Masters Of The Air - Flight Gear Worn By The USAAF

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  • @davidkalbacker6033
    @davidkalbacker6033 11 місяців тому +70

    I donated my later father’s uniform set to the 95th BG museum in Horham. This included his original crush hat and his canvas flight bag. He was B-17 pilot completing 35 missions in 1944.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  11 місяців тому +6

      Oh wow, I’m yet to make it to Horham but hope to next year. What was his name as I’d love to see his uniform on display there!

    • @davidkalbacker6033
      @davidkalbacker6033 10 місяців тому +8

      @@WW2Wayfinder Warren T. Kalbacker.

    • @dannymcreynolds1060
      @dannymcreynolds1060 10 місяців тому +12

      ​@davidkalbacker6033 my grandpa flew with your dad. Lt Col. McReynolds. April to August of 44, 95th BG 334th BS. Both of them piloted a plane called Able Mable during their 35 missions.

    • @davidkalbacker6033
      @davidkalbacker6033 10 місяців тому +5

      @@dannymcreynolds1060 Wow you are so right. Great to meet on here. I am guessing to you have been to Horham UK?

    • @dannymcreynolds1060
      @dannymcreynolds1060 10 місяців тому +6

      @davidkalbacker6033 no, but it is on my bucket list. i watched a video of a horham reunion from around 2005 i want to say and unexpectedly found a video of my grandpa that i had never seen before. Great to meet you as well sir, amazing what our father and grandfather went thru for us to be able to be where we are today.

  • @Lancer-y5g
    @Lancer-y5g 10 місяців тому +11

    Thank you sir for doing this. My grandfather was a B-17 pilot. He was killed in the Scheinfurt raid in October 1943. I hope to visit the bases in England someday along with viewing his name in the book behind the alter at St. Paul’s

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +1

      You're most welocme. Do you know which BG your Grandfather served with? I'd be more than happy to advise you on planning any future trip to the UK so please let me know if I can be of any help!

  • @77Cardinal
    @77Cardinal 10 місяців тому +9

    Thank you. I once asked a B-17 bombardier from Missouri what his kit was when he was shot down over Germany in 1944. "We had whatever they gave us" was the answer. I appreciate this tour through the gear they gave him. And also, "Bill" would probably blush if he could see this video. He didn't think he was anything special. He was just doing his job so somebody else didn't have to and he could go home. About the crush hat. My Dad brought home the khaki one from his time in the Pacific along with his formal dress hat. He told me the regulation hat was issued with a celluloid band inside for proper shape and that flying officers took them out for comfort. It was against regulations but the look caught on and after a while everybody took them out and that became accepted except for dress uniforms. Well...that's his war story anyway. Cheers.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +4

      Thank you for sharing that! They were an incredible generation and I’m so grateful for Bill and your Father and all of their buddies for doing what they did.
      As for the crusher caps, it’s funny as the RAF did the same thing, although the hats are constructed differently the more crushed and bent out of the uniform shape the better they looked I think!

  • @DrMyEyes
    @DrMyEyes Рік тому +12

    All of your videos are outstanding. The best war history on UA-cam. Arguably the best channel on UA-cam. Thank you for sharing your compelling knowledge of WWII with all of us who now live in freedom and democracy… and those who will.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +3

      Thank you, that’s very kind of you to say so. I hope it provides a good insight into the equipment the men of the 8th USAAF used during their time in combat and how it’ll appear in Masters of the Air when it finally comes out! Thanks again for taking the time to watch!

  • @waynekerr5645
    @waynekerr5645 10 місяців тому +12

    I’m lucky enough to live quite near to Thorpe Abbots and I can honestly say that it’s the most amazing place. The volunteers do an incredible job, but more than that, if you’re lucky enough to ‘feel’ the history of a place, then get yourself up into the control tower and gaze out over where the runways once teamed with aircrew and bombers, now returned to agriculture - it’s magical.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +7

      I love Thorpe Abbott’s (I highly recommend their Century Coffee by the way) and the atmosphere there is something else.
      I grew up near Harrington which was home to the 801st/492nd BG flying clandestine B24 Liberators and that old airfield has a similar feel.
      If you listen carefully you can still hear those big radials turnings…

    • @MichaelCase-d4e
      @MichaelCase-d4e 10 місяців тому +7

      That airfield sentimental feel..truly captured in the opening scene in "Twelve O' Clock High, 1949, filmed at Eglin AFB), when Dean Jagger, as 918th former officer, returns to "Archbury" Field, England post-war. His character had found, and purchased the squadron ceramic namesake mug in a nearby village shop - an act that stirred him, memory, and desire to bike to the old field. He finds that agriculture, weeds overgrown, encroach the actual landing pavement. WHAT FOLLOWS IS MAGICAL (spoiler alert..) engines coughing, coming to life as he "returns to that time" of mission start-up, the ensuing camaraderie of his sqdn mates, thus, the narrative is propelled before the viewer...building on your precious insight here❤

  • @igotplasteredstan2008
    @igotplasteredstan2008 Рік тому +10

    Well done again, I think you've surpassed yourself with all the information you've accumulated, this must have taken you ages. You have really worked hard on this, total dedication. Thank you for all your effort.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I just hope it helps provide some context as to why equipment changed or what was worn and why when the series is released as clearly they won’t be able to do that so hopefully it’s a useful guide!
      Thank you for watching 😃

  • @geraldoram2453
    @geraldoram2453 Рік тому +11

    Fabulous research as always. Such a mass of information, thanks.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +3

      Thank you! I hope it helps explain how and why things were used and explains what we’ll be seeing when Masters of the Air finally hits our screens in January!

