It took a moment to realize there was some crook bloke standing in the shot. Just thought that horse had a not so regular leg. Obviously I have not spent enough time memorising the image.
i love how quickly after strickland is like "the six is reconstituted" as if they're a really important task force and not just random guys picked out of basic training. why i believe these movies know what they're doing because this is totally how military guys talk about how cool they are
I feel like they trolled so much in this movie. Why else would they cast Mordo and Connors actors in a completely separate universe just to spark up fan theories online, only for them to never explain it in the movie and just casually had them be complete randos lol
Well, for him to get out of his prison which is literally holding him in a kneeling position with his hands permanently affixed to his necrosword, one of his xenophages would have had to have eaten Eddie and Venom. You don't go to a superhero movie to see said hero being ground up into a mist, do you?
I laughed during the mid-credits sequence where he literally yells directly at us, the audience, about how much of a bad ass he is and how he's going to threaten the Earth --- while he's still in prison and lost the only thing that could free him. I'm sure they'll come up with some other b-s reason how/why he can escape if we see him again (and hopefully we won't), but to lose so handily and be like "I AM TRULY THREATENING! WATCH OUT PUNY HUMANS!!"
@@archangel1of7 no , I’ve half listened to recaps while at work like Eddies son absorbs him or something . Have you seen the two fictional future movies that haven’t been written and probably won’t happen , that obviously don’t follow the comics?
@@therumjiggler6879 I'm specifically talking about Knull. You should read up on his character. Unless you don't care, in which case you probably should keep your opinion to yourself because how can someone have an uninformed opinion on the internet? Oh wait
Do you remember in Solo when they get chased by a giant squid that comes out of a black hole? Because I didn’t! I had to look it up but apparently that happened!
AVI ARAD has ruined so far... * Borderlands * Venom: The Last Dance * Daredevil (2003) * The Punisher (2004) * Elektra (2005) * Fantastic Four (2005) * X-Men: The Last Stand * Spider-Man 3 * Bratz (2007) * Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance * The Amazing Spider-Man 2 * Ghost in the Shell (2017) * Venom: Let There Be Carnage * Uncharted (2022) * Morbius And now he's gonna ruin... * Kraven the Hunter * Legend of Zelda * Naruto As long as Arad lives, there's no hope
Whoa whoa i liked the derp devil and the 2004 punisher, most of the other stuff was trash but a few of those are OK. As time goes on it somehow gets worse
I'm not sure there's a world where a Zelda, Naruto, Bratz or Kraven movie could be good. So... Meh? And last I checked, Morbius is a cultural touchstone that made a Morbillion dollars, so, I dunno man.
I think you’re on to something with the 6. There was a miniseries called Carnage USA that introduced Mercury Team, a special forces team that uses symbiotes as weapons - they only use them for short bursts so they don’t bond with them permanently. The whole movie seems specifically designed to set up this team and then it just never happens. Also, it’s bananas to me that they had to beat up a guy to get a tuxedo when a tuxedo would be THE easiest thing for Venom to turn into.
Sony has absolutely no idea what they are doing and it's kind of fascinating. Its such a confusing mess. But I'm sure this k-null setup is going to lead to something amazing. Surely.
Even Superman Quest for Peace was better than SPUMM. Sam Raimi was literally the only creator worth a damn when it comes to the live-action Sony Marvel movies.
They’re just trying to grasp onto the rights since they are obligated to release Spider-Man related films every year or so in order to maintain the rights and prevent them from being reverted back to Marvel. As weaker as Spider-Man 3 was compared to the rest of the trilogy, you could still tell there was a compelling narrative to tell buried beneath the problems apparent, there is NO compelling narrative to tell in any of these films that Sony is doing atm, absolutely nothing.
Just realized that he was Dr Connor’s didn’t even connect that when he showed up here that’s fucking hilarious and truly a testament to how much Sony sucks
If you’re ever curious to see one of these movies. Thinking THIS ONE COULD BE THE GOOD ONE. Look at the producer list and if you see Avi Arad you have your answer. “No.”
In fairness Avi Arad did help bring both 90s X-Men and the Raimi Spidey movies to life, he still sucks ass but we wouldn’t have gotten the good stuff without him.
Terrible ideas for venom 4 Have a symbiotie T-Rex by Venom bonding with a T Rex museum skeleton Make the villain of the movie Dwayne the Rock Johnson who bonds to his own symbiotie and have him say at some point “can you smell what I’m cooking?” End the movie on a cliff hanger with a piece of symbiotie goo hanging on the desk of the Oval Office, implying the president will become a symbiotie and start WW3 Lastly call the film Venom 4: Time 4 Seconds, and make it about time travel or something
The time travel one should start with a tight angle on a baby and it pulls out to reveal a symbiote hanging over the child. It pulls back further to reveal it’s Austria in 1890. (Venom hides in Hitlers mustache)
4OK was throwing the word around in the '90s (and late '80s?) pop-culture landscape, so AC is a newcomer to it. I think it's naturally just become very malleable in genre stuff.
If I heard it was good something would be wrong, I want the trash, I was born in it, molded by it, I didn't know the meaning of cringe till I was a man
There are so many talented storytellers in the world - and while making a film is a complex process and one would think content and planning are king, it seems the lowest common denominator continues to move forward - even when ridiculous amounts of money is involved. There's no excuse... and so many people appear to fail upwards. It's sad.
The sequence is: 1. Find franchise/character with established fanbase 2. Make passable first film that barely appeases existing fans and brings new people aboard. Bonus points for hiring new/unknown writers for pennies. 3. Tease sequel featuring character/villain that everyone wants to see 4. Put no effort into sequel because who cares, everyone is coming back anyway 5. Make movie promising to wrap the trilogy on a high note. Put entire budget into trailer shots. Make trailer that promises big finish. 6. Shelf the character/franchise until fan interest returns.
Why do people keep praising Tom Hardy in these movies?... His acting is awful and the character is unbearable. It's like watching an awkward addict try to act so he can get his junk.
I would not claim this to be high art and it meanders BUT they clearly decided to make this a comedic road movie. So it kind of worked for me. I would say it's a little better storywise than the second one. I'd give it something like a "C." I think I enjoyed it more than James and Mason.
I don't know if it's because my sense of humor has been destroyed along with my brain turning to mush, but damn it, I thought there were a good amount of scenes that were hilarious. I also thought the pure stupidity of thinking "damn, why is this is even happening right now" a lot made it funnier. Then, that part in the hippy van happened where he litterally said "why am I even here right now" and it resonated so well with me lmao because almost every side distraction (basically the whole movie) feels like that. But also, and I don't know why, he's not doing like good acting or anything, but the entire time, Tom Hardy has this look on his face like he is just completely zoned out and doesn't want to be there. It makes a lot of the terrible effects and sequences just make me laugh, what can I say. "Eddie, we need more money" "but we don't have any more money buddy" combined with that uncomfortable and disconnected look on Tom's face is just so funny to me for example. And I don't know why, but there's something about the whole trilogy that feels exactly like that, and damn it, I'm laughing, so I can't say I dislike them. Now I know of course they aren't actually good, but this movie hit for me in a "so bad it's good" way that Madame Webb just didn't. Strangely enough, THAT'S the movie I thought was really boring and not consistently funny. These movie is much more consistently dumb to me in a way that's funny rather than boring, I don't know, but it all comes down to the subjectivity of what we all find funny.
