Are you guys going to make a video going into more detail about the results of the blind smartphone camera test? I think i can speak for everyone that we definitely like seeing the data...
@@mathewboyd903 Dang, that sucks. There's still a whole lot that has changed under the hood, and the iPhone winning the night mode was definetly a radical enough change to make a video about IMO.
Usually in those big lawsuits where the companies pay out to a big group of people it’s like a sign up and the higher up you are in the lawsuit the bigger percent you’ll get. I always sign up for these big suits and usually will get a check for anywhere from $3.46 to $9 years later lol
Love the pod! I wanted to comment- I’ve had a spontaneous pneumothorax (collapsed lung) that randomly happened a few years ago. So it’s important to keep an eye on my blood oxygen level to make sure that it’s at normal levels. I realize that most people don’t need to worry about that issue but I wanted to post it because I know that there are others like me.
Dod they say the sensors are wrong? The Apple watch is just as accurate as Polar H10, which is the standard for Heart Rate. Now the SpO2 is a different story. Oh, Dr Mike is not an expert on medical tech.
you guys should do a revisiting episode where you look back at stuff you've discussed because a lot of topics end with "we'll have to see" and don't get revisited. like in the objective phone tier list episode you guys talk about tiktoks implementation of payed packaged content and we now see how content creators utilize it.
The blood oxygen sensor is not used only for viewing the oxygen level, but also in other algorithms, like sleeping and workouts. So it is as important as the heartrate sensor.
Trivia question: on the podcast a few months ago Marques said Pixel Fold was best foldable so far and he said if it wins the award we should comment “I already knew about this because I watched the podcast 6 months ago” and Andrew said “and also comment _____”; what was it? (I was so ready to represent team waveform but then the pixel fold didn’t win 💔)
wait ! he got his iPhone 12 glass repaired ? isn't that like $350 ! I think you could get a new refurbished iPhone 12 for that price now. But seriously, iPhone 12's are great. They've held their value like a champ. CLASSICS !
Great coverage on the Google law suite. Have a few points here though, & would love to hear about each of your views in the future… 1) with all the impacts of this case on Google, companies like Samsung will eventually roll out features like 20% commission on their play store. How do you see Google reacting to that market behavior 2) you are discounting what this has opened up. Now, countries like India are prioritising Indian developers & content. Companies like Paytm & PhonePe are building app stores in collaboration with the startup community to prioritise Indian products & services, even in categories like social media. The point here being, apart from growing the community, this would also ensure a fair share of Indian money comes back to the community, than seeing a big chunk go to an international tech giant, which may be tricky to cover via direct taxes. Your views?
I’m so sad the 15 pro max only ships early spring. I always get the new iPhone every year so it’s not worth spending $159 to use it for half a year. I’ll have to wait for the 16 pro (if it doesn’t take too long to launch once we get there)
Some cool MKBHF tech accessories and gadgets we can use on the daily would be great for you core subscribers, specialty products for your speciality viewers
What if they changed the blood oxygen sensor to just sense how much air quality that’s around like if you were in a small space. Not the blood oxygen that’s in the body. That’s different enough use case for the hardware right ?
Do you think that pixel sensor thing has to do with potentially not hiring professional photographers to sort of, tell them how to tweak their algorithms
Wireless charging - watch the Fully Charged episode where they had wireless charging for taxis and it’s very efficient and they tested thru an inch on ice sat on top. Really easy and rapid charging too, not 7/11kw rate.
Tesla can solve the alignment to get best wireless charging by adopting the current vacuum robot where it went back to the exact charging port everytime…so some software to auto drive the car towards the ideal wireless charging spot after the driver stops at the dedicated parking point.
i just bought my ultra 2, 2 weeks ago .havnt had an apple watch since the watch 4. im 72 yrs old but still a watch and cellphone junckie. now this . but i still like my watch.
Surely best small phone has to be s23? The Zenphone 10 has less width but the s23 has less height, thickness and weight. S23 screen size is bigger as it has thinner bezels.
no we use that blood oxygen all the time its helped me go to the hospital when my level was wrong paired with other data from my apple watch and iphone .....
I have a famuly member with health issues that bought a Series 8 or 9 apple watch specifically because the blood oxygen monitoring, its not 100% but it's honestly really good for what it is, and has hrlp them greatly with monitoring their condition. If apple just disabled that feature, it defeats a large reason why they bought the watch. Should apple disable the feature, they need to either give people the option to get a refund, or some sort of credit.
