 😱 AMG surprised me. 392 proved it kick AZZ.🏎
I miss my cammed Scat Pack. It put down enormous torque to the wheels🔥🙌🏼
What do you drive now?
@@flip90925 downsized to a CLA45 AMG to begin investing into my first property.
V8 has good top end, great video
Lol there's nothing wrong with the transmission in the mercedes. When you have it in manual mode and run it to redline and don't shift soon enough it cuts the power for half a second. I've seen lots of people do this on UA-cam lol. They blame it on the transmission when it's actually driver error. No offense just saying.
Mercedes is no good bro
@@dommmminicano Oh really?
Love the video Sam
Great video! Yes the Charger Scat Pack Daytona is a beast I should know I have the same car 🚗 and color!
The Charger 392 is not good on ⛽️ I get 20.5 per gallon on the highway however the drive n the V8 roar is amazing every time🙂💪👍
Who buys a 392 for better gas mileage?
👁👄👁 I see 13-17 on a good day..
I'd like to see the 392 Scat pack vs Audi S7 or has this happened already?
Love the 43 just one tune and it’s up
The freaking 130mph limiter! 🙆♂️
Would love to see more c43 races vs other v6s. Run it against a v6 charger lol
True !!
I’ll say R/T
at 4:29, I legit thought someone smacked you with the way you turned your head lol 😅
Didnt hear the C43 launch. Wonder if he just hit the gas. Would be a different outcome on the drag but still a very close race. Car isnt squatting from the back from the 392 camera view.
What happened to the b9 s4 you used to have in here? It was red. Please try to find an 034 tuned b9 s4 to have on here. Thank you for all the content btw.
What was that lag in the 2nd run from the 392 when shifted from first to second gear?!
Loss of traction.
Why aren’t you in sports + though? I have a C43 Scats don’t even come close from a start (mines stocc)
I had my 2019 c43 professionally tuned (throwing down 540ft-lbs of torque at wheels now) and at the drag strip I regularly beat Hellcats with street tires unless they manage a miraculous launch. The tune helped the top end power by a wide margin and can steadily click off 12s quarter mile runs all day..
Where did u tune ? Any chance yk a spot in Houston ?
what tune and 540lb to the wheels i don't believe it and i have a c43 as well
@@bumblebee234 did you read my comment? It was a professionally done custom tune, they had my car for 3 days at the time to do it because at the time it was a new engine setup. Been 4+ years now of problem free driving. Brentuning in Acton, MA did it. And I have Dynos to prove the numbers before and after. They go by BT garage, I’ve had 3 cars tuned by them including 2 WRXs I’ve had previously, people drive from all over the US to go to them, luckily they are an hr away from me
Only 12’s? I had a 2017 Ford Fusion sport with the 3.5 ecoboost and with a simple mail order tune I ran 12.6 on the street using a dragy
I'm honestly surprised the Mercedes isn't twice the cost of the charger.
And you’ll waste twice as much on gas with the scat😂😩
wooowww those chargers are beasts💪💪💪💪💪💯💯💯 amazing races that mercedes still held up its side of the end 👌👌🙌 both sexyyy cars 😍😍👊🤙
@sam can you do 2022 m340i vs the 392??
If you do headers, cold air intake, catback exhaust, and a tune. (Maybe even bigger and ported throttle body) you can definitely squeeze 500+hp out of a scat pack. Plus strut tower braces will that chassis stiffen around corners as well
Saving for a hellcat 🙏Ⓜ️
@@MrM4rvelous oh cool do you have a scat pack already
@@tunjitube17 Yessir. I'm the owner / driver of the car in this video.
@@MrM4rvelous oh cool I just got my 21 scat wb challenger I plan on just sticking with it and doing bolt on i want to make the most of the 6.4
And for amg all you need is tune and downpipe
Nitto ( or M/T ) Drag Radials 305/35-20 with a 1/4" spacers is what i did with my Challenger Scat Pack and made a huge diff on the street 0-60 mph went from 4.9 to 4.2 on the same street ! 1/4 mile 12.8 to 12.2 secs!
Damn dude.. My 19 Widebody Challenger went from 4.5 to 3.7 when I was stock. 3.5-3.6 after 93 tune. Drag radials are the first thing these scats need. Spinning ain’t winning 😁
Seeing videos like this makes me miss my hellcat charger at times but I got tired of getting gapped by supercharged 5.0’s and supercharged Camaros so I ended up trading the kitty for a 2018 10 speed 5.0 on twin turbos. The 5.0 might be way faster but my old hellcat charger was super spacious and comfortable
Yeah, ik I'm not the fastest thing around but this car hits all the right notes for me, my lifestyle etc. And so will the hellcat :)
@@MrM4rvelous YES SIR!!! I’ve actually talked to my wife right after I wrote the last comment and we decided since she was in the market for a new car we decided that our next car purchase is going to be a scatpack as soon as that tax return hits that is good thing we have 4 kids 😂 Beautiful car by the way man love the color and love the exhaust sound
@@Hotshottrucker94 mighty kind words sir thanks. Sounds like you got the family heading in the right direction! If you have Instagram I would like to see that 5.0 and the scat when you get it. Going widebody?