Why all symbiotes? Making Venom into Spider-man and having him fight Spider-man villains would have been more interesting than black CGI blob versus colored CGI blob.
Or just make a Spider-Gwen movie with Emma Stone. Sony have a lot of good stuff available and yet are happily just to splurge out bottom of the barrel stuff like this.
i read into the symbiote as a metaphor for queer identity/coming out so the final battle worked to me as building on that but i really read into the lesbian scientists at the end so
I honestly thought that's where this franchise was going to go, but I guess that's too interesting for SONY. Makes me wonder what the hell a Sinister Six movie would even be about at this point.
idc how much the internet glazes these movies i'll never give them any outs for that, it's ridiculous, and he still looks stupid without the white spider on his chest. if they wanted the white lightning lines over his body they should've at least been thicker and brighter, there needed to be contrast
doesnt marvel own the rights to spiderman?. I think there was a teaser at the end of the second venom movie that said they were in the same universe which may be the writers plea for marvel to do a "crossover".
@@dankerbell The fact he looks worse without the spider just show that this is a character who needs Spiderman to work. Ultimate venom only got the spider logo after becoming whole again, the symbolism is there for a damn good reason.
I always wished they would’ve done a dark humor rated R body horror/character study type movie.. just focusing on Eddie & Venom becoming one. Make him a villain first & bring Spiderman in for sequels then he can transition into an antihero to stick around in the MCU. I feel like they completely wasted Tom Hardy.
They wasted everything. Brock, the symbiote, transitioning from Parker to Brock, Eddie's total acceptance of power and hate, Carnage, even the other symbiote characters whose names I don't even know. All wasted. To be fair, this is the second time somebody fÚck3d up Venom. Apparently it's harder than we think.
Why is Sony SO determined to only make the most mid, superhero slop imaginable? No one cares about this shit. It only exists for critics and fans to roast, and for parents to drag their bored children to. Why are these STILL being made? 😭
The only reason I can think of is that Sony is only making their sloppy films just to hold onto their Spider-Man film rights as long as possible, regardless of their qualities. Coz if they don't, those rights will be reverted back to Marvel
@@DANCERcow The first one was alright, a decent B-movie. The problem is that they don't aim for anything above the bare-minimum because they have no need to.
The reason no one else is around is actually very believable. Area 51 is in the middle of nowhere with no motels or even reliable source of restrooms or water nearby. If a large crowd tried to show up kind of like the whole invade area 51 post, they'd be pretty screwed.
I haven't seen any of the Venom movies because I've relied on your reviews. The fact that you're struggling to figure out what the plot is to a 3rd movie shows why I haven't wasted my time.
Best thing about this movie is the Method Man verse at the very end of the credits. The song wasn't out for like another week or so, and I went back to theaters for the tail end of a Venom 3 screening just so I could hear it again!!!
I enjoyed the movie overall, I just regret they did a few things, like they clearly plan on doing more symbiote films, the other symbiotes in the movie were suddenly naturally good guys, and somehow the codec is really rare, but really easy accidentally. I liked them general, I like how he seems like he should be the stereotypical General Ross type character, but was actually a good guy following orders, and sacrifices himself. Hated that they put Null because it went no where, and I don't see a spin off from this given it's performance. Had some good laughs in this, genuine laugh out loud moments for me. But also, I didn't like that this film makes ultimately makes the whole trilogy make no sense. I don't regret seeing it, I enjoyed myself, I just wish they'd had a better story to tell across the trilogy and in this film. Oh yeah, and the Six? Huh? I missed something there. What? Huh? There was clearly a better idea there that they abandoned and forgot to cut in editing.
Knull is Darkseid and The Six is Venom's Goo-stice League. Also Maso's additional explanation from the comics would've helped the story if the movie knew how to have a plot
Is that really a silver lining though like if this was you know pre end game yah sure silver lining but now god its mediocre MCU with mediocre Venom what a great time
@@addex1236 mediocre MCU is still entertaining. Marvels and Quantumania definitely had issues but I still had fun watching em. Outside of the first Venom or a moment here and there in its sequels SPUMC has been void of anything fun or entertaining.
Maybe we should just speak with our wallets And not give these Mid and shxt movies anymore Money Look at DC no one supported thier crap. And they gave us "The Batman" something actually decent
6:50 You not understanding Venom took me by surprise. It made me realize that your theaters don't show subtitles. That must suck for loud action movies
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog That sounds awful. I don't think I'd be able to understand anybody with the chewing of food echoing through my own skull, my friends asking me questions about the movie and just movie background sounds in general.
The first one was critically mid. A 6/10 by design. Marvel has enough good ideas and talent to make half a good movie then limp the rest of the way. And that earns them a profit.
So.... The villain is super evil and put in a weird interdimensional space prison. And needs a Codex that's inside the main character. So ... The main plot point/maguffin of Man of Steel.
The first one is ok by itself, but in relation to venom being “created” by conflict with Spider-Man and having no Spider-Man and no hatred towards him= not “venom” just black goo guy trilogy. He doesn’t even have the venom logo
The first one was really different, and not what you'd expect. I'm a venom comic reader so i kinda was "Huh. you kow what. Fine. We've been weirder. Let's see where it goes" and it was okay. Different. The second was taking a really loved idea, cutting bits off it, and rrunning the joke into the ground for the sake of keeping it still a buddy cop. Which was starting to wear thin. The third is just frustraiting, because AGAIN. It keeps cutting parts off of hat make the idea really cool in the comics, and trying to make it a comedy. And the part they keep cutting off every time is SPIDERMAN. You can't write Venom's origin without Spiderman being involved, but more importantingly is that you can't keep trying to tell Major symbiote stories without him. He's important for things like motivation. The whole thing with Knull is he's basically Symbiote Death who got mad about his job. He's a really cool idea, and sets up a lot of cool lore. If you're just gonna turn him into this? why bother! You have already hacked the basic idea of Venom to bits to make this work, why bother even using him. Make it something else.
Venom one was a delightfull what ever with almost perfect Venom design (-the white spider emblem) and promise of Garnage at the end and line "there will be Garnage" and that meen he just is in the sequel but dont do much . Venom two: Garnage tryes to get married thats about it (the prison escape is the only Garnage is a monster scene all else is just talk😏) Venom 3: I havent seen it...
I love movies and collect movies. The second Venom movie, I fell asleep 3 times on 3 different occasions, never finishing it. This has never happened with any other movie.
Here's my obvious cold take. The first movie did well because everyone assumed that Venom would eventually have be in a movie with Spider-Man. IMO the general public has given up on Venom because they know that he will never meet Spider-Man. Sony is a bunch of idiots and deserve their failure.
As well as being an incredibly lazy writing device, the multiverse has reduced the already light on plot Marvel movies to complete meaninglessness. The hero died heroically in the last movie? Oh, that was another universe, he's back now. The stakes have never been lower.
This is the first Marvel movie I’m missing in a while. I enjoyed Hardy’s performance in the first one but that’s about as far as my like for the taste of these movies go.