  • @dnldcow
    @dnldcow Рік тому +12

    Very informative well done video , always enjoy watching it gives a better understanding of some of the equipment used by our airman keep them coming .

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I think it’s important to see how and why things changed through the 2 years the 100th were in combat as the series obviously won’t be able to explain it.
      It’ll just be really interesting to see how the series does cover the 2 years and I can’t wait to see the equipment used on the screen as there’s never been one film outside of wartime footage that got it 100% correct so I think Masters of the Air will be the closest we’ll get!

  • @martysheets6882
    @martysheets6882 Рік тому +10

    Love your work Brother, keep it Up.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I’ll have quiet a few USAAF and RAF related videos over the coming few months, all alongside the usual stuff!

  • @foxtrap8826
    @foxtrap8826 10 місяців тому +6

    Very interesting presentation. My Dad (Clifton Durkee) piloted B-17's, and later, B-29's as they became available, and I was exposed to a ;lot of the stuff he had and used. He was an avid shutterbug, and brought copious quantities of photos home. Unfortunately, most of that stuff was "lost in the shuffle" of time. The stories he had he did bring home though, and I was always enthralled with them. The men and women who fought in that war, as well as the others, are forever my heros. God bless their souls.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Do you know which BG he flew with when he was on B-17's? It's great he shared some of his experiences with you!

    • @jeffsmith2022
      @jeffsmith2022 10 місяців тому

      Amen...

  • @rafaelj.benero4880
    @rafaelj.benero4880 9 місяців тому +3

    Excellent information. Very informative video. Thank you for your time making this video! Never forget those Brave Men that went to battle!...

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      Thank you! Hopefully it helps add a bit of context behind the equipment seen in Masters of the Air and why it was used.

  • @afewminutesofhistory
    @afewminutesofhistory Рік тому +5

    Fantastic as always mate! Can’t wait for Masters of the Air!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Thanks mate! Masters of the Air is going to be epic when it’s released and I can’t wait for (if you couldn’t already guess 🤣)

  • @jasonmaccoul
    @jasonmaccoul Рік тому +7

    First class! And you have a natural look in wearing the pieces. Almost looks like you could time travel to that era and fit in!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Thank you! I’d have love to have been an extra in Masters of the Air as lots of my friends were but sadly work got in the way so for me this is the next best thing!
      Thank you for watching 😃

    • @davidsawmandave8731
      @davidsawmandave8731 11 місяців тому

      Was just thinking that as well

  • @richardhowell5390
    @richardhowell5390 8 місяців тому +1

    My father was ground crew safety equipment RAF
    Bomber Command WW2.
    From 1940-43 he was based in England then from mid 1943-46 the Middle East .
    Thank you for your channel I remember seeing the Nae West and parachutes

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  8 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing that about your Father! The job the Safety Equipment fitters did was so vital and their role today continues keeping the aircrew equipment in serviceable condition!

  • @williamantico7768
    @williamantico7768 9 місяців тому +3

    I've been watching the Show. So far up to Episode 4. It's a really good show. I highly suggest watching it.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      Agreed. I’m hooked on it and Episode 5, the Munster raid will be a tough one to watch given the mailing the 13th Combat Wing took that day.

  • @jackshittle
    @jackshittle 10 місяців тому +3

    Amazing content, fantastic job. As a ex- U.S. Naval Aircrewman (on P-3C Orion's 1990-1995) one of our test questions would be "What is the most effective signaling device in all of your gear?" and the answer would be the signal mirror. In my era we had sea dye markers, day/night smokes (same item which dispensed smoke on either end), pencil flares, PRC-90 radio, signal mirror as well as two beaded handles which when pulled inflates a lobe around your neck and then two other bladders on your sides which you would then clip together. I enjoyed seeing the earlier versions of some of these items and how similar they still are.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Thank you!
      It's amzing isnt it that in 80 odd years aircrew equipment hasn't really altered that much, it's just made better for the most part. I think the biggest development is the advent of the helmet mounted queing system that's sprung up in the past 15 years or so. Other than that everything else is sort of the same which is crazy to think how far it progressed from the first war to 1939, and from 39 to 45!

  • @revere0311
    @revere0311 10 місяців тому +3

    Love it, so much amazing information. Thank you for taking the time to create such an amazing piece of history!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      You’re most welcome. Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for watching!

  • @jamessandy9300
    @jamessandy9300 10 місяців тому +3

    Thks for this video. This is the best one ever for ww2 crews

  • @A14b19
    @A14b19 Рік тому +5

    Great collection absolutely great

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Thank you!! It’s a labour of love collecting it all. I have a range of uniform groupings as well from various Bomb groups that I’d like to do a video on at some point and tell the stories of the men they belonged to

  • @mikehinkle5761
    @mikehinkle5761 10 місяців тому +2

    Well-done! And it's obvious you take a lot of care to keep it right, and take pride in your collection! My dad served in the 8th in the 50s. Thank you!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I treasure the items and I have several uniform groups from aircrew as well that I couldn't really show on the episode but they are all prized possesions given what those men did all those years ago.

  • @MikeMontgomery1
    @MikeMontgomery1 10 місяців тому +1

    My grandfather, CW Sellon, was a co-pilot in the 350th squadron of the 100th BG. I've got his uniform and two of the crusher caps, cloth maps, checklists and other items he used. Thanks for this video, it's so interesting to see everything.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      Oh wow thank you for that! You must be so prou of your Granfathers service! Have you had his effects framed at all? I did that with my Grandfathers wartime medals and uniform items and I'm really glad i did.