Alejandro: I can now beat a hellcat
Us: and what did that cost you?
Alejandro: Everything 😔
@@zaire.mg. just got a scatpack daytona. Worth every penny lol
in addition to the drag race, could you give gps results
Isn’t the C43 for that year regulated at 135 MPH? Or did they turn off the regulator? That scat pack almost touched 180
This is in Canada.
C43 only needs a tune and she’s fast asl!!!
Pretty surprising result considering the C43 AMG has an over 500lb weight advantage plus awd. I thought it would have at least won in a dig race.
but also a 100+ hp disadvantage
Sam where did you get your manchester united sweater? I have been looking for one today and not one in any store in Ontario!
That’s an Irish Rugby Jacket
@@SamCarLegion Sorry was referring to your recent video of the Stinger vs Mustang.
That’s also a Munster Rugby Team Jacket
@@SamCarLegion 🤣
As expected, throw some basic mods on the c43 such as down pipes/ tune/ e85 and it’ll be a completely different race. Turbos cars just make power so easily
Amg makes a track mode beyond sport +. It would be interesting how it would go if that amg had it to evenly pair up with scat packs track mode
Track mode wouldn’t make that big of a difference lol the modes don’t add horsepower just changes how the car drives not even a difference in straight line
@@mason8557 I have it in mine. Huge difference. It boosts the top speed from 155 to 170. It also tightens up league shift even more aggressive than sport plus. It also adds the ability to use launch control at 4k rpm Which is the biggest help of all. I haven't lost to a skat pack yet. I did lose to an s r t jeep though🤣
My Challenger RT went heads up vs a C43 amg. Not surprised the scat beat him.
Sir, you need to get drivers for this because you can’t cut it 😂. You always blame the car
Yes, I was hoping the owner would get a shot at driving for one of the dig races.
Lmaooooo he alwayssss blames the car no matter what. As a c43 owner idk wtf he’s talking about shifting gears like it’s pretty straight forward to know when you shift he’s just shit at shifting 😭😭
Imagine they make scats and kittys awd and yes ik the jeep srt and trackhawk exist but like a challenger version that's awd
Thank you thank you thank you can’t decide between a 392 or a this new found mercedes c43 helps all new buyers out.
Very good
Good race, those 6.4’s don’t seem to run out of steam.
@@fastsupernova lol better than me, I get winded running to the mailbox.
Dude the transmission is awesome in these
@@fastsupernova haha thats fast!
@@Vanjrl337 same here!!! 😂 😂 😂
They are called snackpacks for a reason one tried to race my Toyota Crown Athlete 3.5 on the onramp he got the jump but got reeled in fast by a fucking car with a way smaller engine he looked pissed off afterwards lol
Repping for all of us scat pack owners🔥
Love my scat they feel good in a slide too charger looks alot nicer imo biased of course
You should do a (tuned or stock) m240i v the c43
Haha so satisfying seeing another win for mopar! 😘
5:13
@@re14437 all I see is the charging winning , I can click on the rolls buddy if you wanna play games! Accept the fact your overpriced amg lost
@@Legendary-2024 lol overpriced? The scatpack is pretty much $50k for a fast engine. Nothing about the car is flattering but you straight line boys stay in denial
@@Legendary-2024 He's correct. "The scatpack is pretty much $50k for a fast engine" The rest of the car has the quality and refinement of a Fisher Price toy. I'll take the Benz all day of the ancient Dodge that is still riding on a 3 decade old Benz platform.
@@deman19901 alcantara leather heated seats .. ok bud sounds cheap haha u moron mustang owners! Go drive your fords u idiot child! If you know anything about dodge they use to share the same platform as amg and owned Lamborghini ok! Until u driven all three like me, you will admit charger is the more comfortable ride! Go home seriously get educated before running your mouth
i definitely think you should either get a mb e550 or a cls550 to go against that dodge
Nice 👌 looking Scatpack Daytona 392 rock 🎸 👌
Man the c43 does great from the line.
Let’s get a revised 2021 Supra vs 392
Good race
If I didn’t have my Scat Pack, I’d want that AMG. Both cars are awesome!!!
That's how I feel, but would want the c63. Not the newer models though prob a 2016
@@MrM4rvelous you are real car man
@@MrM4rvelous are those v8s?
The C43 isn't a real amg. A disgrace to the amg badge if I'm being honest.
@@just_a5.7 The c63? Yeah! It is. My buddy has one it's lovely
The SP is more of a tweener when it comes to the C class….being faster than the C43 but slower than the C63. #CaptObvious
6.4L NA vs 3.0L Turbo will always play out this way with enough road. The C43 AWD system is better from a stop, but the massive engine will eventually erode the gains from AWD and pull away.