The reason no one ever does actual comic-accurate Venom origin is becuse it starts in Secret Wars, the original big crossover with dozens of characters. You got X-Men, Avengers, three of the Fantastic Four, Dr. Doom, even Galactus and the symbiote being there is almost like a "oh, okay" moment. No one's gonna get this many high-caliber characters just for Venom origin story. 90's cartoon was the first to adapt Venom, so they had John Jameson (you know, J.J.J.'s son) unknowingly bring it to Earth and then it jumps onto Spider-Man.
Saw it last night. Skipped Morbius and Madame Web but had a little hope for this one. Yeah…that was the last time I trust Sony with any comic book IP. I’m done.
31:45 I'm not vouching for the movie. But in the first movie, Riot wanted to go back to their home planet to get the other symbiotes and bring them to Earth. Making Earth the new home world.
I'm gonna be 100 percent here, when I saw the movie in the US, he did not say "the six" he said something else, like "project somethingmis" i think they may have changed the line.
Don't know about the movie, but this is some facts from the comic series "Separation Anxiety" which the movie is SUPPOSED to be based off of. The Life Foundation (made Green Goblin serum) made those Symbiotes: Scream, Riot, Phage, Agony, & Lasher. The Electric looking Symbiote is Scream. Lightbright is the host & has a "healthy" bond so survives. Lightbright has Photosensitive powers, so they aren't weak to heat or intense light. Eddy Brock's Symbiote wants to go back to it's home planet to conqueror it.
10:25 I was disappointed that there were no references to mxpx's 2005 single Wrecking Hotel Rooms, considering all the obscure 2000's pop punk references the podcast provided us so far.
The lasting impact of this entire franchise will be a 10 minute UA-cam compilation of Eddie and venom just dicking around. That is the only thing this franchise will be remembered for.
I wonder who thought it was a good idea to spunk 120m on a sequel to two dreadful movies few people saw and even fewer people care about. If you have their number let me know as I'm sure I can come up with some equally bad ideas they can spend money on.
sony just doesn't know the IP they have. i'm not a fan of monopolies (Disney), but all things Spidey should be bought back and stay under the Marvel umbrella.
I saw a bunch of reviews saying Last Dance was terrible. I didn't watch any of them and decided to see it on the theater's discount day anyway. I actually liked the movie more than I expected to. I definitely liked it more than second one. Is it a great movie? No. Could I nitpick it to hell? Yes, but I kinda don't wanna. As strange as it is to say, it feels like the movie actually has heart. A whole hell of a lot more than that Borderlands movie anyway. One thing does stick in my craw though. Didn't the first Venom movie establish that symbiote compatibility was super rare and practically lethal if you weren't? This movie basically ignores that entirely.
It's so funny people for some reason thought this would be a big multiverse movie that would connect to Spider-man or whatever. I'll be so happy whey this dumb comedy version of Eddie Brock gets dropped so they can potentially do a good one. Tom Hardy sucks.
Maybe because in the last movie he was literally licking the screen when Spider-Man was on the TV? And they had him go through universes in the beginning... So silly for people to actually believe that?
@@PowuhToSeven Yes, it was silly. On the same level as people thinking Morbius would actually have anything important happening in it. An if you like these Venom movies, you're just a person with bad taste.
Eh, they're not oscar bait but I've liked them enough. Though a lot of that is looking through rose tinted glasses as a 90's teenager who loved Venom. At least they've all seemed like stupid fun with no BS in them, that is besides the BS that's the writing. I just wonder how they'll butcher Knull now or introduce Dylan or something. They sure as shit ain't doing Absolute Carnage lol. Maybe King in Black
I’ve trained my brain to accept these movies, they’re like a guilty pleasure. Seeing Eddie Brock as a bumbling, smelly loser with some goo up his ass is a breath of fresh air in CBMs
But it’s not interesting. Black Widow wasn’t exactly Winter Soldier but I cared waaaaaay more about the characters in that film. I was more compelled seeing Hawkeye reacting to “Thanos was right” at the urinal than anything in these Venom films.,
So your comments toward the end regarding Venom wanting to go home, those are valid, because Knull is a VERY NEW character. He was literally being created and written into the lore in 2018 as the first Venom movie was being made. Knull got popular over the last few years, but i guess due to the fact that hes more directly connected with Venom lore, Sony has first dibs live action Knull? Or maybe Marvel just let them use him cause they have no plans for Knull in the MCU for now.
@@Lusk1993 that is nowhere near confirmed. Sony is off their rocker if they think they can shoehorn their cosmic space villain into an MCU spiderman movie. Knull ain't happening yet
I've got to say mates, I completely lost you guys when you were recapping the plot. Absolutely no idea what either of you said during that. That 3 frame horse is amazing though.
During the last act a soldier said "Thompson is going down!" and not long after we saw a soldier who survive after their legs were eaten by Knull's monster, so I'm hoping for an Agent Venom spinoff if they're not renewing their contract with Tom Hardy
Dan Murrell had an interesting hypothesis that this movie might have been impacted by the previous writer's strike. That they rushed before the onset of the strike and were disjointed after it/during production. I'll watch it so I can't weigh in, but between what he was describing and Weekly Planet's critique it sure seems like a possibility.
as a fan of venom growing up, no matter what it is I've always enjoyed it, sure there is some plot holes in the trilogy but that's the same with every movie, trilogy or saga. being able to watch or reading a venom based story is a breath of fresh air because honestly spiderman is over hyped and i feel like it wouldn't be a venom movie and would just turn into another spiderman movie featuring venom and Eddie and to be honest oh well if he doesn't have the spider logo not like the movies are going to be good or bad based on the logo or not. even Disney has had multiple fails, not every movie is going to be up to peoples standards. just about having faith and giving things a try because imaging how boring and basic the world would be if the same things just happened over and over again.
I don't know why exactly, but I'm really partial to these Venom movies. Like, they're not good on a technical level, but Hardy's performance makes them a lot of fun to watch. I think this was the best (official) DC/Marvel movie of the year, but that said the competition isn't very strong considering Madame Web, Deadpool & Wolverine and Joker 2 are just terrible and Kraven, well, I can't see that being better than Venom 3.. The People's Joker is brilliant, but I don't count that since WB/DC doesn't have anything to do with it.
sometime during the bit where they talk about the plot in detail, I just suddenly realised I'd zoned out staring at the dust-farting horse for five minutes.
It's crazy how most of these studio execs, movie directors and actors weren't even comic book fans when they were young (they were probably the "cool" rich kids who called comic book fans NERDS and made fun of them) Yet some how they are the ones getting to turn comic book stories into movies and they are phucking them up for everyone
💯🎯 just a bunch of rich idiot nepo-babies with bad taste trying to squeeze as much money out of the general consumers as possible. Zero respect for superheroes and comic books, or the people that enjoy them.
I watched all 3 movies for the first time in one day, and I didn’t think they were masterclasses of cinema or anything but I enjoyed all three of them. I went in without expecting it to be crazy good and it wasn’t, but it’s still enjoyable
Saw it. It wasn’t a bad ending for the trilogy. They wanted to do 3 they did three the knull post credit was a hint for Spiderman 4. Where you get see Spiderman vs a different venom they introduce there.