    • @MikeMontgomery1
      @MikeMontgomery1 9 місяців тому

      @@WW2Wayfinder I have not, but that's a good idea. I move quite often and have been afraid to damage anything so I have it all in fireproof safes. I also have his footlocker and have a few things in that too.

  • @highestsprings
    @highestsprings Рік тому +2

    Really enjoying these series, well researched and helps to bring the era alive. Keep these videos coming, thanks.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +1

      Thank you that’s great to hear! Just nice to be able to share my passion for that time and the history associated with it! And I can’t wait to see it when Masters of the Air is finally released!!! Thanks again for watching

  • @33rdusa
    @33rdusa Рік тому +3

    Excellent information as always! Lots of vital details about that equipment. Your passion for the subject clearly shows through. Visiting the tower museum at Bassingbourn years ago (home of the 91st Bomb Group), I got to try on a heavy flak jacket. Just a small piece of the bulky equipment those men wore, and I gained a whole new appreciation for what they endured. And then to have people shooting at you on top of all that!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Oh nice! I haven’t had the time sadly to visit Basignborn yet but it’s on the list for late next year. Those flak jackets are incredibly heavy aren’t they! Makes you wonder with all their other equipment how they made it around the aircraft just doing their assigned roles let alone trying to treat wounded buddies or fend off fighter attacks! They will always have my complete respect and admiration!

    • @terrym3837
      @terrym3837 10 місяців тому

      Bassingbourn museum is closed now

  • @poppy5986
    @poppy5986 10 місяців тому +1

    It is, I always try to imagine B17s out on the old runway when I stand looking out. My dad took me to Thorpe Abbotts years ago, I can remember looking at the photos of the aircrew, who were my age at the time I visited. It brought home the reality of war to me. It’s an amazing tribute to the men who served there. The 100ARW based at RAF Mildenhall, are now closely affiliated with the 100BG. They have even added the square D box to the tail fins of their KC135s. Some planes have also had nose art added to the tankers. I know they also visit Thorpe Abbotts, and are proud of their 100BG heritage

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      It's great isnÄT it how the modern USAF at Mildenhall pay such homage to the crews that went before them. It's easy to forget, but I love thatasa modern military unit they actively remember those who went before.

    • @TheSniperGTO
      @TheSniperGTO 9 місяців тому

      I’m retired after 25 years in. I currently about 5 miles from LRAFB, the main C-130 base for the Air Force. You’ll see them flying every day, sometimes 6 or 8 at a time in trail formation. I always imagine what it would have looked like to see 150 B-17’s flying towards their target. Quite a sight I reckon.
      I’ve flown in the Yankee Lady, a B-17 maintained by the Yankee Air Museum when they flew down here for an air show. Not a lot of room in those things.

  • @suepalin9202
    @suepalin9202 Рік тому +9

    Band of Brothers was superb and, IMO, Damian Lewis's best performance. Having read Donald L. Miller's book, I'm very much looking forward to this mini-series which should be an excellent tribute to these brave men. It's good to see that there are small, privately-funded museums on some of these old USAAF bases as permanent reminders of their sacrifice.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +2

      The museums in the UK are very special. Each has its own unique feel and it’s lovely to stand on the old airfields and soak up the atmosphere. For me Masters of the Air will be the defining wartime series as I think we’ll finally be able to see the magnitude of those daylight raids!

    • @suepalin9202
      @suepalin9202 Рік тому +2

      Some of those airfields have an unnerving atmosphere which is hardly surprising given the fatalities incurred on those places - Thorpe Abbotts is just one airfield which is said to be haunted. The daylight raids were slaughter in the skies above Occupied Europe. The courage of the USAAF (and Bomber Command) crews must never be forgotten. Thanks, Jon!@@WW2Wayfinder

    • @bettylaselli2048
      @bettylaselli2048 Рік тому +2

      ​@@WW2Wayfinder thank you, thank you, thank you very much for sharing ❤

    • @jive091
      @jive091 11 місяців тому +1

      Me too 👍

  • @philc4520
    @philc4520 2 місяці тому

    Fantastic. Exceptionally thorough, comprehensive & insightful presentation. Excellent job - very well done!

  • @troyplumer8589
    @troyplumer8589 10 місяців тому +1

    Good job on the video, sir! Marvelous to have this info. in advance of the Masters of the Air series. Thanks to you and those who may have helped. Take care!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +1

      You’re most welcome!
      I’m now counting the days until the 26th and it’s release!

  • @boblill8476
    @boblill8476 10 місяців тому +1

    Another job well done, thanks very much . Very well thought out scripts , great audio recording .

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Thank you! Hopefully it helps provide some background to the equipment and gear shown on Masters!

  • @michaelquinn7711
    @michaelquinn7711 10 місяців тому +2

    Absolutely awesome Jon, I’m new to this channel and have been watching it in the past few days, the content and presentation is brilliant, Master of the Air episode was outstanding. As ex RAF and been/served in many of the old bomber stations along the RAF A1, I full appreciate content and work gone into these presentations.
    Well done and thank you. Per Audra Ad Astra.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Thank you! Welcome to the channel!
      Many moons ago I spent time on JFH at Cottesmore and I love that part of England for the RAF history there. At some point I plan to document as many old airfields as i can as they are very special places.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @jimomaha7809
    @jimomaha7809 10 місяців тому +2

    The American airman actually received the British flight equiptment , C-type, helmets, goggles, chest/obserever type harness/parachute packs, 41pattern life vests, in a reversed land lease deal This was a deal with the Americans when they send their first air force squadrons to Britain. As you mentioned the Americans liked the British chest harness with quick release a lot, and started in 1944 to produce their own versions as the A3 harness. I have an original A3 and indeed a near copy of the British harness.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Ah thanks for that and makes perfect sense about the lend lease.