You are underestimating the importance of the blood oxygen sensor because you have no personal use for it. However, as someone who had lung clots a few years ago, it’s one of the reasons I bought and wear an Apple Watch today as I have to monitor my oxygen levels constantly. It’s too inconvenient to carry a monitor in my pocket. I know at least three other people with health related issues who use that feature on the watch heavily. If Apple were to discontinue the feature after I purposely bought the watch for it, I would expect a refund from my watch and I would switch to something else that offers it.
The Apple Watch was never FDA approved as a pulse oximeter. If you have a medical reason to know an accurate measure of your blood o2 levels, why risk it on a non-medical device for convenience’ sake?
@@glittery_ponies2035 it’s not about competing with a medical instrument. Sometimes all you need is to know if your levels are going up or down before going to whatever meter you may have. Having it on the watch helps prevent you from having to carry around a meter in your pocket all the time. it doesn’t replace a medical meter, but it does add convenience and yes again, some people buy the watch for that reason.
Every week clear my schedule for MKBHD videos, not just for the spicy takes and fire camera comparisons, but because my 2015 self who discovered a dude filming phones in his room wouldn't believe I'm now glued to a tech king's pronouncements.
A little take on the Apple Watch, I'm a retail employee for a wireless company. We were told we could only sell what we already had in stock but in the event of the sales being suspended, no more Apple Watches Series 9 and Ultra 2 were going to be sent. So we can only sell Watch SE
When your computer is idle, or when you're only doing light work, you can run the software "folding home" in the background, which uses the computer's CPU and Graphics Card to help scientists calculate complex data sets used for medical research aiming to cure diseases like cancer.
Shout out and congrats to Andrew. I honestly missed his viewpoints while he was on leave. Owning up to something as small as dismissing the Apple suit is refreshing in the podcast world.
The Apple Watch spo2 sensor is actually very accurate, when I was sat in the back of an ambulance the Apple Watch matched the ambulance sensor on the finger 100% and every fluctuation was also picked up.
Throughout the whole Google lawsuit thing, all I could think of was “then why doesn’t Apple have to open its iOS to allow side loading?” Frankly it’s so anti-competitive in this time and age
i'm not the tech expert, or a lawyer, or anything, but... Apple makes their own hardware and software, so it's their proprietary product/platform as a whole. it was like that since forewer. people who buy apple products know what they sign for. and developers never developed apps to sell outside of appstore. so they can do whatever... google , on the other hand, is not. that's the first reason. second reason is that android kinda always was and kinda "advertised" itself as an "open" platform... but, in fact, in recent years especially, it's not so anymore. when i try to install something that is not an google store from apk file i get an error. that's defeat the whole purpose of an open system. so if a developer developes an app for android, and it's simply aren't compatible to your phone because it's not on play market - it's gating.
I think it's because as closed as apple is, they seem to be playing fair. Google was incentivising apps to come into the play store at a discounted price while Apple never had such a program
@@obsydian806so you are saying Google was competing with apps while apple just don't have to complete... donno man, some sounds hella anti-competitive
@@davixpixie243 Not exactly what I was saying. Google wasn't competing as much as they were making an uneven playing field. Apple takes a 30% cut, period. This allows big apps and small apps to pay the same "apple tax" and reach the same demographics. Google on the other hand claims to have a 30% cut across the board but unfairly discounts some applications. That isn't exactly encouraging competition since some applications have an implicit advantage. Hence why Google lost their lawsuit and Apple didn't
I hated 'baby on board' bumper stickers too but then i learned it was originally intended for first responders to know to look for a small human in your mangled car instead of just the folks in the front seats. Whether that's why everyone uses those stickers is another thing but I've come around to giving a little grace for these sticker bearers.
That's a super fair point I'd never thought of! Reminds me of the sticker they gave us to put on our bedroom windows so if your house caught on fire a fireman would know there was a child somewhere
I believe that those 3 guys are perfect combo for TECH PODCAST. David has a curiosity of knowing fundamentals (basics) of any technology. Andrew, although sometimes wrong, is pretty good at speculating things in tech world. Marques has a lot of experience on new cutting edge technology and also some old versions of them so that he can compare the upgrades.
Also Apple can’t just remove a feature from a product that’s this new as then customers would have a right to refund it as they loose something they paid for. Not a feature i personally care about much but for sure just removing it off a brand new device via software update would be crazy.