I’m watching this video without any intention of ever watching the movie in question for several reasons. 1. Previous movie sucked and the one before that was okayish at best 2. Venom didn’t do shit during no way home and there was no setup for this character to be involved with Spider-Man at all, and seriously he’s, in my opinion, MORE tied to Spider-Man than the Joker or Lex Luthor are to Batman and Superman. His whole existence revolves so heavily around Spider-Man that I wasn’t even sure about seeing the first movie cause the concept of a Spider-Man less venom movie seems kinda silly and like it won’t work well. A solo Joker movie can (and did) work cause Batman doesn’t need to be present for that character to work. It works better with Batman around, but he doesn’t need to be there as much as Spider-Man needs to be there for venom. A Lex Luthor movie would work also. I’d watch a movie about him doing shit like killing off his parents after setting up a life insurance policy on them, then using said money to inevitably own more than half of metropolis and cause the city’s economy to skyrocket purely to line his pockets and gain more power and just showing off all the shady under handed things he’s getting involved in and his obsession with being “the übermensch” (the Superman, someone who is superior to everyone else in every way) and everything he does to become that. Cause he’s actually interesting without Superman being present. Lex with no Superman present is Paul Allen. He’s got the best card, gets a reservation at all the best places, has the nicest clothes, and makes people like Patrick Bateman extra jealous. Except he owns half the richest city in the world and thinks he’s the man. Then when someone like Superman shows up his reaction is similar to Patrick Bateman’s reaction to Paul Allen’s card. He’s not happy. He is supposed to be the super man. Smarter, better looking, richer, more respected, in peak physical fitness, etc etc.. and Superman flys in and ruins any thought Lex ever had of being the Superman. You don’t need Superman for it to be an interesting story, but it helps if he’s at the least there near the end of the story. Venom though… he’s soooo revolves around spider-man that it kinda just doesn’t work as well.
It wasn’t the worst movie ever, but it strayed from the marvel/sony program where they tease something important for the future, there was no spiderman, no avengers, and no other characters. Knull is gonna have to fight spiderman at some point, but they could’ve teased that without this movie. Spider-Man is gonna have to get the black suit for secret wars, but the venom goo left behind in this movie didn’t get another appearance showing it would go to Peter. Just let down. There should’ve been more character development
ok i have memorized the black horse and am ready for the next image
Absolutely brilliant comment, bravo
Hold on, I still need a few more hours to memorize it
it makes me feel uncomfortable
It took a moment to realize there was some crook bloke standing in the shot. Just thought that horse had a not so regular leg. Obviously I have not spent enough time memorising the image.
Her name is Freedom and she’s beautiful. 🐎
“We need to deploy….The Six” and it turns out The Six are just regular dudes who immediately die might be the funniest thing I’ve heard all week.
#IBlameAviArad
Knights of Ren-ass plotting
i love how quickly after strickland is like "the six is reconstituted" as if they're a really important task force and not just random guys picked out of basic training. why i believe these movies know what they're doing because this is totally how military guys talk about how cool they are
I feel like they trolled so much in this movie. Why else would they cast Mordo and Connors actors in a completely separate universe just to spark up fan theories online, only for them to never explain it in the movie and just casually had them be complete randos lol
@@claytonandres1194 backup dancers essentially
Still blows my mind that they announce a new major villain and hyped him up and then….he didn’t do anything. Like, literally at all
They also said that this was not going to be the last time we see knull.
Well, for him to get out of his prison which is literally holding him in a kneeling position with his hands permanently affixed to his necrosword, one of his xenophages would have had to have eaten Eddie and Venom. You don't go to a superhero movie to see said hero being ground up into a mist, do you?
I laughed during the mid-credits sequence where he literally yells directly at us, the audience, about how much of a bad ass he is and how he's going to threaten the Earth --- while he's still in prison and lost the only thing that could free him.
I'm sure they'll come up with some other b-s reason how/why he can escape if we see him again (and hopefully we won't), but to lose so handily and be like "I AM TRULY THREATENING! WATCH OUT PUNY HUMANS!!"
He sent the xenos to get venom. Creating an order is an action and a verb, just like asking your mommy to clean your room.
They set him up for upcoming projects
The same way Marvel did with Thanos
So excited for Venom 4: Close The Door, where we finally close the door on all the loose plot threads
Obviously spoilers but what were the plot threads?
Venom 5: just kidding Null’s still alive!
@@therumjiggler6879 how is that a loose plot thread? Have you even read the comics?
@@archangel1of7 no , I’ve half listened to recaps while at work like Eddies son absorbs him or something . Have you seen the two fictional future movies that haven’t been written and probably won’t happen , that obviously don’t follow the comics?
@@therumjiggler6879 I'm specifically talking about Knull. You should read up on his character. Unless you don't care, in which case you probably should keep your opinion to yourself because how can someone have an uninformed opinion on the internet? Oh wait
I can’t believe we got more Venom movies than Andrew Garfield Spider-Man’s, Guillermo Del Toro Hellboy’s, or Star Wars spin-off movies.
begging for more star wars is absolutely wild 💀
@@oozieproi do think the spin-offs were overly positive. rogue one was great and solo is at the very least.. fun?
Do you remember in Solo when they get chased by a giant squid that comes out of a black hole? Because I didn’t! I had to look it up but apparently that happened!
The first one made money. That's it
Absolutely no one wants more Disney Star Wars
Why have a group called the six in a Spider-Man adjacent movie and not be the sinister six?
Because they clearly don’t understand what they’re doing
Some Sony exec: people like the number 6, right? That’s a Spider-Man thing!
Maybe it was supposed to lead people to believe it was project mercury reference (who have 5 members).
And not even resemble the original members doc ock etc
Baffling
AVI ARAD has ruined so far...
* Borderlands
* Venom: The Last Dance
* Daredevil (2003)
* The Punisher (2004)
* Elektra (2005)
* Fantastic Four (2005)
* X-Men: The Last Stand
* Spider-Man 3
* Bratz (2007)
* Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
* The Amazing Spider-Man 2
* Ghost in the Shell (2017)
* Venom: Let There Be Carnage
* Uncharted (2022)
* Morbius
And now he's gonna ruin...
* Kraven the Hunter
* Legend of Zelda
* Naruto
As long as Arad lives, there's no hope
Whoa whoa i liked the derp devil and the 2004 punisher, most of the other stuff was trash but a few of those are OK. As time goes on it somehow gets worse
I'm not sure there's a world where a Zelda, Naruto, Bratz or Kraven movie could be good. So... Meh?
And last I checked, Morbius is a cultural touchstone that made a Morbillion dollars, so, I dunno man.
He certainly didn't help make them good, but would they have been good without him? We will never know ...
At least he saved Spider-man 2 I guess. A broken clock is correct twice a day though
Yikes. How do people like this keep their jobs for so long? 😰
I think you’re on to something with the 6.
There was a miniseries called Carnage USA that introduced Mercury Team, a special forces team that uses symbiotes as weapons - they only use them for short bursts so they don’t bond with them permanently. The whole movie seems specifically designed to set up this team and then it just never happens.
Also, it’s bananas to me that they had to beat up a guy to get a tuxedo when a tuxedo would be THE easiest thing for Venom to turn into.
Sony is on a torrid run of releasing just truly awful superhero films.
Kraven is next
A torrid torrent, if you will 😉
A torrid torrent, if you will 😉
It wasn't "truly awful", it wasn't even bad. It was just fun. Not great either but it was a fun 2 hours.