    • @manuelcastaneda7838
      @manuelcastaneda7838 9 місяців тому

      Army Air Force wore brown shoes..

  • @ronaldleigh1933
    @ronaldleigh1933 10 місяців тому +1

    been going to Thorpe Abbotts since 1987 - had several vet friend s - from one visit to TA started something big - great narration - thanks

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      It’s a wonderful place isn’t it! Must have been incredible to see it from the late 80’s to now. Every time I’ve been there it always feels very peaceful.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @bugs5644
    @bugs5644 Рік тому +1

    wow,.. lots of good info . thanks. cant wait for the series.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Thank you and likewise! January the 26th is already marked on the calendar and I’ll be taking the day off work to really enjoy it as soon as it’s available!

  • @KaiDon1
    @KaiDon1 10 місяців тому +1

    I’ve been waiting for this series for 15+ years from “the mighty eight “ to “master of the air” from “HBO” to “Apple TV” ,

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Likewise! It’s amazing to finally see it on the screen!

    • @brianperry
      @brianperry 10 місяців тому

      The RAF were bombing Germany long before the USA even entered WW2..in fact the first 1000 bomber raid was RAF not as Hollywood would have us all to believe by the USAF...

  • @andrewwhittaker4097
    @andrewwhittaker4097 Рік тому +1

    Fabulous research and detail never found on modern TV documentaries.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Thank you! It’ll be amazing to see it all in the new series when it’s released next month!

  • @herefordshireregimentalmus8771

    Great video, superb work!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Thanks mate! I’m counting down the days for the 26th January when I can really geek out!!!

  • @adammitchell3462
    @adammitchell3462 20 днів тому +1

    Absolutely a wonderful series,just as the Pacific is but as far as ww2 miniseries is concerned,band of brothers just cant be beat! I love all these series!

  • @richardmardis2492
    @richardmardis2492 11 місяців тому +1

    Why didn’t I already know this!
    Thanks for the enlightenment 👍

  • @MikeS-ear2ear
    @MikeS-ear2ear 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video, very informative. Looking forward to more detailed info about the Masters of the Air series .

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Thank you! Hopefully it provides some details they perhaps weren’t able to put into the series for whatever reason.

  • @corn-delta
    @corn-delta 9 місяців тому

    I like how „Masters of the air“ sparks the interest on details of topics i have been wondering about ever since i watched „Memphis Belle“ as a kid. Thank you so much for this detailed and nicely made video! I appreciate all the information and the passion that went into making it! Best wishes from Germany!

  • @HistorySavior1941
    @HistorySavior1941 10 місяців тому +1

    This was a super cool video! So much information gained in this!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you!

    • @HistorySavior1941
      @HistorySavior1941 10 місяців тому

      You’re welcome my friend! Keep up the fantastic work. You’re one of the best out there!

  • @poppy5986
    @poppy5986 10 місяців тому +1

    Really interesting! I thoroughly recommend visiting Thorpe Abbotts too.
    I watched an old interview with a Spitfire pilot the other day. He was talking about life jackets. He said around the time of the Battle of Britain, RAF pilots preferred the German pilot’s life jackets, and often wore them if they could get their hands on one. He said they were more comfortable. The only downside being that the back of the neck was really high and rigid which meant you couldn’t turn your head around very easily when sat inside the cockpit of the plane. Something that he discovered during a dog fight over the Kent countryside!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Thorpe Abbotts is wonderful isn't it! Standing on top of that tower and looking out over the airfield is always an incredible experince let alone the amazing collection of 100th BG uniforms and artefacts there!

  • @katiem6773
    @katiem6773 10 місяців тому +1

    So interesting and well done. Thank you!

  • @SEAKPhotog
    @SEAKPhotog 10 місяців тому +1

    That was terrific, thank you! My wife and I just watched the 1st 2 episodes of Masters of the Air and were wondering about the different pieces of equipment.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      You're most welcome! Hopefully it helped add some background to what you saw on screen and I for one am amazed at the attention to detail the producers have gone to in terms of the equipment used in the filming, it's incredible to see!

  • @johncaldwell-wq1hp
    @johncaldwell-wq1hp 9 місяців тому +1

    JUST AN OUTSTANDING JOB--MATE JUST THE BEST-!!-THANK-YOU !!

  • @christophermancini7380
    @christophermancini7380 10 місяців тому +1

    Outstanding! Very enjoyable video.

  • @jazzclarinet2006
    @jazzclarinet2006 10 місяців тому +1

    A fantastic video! You truly know your stuff and have an amazing collection.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! Always lots to learn but I really enjoy diving into the books and trying to find out more information and to be able to bring my collection to life is always fun!

  • @Ba_A
    @Ba_A 8 місяців тому +2

    It has always bewildered me how the downed pilots kept their officer's hats even after bailing out of their planes. You'll see them as POWs wearing their caps as well as other uniform/gear that would have been lost when they jumped out of the plane.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  8 місяців тому

      A lot of them had them stuffed into their jackets or under their Mae wests. Also lots of images of gunners with their service boots tied to their parachute harness so if they had to bale out and survived they could ditch the heavy leather and rubber sheep lined flying boots and wear their normal issued footwear. Although not sure how safe it would be having them tied on to your harness was, but at that point if they needed to bake out I can’t image they’d have cared!