@@timfngwena ohh really. Legit didn’t know that. That being said this is a health item and this product is only sales wise 2 months old so I’m sure customers wouldn’t like it to simply disappear few months after buying it!
blood oxygen is very important in sleep tracking, it can tell you if you have sleep apnea or not, not having the sensor is a serious downgrade if they are forced to remove it from the next applewatch
@@nishantrajani7372 Change the algorithm in the current one to keep sales going / making it suck, then release a new one that works much better next gen... That is what they did with noise canceling in the air pod pro's
It'd be sick to see a whole podcast episode shot on phones. I'd imagine you've got enough phones to do the multi-camera setup. I think audio would be rough haha
Audio would be the easy part just usb digital mics there are options and they sound fine. The issue would be heat. Multiple phones running good mic’s and recording in 4K continuously..even an iPhone 15 pro would overheat trying that past 30-35minutes, even at 1080p
I work in biopharma at the small scale/clinical level. Trust me it’s slow. It takes at a minimum 10 years to maybe bring a new drug to market and that’s if it passes clinical trials. Plus you need to pay a $500M filing fee just for the FDA to begin their revision process.
Correction, on Samsung phones both of them are on the home screen on setup. As far as I'm aware it just used to be the galaxy store, I think only having the Play store might be a requirement for everyone but Samsung because they're the special one.
It may not be medically accurate but the oxygen sensor is good for people with COPD to casually keep an eye on trends and I hope Apple does not see it as a throw away feature, like these guys suggested. I think it is important not only to them but athletes and rock climbers among other people for use. It will not replace a medically accurate fingertip sensor when one needs very accurate measurements but is indispensable for understanding trends and tracking generally well being so Apple, if you are listening, please do not listen to these guys. You must do whatever it takes to keep the oxygen sensor
I was so shocked finding out Andrew was a dad. I’ve spent *YEARS* thinking this man was gay. And no, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Tho just goes to show how one shouldn’t stereotype.
I’d like to see Andrew be more confident with his questions! A couple times he thought he was gonna ask a dumb question but i thought all of them were interesting and what i was thinking too
This google lawsuit seems reasonable, though I wonder how it will affect security. My bigger question is, isn't Apple even more anticompetative in terms of sideloading and app store pricing?
Probably Apple is lobbying hard by claiming that the consequences are not implementable on their system and "security issues"™. As they just outright disallow anything not Apple instead of having deals its a different enough situation?
Yes they are, but because the app store is only on apple phones they don't consider it as a platform. Which means it won't be judged like the g app was judged.
Kudos to Andrew for being so respectful of his coworkers allowing them to talk. Also, I use the Ghost case from Dbrand for magsafe, it's amazing (I don't like stickers on my phones).
I love seeing Ellis start talking and realize if he starts ranting he won’t stop but I wanna hear his rants so bad. Extra Ellis Episode… ALLITERATION. (Read that like Josh yelling spherical 😂)
As an anemic person, the blood oxygen sensor on fitbit is what helped clue my doctor into ordering me an iron infusion. I was exhausted and barely functional for the 2 months leading up to the infusion. Most people may not benefit from the health features, but for people with known conditions, it can help a lot.
You guys mentioned that you’re not sure why the temp sensor feature exists. From what I’ve read that actually has been revolutionary feature for a lot of women when it comes to cycle tracking especially since the Natural Cycles app for example got FDA (and European) approval recently to integrate with it. Meaning it can now act as an approved method of contraception and fertility tracking as well.
If Apple did the software method they’d likely create a different sku exclusively in software and watchOS just sends a version of watchOS without the blood oxygen app to users, sort of like how the iPhone XS Max has a device sku exclusively for china(fun fact about this sku: iOS 16.4 can be downgraded on this sku but not the global sku). They have no reason to remove it from existing customers and that could lead to legal problems if they removed an advertised feature even if people didn’t use it, similar to the Other OS feature on the PS3 which the class action won.
Ok my theory for the Pixel 8 pro temperature sensor is that they at first intended to add a LiDar sensor but something happened, either they couldn't find a supplier or they ran into patent issues or maybe they just couldn't find a way to integrate it into Google Apps but they already had the Pixel 8 pro housings made with the hole on them and just had to find something to fill it with which could explain why the thermometer app seems like they made it during a lunch break.
To play the devils (googles) advocate, they do provide their proprietary operating system, so I think expecting to have their services used as a form of payment makes sense (also why the crack down on the store while the play services will keep existing). Now that they wont be allowed to do that, theyll likely have to find another way to profit off of developing Android. If any company is not okay with having to pay the price, they can use the AOSP and wont have to ask for permission to load their store.
It did feel a little hard when the same rules don't apply at all to other store fronts like for apple.... I mean, android is 100% open source(aosp). Any OEM can do it without the play store. I don't like google too much but apple is at like 88% of young users in the US and they get to keep their monopoly intact?
43:20 I was on the blue sky waitlist from day 1 but they were busy giving invite codes to influencers and their friends,so when I finally got the invite like a couple of weeks ago, I had soured on the whole idea and the username I wanted was taken.
Federating sounds absolutely horrible. I don't want the world idiots coming into all one place and being posted every where. Each app, each social media sphere has its own vibe and would ruin it.