Sony has absolutely no idea what they are doing and it's kind of fascinating. Its such a confusing mess. But I'm sure this k-null setup is going to lead to something amazing. Surely.
Sony went from #1 w the Spider-Man trilogy, to the bottom of the barrel. Trying to be a new age Canon Films 😅
Even Superman Quest for Peace was better than SPUMM. Sam Raimi was literally the only creator worth a damn when it comes to the live-action Sony Marvel movies.
@@li-limandragon9287 u got it
They’re just trying to grasp onto the rights since they are obligated to release Spider-Man related films every year or so in order to maintain the rights and prevent them from being reverted back to Marvel. As weaker as Spider-Man 3 was compared to the rest of the trilogy, you could still tell there was a compelling narrative to tell buried beneath the problems apparent, there is NO compelling narrative to tell in any of these films that Sony is doing atm, absolutely nothing.
At least we knew not to get too hyped for Canon 😅
I remember sitting in the theater the whole movie in complete silence. Feeling the worst feeling you could ever feel while watching a movie: nothing.
I think they hired back Rhys Ifans solely to tell fans this ISN’T the Andrew Garfield universe.
Just realized that he was Dr Connor’s didn’t even connect that when he showed up here that’s fucking hilarious and truly a testament to how much Sony sucks
Damn, I didn’t realize this until now.
You can't stop the grifters they are self sustaining now - dr ock
He hasn’t been exclusive to the AG universe since FFH
Don't say that; you might just be giving SONY some intelligent credit. 😏
Sony is the Asylum of Marvel
This comment fucking nails the feelings I've had toward Sony products for so long
@@smalwexIt’s ironic too since they had the chance to buy Marvel outright but just choose Spidey, now they’re paying for their hubris.
So Ravencroft!?!
Spot on
😂😂😂😂😂😂 🪦
If you’re ever curious to see one of these movies. Thinking THIS ONE COULD BE THE GOOD ONE. Look at the producer list and if you see Avi Arad you have your answer. “No.”
In fairness Avi Arad did help bring both 90s X-Men and the Raimi Spidey movies to life, he still sucks ass but we wouldn’t have gotten the good stuff without him.
@@li-limandragon9287 I think THEY did in SPITE of him honestly, but you are right.
@@li-limandragon9287He’s like Count Dooku, a Jedi Master who fell into the Dark Side.
Bad?...Of course. No need to start making them good now.
Consistently bad is at least comforting.
If venom fans enjoy bad they are going to love joker 2
@@Six9901is Joker 2 worse than Venom 3?? And where does Madam Web fall? What a horrible year for comic book movies
@@Six9901nope are you sped? Are 3 venom filmas are leagues better than Joker 2. Venom films are dumb fun bad Joker 2 was just pure garbages
Terrible ideas for venom 4
Have a symbiotie T-Rex by Venom bonding with a T Rex museum skeleton
Make the villain of the movie Dwayne the Rock Johnson who bonds to his own symbiotie and have him say at some point “can you smell what I’m cooking?”
End the movie on a cliff hanger with a piece of symbiotie goo hanging on the desk of the Oval Office, implying the president will become a symbiotie and start WW3
Lastly call the film Venom 4: Time 4 Seconds, and make it about time travel or something
The time travel one should start with a tight angle on a baby and it pulls out to reveal a symbiote hanging over the child. It pulls back further to reveal it’s Austria in 1890. (Venom hides in Hitlers mustache)
@@coolieo2222 No, Venom IS Hitler's mustache. Trademarked, copyrighted, all rights reserved.
"Like shootin' monkeys in a barrel."
Make it a multiverse film, and bring back Topher Grace Venom somehow.
@@StarblazerTV I like it. Venom across the slimer verse
where in pop culture did Codex turn into 'key'? Codex is just a word for 'book', after scrolls. Is Assassin's Creed to blame?
4OK was throwing the word around in the '90s (and late '80s?) pop-culture landscape, so AC is a newcomer to it. I think it's naturally just become very malleable in genre stuff.
@@SabiJDYeah, but in that it’s also still a book.
Things with "ex" sound cool. Its the Index in halo and is also a big dumb space key.
A book can also be a key...
But I'm not defending this film.
My son cried because of the ending. I cried because we should have went to see the Wild Robot.
I cried that Transformers One has to compete with this and will not get it's flowers in the box office.
Be aware everyone, the title is completely correct
Wrong.
Incorrect
Nope it’s a bad movie
you can just use the word "beware," they invented it for these situations
If I heard it was good something would be wrong, I want the trash, I was born in it, molded by it, I didn't know the meaning of cringe till I was a man
This isn’t even entertaining trash though. This movie is just sad trash
*applauds*
There are so many talented storytellers in the world - and while making a film is a complex process and one would think content and planning are king, it seems the lowest common denominator continues to move forward - even when ridiculous amounts of money is involved. There's no excuse... and so many people appear to fail upwards. It's sad.
The sequence is:
1. Find franchise/character with established fanbase
2. Make passable first film that barely appeases existing fans and brings new people aboard. Bonus points for hiring new/unknown writers for pennies.
3. Tease sequel featuring character/villain that everyone wants to see
4. Put no effort into sequel because who cares, everyone is coming back anyway
5. Make movie promising to wrap the trilogy on a high note. Put entire budget into trailer shots. Make trailer that promises big finish.
6. Shelf the character/franchise until fan interest returns.
Why do people keep praising Tom Hardy in these movies?... His acting is awful and the character is unbearable. It's like watching an awkward addict try to act so he can get his junk.
thank you for everything venom I'll join you in your last dance
I would not claim this to be high art and it meanders BUT they clearly decided to make this a comedic road movie. So it kind of worked for me. I would say it's a little better storywise than the second one. I'd give it something like a "C." I think I enjoyed it more than James and Mason.
I don't know if it's because my sense of humor has been destroyed along with my brain turning to mush, but damn it, I thought there were a good amount of scenes that were hilarious. I also thought the pure stupidity of thinking "damn, why is this is even happening right now" a lot made it funnier. Then, that part in the hippy van happened where he litterally said "why am I even here right now" and it resonated so well with me lmao because almost every side distraction (basically the whole movie) feels like that.
But also, and I don't know why, he's not doing like good acting or anything, but the entire time, Tom Hardy has this look on his face like he is just completely zoned out and doesn't want to be there. It makes a lot of the terrible effects and sequences just make me laugh, what can I say. "Eddie, we need more money" "but we don't have any more money buddy" combined with that uncomfortable and disconnected look on Tom's face is just so funny to me for example.
And I don't know why, but there's something about the whole trilogy that feels exactly like that, and damn it, I'm laughing, so I can't say I dislike them. Now I know of course they aren't actually good, but this movie hit for me in a "so bad it's good" way that Madame Webb just didn't. Strangely enough, THAT'S the movie I thought was really boring and not consistently funny. These movie is much more consistently dumb to me in a way that's funny rather than boring, I don't know, but it all comes down to the subjectivity of what we all find funny.
Love how they don't even reveal who the shadowy government agent guy is.
Probably the same shadowy government agent guy from the ASM films
Apparently it was supposed to be Anne's fiancee, Dan from the previous movies.
Why all symbiotes? Making Venom into Spider-man and having him fight Spider-man villains would have been more interesting than black CGI blob versus colored CGI blob.