  • @thechadillac1211
    @thechadillac1211 10 місяців тому +1

    Five Great Uncles and a Grandfather ALL bombers guys, 8th,15th and 7th AF. My grandfather finally gave up the ghost at 99. The last member of Lefty’s Wolfpack. Thank you for sharing this info, fascinating.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Oh wow! Incredible they all served on bombers! I just searched for Lefty's Wolfpack as I'd not heard of them before so I'll definitley read up on those guys.Do you know what units in the 8th and 15th your Uncles served with?

  • @simongorton6297
    @simongorton6297 10 місяців тому +1

    It’s been a long wait for this I’m especially fond of air warfare so keep the videos coming old chap happy new year too you and your family

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      I’ve got a few more lined up looking at the 100th plus several more ideas for episodes focusing on RAF/USAAF and Luftwaffe stories!
      Masters of the Air is going to be amazing and only 23 days to go!!!!
      Thanks for watching 😃

  • @steveb5341
    @steveb5341 Рік тому +1

    Superb video mate very informative & insightful. Looking forward to the Masters release now!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +1

      Thanks mate! I think Masters will be like nothing we’ve seen before and I’ve got the day booked off so I can watch it a couple of times! Roll on the 26th January!

    • @steveb5341
      @steveb5341 Рік тому +1

      @@WW2Wayfinder that’s what I call great preparation 👏🏻🪖🍻

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +1

      I’ve waited too long to miss it 🤣

  • @timclassey5621
    @timclassey5621 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video thanks for posting.

  • @eamo106
    @eamo106 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant Wayfinder, NO, Much better than brilliant ?
    I forwarded this to the CAF in Texas on their page.
    That is 20 years of history and knowledge, condensed and explained. I can see the Masters of the Air prop manager sweating !

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Hope it helps when the series comes out and it provides a bit of insight into why things will change as the episodes progress! I’m really excited to see just how the do show that change in equipment as the years progress from 43 to 45!

    • @eamo106
      @eamo106 Рік тому

      @@WW2Wayfinder Well CAF Liked my post to them, I am a Brit in Texas and follow CAF.
      I doubt that the film prop manager had this level of detail and all is now filmed.
      I follow your journeys and exploits.
      Mark Felton looking over his shoulder !

  • @1339LARS
    @1339LARS 10 місяців тому +2

    You did it again!!! Great vid!!!!//Lars

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! This is my true passion when it comes to the war and I can’t wait for the 26th and the release of Masters Of The Air!
      Thanks again for taking the time to watch

  • @deltaflyer9078
    @deltaflyer9078 11 місяців тому +1

    This video is absolutely fabulous, well done!!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! Had to do something to keep myself busy until the series begins!!!

  • @bettylaselli2048
    @bettylaselli2048 Рік тому +2

    Woooow Excellent vídeo! I love it!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Hopefully when the series comes out it’ll all make sense and we’ll see lots of it in the series!

  • @davebourdon3258
    @davebourdon3258 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome review of the Aircrew Clothing and Equipment!!!

  • @davidk7324
    @davidk7324 9 місяців тому +1

    Very helpful information. Thank you.

  • @garypender9459
    @garypender9459 Рік тому +2

    Second time commenting! The B-17 gear show was great! I enjoy your knowledge and enthusiasm RE: WWll!! I visited Duxford in 2019 for D-Day 75, great history, and great American museum! Suggestion? Do a story on Duxford and it’s use in WWll and the movie Battle of Britain, along with
    the American Air Museum and the US Cemetery in Cambridge? Keep up the good work!🇺🇸

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Lots planned for several episodes on a wide range of airfields so don’t worry Duxford will be one of them!
      Hope you had a great time when you visited as the airshows there and the museum collection are first class!

  • @Paul1970
    @Paul1970 7 днів тому

    Awesome video. Thank you for sharing. I have a repro B-10 and love it immensely.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  7 днів тому

      Thank you!
      I don’t leave home without my B-10 this time of year!!!

  • @maureencora1
    @maureencora1 Місяць тому +1

    Good Show. 12 O'Clock High is a Fine Movie.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you! I love 12O’Clock High, one of the best films about the air war there is I think.

    • @maureencora1
      @maureencora1 Місяць тому

      @@WW2Wayfinder Touche' (smile)

  • @bv226
    @bv226 10 місяців тому +2

    Excellent information, thank you very much. Fantastic research and detail. Would be helpful however to explain how the crusher cap originated. It certainly is symbolic of aircrew, who removed the shaping grommet from inside to better fit under headphones. Unique to Air Force flight crews, and frowned upon by groundpounders. Sadly, the current US Army issues these to all members, diminishing the significance of those who wore them.

  • @JackRice-u9h
    @JackRice-u9h 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, Jon. It would be interesting to see you r own collection.

  • @WW2AboveandBelow
    @WW2AboveandBelow Рік тому +1

    A nice watch for Thanksgiving in between football games. This channel is getting better and better.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Now just counting the days until we can see all the equipment in use in the new series!!!
      Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving too😃

  • @piotrforkasiewicz2025
    @piotrforkasiewicz2025 Рік тому +1

    Thank You so much for Your great film. Vey well explained!!!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      Thank you! Hopefully it provides some context for when Masters of the Air is released and we see their flight gear change throughout the series!