You already have a very capable robot... a car. Tesla will have the car position itself over the charging pad then either the car will lower or the pad will most likely raise itself for that optimal wireless charging. The Roomba has been self charging for over a decade and this method is perfect. If a car can parallel-park itself then it can pull up forward to a charging port, exposing contact pads from the "bumper" using IR sensors to guide itself in like the Roomba. Think about it... since the 60's we have been pumping combustible liquid through a rod at 35,000 ft while traveling at 375 mph.
man I still remember when in August I putted a reminder for every day of December to comment on the 2023 awards that the Google fold won best foldable during waveform in August and it did not win 😭
Next time y'all do the blind camera test you should ask for the participant's daily driver phone. I wonder if the phone camera that they are used to adds any bias.
Installer rights to preloaded apps If you opened up the pre-installed Samsung Appstore app for the first time, you would be directed to the settings to allow it to install apps before it could actually do that. So they are just saying when you get the phone, Samsung will be able to have the Samsung Appstore on your device with that setting already toggled on.
What if Apple spends 2 billion to fix this issue? Won't touch apple 🍎. Apple will collect all these costs in next iPhone series from their zombie costumers. I am well sure all money they lose will get top up with iPhone 16 series prices. Regardless of iPhone prices Apples zombie costumers will line up and empty their credit card in the store 😅😅😅 wait and see iPhone 16 prices 😅😅 and if you own any of those watch if Apple stop letting you use that sensor then you can also sue Apple because you have paid for that future.
David saying "attourney's general" correctly made me chuckle. He knows his stuff
Are you guys going to make a video going into more detail about the results of the blind smartphone camera test? I think i can speak for everyone that we definitely like seeing the data...
also marques is very good at explaining and analyzing data
Amen
I second this comment
1:06:20
@@mathewboyd903 Dang, that sucks. There's still a whole lot that has changed under the hood, and the iPhone winning the night mode was definetly a radical enough change to make a video about IMO.
"y'all don't wanna hear me, y'all just wanna dance." Marques was right, 21 years later 🤯
Usually in those big lawsuits where the companies pay out to a big group of people it’s like a sign up and the higher up you are in the lawsuit the bigger percent you’ll get. I always sign up for these big suits and usually will get a check for anywhere from $3.46 to $9 years later lol
Yep! Same. Starkist Tuna. Red Bull. Pine Sol. Lot of those lawsuits I’ll sign up for and get a check the next year lol.
Love the pod! I wanted to comment- I’ve had a spontaneous pneumothorax (collapsed lung) that randomly happened a few years ago. So it’s important to keep an eye on my blood oxygen level to make sure that it’s at normal levels. I realize that most people don’t need to worry about that issue but I wanted to post it because I know that there are others like me.
Dod they say the sensors are wrong? The Apple watch is just as accurate as Polar H10, which is the standard for Heart Rate. Now the SpO2 is a different story. Oh, Dr Mike is not an expert on medical tech.
Am I crazy or is the shot at 1:22:38 an iPhone and not a Pixel?
you guys should do a revisiting episode where you look back at stuff you've discussed because a lot of topics end with "we'll have to see" and don't get revisited. like in the objective phone tier list episode you guys talk about tiktoks implementation of payed packaged content and we now see how content creators utilize it.
F for Adam, miss you
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!! 👑🇯🇲🔥💥🌟⭐💯💎
The blood oxygen sensor is not used only for viewing the oxygen level, but also in other algorithms, like sleeping and workouts. So it is as important as the heartrate sensor.
3am in Australia right now, u blokes always give me something to think about on the late nights at work :))
Hey All Happy New Year.Have not been on in a while but glad I'm catching up Now.Thanks so much for sharing. ✌️
Y’all. “Don’t thread on me” was right there.
I still say Oppo Find X6 Pro should have won the Best Design Award. That phone is _stunning._
Could you share the overall camera winner with a chart? Last year it was the Pixel 6a, and the chart was helpful seeing where all the phones landed.
Trivia question: on the podcast a few months ago Marques said Pixel Fold was best foldable so far and he said if it wins the award we should comment “I already knew about this because I watched the podcast 6 months ago” and Andrew said “and also comment _____”; what was it?