Or just make a Spider-Gwen movie with Emma Stone. Sony have a lot of good stuff available and yet are happily just to splurge out bottom of the barrel stuff like this.
i read into the symbiote as a metaphor for queer identity/coming out so the final battle worked to me as building on that but i really read into the lesbian scientists at the end so
@@bzenga5981tf
I honestly thought that's where this franchise was going to go, but I guess that's too interesting for SONY. Makes me wonder what the hell a Sinister Six movie would even be about at this point.
@@Kango234 Let's hope they never do one.
How are you going to make a Venom trilogy and never have Spiderman in it
Also, without Venom, Carnage, or Knull in them . . . I have no idea who any of these characters are
idc how much the internet glazes these movies i'll never give them any outs for that, it's ridiculous, and he still looks stupid without the white spider on his chest. if they wanted the white lightning lines over his body they should've at least been thicker and brighter, there needed to be contrast
doesnt marvel own the rights to spiderman?.
I think there was a teaser at the end of the second venom movie that said they were in the same universe which may be the writers plea for marvel to do a "crossover".
@@dankerbell The fact he looks worse without the spider just show that this is a character who needs Spiderman to work. Ultimate venom only got the spider logo after becoming whole again, the symbolism is there for a damn good reason.
@@Shoxic666I think some villains can work without their heroes, Doctor Doom most famously. But Venom without Spidey is just a gooey guy.
Jam Jar is my favorite symbiote
I always wished they would’ve done a dark humor rated R body horror/character study type movie.. just focusing on Eddie & Venom becoming one. Make him a villain first & bring Spiderman in for sequels then he can transition into an antihero to stick around in the MCU. I feel like they completely wasted Tom Hardy.
They wasted everything. Brock, the symbiote, transitioning from Parker to Brock, Eddie's total acceptance of power and hate, Carnage, even the other symbiote characters whose names I don't even know. All wasted. To be fair, this is the second time somebody fÚck3d up Venom. Apparently it's harder than we think.
The other ones suck too so I’m not surprised.
I hate that Stan Lee's last live action cameo was the first pile of Venom spunk.
@@Dafuq-is-going-onhe still had cameos in Captain Marvel and Endgame, both 2019
@@Dafuq-is-going-on It wasn't his last one lmao
Venom 2 is the worst thing I've ever seen in a Cenima
That was my Joker 2 moment
I'm not even joking
All of them, even morbius and Madame web.
Why is Sony SO determined to only make the most mid, superhero slop imaginable? No one cares about this shit. It only exists for critics and fans to roast, and for parents to drag their bored children to. Why are these STILL being made? 😭
The only reason I can think of is that Sony is only making their sloppy films just to hold onto their Spider-Man film rights as long as possible, regardless of their qualities. Coz if they don't, those rights will be reverted back to Marvel
Mid? Bad is what you mean
Because you liked the first two films that immediately butchered the character by making venom a buddy cop and Eddy autistic!
They still make a profit, even a thin margin is still enough.
@@DANCERcow The first one was alright, a decent B-movie. The problem is that they don't aim for anything above the bare-minimum because they have no need to.
The reason no one else is around is actually very believable. Area 51 is in the middle of nowhere with no motels or even reliable source of restrooms or water nearby. If a large crowd tried to show up kind of like the whole invade area 51 post, they'd be pretty screwed.
I watched this movie, just last friday, but I'm having a hard time recalling much from it.
There were only like 7 actors and the symbiote story went nowhere.
LITERALLY, Nothing meant anything and things just happened. Closest thing we got to a narrative was with Eddie and even that's debatable lmao
Memories was uncontested the funniest needledrop in the history of cinema (unintentionally). My entire theater was cackling
Can't help but hear "special horses" instead of "special forces"
It feels like a biblically cruel punishment that we have 3 whole Venom movies and all of them are the most sanitized unfunny major studio garbage.
I haven’t trusted Sony since TASM2 🤷🏾♂️
Let me fix that for you, Spiderman 2
@@jokarpinski22 Correct.
@@jokarpinski22 Yeah but that was before TASM
@@Arturo-Peredo Yeah, exactly.
@@jokarpinski22 Spiderman 2 was their alltime peak.
The first film was aggressively mid, the second film was not good, and the third film being bad is not surprising.
I haven't seen any of the Venom movies because I've relied on your reviews.
The fact that you're struggling to figure out what the plot is to a 3rd movie shows why I haven't wasted my time.
Best thing about this movie is the Method Man verse at the very end of the credits. The song wasn't out for like another week or so, and I went back to theaters for the tail end of a Venom 3 screening just so I could hear it again!!!
I enjoyed the movie overall, I just regret they did a few things, like they clearly plan on doing more symbiote films, the other symbiotes in the movie were suddenly naturally good guys, and somehow the codec is really rare, but really easy accidentally.
I liked them general, I like how he seems like he should be the stereotypical General Ross type character, but was actually a good guy following orders, and sacrifices himself.
Hated that they put Null because it went no where, and I don't see a spin off from this given it's performance.
Had some good laughs in this, genuine laugh out loud moments for me.
But also, I didn't like that this film makes ultimately makes the whole trilogy make no sense.
I don't regret seeing it, I enjoyed myself, I just wish they'd had a better story to tell across the trilogy and in this film.
Oh yeah, and the Six? Huh? I missed something there. What? Huh? There was clearly a better idea there that they abandoned and forgot to cut in editing.
Knull is Darkseid and The Six is Venom's Goo-stice League. Also Maso's additional explanation from the comics would've helped the story if the movie knew how to have a plot
Silver lining is Sony surely has to continue working with the MCU going forward
Is that really a silver lining though like if this was you know pre end game yah sure silver lining but now god its mediocre MCU with mediocre Venom what a great time
@@addex1236 mediocre MCU is still entertaining. Marvels and Quantumania definitely had issues but I still had fun watching em. Outside of the first Venom or a moment here and there in its sequels SPUMC has been void of anything fun or entertaining.
@@TiVo67 Oh good, I was worried that [NEXT PRODUCT] would be delayed!
Maybe we should just speak with our wallets
And not give these Mid and shxt movies anymore
Money
Look at DC no one supported thier crap. And they gave us "The Batman" something actually decent
6:50 You not understanding Venom took me by surprise. It made me realize that your theaters don't show subtitles. That must suck for loud action movies
Majority of cinemas and theatres don't show subtitles unless it's for foreign films or for accessibility and is then usually for specific times.
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog That sounds awful. I don't think I'd be able to understand anybody with the chewing of food echoing through my own skull, my friends asking me questions about the movie and just movie background sounds in general.
@@Adonis.D.Princeall that noise isn't normal... Probably why they put subtitles. The people who go to your cinema are assholes.
No way, it’s not like the other two were really bad.
The first one was critically mid. A 6/10 by design. Marvel has enough good ideas and talent to make half a good movie then limp the rest of the way. And that earns them a profit.
@@Shoxic666the first one sucked
@@Shoxic666yeah the first one was horrible its wasnt fun bad it wad boring bad
@@headshot217Venom 2 was horrendous
I literally got pissed off after for spending my money on that crap
@@headshot217the first one is one of my fav movies ever lol
Guess it’s not for everyone but as a big venom fan I loved it
So.... The villain is super evil and put in a weird interdimensional space prison. And needs a Codex that's inside the main character.