  • @user-lw7om1sg1m
    @user-lw7om1sg1m 10 місяців тому +1

    Like you Ive been looking fwd to MotA series for years hoping the stories are as good as the attention to details and points out Big Week, Schweinfurt and Berlin battles

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      From what I've seen it'll be quite the series. I'm excited for the 26th and I'll be eagelry awaiting every Friday until March to see the latest episode!

  • @hawlikd
    @hawlikd 10 місяців тому +1

    I am so excited to watch Masters of the Air miniseries.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Likewise! the 26th still feels like a long way off!

  • @RobJones262
    @RobJones262 Рік тому +1

    Stunning collection mate. I live near Thorpe Abbotts, been there many times. Mildenhall has some fantastic artwork in some of its buildings. Cheers ;)

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому +1

      Oh nice! I love that part of the UK. Thorpe Abbott’s museum is amazing and the collection there is stunning. Debra and the team who run the museum do a wonderful job and I highly recommend their Century Coffee next time the museums open!

  • @markharnitchek9205
    @markharnitchek9205 9 місяців тому +1

    terrific tutorial ... many thanks!!!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for taking the time to watch!

  • @SIBSKYHAWK
    @SIBSKYHAWK 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Awesome job.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      My pleasure! Thank you for watching!

  • @frenchfan3368
    @frenchfan3368 11 місяців тому +2

    This was a very thorough, very detailed explanation of flight gear rarely discussed. Well done! Have you considered talking about the various handguns carried by American and British flight crews from the Second World War? I would find that quite interesting.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  11 місяців тому

      Thank you! I’d like to cover more firearm related content but due to UA-cam’s guidelines it can make my life quite tricky trying to navigate their policy and stay on the right side of their ‘law’ if that makes sense. In an ideal world I absolutely would but for now I just planning on sticking with the equipment type content.

  • @1daddyDA
    @1daddyDA 10 місяців тому +1

    This was brilliant. Thanks

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      You're most welcome! thanks for taking th time to watch!

  • @crazygame2724
    @crazygame2724 10 місяців тому +1

    Outstanding video!

  • @user-qy9tf2im7f
    @user-qy9tf2im7f 10 місяців тому +1

    My Father a 449th Bombardment Group B24 Navigator had all his Unforms custom made by a Friend of the Family John Di Tullio a very talented Tailor. Had a complete set made while home on leave before deploying to Italy in 1943. John used the best fabrics he could source and did not charge him a dime, although my Dad had an allowance to pay for them. They were all shipped home when my Father was shot down in January 44. John considered it a privilege to outfit my Dad and was at my Father's coming home party after he was liberated, hospitalized and returned to the States in June 45 Had another set made by a Scottish Tailor while hospitalized in England after liberation. He was 5'9" and only 118 lbs. when liberated. As soon as he gained enough weight to pass a Flight Physical, he was flown back to the States. My Father delayed his 90 day POW uncharged leave to rejoin his Group at the request of the Group Commander and train on the B29 to deploy to the Pacific. Just a regular Guy doing a job for His Country! He did like to dress nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      What an amzing man, thank you for sharing your Father's story! You must be so proud of him!
      And I've always been a huge fan of the style they had back in the 1940's, something we could do with again today!

  • @jeffsmith2022
    @jeffsmith2022 10 місяців тому +1

    Very cool US Army Air Corps Roundel on your hoodie, I might add...Wonderful book...I would hope this film is as good as 12 O' Clock High...Splendid video, FRAGMENTATION...

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Thank you! The hoodie is from The Warbird Coffee Company (the link is in the video description). From all the trailers I've seen of Masters its shaping up to be a good one!

  • @daniellelache6657
    @daniellelache6657 Рік тому +2

    Super video seur tenkiou daniel BORDEAUX FRANCE .

  • @julianlawrence-ball2279
    @julianlawrence-ball2279 9 місяців тому

    My gfs grandfather was a Lancaster navigator, flew his 25 and more. Props to all those young men

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      Absolutely! The courage it took to get in those aircraft every day/night is impossible to imagine. Do you know which Squadron he served with?

  • @marciocorrea8531
    @marciocorrea8531 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video! I love the officer´s caps

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      Thank you! The USAAF Crusher caps are so iconic aren’t they!

  • @Sacto1654
    @Sacto1654 9 місяців тому +1

    In fact, I believe flying the B-17 and B-24 was a strenuous experience because of the fact you flew in an unpressurized cabin with temperatures often well below 0° C. at altitudes over 23,000 feet. This contrasts quite a bit with B-29 crews, who before they switched to low-altitude bombing flew in a pressurized cabin with much more modern flight suits at altitudes as high as 30,000 feet.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      Very much so and that was responsible for a lot of the illnesses suffered by the men as those altitudes and temps are such a savage environment, before even the flak and fighters!

  • @davebourdon3258
    @davebourdon3258 10 місяців тому +1

    My A-2 Jacket was issued to me by the Air Force during my service. It is adorned with 8Th AF leather patch, Leather patch of the 324th, and a leather name board. I call it my baseball, as I would have famous aviators of WWII sign the inside of my jacket. Most of these gentlemen have now past away. It is my most prized item in my militaria collection.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Wonderful! They're such an iconic piece of clothing arent they. I love mine and wear it every chance I get. Amazing to have yours signed! Thanks for watching.