(I was so ready to represent team waveform but then the pixel fold didn’t win 💔)
They said "Comment I already knew about this in August, also: Microfiber" 🙌
@@ariellestroman7726 *[trivia correct sound]*
bonus point for knowing the month too, even though marques was 2 months off on that mental math 😂
@@jmunt Bahaha, I actually put a reminder in my phone to make a comment, but you beat me to it 😎
@@ariellestroman7726we are the truest fans 🫡
I have been waiting for the blind phone camera award and feel so disappointed you guys didn't make a video
Right in time for Christmas, nobody's getting Apple watches 😂
Not true, imports ban but existing stock can still be sold
@@readabookdummyyeah
@@readabookdummy Yeah, but what happens when their existing supply runs out? Barely anyone is getting Apple watches this Christmas...
wait ! he got his iPhone 12 glass repaired ? isn't that like $350 ! I think you could get a new refurbished iPhone 12 for that price now.
But seriously, iPhone 12's are great. They've held their value like a champ. CLASSICS !
Great coverage on the Google law suite. Have a few points here though, & would love to hear about each of your views in the future…
1) with all the impacts of this case on Google, companies like Samsung will eventually roll out features like 20% commission on their play store. How do you see Google reacting to that market behavior
2) you are discounting what this has opened up. Now, countries like India are prioritising Indian developers & content. Companies like Paytm & PhonePe are building app stores in collaboration with the startup community to prioritise Indian products & services, even in categories like social media. The point here being, apart from growing the community, this would also ensure a fair share of Indian money comes back to the community, than seeing a big chunk go to an international tech giant, which may be tricky to cover via direct taxes. Your views?
"It's all part of their avant-garde business philosophy: 'The Art of the Trillion-Dollar Oops.'"
Merry Christmas🎅 🎄EveryOne
Knew this was coming since earlier this year. Talked to one of the employees of the company and they spilled all the tea 🍵.
Why no word about 41% of fediverse instances blocking threads
I’m so sad the 15 pro max only ships early spring. I always get the new iPhone every year so it’s not worth spending $159 to use it for half a year. I’ll have to wait for the 16 pro (if it doesn’t take too long to launch once we get there)
Not me looking at the apple store online, and they’re still advertising it 🙈
The blood oxygen sensor is pretty close to accurate. I measure it against our pulse ox at work all the time. It's usually if ever off by 1 number.
Wireless charging through induction has made a huge leap through frequency shifting, a few companies are working on it.
This Apple Watch thing will end with apple just buying the whole other company
I just realized I ordered the sweater Marques is wearing two years ago and never got it😞 damn
QUESTION: if you already have the watch and Apple must change/reconfigure the tech will the “old” tech still be supported??
BMW 530e was supposed to have wireless charging... there may have been a few in the wild.
Maybe 🤔 the Roadster has an air suspension that can lower itself to the mat?
Watch’em steal that idea
Now I have to go listen to the lyrics of Hey Ya by OutKast
Some cool MKBHF tech accessories and gadgets we can use on the daily would be great for you core subscribers, specialty products for your speciality viewers
What if they changed the blood oxygen sensor to just sense how much air quality that’s around like if you were in a small space. Not the blood oxygen that’s in the body. That’s different enough use case for the hardware right ?
Two completely different measurements.
Do you think that pixel sensor thing has to do with potentially not hiring professional photographers to sort of, tell them how to tweak their algorithms
F for Adam
Wireless charging - watch the Fully Charged episode where they had wireless charging for taxis and it’s very efficient and they tested thru an inch on ice sat on top. Really easy and rapid charging too, not 7/11kw rate.
Tesla can solve the alignment to get best wireless charging by adopting the current vacuum robot where it went back to the exact charging port everytime…so some software to auto drive the car towards the ideal wireless charging spot after the driver stops at the dedicated parking point.
i just bought my ultra 2, 2 weeks ago .havnt had an apple watch since the watch 4. im 72 yrs old but still a watch and cellphone junckie. now this . but i still like my watch.
Surely best small phone has to be s23? The Zenphone 10 has less width but the s23 has less height, thickness and weight. S23 screen size is bigger as it has thinner bezels.
no we use that blood oxygen all the time its helped me go to the hospital when my level was wrong paired with other data from my apple watch and iphone .....
I live at 7400 ft and wear oxygen at night. The oxygen sensor is a critical component for me for monitoring my health.
I have a famuly member with health issues that bought a Series 8 or 9 apple watch specifically because the blood oxygen monitoring, its not 100% but it's honestly really good for what it is, and has hrlp them greatly with monitoring their condition. If apple just disabled that feature, it defeats a large reason why they bought the watch.
Should apple disable the feature, they need to either give people the option to get a refund, or some sort of credit.
why did NO ONE tell me my hair looked like that
Have you seen my hair on literally any given day
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You are underestimating the importance of the blood oxygen sensor because you have no personal use for it. However, as someone who had lung clots a few years ago, it’s one of the reasons I bought and wear an Apple Watch today as I have to monitor my oxygen levels constantly. It’s too inconvenient to carry a monitor in my pocket. I know at least three other people with health related issues who use that feature on the watch heavily. If Apple were to discontinue the feature after I purposely bought the watch for it, I would expect a refund from my watch and I would switch to something else that offers it.