So ... The main plot point/maguffin of Man of Steel.
To be fair the other 2 are awfull
1 isn't awful, just meh.
@@Shoxic666 nah it's trash
The first one is ok by itself, but in relation to venom being “created” by conflict with Spider-Man and having no Spider-Man and no hatred towards him= not “venom” just black goo guy trilogy.
He doesn’t even have the venom logo
The first one was really different, and not what you'd expect. I'm a venom comic reader so i kinda was "Huh. you kow what. Fine. We've been weirder. Let's see where it goes" and it was okay. Different.
The second was taking a really loved idea, cutting bits off it, and rrunning the joke into the ground for the sake of keeping it still a buddy cop. Which was starting to wear thin.
The third is just frustraiting, because AGAIN. It keeps cutting parts off of hat make the idea really cool in the comics, and trying to make it a comedy. And the part they keep cutting off every time is SPIDERMAN. You can't write Venom's origin without Spiderman being involved, but more importantingly is that you can't keep trying to tell Major symbiote stories without him. He's important for things like motivation. The whole thing with Knull is he's basically Symbiote Death who got mad about his job. He's a really cool idea, and sets up a lot of cool lore. If you're just gonna turn him into this? why bother! You have already hacked the basic idea of Venom to bits to make this work, why bother even using him. Make it something else.
I thought about pirating this movie last night, then decided it looked so bad that I wouldn't even pirate it.
Same but Venom 2 was so bad I thought I need a bit of self respect
Even through illegal means
I still need to respect myself
Venom one was a delightfull what ever with almost perfect Venom design (-the white spider emblem) and promise of Garnage at the end and line "there will be Garnage" and that meen he just is in the sequel but dont do much .
Venom two: Garnage tryes to get married thats about it (the prison escape is the only Garnage is a monster scene all else is just talk😏)
Venom 3: I havent seen it...
I love movies and collect movies. The second Venom movie, I fell asleep 3 times on 3 different occasions, never finishing it. This has never happened with any other movie.
Here's my obvious cold take. The first movie did well because everyone assumed that Venom would eventually have be in a movie with Spider-Man. IMO the general public has given up on Venom because they know that he will never meet Spider-Man. Sony is a bunch of idiots and deserve their failure.
As well as being an incredibly lazy writing device, the multiverse has reduced the already light on plot Marvel movies to complete meaninglessness. The hero died heroically in the last movie? Oh, that was another universe, he's back now. The stakes have never been lower.
Time travel already did that. Multiverse doesn't make it any worse.
This is the first Marvel movie I’m missing in a while. I enjoyed Hardy’s performance in the first one but that’s about as far as my like for the taste of these movies go.
The reason no one ever does actual comic-accurate Venom origin is becuse it starts in Secret Wars, the original big crossover with dozens of characters. You got X-Men, Avengers, three of the Fantastic Four, Dr. Doom, even Galactus and the symbiote being there is almost like a "oh, okay" moment. No one's gonna get this many high-caliber characters just for Venom origin story. 90's cartoon was the first to adapt Venom, so they had John Jameson (you know, J.J.J.'s son) unknowingly bring it to Earth and then it jumps onto Spider-Man.
Sony is dumb.
I mean yeah even North Korea proved that.
Saw it last night. Skipped Morbius and Madame Web but had a little hope for this one. Yeah…that was the last time I trust Sony with any comic book IP. I’m done.
31:45 I'm not vouching for the movie. But in the first movie, Riot wanted to go back to their home planet to get the other symbiotes and bring them to Earth. Making Earth the new home world.
Our cinema is pretty much brand new and the sound was still shit
Dang.
The entire movie felt like the Tom Cruise trailer for The Mummy that released without audio
I'm gonna be 100 percent here, when I saw the movie in the US, he did not say "the six" he said something else, like "project somethingmis" i think they may have changed the line.
Empyrean Project
He says both in the same scene
Don't know about the movie, but this is some facts from the comic series "Separation Anxiety" which the movie is SUPPOSED to be based off of.
The Life Foundation (made Green Goblin serum) made those Symbiotes: Scream, Riot, Phage, Agony, & Lasher.
The Electric looking Symbiote is Scream. Lightbright is the host & has a "healthy" bond so survives. Lightbright has Photosensitive powers, so they aren't weak to heat or intense light.
Eddy Brock's Symbiote wants to go back to it's home planet to conqueror it.
10:25 I was disappointed that there were no references to mxpx's 2005 single Wrecking Hotel Rooms, considering all the obscure 2000's pop punk references the podcast provided us so far.
Maybe you should move to Bremerton
The lasting impact of this entire franchise will be a 10 minute UA-cam compilation of Eddie and venom just dicking around. That is the only thing this franchise will be remembered for.
1st venom, okay movie, could be better, lets see what they do in the sequel
2nd venom, still the same shit
3rd venom, aint falling for it again
I wonder who thought it was a good idea to spunk 120m on a sequel to two dreadful movies few people saw and even fewer people care about.
If you have their number let me know as I'm sure I can come up with some equally bad ideas they can spend money on.
Ahh sorry to tell you that they don't want YOUR bad ideas, because your mommy and daddy aren't "somebodies" with tons of money :(
Venom bs'd it and somehow people thought it was good. Lol
sony just doesn't know the IP they have.
i'm not a fan of monopolies (Disney), but all things Spidey should be bought back and stay under the Marvel umbrella.
It could be kind of cool if, in the next Spider-Man movie, they feature Venom, but it's actually Mac Gargan.
I saw a bunch of reviews saying Last Dance was terrible. I didn't watch any of them and decided to see it on the theater's discount day anyway. I actually liked the movie more than I expected to. I definitely liked it more than second one. Is it a great movie? No. Could I nitpick it to hell? Yes, but I kinda don't wanna. As strange as it is to say, it feels like the movie actually has heart. A whole hell of a lot more than that Borderlands movie anyway.
One thing does stick in my craw though. Didn't the first Venom movie establish that symbiote compatibility was super rare and practically lethal if you weren't? This movie basically ignores that entirely.
C’mon now…the dance scene alone between Venom and Mrs Chen is well worth the UA-cam search for the clip.
This is what happens when your trilogy is literally the same 3 movies with no progression
A R-rated movie about Venom killing and eating the Sinister Six probably would've been more successful at the box office.
*They have Tom hardy as Eddie and they can't make a ok movie. Sony need to sell the Spiderman to some one new.*
It's so funny people for some reason thought this would be a big multiverse movie that would connect to Spider-man or whatever. I'll be so happy whey this dumb comedy version of Eddie Brock gets dropped so they can potentially do a good one. Tom Hardy sucks.
Maybe because in the last movie he was literally licking the screen when Spider-Man was on the TV? And they had him go through universes in the beginning... So silly for people to actually believe that?
@@PowuhToSeven Yes, it was silly. On the same level as people thinking Morbius would actually have anything important happening in it. An if you like these Venom movies, you're just a person with bad taste.