    • @davebourdon3258
      @davebourdon3258 10 місяців тому

      My A-2 Jacket includes both American and German Pilots. Unfortunately none from Japan. It is also sad to say that most of these great airmen have past away. I have been collecting for about 35 years. Thanks for your program! @@WW2Wayfinder

    • @davebourdon3258
      @davebourdon3258 10 місяців тому

      I too have a small collection of RAF memoribila. One item is a British Escape and Evade silk map, very detailed with black print on white silk.

  • @analystanalyst7652
    @analystanalyst7652 11 місяців тому

    In the fifties I and my two brothers all had B-10 jackets from the local Army & Navy store and other items like green wool head pullovers, or balaclavas, and GI wool gloves. We also had a couple of GE signal mirrors like the one you show that we played with besides the ‘bring backs’ like German helmets and holsters, I remember the Nambu holster, in particular, as it had a rattan type finish to the top flap. One kid had flying goggles like the ones shown with the Type C flying helmet and he wore them everywhere. My dad, being in aviation during the war, had a Colt 1911 and shoulder holster that was carried on the Tokyo Raid.
    As I had mentioned, in an earlier youtube, the quick releases and parachute harnesses used by the RAF were actually manufactured in Buffalo, NY by the Irving Air Chute Company. Sadly, we didn’t get them to our own people until later in ’44 and unfortunately some guys drown because of it. The Luftwaffe had them as well. I have three examples of the Luftwaffe versions which were basically identical.
    Good job, thanks.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  11 місяців тому

      Must have been amazing as a kid to have access to all that surplus gear!

  • @craigflenard1099
    @craigflenard1099 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video!

  • @leftymagoo2710
    @leftymagoo2710 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you
    Donewell & well done!

  • @356rah
    @356rah 11 місяців тому +1

    Enjoyed the book and hope the series does it justice and isn’t being overhyped.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  11 місяців тому

      Likewise! The book is excellent and now hoping the series doesn’t have too many cliches and really shows the brutality of the air war and what those young men had to endure.

  • @PeterGunn1958
    @PeterGunn1958 Рік тому +1

    This is certainly close to my heart, excellent job as always. I admit I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to the "Masters of the Air" or not, the few trailers I've seen make me wonder why I see 332nd FG Mustangs, a 15th AF group based in Italy mixed in with 8th AF B-17s based out of England. I hope I'm wrong and that the producers aren't going to do something stupid just to put a modern twist on history. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  Рік тому

      The 332nd FG will fit in with the Operation Frantic missions the 100th BG we’re involved with. It also ties in with the last few episodes when men of the 100th are liberated from Stalag VIIA at Moosburg so don’t worry it all fits in and is accurate. I was lucky to get a lot of inside info from those working on the project 😉

    • @Cplblue
      @Cplblue 10 місяців тому +1

      One of the characters covered in 2nd Lt. Robert Daniels, who was shot down over Marsailles, France in 1944 while attacking a radar unit. He ends up in the POW camp with the crew from the 100th BG. Also in the trailer, you'll see them in P-40s and standing in front of a map of Italy. The writer, John Orloff, said it'll make sense and not to worry.

  • @donbalduf572
    @donbalduf572 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice presentation! I have a high quality A2-style jacket with a modern improvement: Thinsulate lining. It looks just like the WWII jackets but is quite a bit warmer.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      Thank you!
      That’s definitely a must with an A2, otherwise they’re only good for a few weeks in the Spring time and early Autumn! Thank you for watching!

  • @danielroncaioli6882
    @danielroncaioli6882 10 місяців тому +1

    I have my Great Uncle’s jacket with squadron patch from the 427th BS 303 BG out of Molesworth. I have a pic of him and his crew in front of his B17G. It’s in fantastic condition.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +2

      Oh wow! I know Molesworth well and the 303rd BG! Fantastic you have your Great Uncles jacket and that it's remained in your family!

    • @danielroncaioli6882
      @danielroncaioli6882 10 місяців тому

      I wish I had the photo album he smuggled out. My cousin (his daughter) still has that.

    • @terrym3837
      @terrym3837 10 місяців тому

      @@WW2WayfinderThe memorial the 303 at Molesworth is superb.
      Last time I visited US MP’s came and asked what I was doing.
      But when I told them I was taking photos of the memorial they were great and stayed for a chat

  • @Robslondon
    @Robslondon 10 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic video.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! Hopefully we can see some of it in action when Masters Of The Air is released next week!!!!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon 10 місяців тому

      You're very welcome, and yes; much agreed! Really pleased to have found your channel; keep up the great work. @@WW2Wayfinder

  • @astrofransisco
    @astrofransisco 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for the video! Very interesting. I loved Masters of the Air. Could you suggest any other WWII aviation films or series featuring period-accurate jackets and clothing?

  • @zororosario
    @zororosario 10 місяців тому +1

    First Class video history 😊❤

  • @pineapple2665
    @pineapple2665 9 місяців тому +1

    Well done

  • @jamiegroves5155
    @jamiegroves5155 7 місяців тому +1

    My grandfather was general Leslie Groves he said that He is and was an army All the way but B-17 was army airforce but he said that they had worse mortality rate than the marines he said that there blood should be bottled he always told me that they look death in the face nearly everyday He was so impressed with these guys

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  7 місяців тому +1

      Oh wow! What an amzing family history! Thank you so much for sharing that and taking the time to watch my video! Wonderful to know how he respected the bomber crews and their role in the war. Thanks again, thats made my day!