The Apple Watch was never FDA approved as a pulse oximeter. If you have a medical reason to know an accurate measure of your blood o2 levels, why risk it on a non-medical device for convenience’ sake?
You shouldn't be using it to replace medical equipment anyways
@@glittery_ponies2035 it’s not about competing with a medical instrument. Sometimes all you need is to know if your levels are going up or down before going to whatever meter you may have. Having it on the watch helps prevent you from having to carry around a meter in your pocket all the time. it doesn’t replace a medical meter, but it does add convenience and yes again, some people buy the watch for that reason.
Every week clear my schedule for MKBHD videos, not just for the spicy takes and fire camera comparisons, but because my 2015 self who discovered a dude filming phones in his room wouldn't believe I'm now glued to a tech king's pronouncements.
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It’s impossible not to pull for him and the crew. Those dudes are just loving life.
@@pr0adam how!
I fall asleep to this podcast like it’s a lullaby and then watch it again later lol
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A little take on the Apple Watch, I'm a retail employee for a wireless company. We were told we could only sell what we already had in stock but in the event of the sales being suspended, no more Apple Watches Series 9 and Ultra 2 were going to be sent. So we can only sell Watch SE
When your computer is idle, or when you're only doing light work, you can run the software "folding home" in the background, which uses the computer's CPU and Graphics Card to help scientists calculate complex data sets used for medical research aiming to cure diseases like cancer.
how in the world did you decide to post this comment here @@ncard00
Shout out and congrats to Andrew. I honestly missed his viewpoints while he was on leave. Owning up to something as small as dismissing the Apple suit is refreshing in the podcast world.
I agree 110%
Anytime David says “A little bit of history…” I know it’s about to be a fav episode
[I believe you meant to refer to David at 00:01:36, isn't that right?] =)
@@johso87yes I did, thank you!
The Apple Watch spo2 sensor is actually very accurate, when I was sat in the back of an ambulance the Apple Watch matched the ambulance sensor on the finger 100% and every fluctuation was also picked up.
Throughout the whole Google lawsuit thing, all I could think of was “then why doesn’t Apple have to open its iOS to allow side loading?” Frankly it’s so anti-competitive in this time and age
i'm not the tech expert, or a lawyer, or anything, but... Apple makes their own hardware and software, so it's their proprietary product/platform as a whole. it was like that since forewer. people who buy apple products know what they sign for. and developers never developed apps to sell outside of appstore. so they can do whatever... google , on the other hand, is not. that's the first reason. second reason is that android kinda always was and kinda "advertised" itself as an "open" platform... but, in fact, in recent years especially, it's not so anymore. when i try to install something that is not an google store from apk file i get an error. that's defeat the whole purpose of an open system. so if a developer developes an app for android, and it's simply aren't compatible to your phone because it's not on play market - it's gating.
I think it's because as closed as apple is, they seem to be playing fair. Google was incentivising apps to come into the play store at a discounted price while Apple never had such a program
@@ivanchizhikov9939are you implying some that pay for an iPhone doesn't own it?
@@obsydian806so you are saying Google was competing with apps while apple just don't have to complete... donno man, some sounds hella anti-competitive
@@davixpixie243 Not exactly what I was saying. Google wasn't competing as much as they were making an uneven playing field. Apple takes a 30% cut, period. This allows big apps and small apps to pay the same "apple tax" and reach the same demographics. Google on the other hand claims to have a 30% cut across the board but unfairly discounts some applications. That isn't exactly encouraging competition since some applications have an implicit advantage. Hence why Google lost their lawsuit and Apple didn't
I hated 'baby on board' bumper stickers too but then i learned it was originally intended for first responders to know to look for a small human in your mangled car instead of just the folks in the front seats.
Whether that's why everyone uses those stickers is another thing but I've come around to giving a little grace for these sticker bearers.
Dang man that’s dark. Never thought about that.
That's a super fair point I'd never thought of! Reminds me of the sticker they gave us to put on our bedroom windows so if your house caught on fire a fireman would know there was a child somewhere
Something…something…Burt Ward!
I believe that those 3 guys are perfect combo for TECH PODCAST.
David has a curiosity of knowing fundamentals (basics) of any technology.
Andrew, although sometimes wrong, is pretty good at speculating things in tech world.
Marques has a lot of experience on new cutting edge technology and also some old versions of them so that he can compare the upgrades.
Ellis and Adam are part of this podcast quite considerably as well I'd say.
The key is that all 5 have, based on their background, have a distinct role.