Eh, they're not oscar bait but I've liked them enough. Though a lot of that is looking through rose tinted glasses as a 90's teenager who loved Venom. At least they've all seemed like stupid fun with no BS in them, that is besides the BS that's the writing. I just wonder how they'll butcher Knull now or introduce Dylan or something. They sure as shit ain't doing Absolute Carnage lol. Maybe King in Black
When he said I don’t remember how he got the symbiote, I thought Yeah neither do I! Haha
Listening to James just rip into Venom 3 for 30 minutes and then act like Thor 4 wasn’t the worst Thor movie was very funny
Venom k!lled all those people on that plane 😢
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That was definitely implied and never followed up on.
I never saw a single add and didn’t know this was a thing until seeing this video
I'm guessing their going to use Knull as the villain for the Morbius, Vulture, (Kraven?) team up movie but I don't think Sony can manage it.
No, Juno Tempes Symbiote is purple aka Agony, the vial the cockroach approaches in the vial from the Bar.
I’ve trained my brain to accept these movies, they’re like a guilty pleasure. Seeing Eddie Brock as a bumbling, smelly loser with some goo up his ass is a breath of fresh air in CBMs
But it’s not interesting. Black Widow wasn’t exactly Winter Soldier but I cared waaaaaay more about the characters in that film. I was more compelled seeing Hawkeye reacting to “Thanos was right” at the urinal than anything in these Venom films.,
Except the movies arent fun bad they are boring
So your comments toward the end regarding Venom wanting to go home, those are valid, because Knull is a VERY NEW character. He was literally being created and written into the lore in 2018 as the first Venom movie was being made. Knull got popular over the last few years, but i guess due to the fact that hes more directly connected with Venom lore, Sony has first dibs live action Knull? Or maybe Marvel just let them use him cause they have no plans for Knull in the MCU for now.
Knull will be in the 4th Spider-man though
@@Lusk1993 that is nowhere near confirmed. Sony is off their rocker if they think they can shoehorn their cosmic space villain into an MCU spiderman movie. Knull ain't happening yet
I've got to say mates, I completely lost you guys when you were recapping the plot. Absolutely no idea what either of you said during that. That 3 frame horse is amazing though.
During the last act a soldier said "Thompson is going down!" and not long after we saw a soldier who survive after their legs were eaten by Knull's monster, so I'm hoping for an Agent Venom spinoff if they're not renewing their contract with Tom Hardy
Dan Murrell had an interesting hypothesis that this movie might have been impacted by the previous writer's strike. That they rushed before the onset of the strike and were disjointed after it/during production. I'll watch it so I can't weigh in, but between what he was describing and Weekly Planet's critique it sure seems like a possibility.
as a fan of venom growing up, no matter what it is I've always enjoyed it, sure there is some plot holes in the trilogy but that's the same with every movie, trilogy or saga. being able to watch or reading a venom based story is a breath of fresh air because honestly spiderman is over hyped and i feel like it wouldn't be a venom movie and would just turn into another spiderman movie featuring venom and Eddie and to be honest oh well if he doesn't have the spider logo not like the movies are going to be good or bad based on the logo or not. even Disney has had multiple fails, not every movie is going to be up to peoples standards. just about having faith and giving things a try because imaging how boring and basic the world would be if the same things just happened over and over again.
I don't know why exactly, but I'm really partial to these Venom movies. Like, they're not good on a technical level, but Hardy's performance makes them a lot of fun to watch.
I think this was the best (official) DC/Marvel movie of the year, but that said the competition isn't very strong considering Madame Web, Deadpool & Wolverine and Joker 2 are just terrible and Kraven, well, I can't see that being better than Venom 3..
The People's Joker is brilliant, but I don't count that since WB/DC doesn't have anything to do with it.
sometime during the bit where they talk about the plot in detail, I just suddenly realised I'd zoned out staring at the dust-farting horse for five minutes.
It's crazy how most of these studio execs, movie directors and actors weren't even comic book fans when they were young (they were probably the "cool" rich kids who called comic book fans NERDS and made fun of them)
Yet some how they are the ones getting to turn comic book stories into movies and they are phucking them up for everyone
💯🎯 just a bunch of rich idiot nepo-babies with bad taste trying to squeeze as much money out of the general consumers as possible. Zero respect for superheroes and comic books, or the people that enjoy them.
I've not been watching a lot of youtube lately but uh.. did you guys do something to your editor or something?
think Knull wants the same thing as the Elves from Thor 2, if only they'd met on a facebook shared interest group ;p
I watched all 3 movies for the first time in one day, and I didn’t think they were masterclasses of cinema or anything but I enjoyed all three of them. I went in without expecting it to be crazy good and it wasn’t, but it’s still enjoyable
You're saying we got three of these movies and no one ever put Tom Hardy in leather symbiote pants? What is Sony doing?
Saw it. It wasn’t a bad ending for the trilogy. They wanted to do 3 they did three the knull post credit was a hint for Spiderman 4. Where you get see Spiderman vs a different venom they introduce there.
I watched this last night here on youtube, and all i could think was "...did hollywood...did they...forget how to make movies??"
Don't think I've heard anyone enunciate "O-S-H-A" before haha
O-sha
Be aware everyone, I didn't watch the movie yet.
I have yet to see the 2nd.
And?
Please let us know when you do, ok?
I’m watching this video without any intention of ever watching the movie in question for several reasons.
1. Previous movie sucked and the one before that was okayish at best
2. Venom didn’t do shit during no way home and there was no setup for this character to be involved with Spider-Man at all, and seriously he’s, in my opinion, MORE tied to Spider-Man than the Joker or Lex Luthor are to Batman and Superman.
His whole existence revolves so heavily around Spider-Man that I wasn’t even sure about seeing the first movie cause the concept of a Spider-Man less venom movie seems kinda silly and like it won’t work well.
A solo Joker movie can (and did) work cause Batman doesn’t need to be present for that character to work. It works better with Batman around, but he doesn’t need to be there as much as Spider-Man needs to be there for venom.
A Lex Luthor movie would work also. I’d watch a movie about him doing shit like killing off his parents after setting up a life insurance policy on them, then using said money to inevitably own more than half of metropolis and cause the city’s economy to skyrocket purely to line his pockets and gain more power and just showing off all the shady under handed things he’s getting involved in and his obsession with being “the übermensch” (the Superman, someone who is superior to everyone else in every way) and everything he does to become that. Cause he’s actually interesting without Superman being present.
Lex with no Superman present is Paul Allen. He’s got the best card, gets a reservation at all the best places, has the nicest clothes, and makes people like Patrick Bateman extra jealous. Except he owns half the richest city in the world and thinks he’s the man.
Then when someone like Superman shows up his reaction is similar to Patrick Bateman’s reaction to Paul Allen’s card. He’s not happy. He is supposed to be the super man. Smarter, better looking, richer, more respected, in peak physical fitness, etc etc.. and Superman flys in and ruins any thought Lex ever had of being the Superman.
You don’t need Superman for it to be an interesting story, but it helps if he’s at the least there near the end of the story.
Venom though… he’s soooo revolves around spider-man that it kinda just doesn’t work as well.
It wasn’t the worst movie ever, but it strayed from the marvel/sony program where they tease something important for the future, there was no spiderman, no avengers, and no other characters. Knull is gonna have to fight spiderman at some point, but they could’ve teased that without this movie. Spider-Man is gonna have to get the black suit for secret wars, but the venom goo left behind in this movie didn’t get another appearance showing it would go to Peter. Just let down. There should’ve been more character development
Yet another movie I did not know was out already and have heard nothing about until these boys brought it up