#Ⓜ️OPAR all the way🙏🏽
Mr/Sam where you are exactly in which city in Canada 🇨🇦?
Toronto
Is this a 6.4L V8 against 3.0L V6, or I'm missing something?
v6 tein turbo
Have we seen a Camaro SS vs Scat Pack vs Mustang GT yet on this channel?🥶that would be interesting to see which muscle car is faster 👀
Stock the ss is fastest, tuned the mustang gt is the fastest
@@shelbyhaiketic4212 The 10 speed mustangs have a higher top end power than a SS.
If all 3 cars are stock, and on good tires (I.e.drag radials). Scatpack has fastest 1/4 mile times. It’s a toss up for 2nd and 3rd place.
@@danieljohn4603 The scatpack and gt are tied at fastest 1/4 mile time in the high 11's, but the gt traps a higher speed
That c43 with a jb4 will trap 118 in the quarter which is 3-4 mph faster than a scat pack
I think the c43’s are underrated, I’ve seen some on trapping over 125mph on stock turbos
@@PapiAndrey they're a great car lovely combination of style performance and luxury
@@MrM4rvelous agreed, anyone who’s had the pleasure of driving one back to back with an M340i and S4 will know that the C43 is the most exciting and the better driving one.
The highest top speed on a c43 with jb4 I've seen is 114 which puts it on par with the scat
@@Runescapian0wner With a JB4, on map 2 or 3, they can definitely run 118. A well tuned map 6, with no other mods, usually runs in the 120's, at 11.4-11.5.
I love AMGs but I would take a widebody 392 over just about anything right now
If the AMG was tuned maybe it would’ve stood a much better stance
C43 is a monster with a few upgrades
Sam accord 1.5T vs sonata 1.6T ( nice video again)
Coming soon!
@@SamCarLegion no way I’m really excited Sam😃😃😃maybe you can add elentra n line and civic touring
No way that Mercedes goes for 44k US. More like 70k.
closer to 60k US, I was curious so I checked
What are yall smoking? A c43 can be found for about 27K if you go for the c450 amg with the same engine it can be had for 22k
All it takes is a quick “c43 or c450 amg for sale” google search like what
Not the base.
Was the Scat in video stock or built?
Completely stock
@@MrM4rvelous thanks
Nope it had drag radials which makes a big difference for traction. So not stock.
@@vroomgc I do not have drag radials on in this video.
@@vroomgc WRONG
You've got an economy car level power difference in between both
What else were you expecting
Dude was spinning HARD from that dig and still rolled past him if you would of had traction you would of spanked that Mercedes bad lol
Just a little squirrely lollll 🐿️
@@MrM4rvelous I have a scat too man lol trust me it’s a constant struggle to get traction with these beasts
Ya, imagine if he wasnt using drag radials...
This is a no brainer😂😂
I love my AMG C43🥰🥰🥰
Love mine too lol:)
Am more impressed by the c43 than the v8. How would it be against E63s
Even the C63 amg would be a good race
Can you get a widebody charger in this channel?
I have
@@SamCarLegion I saw the redeye! I would like to see the scat pack if you can. Thank you.
this guy was blaming manual mode i own a c 43 and it’s smooth as can be you just don’t know when to shift bozo
One good tune and that c43 is gap city
The Dodges are not really containing luxury，but Mercedes C Class is luxury
Expected this. That v8 will always catch up and destroy 6 cylinders at high speeds. Stop light to stop light tho Im basically invincible in my c43 lmao
Factual. I love how this model looks. The new amgs I'm not a feeling that style
As a C 43 AMG owner in order to compete with a scat pack you will need a stage two catless down pipes and cold intake because I’ll beat them all the time with that same set up.
What is a "stage two catless downpipe"?
@@CanadianMax He meant a Stage 2 tune and a catless downpipe. Which I would argue based on the 1/4 mile races a simple stage 1 and possible intake would take it. Also going catless is stupid and is reserved for guys who dont care about stinking up the streets, just so that they can save some money and get very little hp in return.
A stage 1 tune alone, or a JB4 on map 2 or 3 would be all it would take. You should be running 11's at that point.
Come on Sam (Merch available soon)
If they come.out with an AWD hellcat or scatpack...dodge will be UNBEATABLE
It’ll really be a boat. It’ll weigh the same amount as an suv
That thing will weigh more than Thor's hammer
No it won’t because it’ll weigh north of 5000 pounds 😂😂
They have made awd 5.7s if u boost one of those you'll have a beast they're 4300 lbs by the way if u take out the seats and lighter wheels and racing battery your looking at 3900lbs
Will never release an awd hellcat, makes no sense for them to do that itll just weigh down the hellcat top speed. They can get a trackhawk instead.
Make vid of m340i vs scatpack