Also Apple can’t just remove a feature from a product that’s this new as then customers would have a right to refund it as they loose something they paid for. Not a feature i personally care about much but for sure just removing it off a brand new device via software update would be crazy.
... didnt seem to matter for force touch on series 4 watch. That got removed after the fact.
@@timfngwena ohh really. Legit didn’t know that. That being said this is a health item and this product is only sales wise 2 months old so I’m sure customers wouldn’t like it to simply disappear few months after buying it!
Ask google how they handle that lol
@@ReviewThisTestThat true story 😂
@@epicchris1985 Amazon’s halo band did the same thing and they bricked that to E-waste
blood oxygen is very important in sleep tracking, it can tell you if you have sleep apnea or not, not having the sensor is a serious downgrade if they are forced to remove it from the next applewatch
I don’t think it would be a problem in next apple watch because they will tweak something to make it different but that is 9 months away.
@@nishantrajani7372 Change the algorithm in the current one to keep sales going / making it suck, then release a new one that works much better next gen... That is what they did with noise canceling in the air pod pro's
It'd be sick to see a whole podcast episode shot on phones. I'd imagine you've got enough phones to do the multi-camera setup. I think audio would be rough haha
Audio would be the easy part just usb digital mics there are options and they sound fine. The issue would be heat. Multiple phones running good mic’s and recording in 4K continuously..even an iPhone 15 pro would overheat trying that past 30-35minutes, even at 1080p
So true.
If you think Google moves slow take a look at the FDA. They move at continent drift speeds.
😂😂
I work in biopharma at the small scale/clinical level. Trust me it’s slow. It takes at a minimum 10 years to maybe bring a new drug to market and that’s if it passes clinical trials. Plus you need to pay a $500M filing fee just for the FDA to begin their revision process.
Merry Christmas from the UK guys. Thank again for all that you do! Its the weekend in the UK and its now Christmas Holiday too :)
Correction, on Samsung phones both of them are on the home screen on setup.
As far as I'm aware it just used to be the galaxy store, I think only having the Play store might be a requirement for everyone but Samsung because they're the special one.
find someone who talks about you the way Ellis talks about his 2021 iPhone 12 Mini
That cheese-verse joke from Marques was standing-ovation-slow-clap-worthy. 👍
It may not be medically accurate but the oxygen sensor is good for people with COPD to casually keep an eye on trends and I hope Apple does not see it as a throw away feature, like these guys suggested. I think it is important not only to them but athletes and rock climbers among other people for use. It will not replace a medically accurate fingertip sensor when one needs very accurate measurements but is indispensable for understanding trends and tracking generally well being so Apple, if you are listening, please do not listen to these guys. You must do whatever it takes to keep the oxygen sensor
Shout out to Andrew for the Instagram for iPad comment, haha!
I was so shocked finding out Andrew was a dad. I’ve spent *YEARS* thinking this man was gay.
And no, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Tho just goes to show how one shouldn’t stereotype.
I’d like to see Andrew be more confident with his questions! A couple times he thought he was gonna ask a dumb question but i thought all of them were interesting and what i was thinking too
This google lawsuit seems reasonable, though I wonder how it will affect security. My bigger question is, isn't Apple even more anticompetative in terms of sideloading and app store pricing?
Probably Apple is lobbying hard by claiming that the consequences are not implementable on their system and "security issues"™. As they just outright disallow anything not Apple instead of having deals its a different enough situation?
Yes they are, but because the app store is only on apple phones they don't consider it as a platform. Which means it won't be judged like the g app was judged.
Blood O2 is pretty dang important if you have sleep apnea.
Or COPD
I agree
Kudos to Andrew for being so respectful of his coworkers allowing them to talk. Also, I use the Ghost case from Dbrand for magsafe, it's amazing (I don't like stickers on my phones).
I love seeing Ellis start talking and realize if he starts ranting he won’t stop but I wanna hear his rants so bad. Extra Ellis Episode… ALLITERATION. (Read that like Josh yelling spherical 😂)
As an anemic person, the blood oxygen sensor on fitbit is what helped clue my doctor into ordering me an iron infusion. I was exhausted and barely functional for the 2 months leading up to the infusion. Most people may not benefit from the health features, but for people with known conditions, it can help a lot.
You guys mentioned that you’re not sure why the temp sensor feature exists. From what I’ve read that actually has been revolutionary feature for a lot of women when it comes to cycle tracking especially since the Natural Cycles app for example got FDA (and European) approval recently to integrate with it. Meaning it can now act as an approved method of contraception and fertility tracking as well.