    • @jamiegroves5155
      @jamiegroves5155 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@WW2Wayfinder if you ever want anything from me about my grandfather I have All his diarys and most of his correspondence I that's not in the Smithsonian I'm impressed with your video ive never ever done this before but I am so glad that it made your day anytime

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  7 місяців тому +1

      Oh wow that’s fantastic thank you for the offer!!! I’ll definitely take you up on that at some point!
      Thanks again!

  • @midnighttutor
    @midnighttutor 10 місяців тому +1

    Extremely informative presentation! Would greatly appreciate your thoughts: how common was back art on the A-2 jacket by pilots and when done did it reflect the nose art of their plane or some other theme? Thank you

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      Thank you!
      From what I’ve seen most didn’t decorate their jackets. Those that did would typically represent their aircraft though. Many, it they did anything, would have a Squadron or Group patch painted or seen on to the front.

  • @theochan2911
    @theochan2911 10 місяців тому +1

    Very nice 👌

  • @richardmardis2492
    @richardmardis2492 11 місяців тому +1

    My favorite movie is Twelve O’clock High.
    But, because I been to both the midlands in England, and Florida- I can tell now where the movie was filmed🤣
    Fun fact:
    My mother was stationed at Elgin AFB where the movie was filled back in the very early 1960s.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  11 місяців тому +1

      The first time I saw it I couldn’t quite make out where it was filmed but then years later realised it was in the US. Still perfectly captures the atmosphere of it all and I have a pair of Robin Hood jugs made by a company that recreated them under license from the film!
      I think Peck plays his part magnificently as well as the rest of cast. Definitely a classic that is always a great watch!

    • @richardmardis2492
      @richardmardis2492 11 місяців тому

      @@WW2Wayfinder
      Fun fact:
      The only reason why those B-17s was still in existence and fly able- the were used in nuclear tests.
      …and they were all a little bit radioactive 😲🤣

  • @karenpitts9721
    @karenpitts9721 9 місяців тому +1

    My late uncle, Lt Philip D. Pitts, USAAF, was killed on September 11, 1944 on his ninth mission in Rhuland, Germany.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing that. Do you know what BG your Uncle flew with?

    • @karenpitts9721
      @karenpitts9721 9 місяців тому

      My uncle was in the 100th BG, 350 Squadron at Thorpe Abbotts.

  • @fredrikbostad8585
    @fredrikbostad8585 10 місяців тому +1

    Great job on this one! Can't wait for the series. But what kind of wristwatch would a B-17 crew member use?

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you!
      The standard army issue was the A-11 wrist watch for aircrew during that time

    • @fredrikbostad8585
      @fredrikbostad8585 10 місяців тому

      @@WW2Wayfinder Thank you! 🥰

  • @YARROWS9
    @YARROWS9 10 місяців тому +1

    Hopefully this series will give a nod to the RAF crews, from all over the commonwealth and other nations. That paid the ultimate price for victory.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому

      I hope so too. I hope it doesn't show them as incomponent or lacking by comparision to the USAAF. There is a film called a 'A Memory Owed' all about Bomber command which is due for release this year I think which looks to be very good.

  • @behindthespotlight7983
    @behindthespotlight7983 11 місяців тому +1

    AMAZING video👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
    Given the astronomical casualty rate among RAF & Eighth Air Force it’s surprising they didn’t cross train proper Medics to fly the sorties. Ironically given the extremely limited personnel & weight limitations and considering the fact that Pilot, Copilot, Navigator & Radio Operator are 100% hands-on throughout an entire flight, a Medic would also have to be a Waist Gunner on an American aircraft. (I know Lancasters flew w/ only 7 so dare not speculate how a Medic would fit aboard British aircraft)

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  11 місяців тому

      Thank you!
      That’s a very good point about the medics, one which I hadn’t considered before but makes absolute sense given the lack of training for the crews (which I understand given the time to get the men to their BG’s.)

  • @celtic2405
    @celtic2405 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the report. I would also like to know where you got the crusher from. Thank you.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you. The crusher is from Aviation Military Headwear

  • @PaulMSmith-u5l
    @PaulMSmith-u5l 10 місяців тому +1

    To show pilots and copilots cruising at altitude wearing crush caps and A-2 jackets is not only inaccurate, it's laughable. My father was a B-24 pilot in the 15th, 30 missons plus Lone Wolf sorties. The cabins weren't pressurized, the temps down to fifty below. Many crew members got frostbite, lost toes and fingers to the icy conditions. They covered any speck of flesh they could from the elements. Pilots, least on my dad's plane, wore thick parkas over all the other layered cold weather gear. Not very stylish or cinematic, but vital to stay alive.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 місяців тому +1

      From all the trailers I've seen 99% of the shots show them wearing B6 helmets and B3 jackets, A3 trousers etc. There are some scenes that show them coming into Iceland for example with the pilots wearing crusher caps and B3's but the rest of the crews in the colder parts of the aircraft are fully kitted out

    • @pete1342
      @pete1342 9 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely correct. At 28,000 ft, it's minus 40F or colder on a warm summer day, and nobody wore crusher caps at that altitude unless they wanted their frozen ears to fall off. That's for the movies. A B6 with headphones and a flak helmet was more like it.

    • @PaulMSmith-u5l
      @PaulMSmith-u5l 9 місяців тому

      Yep. My father was 6'4" and the flak helmet, when he pressed back against his seat to hunker down over the bomb run, would creep down over his forehead and block his sight. So he took it off during those harrowing seconds and prayed, scared shitless. Despite the tension his copilot would crack up.@@pete1342