If Apple did the software method they’d likely create a different sku exclusively in software and watchOS just sends a version of watchOS without the blood oxygen app to users, sort of like how the iPhone XS Max has a device sku exclusively for china(fun fact about this sku: iOS 16.4 can be downgraded on this sku but not the global sku).
They have no reason to remove it from existing customers and that could lead to legal problems if they removed an advertised feature even if people didn’t use it, similar to the Other OS feature on the PS3 which the class action won.
Just me , but I feel curved glass phone 's shouldn't be automatically disqualified from the design award. That kinda doesn't make sense to be.
Zero sense.
Ok my theory for the Pixel 8 pro temperature sensor is that they at first intended to add a LiDar sensor but something happened, either they couldn't find a supplier or they ran into patent issues or maybe they just couldn't find a way to integrate it into Google Apps but they already had the Pixel 8 pro housings made with the hole on them and just had to find something to fill it with which could explain why the thermometer app seems like they made it during a lunch break.
The app not allowing a continuous reading makes it even more useless.
To play the devils (googles) advocate, they do provide their proprietary operating system, so I think expecting to have their services used as a form of payment makes sense (also why the crack down on the store while the play services will keep existing). Now that they wont be allowed to do that, theyll likely have to find another way to profit off of developing Android.
If any company is not okay with having to pay the price, they can use the AOSP and wont have to ask for permission to load their store.
It did feel a little hard when the same rules don't apply at all to other store fronts like for apple....
I mean, android is 100% open source(aosp). Any OEM can do it without the play store. I don't like google too much but apple is at like 88% of young users in the US and they get to keep their monopoly intact?
Project Butter was a real thing though... Remember, it was that whole Android thing where they wanted to standardize that 60 fps smoothness in the UI.
Yeah that's what we're making the reference to.
Okay, glad I wasn’t dreaming that lmao
43:20 I was on the blue sky waitlist from day 1 but they were busy giving invite codes to influencers and their friends,so when I finally got the invite like a couple of weeks ago, I had soured on the whole idea and the username I wanted was taken.
Federating sounds absolutely horrible. I don't want the world idiots coming into all one place and being posted every where. Each app, each social media sphere has its own vibe and would ruin it.
such cool sweatshirt yall are wearing!!
You already have a very capable robot... a car. Tesla will have the car position itself over the charging pad then either the car will lower or the pad will most likely raise itself for that optimal wireless charging.
The Roomba has been self charging for over a decade and this method is perfect. If a car can parallel-park itself then it can pull up forward to a charging port, exposing contact pads from the "bumper" using IR sensors to guide itself in like the Roomba.
Think about it... since the 60's we have been pumping combustible liquid through a rod at 35,000 ft while traveling at 375 mph.
The McLaren Speedtail's wireless charging pad is for trickle charging the hybrid electric motor battery pack, not the 12V lead acid battery
I love that you have an audio only podcast available, but seeing you guys do the magic of team cooperation live is just so much better
man I still remember when in August I putted a reminder for every day of December to comment on the 2023 awards that the Google fold won best foldable during waveform in August and it did not win 😭
How can we purchase one of these Christmas sweaters? 😢
A shoutout from Andrew is pretty much equal to winning the award 💙
Next time y'all do the blind camera test you should ask for the participant's daily driver phone. I wonder if the phone camera that they are used to adds any bias.
Installer rights to preloaded apps
If you opened up the pre-installed Samsung Appstore app for the first time, you would be directed to the settings to allow it to install apps before it could actually do that.
So they are just saying when you get the phone, Samsung will be able to have the Samsung Appstore on your device with that setting already toggled on.
you just need dewalt to make a car and we just swap the battery packs lol
Thank god the playstore will be forced to be better cuz right now it FUCKING SUCKS ASS.
shouldve lost even more money reEEEEEEEEE
Sooo I have the series 9 watch. can I return it if doesn’t work properly? And I’m doing a cellular plan payments
Ppl actually using threads?!
What if Apple spends 2 billion to fix this issue? Won't touch apple 🍎. Apple will collect all these costs in next iPhone series from their zombie costumers. I am well sure all money they lose will get top up with iPhone 16 series prices. Regardless of iPhone prices Apples zombie costumers will line up and empty their credit card in the store 😅😅😅 wait and see iPhone 16 prices 😅😅 and if you own any of those watch if Apple stop letting you use that sensor then you can also sue Apple because you have paid for that future.
The 24's on Marques's sleeves make it look like he's endorsing an inferior frame rate.
Do you know if the apple watch 9 and ultra 2 will continue receiving watch specific updates, and will they have trade in value next year?
I have the same question. Someone said AppleCare will support. I’m wondering about pushed updates.
Pretty sure they include AirPods in their wearable stats no?
Yeah, the reported revenue category is really called "Wearables, home and accessories".